Saints 20 @ Buccaneers 26: A Review of HansDat's Hot Reads
Ugh. I still don't like the taste of that disgusting loss to Tampa Bay in my mouth. The only thing that will wash it out is the taste of victory (hmmmm, and I think that tastes like horse).
But before we can get to Sunday Night is Football Night, we have to review the Hot Reads, and that's what awaits you after the jump.
Primary Option: Protect Brees
What I'd like to see: The same thing I always want to see, a sack- and pressure-free game by the Saints o-line.
Well, he wasn't sacked and was only hit once, but the protection itself (as well as the run blocking) was absolutely pathetic. The Buccaneers were able to generate quite a bit of pressure and Drew Brees looked uncomfortable all day long. And if we aren't going to have effective play-calling and any sort of running game, this category now takes on utmost importance going forward, as I fear we're headed for another 2008-type of heartburn season.
Checkdown # 1: Penalties, Penalties, Penalties
What I'd like to see: The Saints have less penalties overall and less impactful penalties than Tampa Bay, providing a distinct advantage in the win.
When you look at the big picture, it was about even on number of penalties and yards with the Saints having a slight advantage in having less penalty yards, but a closer look reveals a bit more...
The Saints committed 7 penalties that were accepted by Tampa Bay for a total of 53 yards, while Tampa Bay was flagged 7 times for 64 yards in accepted penalties.
By my count, four of the New Orleans infractions were significant, and Olin Kreutz was responsible for two of them: first, a holding call negated a 17-yard gain on the Saints final drive of the first half, costing them yards and precious time on a drive that ended in a FG, and then in the second half, when the Saints had gotten a first down at the Tampa Bay 10, Kreutz false-started, putting them back to the 15, and the drive stalled at the six-yard line before John Kasay kicked his second and final FG of the game.
Charles Brown lined up incorrectly on first down in the second half, negating a 4-yard gain (turning a 2nd and 6 into a 1st and 15), and the Saints punted three plays later. The final penalty of consequence was the questionable unnecessary roughness penalty committed by Malcolm Jenkins. It gave an easy 15 yards to the Buccaneers on a drive that ended in a FG.
And, for the Bucs....crap. I'll just admit that I have no desire to study this anymore. Sorry. Here's what I can say. The Bucs didn't commit enough penalties to lose the game, that's for sure. And I'll also say this: I hate the Saints losing.
Checkdown # 2: Take It Away
What I'd like to see: The Saints play a giveaway-free game while taking the ball away three times from Tampa Bay, and subsequently getting a minimum of 17 points off those takeaways. While helping in the victory, it will also get them to even-steven for the season.
Hoo-boy, was I quite disappointed by what I saw on Sunday in relation to what I said I'd like to see. Not only did the Saints not take the ball away from Tampa Bay at all, but they coughed it up four times. We all know how devastating that was. Enough said. Ouch. Have I mentioned that I hate losing?
Safety Valve: Seeing Red
What I'd like to see: A 100% red zone TD percentage for the Saints on at least five trips inside the 20. And then an "oh-fer" for Tampa Bay.
The Saints also stunk up the joint in the Red Zone. Although the Saints tied with Tampa Bay on the number of Red Zone touchdowns scored (1), the Saints got inside their 20-yard line three other times with only one field goal to show for it. Ugh. It certainly couldn't have gotten much uglier on Sunday.
There's nowhere to go but up? (He says hopefully...)
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Chime in below if you'd like. I'll pop back in and see what's up, and start thinking up some good Hot Reads for the Colts game.
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had to go for the burger option.... as always.
Coach Payton sitting alone on the sidelines reminds me of a young me at a school
dance, where even the geeks managed to snag someone for the smoochy tune
at the end (I said snag just in case there was some Austin Powers like confusion)
As for the protection issues…. no problem,we’ve got a couple of chumps up against us
on sunday in Freeney and Mathis.
That could`ve been me,a useless gnome* fishing
for turds in a birthing pool.
Not going to panic but...
If we want to go far in the playoffs I think we better win at least 12 games and get some home games in the Benz. (Lol that was weird). I don’t think we will make a long post season run if we have to play on the road. I think we need the 2 seed and hope the Packers get knocked out. Last thing we need is a January game in Cheese land. Like everyone else I feel good about the next 2 games and our team should be foaming at the mouth when the Bucs visit the Benz in 3 weeks.
Kreutz pisses me off.
Should have been him sitting on that bench instead of Payton. I told you guys he’d mess this team up and will only get worse if he remains in the game. Also another factor in this loss was we ran the ball too much.
by tommy v on Oct 19, 2011 9:21 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
why does everyone have so much venom for Olin Kreutz
he seems to be one of the most respected players in the league.
If Pro is the opposite of Con, what is the opposite of Progress? Congress!
-Men's Restroom - House of Representatives, Washington, DC
He was respected until he started playing for the Saints. Put the Portuguese kid in.
You're telling all those lies about the good things that we can have if we close our eyes
De La Tennant?
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Ha!
WIN NOW
WINGRAMANIA!!!!
by Hans Petersen on Oct 19, 2011 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Respect doesn't translate into ability.
I was one of the first to say give the man a chance to learn and develop into our system. Well he has had plenty of time IMHO, and he just isn’t cutting it. There was a reason Cutler was the most sacked QB last year and it looks like Kreutz was one of the problems. I’m sure he was probably great at one time, but from his play this season it appears that time has passed. De la Puende is young and makes some rookie mistakes, but I see a lot more upside with him and have only seen the downside with Olin so far. I have actually liked Brians play thus far this season.
INGRAMANIA equals LOMBARDI 2012
by cajuncommando58 on Oct 19, 2011 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions
He's spent
and he’s consistently outweighed 30-50 lbs by opposing DT’s. He’ll be fine in a back up role. There’s a reason Da Beers dumped him, and wasn’t just $.
You think you know, and you don't know, and you never, ever, will.-Jim Mora Sr.
I understand ....nothing.-Michael Scott
The Future is Unwritten.-Joe Strummer
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win."-Mahatma Gandhi
besides the one false start that they didn’t replay to confirm whether it was really his fault….
what did he do or not do?
paging Jeff Duncan's Film Study...
4th Quarter
(7:19): The Bucs line again blew up a Saints run. This time nose tackle Brian Price manhandled Kreutz at the point of attack and drove him into the backfield, where he then dropped Thomas for a 2-yard loss.
And from the way people have hollered about his play, this happens often?
WIN NOW
WINGRAMANIA!!!!
by Hans Petersen on Oct 19, 2011 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions
What is most concerning to me...
is how spot-on your hot reads are. Just make sure that you don’t ever include stay injury-free!
by BlackandGold4ever on Oct 19, 2011 9:22 AM CDT reply actions
that's something this feature will NEVER touch
because it’s beyond everyone’s control…
WIN NOW
WINGRAMANIA!!!!
by Hans Petersen on Oct 19, 2011 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions
One could say the play of the O-line might have a little bit of influence there. I honestly hope that Kreutz decides that he can’t play up to the level he needs to and coaches up Tennant and de la Puente from his experience
by BlackandGold4ever on Oct 20, 2011 7:15 AM CDT up reply actions
the o-line and blocking backs have a huge role
in keeping Drew Breeeees!!! Safe and sound. SAFE AND SOUND, do you hear me, O-LINE? Do this and do it well, PLEASE.
WIN NOW
WINGRAMANIA!!!!
by Hans Petersen on Oct 20, 2011 8:07 AM CDT up reply actions
Just for fun, if you were the opposing DC against the Saints, wouldn't you...
1) Play pass first and try to make it a priority (until you got burned) to go all out on QB pressure with minimal regard for the run or play action because Payton is known to pass twice as often as run and pass even more often as far as % when it is NOT an obvious running down?
2) Coach your defensive backs to cover the short pass, to jump routes whenever possible, and not be as concerned about the long pass because of (see #1 and see reason for #1) (see Colston TD reception)
Well if your answer to both of those is yes, which I think it should be, then it is actually remarkable there were no sacks. Teams are playing us as a pass-first team a) because we are, and b) out of necessity because to stop our pasing game which has been our trademark now for 5 years, you HAVE TO. If you sit back and give Brees all day to pass, game over. The theory around the league is " make the Saints beat you with the run. If they beat you with the run, they deserve it. If your game plan is play pass defense first and they beat you either with the pass or the run, then they were going to win anyway." But, to defensively play the run vs. Saints would be really stupid.
Solution, run the ball more, run the ball better. My theory is if we run the ball more, we will run the ball better.
ALL IN ALL, I HAVE NO PANIC IN LIGHT OF HOW HARD IT IS TO WIN 3 GAMES IN A ROW ON THE ROAD regardless of who the competition is (and Tampa is good) especially without the offensive play caller in the 2nd half.
If Pro is the opposite of Con, what is the opposite of Progress? Congress!
-Men's Restroom - House of Representatives, Washington, DC
THIS
ALL IN ALL, I HAVE NO PANIC IN LIGHT OF HOW HARD IT IS TO WIN 3 GAMES IN A ROW ON THE ROAD regardless of who the competition is (and Tampa is good) especially without the offensive play caller in the 2nd half.
I have just taken to pretending that last week didn't happen
Just because we have chiseled abs and stunning features, it doesn't mean that we too can't not die in a freak gasoline fight accident.
by Fat Punk Kicker on Oct 19, 2011 12:24 PM CDT reply actions
Back on the Adderall huh?
INGRAMANIA equals LOMBARDI 2012
by cajuncommando58 on Oct 19, 2011 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Are you trying to sell some?
Just because we have chiseled abs and stunning features, it doesn't mean that we too can't not die in a freak gasoline fight accident.
by Fat Punk Kicker on Oct 20, 2011 1:30 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah me neither
Just because we have chiseled abs and stunning features, it doesn't mean that we too can't not die in a freak gasoline fight accident.
by Fat Punk Kicker on Oct 20, 2011 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm confident we will make the playoffs, but that's all I'm confident of.
We will probably win the division due to the remaining schedules and the fact that both the Falcons and Bucs aren’t without their own issues. If that screws up, we should still at least get a wildcard spot.
The bigger concern is being denied a bye week and having only one game (or possibly even none) in the dome during the playoffs. Unless something drastically changes, the Packers appear to have a virtual lock on home field advantage. The 49er’s playing in a weak division and having a comparatively easy remaining schedule could easily end up with the second best record.
The way it’s looking now, we will probably need to get some help in the playoffs from the Lions in order to avoid having to win at least two road games. But, as we all know, a lot can change between now and then so I’m keeping my fingers crossed.
Aaron could break a collar bone or sumthin
INGRAMANIA equals LOMBARDI 2012
by cajuncommando58 on Oct 19, 2011 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm sending an assassin to Wisconsin as we speak.
I had to sell everything I had to pay the guy but I hope to make up for it by betting against Green Bay in the coming weeks. I asked him to make it as painful as possible. He told me he would try his best but it will be hard since Rodgers has a superhuman tolerance to pain due to having to endure the draft day green room.
When all your wishes are granted....All you dreams will be destroyed.
by AcquiredPanic on Oct 19, 2011 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions
death by asphyxiation is out.. he can hols his breath for over 5 minutes..
talent he developed while attending the QB meetings with favre (known for his continuous passing of gas)
by the 9th plague on Oct 19, 2011 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm still wating
for someone to step up on defense and just play like they give a S*#T! We need a defensive Jimmy Graham to pump up and motivate some motherf*#kers. There a talented bunch they just don’t seem to play with a chip on there shoulder even though they should with all the smack they receive after a game.
step it up D
Offense is ok. I mean, we lost our coach, our play caller, our football mastermind! Although very uncharacteristic of Drew to pull a Tony Romo and not scan the field and find Meachem all alone begging for the throw, we’ll be ok. Drew is known for fixing those kind of problems. But had we made the touchdown, there is no guarantee our defense would have have stopped them from doing the same thing with 3 minutes left. Step it up Defense!! Hey Greg, didn’t Sean make sure you got plenty by giving up a quarter million of his for you? Make them (defense) show you’re still worth it. I know you are. Get on their ass!! Let’s do it again!! “WHO DAT”!!!

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