Saints @ Rams: HansDat's Hot Reads
Today the Saints find themselves in St. Louis, closing out the first half of the 2011 season with their fourth road game in five weeks, hoping to avoid a letdown in the Gateway City following last week's 62-7 pasting of the Colts.
Fun fact: According to wikipedia, the population of St. Louis has been in decline since 1950, and our quarterback is also in decline - how about that? Read for yourself. And if you do, you'll see that St. Louis and New Orleans share a number of connections, from World's Fairs to Mississippi River port status to French heritage to Kevin Held of Hakim Drops the Ball.
Follow me to read what I think the Saints need to do to keep the Algiers/Canal Street Victory Ferry chugging up and down the mighty Mississippi.
**Please enjoy yourself (responsibly) in this pre-pre-game open thread and share your thoughts on the game and my Reads as the clock inches closer to kickoff...**
Primary Option
We all saw what happens when the o-line PROTECTS DREW BREES and gives him time to find his receivers. He put together a masterful performance for the ages, and his day was done before the fourth quarter started. We can't always expect it to be that easy, but if they can do this early and allow for another big lead, we can perhaps see lots of safe handoffs in the later stages of the game, and maybe even another Chase Daniel Band sighting.
Chris Long and James Hall bring pressure off the ends for the Rams, and while they are not as formidable as theDwight Freeney/Robert Mathis combo, they definitely merit attention.
What I'd like to see: Brees protected well once again and hardly touched by the Rams.
Checkdown # 1
With AJ Feeley starting for the injured Sam Bradford, and a receiving corps that has made a living out of dropping passes, the main focus for the Saints defense should be STOPPING THE RUN.
Steven Jackson, although he's been hurt, returned last week against Dallas and is a big, bruising back who has the potential to run roughshod over the poor-tackling Saints, especially if he is easily able to get past the front line and into the second level of the defense. What worries me is if he's effective early and helps the Rams sustain drives and keep the game close. This would increase the possibility of him changing the game with one big run against the sloppy Saints D.
The Rams also have Cadillac Williams, formerly of the Buccaneers, to spell Jackson and/or take over if he goes down. While not a great back, Williams has had a big game or two against the Saints in his career.
What I'd like to see: A neutralized running game that is shut down early while the Saints build a big lead, and then they can get all the garbage yards they want after the game's in the bag.
Checkdown # 2
On the other hand, it may be just as important for the Saints to ESTABLISH THE RUN against the porous Rams run defense (allowing over 180 yards per game so far). Certainly the Rams won't give up over 200 yards rushing to a single running back again, will they? Or will they?
The Saints will be doing this without the Ingramaniac, and I'm sure many of us fans are interested in seeing how this plays out - who will get more of Ingram's carries? Pierre Thomas? Darren Sproles? Or will we perhaps even see the 2011 debut of TUSK?
What I'd like to see: Another effectively-implemented rushing game. Last week, they used the run just enough early on so that they weren't having to achieve everything aerially, and then pounded the ball successfully in the second half while increasing the lead. More of this would be just fine with me.
Safety Valve
On paper, this game looks like it should be a cakewalk. However, there is much to be wary of, so I'm recommending here that the Saints remember to KEEP COOL NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS.
Sometimes these games don't play out like they are supposed to. As a nod to this, in my weekly prediction, I even have the Rams jumping out to a 17-0 lead. (And you know I've been on a tear with my predictions lately, so this is absolutely LEGIT.)
Flukey things happen. A bad bounce here, or a poorly-timed penalty or other mental breakdown there, and the Saints could find themselves behind in this game. If this indeed happens, from top to bottom, the coaches and players need to maintain their composure and just keep playing Saints football. Don't abandon the running game, don't start forcing the ball downfield, just do what you do, and it'll all work out.
What I'd like to see: This factor not come into play at all. But if it does, the Saints need to nip it in the bud, show the Rams who's really in charge, and not let it get to them and force a snowball effect disaster scenario that allows this game to become another Bucs fiasco like in Week 6. I'm still spitting out a bit of stomach bile from that one.
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These kind of games scare me.
Everything points to an easy Saints win, but when have the Saints ever played an inferior team that is struggling and whooped them like a red-headed step-child? (with the exception of last weeks blowout of the Colts). I expect the Saints to play down to the Rams level and keep them in the game for the entire 4 quarters. I hope I’m wrong.
Hmmm...
I probably shouldn’t come on this. ;-)
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by Dave Cariello on Aug 24, 2011 10:31 AM PDT
my guess is that it'll be close early with the Saints pulling away late in the first half
WIN NOW
WINGRAMANIA!!!!
by Hans Petersen on Oct 30, 2011 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions
Looks like I wasn't wrong.
The Saints have a history of doing exactly this.
Hmmm...
I probably shouldn’t come on this. ;-)
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by Dave Cariello on Aug 24, 2011 10:31 AM PDT
by Cajun in CA on Oct 31, 2011 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions
I think they learned lesson the past two games
If you leave an inferior opponent in the game for any reason, bad things happen. If you step on their throat from the outset, they will soon enough capitulate and THEN you can let up.
I fully expect the Saints to win by comfortably more than the 14 point betting line today.
Irony: an atheist Saints fan
by GSO Saints Fan on Oct 30, 2011 8:19 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
works for me!!
WIN NOW
WINGRAMANIA!!!!
by Hans Petersen on Oct 30, 2011 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions
If I'm right...
…it’ll work for me too!!!
Here’s to hoping! :-)
Irony: an atheist Saints fan
by GSO Saints Fan on Oct 30, 2011 10:58 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Does anyone have a streaming link for the Saints game today? Send the link to jricky70@gmail.com
I spent 8 years trying to reach him...and then another 7 trying to keep him locked up because I realized what was living behind that boy's eyes was purely and simply...Evil.
Dr. Sam Loomis Aka (Donald Pleasence)
here's 1 dat i used
pretty good most of the time.
"We, in our building, didn't feel like we needed to have Reggie Bush to have a successful offense. We've had lots of games over the last five years where Reggie was unavailable. And yet, we've been able to move the ball, score points and win games at the same rate as when we did have Reggie." -- Saints General Manager Mickey Loomis
by halo2saints on Oct 30, 2011 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions
If the Saints have as much overconfidence
as we do on this board, we might have a fight on our hands-
Every NFL team is made up of professionals who can play the game,
and whenever a team comes to play with nothing to lose abandon, you can not take them lightly- I still believe the Saints will bring their A game- They have not forgotten the Tampa game already (I hope)
the Saints need to keep the pedal down
this was almost one of my Hot Reads
WIN NOW
WINGRAMANIA!!!!
by Hans Petersen on Oct 30, 2011 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, although AJ Feely is garbage, the longer he’s out on the field the longer the Rams offense has to get plays together and possibly, as you said in the article, get a long play on the saints. In my opinion it could happen on the run or the pass. I can see them keeping Feely throwing little dink and dunk passes and sometimes stretching the field. Lets hope the pass D from last week comes back to play. The run D seems to play relatively well and then BAM a 45 yard play. I would like to see our D line dominate their O line, I don’t think we can fully stop their run game due to Jacksons size but I want to be playing on their side of the line of scrimmage. I just don’t get how these big bodies on our D line can’t push around the majority of O lines in the NFL. Its a travesty!!
and let's not see the Saints phone it in on Special Teams and give up a big play!!!
WIN NOW
WINGRAMANIA!!!!
by Hans Petersen on Oct 30, 2011 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions
I forgot to say that I agree with all your reads today.
The prediction about the early lead to the Rams is super bold, especially 17 points!
and sickeningly prophetic
WIN NOW
WINGRAMANIA!!!!
by Hans Petersen on Oct 30, 2011 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions
It's Gameday, people!!!
We’re getting ready to leave my brother-in-law’s house and head to downtown St. Louis for the game.
The city is electrified and fired up…about the Cardinals World Series title. My brother-in-law is wearing a Cardinals baseball jersey to the game.
Who Dat?
WIN NOW
WINGRAMANIA!!!!
Hey guys?
Streaming link for the the game? Not televised here. jricky70@gmail.com
I spent 8 years trying to reach him...and then another 7 trying to keep him locked up because I realized what was living behind that boy's eyes was purely and simply...Evil.
Dr. Sam Loomis Aka (Donald Pleasence)
and our quarterback is also in decline
Can no longer make a reasonable case for this. Drew Brees is inclining.
Highway Patrol got his eyes on me, know what he's thinking and it ain't good
by stujo4 on Oct 30, 2011 10:26 AM CDT reply actions 2 recs
Rec’d.
"Dang! The Saints won the Super Bowl!" - my wife, Meso "Happy" Hu Dat.
by Dang Hu Dat on Oct 30, 2011 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions
Do I detect a paradigm shift here?
Are you reversing your position Stu?
Hmmm...
I probably shouldn’t come on this. ;-)
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by Dave Cariello on Aug 24, 2011 10:31 AM PDT
by Cajun in CA on Oct 30, 2011 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions
spoke too soon, my friend
WIN NOW
WINGRAMANIA!!!!
by Hans Petersen on Oct 30, 2011 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Spread is -14
The Saints scare me on the road with a huge spread. I still remember 2009 when the Rams had a chance to win when they threw a pass into the endzone that was broken up. I want to say by Harper and Torrence but I may be mistaken. Reggie had a couple of TD’s that game. Man our running backs are looking light years better than 2009. If our defense continues to grow we will be okay. I hope Drew puts the pedal to the metal and takes the 4th quarter off again!
Inactives for the game
New Orleans at St. Louis
Saints: RB Mark Ingram, CB Johnny Patrick, DE Turk McBride, TE David Thomas, WR Adian Arrington, OT Zach Stief, LB Will Herring
Rams: LB Brady Poppinga, QB Sam Bradford, T Jason Smith, RB Jerious Norwood, WR Danario Alexander, DT Darrell Scott, CB Justin King
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"We, in our building, didn't feel like we needed to have Reggie Bush to have a successful offense. We've had lots of games over the last five years where Reggie was unavailable. And yet, we've been able to move the ball, score points and win games at the same rate as when we did have Reggie." -- Saints General Manager Mickey Loomis

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