New Orleans Saints Offensive Player Grades @ Buccaneers
Well, I think it's fair to say that was the worst offensive performance of the season to this point. The Saints combined their lowest point total (20) with their highest turnover total (4) in one game this season. That's not typically going to yield much success against any opponent.
The lack of success can be summarized in many ways: sloppy play, risky passes, poor blocking, no success running the ball, ugh, I think it's time to stop. I don't know how much of this I can stomach but for better or for worse, here are the grades.
Drew Brees: C (3.33) To be honest, for me it was less about the numbers and actual interceptions he threw. I don't really fault him on any of those three. The first is a ball Meachem needs to catch, the second was a terrific play by the defender and that's a throw Drew makes and completes all the time, and the third was a desperation pass on a 4th down play. I don't have a huge issue with any of those. What I did have issue with is many of Brees' near interceptions. He threw a number of passes in places that made little sense, and took uncharacteristic risks I'm not used to seeing. There were 3 to 4 passes that should have been interceptions that Brees was fortunate didn't end up that way. So while his three picks were forgivable, it's the passes that should have been picks that weren't. Once again Brees gave his chance a team to win at the end, but this time he failed. It happens and he's human. That said, he needs to get guys not named Sproles or Graham more involved and he needs to correct the woeful red zone performance that has plagued this unit throughout the first six games. He finished 29 of 45 for 383 yards, 1 touchdown and 3 interceptions. He actually ran more than usual with 3 carries for 21 yards.
Mark Ingram: C+ (2.50) His 12 yard touchdown run was sick. Absolutely sick. And what a great inside cut move to make a would be tackler in traffic miss. Everything in between was pedestrian as usual. I'm starting to get over Ingram a little bit. He's a hard runner, he's going to be a good player (I think) and I like what I've seen from him at times... nothing he's done yet has been mind blowing at all, though. He's been solidly serviceable throughout, and never amazing. I'd rather be watching Chris Ivory until that changes. He had 9 carries for just 22 yards and a catch for 6 yards.
Pierre Thomas: D (2.72) To this point he's been without fault but that all changed in a hurry. He coughed up a bad fumble early in the ballgame that took the wind out of the Saints' sails and donated a 3-0 lead to the Bucs. He had zero impact on the game and was close to completely useless. He had 7 carries for just 11 yards and a reception for 5 yards. That was one of the worst performances of his career.
Darren Sproles: C (3.39) He caught a lot of passes but Tampa was ready for it and they knew how to keep him in front of them. His inability to break tackles is predictable but frustrating. He finished with 8 receptions for just 46 yards. His lone carry was a big 16 yard toss play, and of course he never saw another carry. Nice play calling there. He was very poor on returns with a 23 yard average off three kickoff returns, including getting short of the 20 twice, and a Reggie Bush moment on a punt return where he ran backwards and killed any chance at good field position with an 11 yard loss on a return. Miserable.
Jed Collins: B- (2.83) His lead block on the Mark Ingram touchdown run was AMAZING. If you re-watch any part of that game watch that one play and turn it off. It was a devastating block and you just knew the play was going for a touchdown once he opened up that gap. The lack of success in the running game wasn't his fault and I thought he played hard. He also showed good hands on a 3 yard reception.
Jimmy Graham: A- (3.39) Another 100+ yard performance for Graham as this time he finished with 7 catches for 124 yards. He's a superstar, no doubt about it, but he's got to start delivering more in short yardage situations near the red zone. His blocking was mediocre and he also dropped a critical pass. You can't argue with his playmaking ability in the vertical passing game though. The guy is a baller. Ronde Barber could not stop his combination of size and athleticism. He was no match. Overall Graham was outstanding again showing great hands, speed and power. I love how he absorbs hits too.
John Gilmore: D (1.75) The most memorable play for me with Gilmore was a handoff to Ingram where he got embarrassingly blown up in the backfield by Michael Bennett which ultimately led to a 5 yard loss on a running play. I'm sorry but this guy clearly wasn't brought in to receive passes, so if he can't even block can he be released immediately? I know the Saints have been working a lot of tight ends out lately. How they all seem more terrible than Gilmore is beyond me.
Marques Colston: A (2.67) He finished with 7 catches for 118 yards and a touchdown. He made tough catches in traffic, took hits, and did his thing out there. It's nice to see Colston bounce back and have a really strong game. No complaints about his effort.
Lance Moore: B- (2.80) He only had two catches but came up with a huge 40 yarder down the sideline to give the Saints new life. He finished with just 2 catches for 46 yards. That's too bad because in a Tampa two scheme where Brees saw so much zone, I figured a guy like Moore who runs good routes and has great ability to find the soft spot in coverage would get more plays.
Robert Meachem: D+ (2.50) Meachem had just one catch for 23 yards but it was a big one to covert a 3rd and 12 late in the game. That catch would give the Saints a chance to march down the field and try to win the game. His only other target was a ball that went right through his hands and into the hands of a Tampa defender. That was a very costly turnover.
Devery Henderson: C- (2.67) His lone catch was a terrific play where he showed great hands and toughness on a slant route and almost broke free. That was it though, just one catch for 12 yards. He's back to being an afterthought in the offense after getting off to a fast start this season. His calf still seems to be bothering him.
Jermon Bushrod: B (2.61) He threw a nice block on one of the few successful Saints' runs of the day, a 16 yard sleep to the left side. Bushrod battled a lot of pressure from the left side, especially once it was clear the Saints were throwing every play (45 to 20 pass to run ratio isn't going to cut it Sean). Still, he held his own and only got Brees hit once. I've been ok with Bushrod's play so far this season. One of the few bright spots.
Carl Nicks: C- (2.61) Very disappointing showing by Nicks. He was bullied in the trenches and the Saints continually tried to go behind him on the interior. He just couldn't get it going and get the push he normally gets. Take away Brees' scrambles and Sproles' one run and the Saints had 33 yards on 16 carries. Just over 2 yards per carry. Nicks was a big part of that. His pass blocking was fine.
Olin Kreutz: D (1.67) At what point do the Saints give up on this guy as a washed up has been? He was flagged for a back breaking hold call that called back a 17 yard pass to Sproles. Beyond that, he gets no push whatsoever on the interior and he's often being pushed backwards. The poor interior run was as much due to his leaky blocking as anything. Another very poor showing and I just don't know how many more he can afford before the Saints turn to Brian de la Puente full time.
Jahri Evans: B+ (3.28) Once again he was the stabilizing force along the line. Fantastic in pass blocking throughout the game, and somewhat solid in run blocking. The touchdown run by Ingram was behind him, as was a 3rd and short play. Those were two of the very few successful run plays the Saints had on the day. For as bad as the line has been as a unit, I really feel Evans' has been the one shining star consistently. Really nice to see him playing at that level once again.
Charles Brown: D (2.33) I'm beginning to see why the Saints never bought into him being "ready" as a left tackle or even a starting right tackle. I think it has less to do with ability and more to do with poise. My biggest wonder at this point is if he has it all upstairs. He was abused on running plays so that wasn't encouraging, but he had two penalties again in this one, another false start and an illegal formation penalty because he wasn't up on the line. Brown is quickly becoming the king of false starts. He's always good for at least one a game. His pass blocking was probably the least strong of the unit, although at times it looked like he was strong and quick laterally. Overall he's just not up to snuff right now.
My Offensive Player of the Game: Marques Colston
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I am afraid I have to demote Graham to a B+. Not that it was all his fault late hit out of bounds no flag damned zebras check my signature but he effectively lobotomized the Saints offense, even if it was just for a few plays. He also I am sure made Kat frown, which is not ever to be discounted.
this should probably have a tag being from the satire department, Graham is showing to be a Beast and if we get 5 or 6 years of this out of him, we should count ourselves incredibly lucky
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by theprogrammerman on Oct 18, 2011 7:46 AM CDT reply actions
Bushrod a B?
I’m just asking. I haven’t reviewed the film, but there did seem to be a number of passing plays where both OTs were getting whipped.
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How about grading the playcalling..
They have early success running a toss sweep to Sproles and then rarely run anywhere but between the guards thereafter (against the young talented TB tackles).
Also, if you are going to talk about replacing Kreutz, what about Meacham and Henderson? They are doing precious little to contribute and can’t get off the line of scrimmage when closely guarded by physical corners. It was interesting to me that Tampa Bay receivers seemed wide open on many occasions, but our wide receivers looked like they were covered up all day.
"I have had a perfectly wonderful evening, but this wasn't it." Groucho Marx
The best defense against Brees is a cover-2 with a good front 4, and that’s what Tampa has. Taking the playcaller away put too much pressure on guys who are used to putting their 2 cents in at meetings instead of deciding. You can see that the only time Brees will put a RB behind him in no-huddle is for pointless play-action, so they needed their usual playcaller to digest the information and play toward Tampa’s weaknesses. Without that, they became immensely predictable, and played right into Tampa’s strengths.
I’m all for abandoning Meachem at this point. He’s done little to help this team that some other high-speed, low-instinct WR couldn’t accomplish. Henderson came out great, puts in great effort this year, can play anywhere you need, and he’s a solid outside run-blocker. He’s just getting overlooked a lot, because he’s not the best anything on the team. They have a faster wide out, a crisper slot receiver, and bigger possession receivers. But Henderson has been an underused Swiss army knife the past two weeks. When Colston was out, he was great. When Colston is in, he’s invisible. I think that has more to do with where Brees is looking than how well Henderson is playing.
And Kreutz could walk today, for all I care. He’s terrible at the short list of skills required of his position. And until he started playing for the Saints, I didn’t realize how tiny that guy is. Also, Brown looked as bad as advertised, but id bet money his false start penalty was on Kreutz. Everyone on the Saints side jumped. The ball just wasnt snapped. A fat guy could do his job better than he does, just by virtue of being fat. Any fat guy.
"The Colts were punching at it and grabbing for it, trying to get it out. But I didn't care if they broke all my fingers. There was absolutely no way in the world I was going to let go of that ball. That was our ball.''-Chris Reis
by FuSoYa on Oct 18, 2011 11:39 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Nicely put
I may have been a little rough on Henderson…
Like you, I am not willing to give up yet on Brown…He plays a tough position and would rather evaluate his performance after 6 weeks, not 2 1/2. Kreutz has been a mega-disappointment.
"I have had a perfectly wonderful evening, but this wasn't it." Groucho Marx
by BenDerDonDat on Oct 18, 2011 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions
On that final offensive play inside the 5
Pierre Thomas fell down got back up, and was open, he clearly would have made the first down and may have even scored. I don’t fault Brees for missing a wide open Meachem on the other side of the end zone, but Pierre was clearly in his line of sight. Better option than lobbing it into zone coverage in the end zone.
check the replay and my post below- it was impossible to get the ball to PT
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Bushrod way too high, Ingram a bit low
That’s a pretty harsh grade for Ingram when you yourself admit that the run blocking led to multiple negative plays. There’s not much he can do if he’s getting hit 5 yards behind the LoS. When he did have decent blocking, Ingram generally made the most of it. My only complaint is he didn’t seem to have quite the same burst as in previous games. B
Bushrod was a freaking turnstile on passing plays. I lost count of how many times the pocket collapsed on both edges. His run blocking was mediocre on the few occasions they did run to his side, as he never really managed to set the edge. D+
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I guess this one answers the question
Can any other player win the poll when Drew is on it. And I believe Drew did all he could with the lack of help he had.
INGRAMANIA equals LOMBARDI 2012
by cajuncommando58 on Oct 18, 2011 3:13 PM CDT reply actions
We be Sprolling!
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in regards to PT being open, you need to look at the replay
Brees was running for his life to the right and PT was still down. He only got up when Brees was in a desperation mode, running right with a linebacker in his face trying to block the pass and his vision ; his only targets were Graham and Gilmore who were covered and he tried to force it since it was 4th down and it was do or die. Ironoically there wasa a small sliver of an opening to get the ball to Gilmore but it was a near impossible pass. Meachem went to an area that, under the circumstances, was an impossible throw for anyone who has ever played in the NFL.
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I told you guys Kreutz would mess the team up.
It only takes one to mess an entire team up. But what’s bad is that there are two messing this team up. Kreutz and the other one plays on defense. You all know who he is. You have one bad apple on offense and one on defense. Those two are surely putting this whole team in jeapardy.

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