New Orleans Saints Offensive Players Grades @ Panthers
Look no further than the 90-yard drive on the Saints final possession of the game when wondering how they fared.
Once again, with the game hanging in the balance, the offense performed best in the clutch. I believe we'll all look back at that monumental drive with appreciation as it may be crucial to this season down the road. The offense had their fair share of red zone struggles (again) and second half sputtering, but when it was most important they went 90 yards in the 4th quarter and put the ball in the end zone. The result was a 30-27 win. What more can you ask for?
Below are the grades.
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Drew Brees: B+ (3.60) You can take the description above of how the offense performed and basically apply it to Drew Brees. The offense goes as he goes. Brees was good early, spotty in the red zone, hit a lull in the second half, and came up huge at the end. Still, he missed a number of throws he usually makes. He had a streaking Lance Moore wide open at one point headed for the end zone for a sure 6 and he overthrew him. You don't see him miss that throw very often. He finished 32 of 45 for 359 yards, 2 touchdowns and 1 interception. The interception was tipped by Graham, but a high throw to begin with, so still on Brees. In the end that 90 yard drive was a work of art and Brees was the artist.Darren Sproles: B+ (3.67) Funny that this was probably his "worst game" as a Saint so far. And he still did pretty good. He got a lot more action running the ball, with 11 carries for 51 yards. I feel like Sproles runs are always awesomely amazing or poor. He's not getting 3-4 yards consistently like Ingram. It's either a big run or he's hit in the backfield. I feel like we saw his limitations a bit more in this game. He really isn't that good at breaking a tackle. That said, he's quick, slippery and decisive in his running. He also had 5 receptions for 40 yards. I wasn't a huge fan of him making fair catches inside the 10. I also thought giving him the ball on two 3rd and 1's was pure insanity. He actually converted one, but what are you thinking coach Payton?
Pierre Thomas: B (3.07) When is this guy going to get more touches? 7 carries and 3 catches just isn't enough. He had 18 yards rushing and 24 yards receiving. I know the Saints have many capable backs and they don't want to overwork his ankle, but his performance has been such that he should start getting more reps. He did a good job catching the football and he ran hard. His grade got a big boost for scoring the game winning touchdown with 50 seconds left.
Mark Ingram: B- (2.53) Once again, Ingram did a terrific job running the ball hard in short yardage situations. I remember Mike Bell going good in this role in 2009, and frankly, Ingram is way better. He's just great at pumping his legs forward and always getting that extra yard. He had 9 carries for 32 hard yards and a big touchdown. He also contributed 2 receptions for 17 yards in the passing game. His unsportsmanlike penalty after the touchdown was beyond stupid, though. Act like you've been there before Mark.
Jed Collins: B+ (2.87) This guy is really coming into his own. His lead blocking on runs was very solid. My big bone to pick with Sean Payton is how little he ran the ball against the 31 ranked run defense in the league. Seriously, 45 passes and 28 runs? Despite being up 2 scores at times in the game? That is just not smart. I thought the play calling was poor in this game. Collins was stonewalled at the of scrimmage on his one carry near the goal line. He came back and scored a touchdown on a flare pass, though.
Korey Hall: B (3.00) The Saints used quite a bit of 2 fullback blocking sets, as well as putting Hall out at tight end with David Thomas missing. I thought his blocking was good and he notched a tackle on special teams as well. He'd been doing a terrific job with that unit.
Marques Colston: B+ (2.22) Colston had a solid performance and he's clearly on the mend from his collarbone problem. He had 5 receptions for 69 yards and he took some big shots and seemed to bounce back from them. He had great hands and made his classic Colston type plays. He was a big reliable target and showed good hands.
Lance Moore: B- (2.84) He drew a big pass interference penalty, but beyond that he didn't contribute that much to the passing game. He had 3 catches for 30 yards and was kept in check. The Panthers did a good job of covering him
Robert Meachem: B- (2.73) He had good hands and made a few good plays. He seemed a little less soft and shy about contact that usual which was nice. He had 4 receptions for 38 yards. The lone pass he didn't catch was a high throw with good coverage that only an exceptional receiver comes up with.
Devery Henderson: C- (2.87) He made a nifty little play for a first down running after the catch. That was it, one catch for 11 yards. He's starting to slow down after his monstrous start. He didn't look 100% healthy. Made no major mistakes though.
Jimmy Graham: A- (3.33) If you look at the highlights, all the amazing catches he made (including that one handed juggler - just sick!) you would think he deserves an A+. He had 8 catches for 129 yards and he played amazing. No doubt about it. He had one catch early on that 90 yard game winning drive, where it was a short 3rd down conversion but he was absolutely drilled on the play. Hanging onto the football there was huge. He did have some mistakes though. While Brees' pass was high, he helped the Panthers on that INT by tipping it to the defender. His blocking wasn't great, and he missed his assignment on a blitz pickup of Captain Munnerlyn that led to a sack. He also ran a horrendous route on a fade play to the end zone. What's amazing is this guy makes up for his lack of experience and raw talent with just how freakishly good of an athlete he is. It's amazing how prolific of a receiver he is and he's only going to get better. He's going to the Pro Bowl this year, book it.
John Gilmore: C+ (2.00) He came in as a blocking tight end and did a reasonable job. He was targeted once and the ball fell harmlessly incomplete. He's fine as a body off the edge that can block, but he's no threat whatsoever in the passing game.
Jermon Bushrod: C (2.53) I don't say this often but his run blocking was infinitely better than his pass blocking. He was fortunate that Brees feels pressure and gets rid of the ball so quickly, because had he been blocking for another quarterback he could have yielded a number of sacks. The amount of pressure coming off his edge was alarming. On running plays, though, he get terrific push, especially in short yardage plains and he was very physical at the point of attack. An up and down game for Bushrod.
Carl Nicks: B+ (2.80) His play is starting to improve but he hasn't hit his peak performance just yet. He was very physical on running plays, and whenever the Saints needed a yard they ran behind him. His pass blocking was solid as well, though I wish he had given more help to Bushrod.
Brian de la Puente: C- (2.00) Did anyone else notice the snaps not coming out clean at all? He needs to get that corrected ASAP because 4 to 5 snaps were bottled in the snap transition by Brees and I know that's not Brees' fault because I never saw that once with Jonathan Goodwin. If de la Puente can't get the ball snapped properly then the Saints need to try Matt Tennant. The Saints are lucky none of those resulted in fumbles. Otherwise, his blocking was largely fine, but he didn't get great push.
Jahri Evans: B (3.27) He had a false start penalty and another poor blitz pickup, but other than that his blocking was once again impeccable. While we can't ignore the mistakes he made, Evans' comfort in the offense and experience is really impressive. He's always at the right place at the right time and he holds his ground extremely well. He's been very good so far this year.
Charles Brown: C+ (2.67) The poor play he has at times is never really a function of ability, I've noticed. It's more lapses in concentration and focus. He just wasn't mindful on a handful of blocking assignments and he had a false start penalty once. I feel like experience will partially fix that, but I do wonder if he's one of those guys that has drifting focus. That's a little worrisome because I wonder if he's paying attention all the time, but it's also promising because clearly he's got the size, speed and strength to succeed as a right tackle. I've been impressed with him blocking, power and technique when he gets a hat on a player.
My Offensive Player of the Game: Jimmy Graham
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although I like the idea of giving PT more touches, also I think giving Sproles has some wisdon in it
it give future opponents film that says if it’s 3rd down (or even 4th) , Sproles may run the ball up the middle- so it keeps defenses honest, makes them consider another aspect of our strategy – not selling out to the pass, and it helps the play action pass.
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If we ran the ball more, this wouldn't be a problem
And Brees would be able to exploit the defense even more when they try to adjust and stop the run. And maybe it would help the O-line, too…they’d probably have some more confidence. We are facing some pretty bad run defenses heading into the bye week and we should take advantage of them with our good depth at RB.
by BlackandGold4ever on Oct 11, 2011 6:54 AM CDT up reply actions
2 more weeks til Ivory
Ingram Sproles Thomas Ivory
You’ll need to get up pretty early to figure out what to do against that.
Just imagine all the sets (with different personnel at RB) that they could run and pass from…
2 RB, 1 TE, 2 WR
2 FB, 1 RB, 2 TE
1 FB, 1 RB, 1 TE, 2 WR
2 FB, 1 RB, 1 TE, 1 WR
and much, much more…with interchangeable pieces at RB
by BlackandGold4ever on Oct 11, 2011 7:31 AM CDT up reply actions
Jed Collins for MVP
2 Tds last 2 weeks. I’m picking him up on my fantasy team
by touchdown my pants on Oct 11, 2011 8:07 AM CDT reply actions
Heck with MVP
Jed Collins for President. Beast mode.
by touchdown my pants on Oct 11, 2011 8:23 AM CDT up reply actions
He will have a TD in every game from here on out
and finish with 13 TDS and then will be on cover of madden next year
by touchdown my pants on Oct 11, 2011 8:25 AM CDT reply actions
Graham is good and may be great some day...
But can he PLEASE stop giving the ball to the defense. You’re screwing up Drew’s stats lil Jimmy.
"In fact, Sterger claims that, in one of the photos Favre allegedly sent her, he's masturbating — while wearing a pair of Crocs"
About that
That pick looked almost like a setup to me… ball tipped and the defense guy just ‘happens’ to be out in the middle of nowhere ready to intercept it. Just sayin’.
Wha choo talkin bout?
Conspiracy theories?
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Henderson.
I think Henderson didn’t practice a lot last week, believe it was a problem with his calf. Not his cow, but you know what I mean.
And I wouldn’t think that focusing on Colston and Graham now as Drew has means Henderson’s skill suddenly dropped off.
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by CrazyforColston on Oct 11, 2011 9:53 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
not his cow?
CfC…you just made me laugh!!
Thanks
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by Hans Petersen on Oct 11, 2011 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Stop blamimg Graham for INT
The ball was overthrown! As high as he jumped for it, the ball was still beyond his reach. Lance Moore could’ve had a TD but it TOO was overthrown! Brees is human and makes mistakes but if the ball is delivered correctly, the catch is made. We Saints’ Fans want to annoint Brees leader of the free world but remember last year when Brees had 22 INTs? I love the TEAM not one player because players go/leave but the TEAM will always be here. In saying that, give the praises where they’re deserved and ALSO the criticism. Why is it NO ONE is talking about the passes Graham held onto after immediately getting clobbered by the defender?
When a guy who’s 6’5" leaps up and can still only touch the ball with his fingertips, it’s safe to say the pass was thrown too high. No question that interception was on Brees.
Then knock the ball away.
Don’t leave it in play when you are the only available receiver with a defender directly behind you.
"In fact, Sterger claims that, in one of the photos Favre allegedly sent her, he's masturbating — while wearing a pair of Crocs"
Yes.
He batted the ball with his hands. I don’t possess the athletic skills of a corner, but I can catch a ball hanging in the air easily enough.
Face it: Graham is athletic and will learn, but he’s prone to making boneheaded rookie mistakes.
"In fact, Sterger claims that, in one of the photos Favre allegedly sent her, he's masturbating — while wearing a pair of Crocs"
Agreed 100%.
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Andrew talks specifically about the pass Graham held onto during the last drive. Great job as always, Andrew—you’re keeping me away from the optometrist.
Brees senses pressure
As stated above, Brees saves the Saints at least 2 to 3 sacks a game by sensing pressure and moving in the pocket while keeping his eyes focused on his targets. He is one of the best I have ever seen in his ability to make the most out of a deteriorating situation. Yes, the Saints are a team, not one player, but they are a winning team because of what Brees brings to the table. Weekly. He is not perfect, but he is clearly one of the best 4 QBs in the league (Brady, Manning Rogers, Brees), and the difference between them and most of the rest of the QBs is enormous.
When I was at the game in Carolina on Sunday, I had a weird de javu experience. I watched the Panthers fans in the last few minutes have the same reaction I had 20 years ago when Montana was the QB of the 49ers. The Saints would have the lead in the 4th quarter, and Montana would march the ball down the field and win the game. It was a feeling of helplessness; he was in total control. Same for Brees late last Sunday.
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by BenDerDonDat on Oct 11, 2011 12:17 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Amen on the Montana memory!
I loved Smokin Joe, but damn he left me with some shell shocked memories!
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by Saint for life on Oct 11, 2011 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions
FIFY
I loved Smokin Joe, but damn he left me with some shell shocked memories!
I loved it when Smokin Joe finally retired.
INGRAMANIA equals LOMBARDI 2012
by cajuncommando58 on Oct 11, 2011 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Not too worried about de la Puente or Brown
The guy came in as a guard and beat Tenant out and honestly has played that bad. Not saying I’m not in a hurry for Kreutz to come back, but he’s doing good enough to give Kreutz time to be back up to 100% before coming back. I think given enough play time, Brown will be out my main man Strief for the RT spot and hopefully can develop into a better LT than Bushrod and let him go to RT and let Strief go back to being the beast off the bench!!!
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by Saint for life on Oct 11, 2011 12:24 PM CDT reply actions
Some observations
He had a streaking Lance Moore wide open at one point headed for the end zone for a sure 6 and he overthrew him.
Actually if you review the film he under threw Lance and was off target.
I feel like Sproles runs are always awesomely amazing or poor. He’s not getting 3-4 yards consistently like Ingram. It’s either a big run or he’s hit in the backfield. I feel like we saw his limitations a bit more in this game
Rather that seeing his limitations, which due to his size he obviously has, I think we are seeing, teams starting to game plan/adjust for him.Sean and Drew have been going to him and Jimmy a lot and defenses are going to respond increasingly to this.
On Ingram
His unsportsmanlike penalty after the touchdown was beyond stupid, though. Act like you’ve been there before Mark.
I didn’t see what you saw there nor the Ref’s. Thought that flag was a little nit-picky. And as for as acting like he’s been there, remember he is a rookie.
And lastly on Graham.
While Brees’ pass was high, he helped the Panthers on that INT by tipping it to the defender.
Jimmy was just trying to make a play for a poorly thrown ball. The ball would probably have gone right to the defender anyway and I’m not going to fault Jimmy for trying to bring it in.
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by cajuncommando58 on Oct 11, 2011 12:39 PM CDT reply actions

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