Jabari Greer didn't suck this year, he was playing HURT!

Jan. 27, 2011 2:44 p.m. - CB Jabari Greer played through a shoulder injury throughout the last half of the season so much to where Greer could barely lift his arm above his head, defensive coordinator Gregg Williams said. It's why Greer struggled at times late in 2010.

Rotoworld.com: The shoulder injury and a late-season knee injury help to explain why Greer's play fell off at times from mid-October through the end of the season. Turning 29 in two weeks, Greer should be back to full strength for the 2011 season.

Ok, he did kinda suck but it wasn't because he's old like Lito Sheppard, just for the record.

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2010 is a sign

18 game seasons cannot be done. There’s enough injuries as it is.

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by Jon Banks on Jan 27, 2011 4:19 PM CST reply actions

And that’s when the owner’s locked the doors, officer.

"Aristotle was not Belgian. The central message of Buddhism is not 'every man for himself.' And the London Underground is not a political movement. Those are all mistakes, Otto. I looked 'em up."

by jeff.l.b on Jan 27, 2011 4:30 PM CST up reply actions

Amen. It also doesn’t say much for spending a 1st round pick on a CB you’re hesitant to start.

"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Jan 27, 2011 4:31 PM CST up reply actions

It was P-Rob's first year!!!!!!

Look what the D line said about Sedrick Ellis. NFL secondaries have to be a shock to a rookie. Jenkins didn’t always look so great his rookie year either.

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by stujo4 on Jan 27, 2011 4:44 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs

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Saints should trade down for more picks so there are no first rounders who risk disappointing.

"GE has more foreign employees than American. General Motors now sells and makes more cars in China than at home. " R. Reich

by stujo4 on Jan 27, 2011 4:45 PM CST up reply actions

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I have no defense for Robert Meachem. I like him, but I can’t see how that guy graded out as first round.

"GE has more foreign employees than American. General Motors now sells and makes more cars in China than at home. " R. Reich

by stujo4 on Jan 27, 2011 4:46 PM CST up reply actions

I can’t either… yet… But then again, he was also a “flat out bust” only 16 or 17 months ago, so it’s at least theoretically possible that his degree of sucking was also heavily related to a combination of A) injury and B) welcome to the majors, kid.

by FriarBob on Jan 27, 2011 4:48 PM CST up reply actions

Wow, I’m actually agreeing with Stujo about multiple things in the same day. This must be some sort of a record.

by FriarBob on Jan 27, 2011 4:45 PM CST up reply actions

And still I get no rec.

"GE has more foreign employees than American. General Motors now sells and makes more cars in China than at home. " R. Reich

by stujo4 on Jan 27, 2011 4:47 PM CST up reply actions

Oops. I guess I did forget that little detail.

by FriarBob on Jan 27, 2011 4:49 PM CST up reply actions

I’m talking about starting upon Greer’s injury, not from the get-go. It being Robinson’s rookie year has nothing to do with that. Even if it did, Leon Hall and Darrelle Revis both started as rookies out of the gate. Are you suggesting that difference between an injured Jabari Greer and a healthy Patrick Robinson is greater than the difference between a healthy Deltha O’Neal and a healthy Leon Hall? Or the difference between a healthy Hank Poteat and a heathy Darrelle Revis? Sure, Greer is better than O’Neal/Poteat WHEN HEALTHY, but that wasn’t the case here. a.) how do you know what you have, if you’re not willing to play him? b.) if you DO know what you have and you’re STILL not willing to play him, then my point stands. Don’t use the rookie excuse as a crutch. It’s already been rendered moot before, even WITHOUT an injury to (what would have been) the incumbent starter factored in.

"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Jan 27, 2011 10:02 PM CST up reply actions

Starting a rookie over crap he’s expected to completely replace is a totally different scenario from taking a player who primarily only showed his potential in college over a proven veteran who was coming off a season where he was, quite frankly, bloody awesome.

by FriarBob on Jan 27, 2011 11:28 PM CST up reply actions

It being Robinson’s rookie year has nothing to do with that.

It has everything to do with it. You expect P-Rob to realize his career potential in his rookie year?

Because something is happening here, but you don’t know what it is

by stujo4 on Jan 28, 2011 9:28 AM CST up reply actions

No, I just expect a first round pick to be good enough to start when the guy ahead of him is injured.

"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Jan 28, 2011 9:40 AM CST up reply actions

Like my gastroenterologist told me, “You have unrealistic expectations.”

Because something is happening here, but you don’t know what it is

by stujo4 on Jan 28, 2011 9:54 AM CST up reply actions

Not so unrealistic. What’s the average number of games started as a 1st round rookie CB in the NFL? I would have to think it’s higher than Robinson’s 4.

"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Jan 28, 2011 12:28 PM CST up reply actions

5 star rated Scout.com CB's of the 2010 draft- games started in 2010

Joe Haden 7
Devin McCourty 16
Kyle Wilson 6
Patrick Robinson 4
Kareem Jackson 16
Dominique Franks 0
Chris Cook 5 (injured)
Brandon Ghee 0 (injured)

Point taken. At least we didn’t draft Dominique Franks, he’s even worse.

Because something is happening here, but you don’t know what it is

by stujo4 on Jan 28, 2011 3:33 PM CST up reply actions

Out of curiosity…are you still liking that Hughes kid?

"Aristotle was not Belgian. The central message of Buddhism is not 'every man for himself.' And the London Underground is not a political movement. Those are all mistakes, Otto. I looked 'em up."

by jeff.l.b on Jan 28, 2011 4:00 PM CST up reply actions

I will say that I’m likin’ him a lot better than that Sergio Kindle kid. HOOK ’em!!

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by stujo4 on Jan 28, 2011 8:07 PM CST up reply actions

Feel sorry for that guy. Fell down some stairs, now may never play ball again.

"Aristotle was not Belgian. The central message of Buddhism is not 'every man for himself.' And the London Underground is not a political movement. Those are all mistakes, Otto. I looked 'em up."

by jeff.l.b on Jan 31, 2011 12:06 PM CST up reply actions

And he wasn’t even carrying a precariously balanced stack of coconut cream pies.

Sorry, I just had to evict that longstanding Sesame Street reference from my frontal lobe.

"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Jan 31, 2011 1:32 PM CST up reply actions

If his “career potential” is merely filling in for injured starters, then we botched the pick even more than I imagined.

"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Jan 28, 2011 9:41 AM CST up reply actions

I’m not suggesting that they’re the same scenario.

Are you suggesting that difference between an injured Jabari Greer and a healthy Patrick Robinson is greater than the difference between a healthy Deltha O’Neal and a healthy Leon Hall? Or the difference between a healthy Hank Poteat and a heathy Darrelle Revis?

"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Jan 28, 2011 12:08 AM CST reply actions