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New Orleans Saints Defensive and Special Teams Player Grades

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As far as I'm concerned, there's no need to look any further than the 4th and 1 overtime play. That stop was a season-defining moment and a reference point for the rest of the year. Say what you will about the struggles of the defense this year, that moment turned boys into men, figuratively speaking.

Moments before that, of course, the defense was gashed on a drive that almost went 95 yards in under two minutes with no timeouts, to cost the Saints the game. But while the defense gave up huge chunks of yards at times, the red zone defense came up big by keeping the opposition from getting in the end zone. That happened for the second straight week, just in time for crucial NFC South rival matchups.

This defense will never be confused with one of the best, but we're starting to see improved linebacker play, stronger showings from Roman Harper and better run defense. That should be good enough to win games with an offense like this. The coverage units happened to be pretty good, too.

Oh, and then there's the kicking game...outstanding as usual. I keep waiting for this Kasay experiment to blow up in the Saints face but his performance continues to be incredibly reliable. Garrett Hartley who? Make the jump for the grades.

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Will Smith: C- (2.67) He had one tackle and applied one hit on Matt Ryan on a nice inside move. Other than that, he failed to get good pressure on passing plays and he didn't factor in against the run like he normally does. A disappointing showing.

Cameron Jordan: B- (2.43) Once again, he's never going to be known for being an explosive pass rusher, but he's a reliable guy out there. He's physical, strong, he hustles and plays the run well. Those are all good things. He finished with 3 tackles and helped slow down Turner. He also had a tipped pass at the line of scrimmage to force an incomplete.

Junior Galette: C+ (2.14) He had no tackles but the lone sack of the afternoon was all because of him. In a 3 man front, he was still able to beat the right tackle around the edge and get a hand on Matt Ryan to disrupt him. Ryan had to step up in the pocket at that point where he was sacked by Harper on a delayed blitz. He deserves kudos for helping there.

Jeff Charleston: B- (2.33) He helped Herring finished off a tackle on special teams and he showed good hustle downfield on defense as a sub. And he was pretty good against the run too. He had 2 tackles.

Sedrick Ellis: B (2.17) Ellis was working hard in the middle and he redirected several running plays. He got involved many times and did a good job. He finished with 4 tackles. The first time we've had a good showing from him in a while. In fact, this is the best grade he's gotten all season.

Shaun Rogers: C (2.14) He had one tackle and a quiet day.

Aubrayo Franklin: C (2.13) Franklin redirected numerous runs up the middle due to his size. He was also pushed out of the way on a few which led to big gains. It's a tough game to grade him on because he had no tackles, but overall I thought he did a good job of being disruptive. The 4th and 1 play was obviously a shining moment. 

Tom Johnson:  C (2.50) He was in there and he was active chasing the play. He had no tackles but made no major mistakes.

Jonathan Casillas: B (2.57) It wasn't about his blitzing for a chance, but his coverage, which was honestly a huge improvement over what I've seen at other times this season, and his run support. He's getting more comfortable out there and you can tell his play recognition is improving. With reps he's turning into a pretty solid player. He had 7 tackles and ran well sideline to sideline. He actually looked like a complete linebacker out there. Who knew?

Scott Shanle: A- (2.37) He was physical against the run and did an admirable job the times he had to cover Tony Gonzalez. I know no one would want that job, but he did it and handled it well. Shanle's play has been improving considerably as of late, as he's making more plays around the line of scrimmage and tackling much better than he was earlier in the season. He also came up with a massive interception off the hands of Roddy White that he returned for 12 yards. 

Jo-Lonn Dunbar: B (2.78) He wasn't always great as he missed some tackles, was suspect in coverage and recognized some plays poorly... but overall he was more than you could ask for out of a backup and then some. These two games have been very promising since Jonathan Vilma sat out because of what we now know was knee surgery. He had 7 tackles, none bigger than the tackle on fullback Mike Cox just short of the first down that set up that 4th and 1.

Ramon Humber: B- (2.17) His lone tackle was in the open field on a 3rd down play where he did get pushed backwards a bit, but he was still able to make a stop short of a first down to force a punt. That was an important play.

Jabari Greer: B+ (2.73) He got abused, poor guy, coming up to tackle fullback Mike Cox on a screen play. Just completely run over. Sorry to point that one out Jabari. Otherwise, his coverage was once again excellent. He was on Roddy White for the majority of the game and at times he even shadowed Tony Gonzalez. He had 3 tackles and a defended pass. White was held to 4 catches for 62 yards, not nearly good enough for the amount of trash he talks. He was very solid out there.

Tracy Porter: B (2.57) He tackled well and was pretty physical. He came very close on two occasions to coming up with interceptions. You can just feel he's going to get one very soon as he gets good jumps on the ball. He absorbed blocking contact, fought through it, and blew up a bubble screen to Harry Douglas at one point for a 2 yard loss. He was flagged for pass interference on a 3rd down play on the final drive of regulation which was just criminal. That was a clean breakup in my book. He had 6 tackles.

Leigh Torrence: D (2.62) A very bad day in coverage. All the big plays that happened he was mostly responsible for. Harry Douglas victimized him often, usually running routes over the middle of the field. He got injured late in the game.

Roman Harper: A- (2.30) A very impressive showing from Harper. He was all over the field and largely responsible for the team slowing down Michael Turner thanks to his physical play in the trenches. He was all over the field and finished with a game high 13 tackles, including the only sack of the day. He had another tackle in the backfield as well, 2 QB knockdowns and a defended pass. The only negative which docks his grade slightly was a dropped interception in the end zone that would have ended the game but instead almost cost his team the victory. No excuses. He has to come up with that ball. I wouldn't call his GPA respectable just yet, but these last two A-'s have him going in the right direction. He was also one of the countless players that should have made a stop on Jason Snelling's touchdown.

Malcolm Jenkins: B (2.27) He missed a couple tackles on Michael Turner, but who didn't? Overall Jenkins laid some massive hits, many short of first downs, and was excellent not biting on numerous play fakes. His play recognition was excellent and I thought he was quick to the ball. My only regret is I wish he tackled cleaner in the open field. When he's closing on the ball, though, his hits are as ferocious as they come. He had 8 tackles. 

 

John Kasay: A- (3.10) His field goal attempts went in this sequence: Makes 52 yarder. Misses 40 yarder. Makes 48 yarder. Makes 44 yarder. Makes 45 yarder nullified by a penalty. Makes game ending/winning 26 yarder. He went 4 for 5 on field goals with 3 of the 4 makes 44 yards or further. Oddly his 40 yard attempt was one of the easier ones. He bounced back from that miss, though, and he made some huge kicks. And what's better than the game winner in overtime? Losing Hartley to IR was a devastating blow to the Saints but Kasay has managed to do every bit if not better than Hartley could have done. Quite impressive performance.

Thomas Morstead: B (3.50) Three out of his five kickoffs were touchbacks, and the other two only were returned for a 20.5 yard average. On punts, he completely shanked a 29 yarder out of bounds, and he blasted one 64 yards that ended up going for a touchback. He did pin three punts inside the 20, including one at the 1, with great backspin. He averaged 40.4 on 5 punts with a net average of 36.4. That's not quite up to his standard, but the Falcons got no return yardage at all. 

Courtney Roby: B (3.08) He had quite the eventful afternoon on special teams. He was a decoy on Darren Sproles' big kickoff return as they faked an end around to him, which helped keep the coverage honest. He downed two punts inside the 20. He also got flagged for holding but also drew a personal foul from Eric Weems who hit him after a play was over.  Busy day. It was all positive except for that holding penalty which docks his grade.

Will Herring: B (1.67) He blew up Eric Weems short of the 20 on a kickoff. What's not to like?

 

My Defensive Player of the Game: Roman Harper & Scott Shanle (tie)

My Special Teams Player of the Game: John Kasay

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Who was your defensive player of the game?
Scott Shanle
28 votes
Jo-Lonn Dunbar
17 votes
Jabari Greer
43 votes
Tracy Porter
9 votes
Roman Harper
263 votes

360 votes | Poll has closed

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Roman Harper

Has a real talent for shedding blockers

by '09 on Nov 15, 2011 11:14 AM CST reply actions  

Put the gun down FatPunkKicker
Losing Hartley to IR was a devastating blow to the Saints but Kasay has managed to do every bit if not better than Hartley could have done. Quite impressive performance.

R.I.P. Andy Rooney

by cajuncommando58 on Nov 15, 2011 11:16 AM CST reply actions  

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Just because we have chiseled abs and stunning features, it doesn't mean that we too can't not die in a freak gasoline fight accident.

by Fat Punk Kicker on Nov 15, 2011 2:12 PM CST up reply actions  

That's a pretty big Bo-Bo

I did’nt think it was that bad?

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by KilnBill on Nov 15, 2011 4:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Our defensive backs

Need to go through the same receiving school they put Colston through when he arrived-
We have had so many drops by our DB’s this year-

by '09 on Nov 15, 2011 11:16 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

BOOM Rec'd!

I was just about to suggest this for Harper. He had a great game but it should have been a lot better with an INT in the endzone to end the game without OT. Is Gregg Williams not putting them through pass catching drills anymore? I hope they’re still practicing this.

"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!

by David "Satch" Kelly on Nov 15, 2011 12:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Make them work out with Brees and when Brees gets tired put chase out there

Whats for dinner, dad?
Wookie Steak.
Is that good?
It's a little chewy.

by WestBank on Nov 15, 2011 1:11 PM CST up reply actions  

practice with chase only.

I don’t want Brees throwing interceptions EVER – in games or in practice.

by Dan Kelly on Nov 15, 2011 11:52 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm surprised

No recognition of Malcolm Jenkins on 4 and 1 stop. He picked the right gap and stopped Turner in backfield else the Falcons would have gotten a 1st down.

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by DrWhoDat on Nov 15, 2011 12:08 PM CST reply actions  

He also

Had a huge hit on roman harper on the near int.

by touchdown my pants on Nov 15, 2011 8:53 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Surprised about that also, Turner talked about getting the ball and there was someone already in his face, and that person was Malcolm. Janksgiving came early for us this year!!!

by Saintsfan75 on Nov 16, 2011 3:06 AM CST up reply actions  

the only real thing that concerns me about our WHOLE team is the pass rush.

If we had a pass rush just a little bit better- one marquis player to replace one of our DEs, we would be a whole step closer to the SB. That’s our Achilles heel. Having said that, if our offense plays it’s best or near it, we can compete with anyone.

Still would love a pass rush.

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by Philinwood on Nov 15, 2011 1:11 PM CST reply actions  

pass rush was bad, we were rushing loads of people and not getting any pressure, well much pressure. Seemed like we were rushing intop max protect quite a bit as well.

Whats for dinner, dad?
Wookie Steak.
Is that good?
It's a little chewy.

by WestBank on Nov 15, 2011 1:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Just to add a bit to this, our front four are struggling this year with QB pressure, badly. I really want to see at least one of our DE’s get 10 sacks for the season. If somehow we could develop more pressure from the front we could blitz less people, more effectively, and in turn play the pass mo betta. More coverage sacks, more quick throws/bad decisions into interceptions etc. I can’t wrap my head around why our front four pressure is so lacking when i thought, with the additions of franklin and Rogers, we would be so much better than previous years. That kills me!

Whats for dinner, dad?
Wookie Steak.
Is that good?
It's a little chewy.

by WestBank on Nov 15, 2011 4:24 PM CST up reply actions  

I really want to see at least one of our DE’s get 10 sacks for the season.

I really want to see Kyle Richards naked this season. That’s not going to happen either.

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by stujo4 on Nov 15, 2011 4:27 PM CST up reply actions  

LOL

I’m glad to see we both have dreams though. Thats something, right?

Whats for dinner, dad?
Wookie Steak.
Is that good?
It's a little chewy.

by WestBank on Nov 15, 2011 4:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Wait...

Kyle Richards…

or Michael Richards?

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by Doc Boudin on Nov 15, 2011 5:24 PM CST up reply actions  

There's something a bit manly about her jaw

I’d be careful, that one might be packin’ junk.

by Valmo on Nov 15, 2011 6:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Which one?

Kyle or Michael?

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by Doc Boudin on Nov 15, 2011 7:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Ok. I'll do the dirty work for ya' -

Trying to open a can of beer with a corkscrew only scratches the surface.

by Just 'Nother Day on Nov 16, 2011 1:06 AM CST up reply actions  

Wow. You went there.

Well played, sir. A tip of my tiny, tiny hat to you.

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by Doc Boudin on Nov 16, 2011 5:48 AM CST up reply actions  

good grades here

Red zone offense was stellar.

Whats for dinner, dad?
Wookie Steak.
Is that good?
It's a little chewy.

by WestBank on Nov 15, 2011 1:13 PM CST reply actions  

er re zone defense i mean

Whats for dinner, dad?
Wookie Steak.
Is that good?
It's a little chewy.

by WestBank on Nov 15, 2011 4:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Will Smith

I was at the pitched tent and I can tell you that Will Smith was held and chipped every single play. I will also like to point out that he got a huge push and got to Turner on the 4th and incehes. Will Smith should have probably recieved a higher grade but all in all a fair assesment of the players.

by BASAINT on Nov 15, 2011 1:37 PM CST reply actions  

A MINUS??? A MINUS???

That is horse poop. He missed a 40 yarder and he gets and A-. If that were me you would be looking to string me up by my short and curlys. A- my butt

Just because we have chiseled abs and stunning features, it doesn't mean that we too can't not die in a freak gasoline fight accident.

by Fat Punk Kicker on Nov 15, 2011 2:11 PM CST reply actions  

Because if that was you, it would have cost us the game

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by triplea20x on Nov 15, 2011 2:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Now you know i'm not one to defend FatPunkKicker, but....

We would be screaming for Garrett’s head if he had missed a 40 yard field goal. In fact we have just about lynched him on his misses in the past. I like Kasay and am glad we have him given that FPK is hurt again (too many jelly donuts….but thats another story). But it seems to me that Kasay has several easy misses this year….and I don’t think we would be giving FPK A minuses with this kind of performance. Like I said, not knocking Kasay, I’m glad we have him, but A minus?

Our fat punk kicker, Garrett Hartley, missed a game-winner and we lost for the second week in a row - Scott Fujita in 2009

by Ragin Who Dat on Nov 15, 2011 2:31 PM CST up reply actions  

I just want it to be fair...

Just because we have chiseled abs and stunning features, it doesn't mean that we too can't not die in a freak gasoline fight accident.

by Fat Punk Kicker on Nov 15, 2011 2:47 PM CST up reply actions  

I think instead of a Fleur-de-lis between the goal posts we should put......

a chocolate eclair or a beignet when FPK gets back. I’m sure that would improve his accuracy.

Our fat punk kicker, Garrett Hartley, missed a game-winner and we lost for the second week in a row - Scott Fujita in 2009

by Ragin Who Dat on Nov 15, 2011 3:00 PM CST up reply actions  

HMMMMMMMMM Food

Just because we have chiseled abs and stunning features, it doesn't mean that we too can't not die in a freak gasoline fight accident.

by Fat Punk Kicker on Nov 15, 2011 3:03 PM CST up reply actions  

HA! I knew it would work.

Our fat punk kicker, Garrett Hartley, missed a game-winner and we lost for the second week in a row - Scott Fujita in 2009

by Ragin Who Dat on Nov 15, 2011 3:05 PM CST up reply actions  

How long was the attempt Hartley missed against ATL last season? I’m asking for your own edification…

by BlackandGold4ever on Nov 15, 2011 3:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Well there was the 32 yarder that sent the game into overtime. Then there was the 71 yarder he missed in OT. Yeah you read it rigth 71 yards

How long was the attempt that Hartley made in overtime in the playoffs to send the Saints to the Super Bowl? I’m asking for your own edification…

Just because we have chiseled abs and stunning features, it doesn't mean that we too can't not die in a freak gasoline fight accident.

by Fat Punk Kicker on Nov 15, 2011 4:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Hey, I’m not arguing for Kasay for next season…just saying that people want to jump all over the guy every time he misses. I was actually standing behind our kicker last season as well.

by BlackandGold4ever on Nov 16, 2011 7:57 AM CST up reply actions  

not that it matters much

but looking at that picture, you can see Kasay’s got a bit of a gut, too…

maybe he could be called OlderFPK or OFPK

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by Hans Petersen on Nov 16, 2011 1:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Or the 52 yarder that was the difference in the 2nd Flacons game last year.

Just because we have chiseled abs and stunning features, it doesn't mean that we too can't not die in a freak gasoline fight accident.

by Fat Punk Kicker on Nov 15, 2011 4:24 PM CST up reply actions  

The one you missed game one vs ATL regular season OT was 29 yards, and it hurt almost as much as when Carney missed that extra point after the river city relay vs jax

Whats for dinner, dad?
Wookie Steak.
Is that good?
It's a little chewy.

by WestBank on Nov 15, 2011 4:29 PM CST up reply actions  

but honestly, what can be expected from a sooner.

Whats for dinner, dad?
Wookie Steak.
Is that good?
It's a little chewy.

by WestBank on Nov 15, 2011 4:31 PM CST up reply actions  

No I was kicking the other way it was actually a 91 yarder, I am just that good, I said 71 to look modest

Just because we have chiseled abs and stunning features, it doesn't mean that we too can't not die in a freak gasoline fight accident.

by Fat Punk Kicker on Nov 15, 2011 4:34 PM CST up reply actions  

got cha, I read it as a facetious comment to begin with but just wanted to remind those who didn’t remember of how heartbreaking that kick was.

Whats for dinner, dad?
Wookie Steak.
Is that good?
It's a little chewy.

by WestBank on Nov 15, 2011 4:39 PM CST up reply actions  

I'd say for a 91 yarder

it was pretty close! LOL

"Daddy, them cigarettes are gonna kill you". My aunts last words to my 96 year old grandpa before he fell out of bed and broke his neck reaching for a full pack.

by KilnBill on Nov 15, 2011 5:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Scott Shanle called the time-out in OT to change our defensive play call....

Did anyone hear this? My co-worker told me that he read the Saints were convinced that the Falcons were just going to try and catch us offsides with the hard snap count. But when we lined up Shanle noticed that they had two tight ends in the game and were lining up for a rush up the middle. He then called a timeout and asked that we put our heavy hitters in there to stuff the line. Is this true? If true, WAY TO GO SHANLE!!! Also kudos to Jenkins who appeared to be the first defender to make contact on Turner behind the line.

Our fat punk kicker, Garrett Hartley, missed a game-winner and we lost for the second week in a row - Scott Fujita in 2009

by Ragin Who Dat on Nov 15, 2011 2:27 PM CST reply actions  

I don’t think so. I distinctly remember seeing Greg Williams call the time out. He may have been the player to report which formation they were lined up in though.

by thisiscnn22000 on Nov 15, 2011 2:33 PM CST up reply actions  

It was Greg Williams and Sean Payton was not happy about it. Williams told him to just shut up…lol

by BlackandGold4ever on Nov 15, 2011 3:20 PM CST up reply actions  

I’m thinking he might have felt better about it afterwards…

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by Doc Boudin on Nov 15, 2011 5:26 PM CST up reply actions  

BUT WHAT ABOUT GREG WILLAMS' GRADE?????

That last falcons td scoring drive where the defense played prevent or something similiar to prevent was autrocious! What kind of prevent or whatever rushes 3 and recievers are WIDE OPEN? When I said wide open, I mean where the nearest Saints’ defender is 10 yards away! It was wild the first time it happened & figured someone would be there next time… THEN IT HAPPENED AGAIN!….. THEN AGAIN! I know I wasn’t the only Saints’ fan that got a few more gray hairs on Sunday. To give Sean Rodgers a C when WE ALL KNOW he was one of the main reasons that line didn’t budge on that 4th & 1.

by fshabazz on Nov 15, 2011 3:12 PM CST reply actions  

That was certainly confusion and absolutely terrible on either play calling or coverage assignments on the field. If anything a timeout should have been called to adjust after the first goof.

Whats for dinner, dad?
Wookie Steak.
Is that good?
It's a little chewy.

by WestBank on Nov 15, 2011 4:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Williams deserves a D-

I think he has a good defensive scheme, I’m just not so sure our guys can pull it off. It seems we are always playing a prevent / loose zone coverage and blitzing. Since our guys aren’t really getting to the QB quickly, he just throws it to the wide open receiver. How many times are we going to do this until GW figures out it’s not working? Maybe if we’re gonna rush we could at least bump the receivers on the line to disrupt the play so our blitzers have more time to get to the QB. Let’s face it, Matty Ice is a mediocre quarterback at best. There’s no way he should have been able to drive down the field with 2 minutes left and score a field goal (almost a touchdown). The only reason Williams doesn’t get an F in my book is because of the stuff on 4th and inches.

Our fat punk kicker, Garrett Hartley, missed a game-winner and we lost for the second week in a row - Scott Fujita in 2009

by Ragin Who Dat on Nov 15, 2011 3:53 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Agree completely , Rec

I really don’t think GW is gonna change. His view on what defines a successful blitz must be different than the rest of the football world.

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by AcquiredPanic on Nov 15, 2011 9:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Williams can’t really be blamed for the failure of his Defense, as I said earlier in this thread, the front 4 can’t get pressure on the QB without help so we run into situations where the QB makes a quick throw and gets yards. The failure is with the front four not the plan.

Whats for dinner, dad?
Wookie Steak.
Is that good?
It's a little chewy.

by WestBank on Nov 15, 2011 4:40 PM CST up reply actions  

Losing my trust in Williams...

If it wasnt for roddy white dropping a TD pass, we would have let them drive 95 yards in under 2 minutes with no timeouts.
I’m not sure exactly if our players aren’t good enough, or Williams isn’t utilizing them properly. We have will smith, cam jordan, ellis, jenkins, prob who are all first round picks and franklin was highly regarded in SF last year. I’m sure we have the talent but it isnt being utilized properly.

by forrestgump52 on Nov 15, 2011 4:50 PM CST up reply actions  

could be that we aren’t using them properly or that the Defense isn’t as good as the Oline we are playing against. What ever the reason, we didn;t get much pressure from the front 4 on non blitzing nor from the blitz with LB and secondary help. We have the talent there, as you said, they just can’t seem to get it going.

Whats for dinner, dad?
Wookie Steak.
Is that good?
It's a little chewy.

by WestBank on Nov 15, 2011 4:56 PM CST up reply actions  

He isn't using them properly

We don’t have the players that fit his scheme. We need faster linebackers, one great corner, and DT’s that can push into the backfield on a consistent basis. I really believe if we quit blitzing so often and changed to a coverage scheme……we would have a much improved defense. But he refuses to change because of his reputation as an aggressive coordinator. We have talent all over the field but it is going to waste in this scheme.

When hell is full.....the dead will walk the earth.

by AcquiredPanic on Nov 15, 2011 9:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Agree completely

We have talented guys, but just not to fit his scheme. And I’m not against blitzing, but since our blitzers aren’t quick, maybe we should check the receivers at the line when blitzing instead of playing 20 yards off the line. Hell I could make that completion.

Our fat punk kicker, Garrett Hartley, missed a game-winner and we lost for the second week in a row - Scott Fujita in 2009

by Ragin Who Dat on Nov 16, 2011 10:37 AM CST up reply actions  

Maybe Williams can't be blamed for the failure of his Defense....

but he can certainly be blamed for calling the defensive scheme that is not best suited for the players that we have. If our players can’t even get to the opposing QB when we’re blitzing, then maybe we should try covering more. Or instead of playing 15 yards off the line, maybe we should bump them more. One thing I can tell you, what we’re doing ain’t working that well. How long is Williams going to keep calling the same defense and letting crappy teams back in the game? Maybe he should try something different.

Our fat punk kicker, Garrett Hartley, missed a game-winner and we lost for the second week in a row - Scott Fujita in 2009

by Ragin Who Dat on Nov 15, 2011 5:01 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't think it was a prevent defense

I think it was a " bend and give up real estate defense."

  Seemed like they had the outside and deep covered pretty well – and obviously in that situation you give up some ground in the middle, but that was excessive!

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by Philinwood on Nov 15, 2011 3:48 PM CST reply actions  

San Fran used to do the same thing in the 80’s. They had the bend don’t break attitude and would let the teams get close to the end zone to shorten the field. They then stopped the other team and forced a field goal. Then Montana would go down and score the TD. I kinda see that as our defensive scheme. Drew goes down and scores the TD and we try to hold the other team to a FG. Honestly, I don’t like it because we don’t score the TD enough times.

by Saintsfan75 on Nov 16, 2011 3:26 AM CST up reply actions  

It's basically gambling

and the thing about gambling is sometimes you lose the bet.

by Valmo on Nov 16, 2011 5:34 AM CST up reply actions  

Roman Harper: A-

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Roman Harper was named NFC Defensive Player of the Week for the second time this season after stuffing the stat sheet against the Falcons. Harper won the same honor for his performance against the Bears in Week 2. After coaches film review, Harper was credited with 16 tackles, two altered passes, one sack, one pass defensed, and two tackles for losses in the Saints’ 26-23 victory at Atlanta. Harper leads the Saints with 69 tackles and all NFL defensive backs with 6.5 sacks.
Nov 15 -
Because every other NFC defensive player was mediocre or sucked this week.

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Lord, they put me in the jail house for loafing on the street

by stujo4 on Nov 15, 2011 4:08 PM CST reply actions  

He would be the man if he could catch. He was like a polomalu with butter fingers last game.

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Wookie Steak.
Is that good?
It's a little chewy.

by WestBank on Nov 15, 2011 4:48 PM CST up reply actions  

He He HE!!!

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by KilnBill on Nov 15, 2011 4:09 PM CST reply actions  

meh...

Shaun Rogers finally has a good game and you gave him a C.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39GH-nzrY_I&feature=relatde

by tlsk1066 on Nov 15, 2011 8:23 PM CST reply actions  

I read somewhere,

I think on espn, that him and will smith were the key guys on the 4th and 1 play

by touchdown my pants on Nov 15, 2011 8:50 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Im thinking dunbar gets a......

F. He did hit my cox on the 3rd down but my cox slipped through,hehe, a little and was able to reach for the first, which lucky for us he dropped it, but otherwise it woulda been a first.
dunbar sucks, that is all

by touchdown my pants on Nov 15, 2011 8:49 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

voted Harper...

Great run stuffing. Shout-out to Casillas.

"I'm in my own zone"

by saints whoaday on Nov 15, 2011 10:54 PM CST reply actions  

in regards to Harper.... good safeties are not easy to come by these days-

Harper is a good one and Saints fans should appreciate him.

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by Philinwood on Nov 16, 2011 7:01 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

Enough with the freaking blitzing already! Oh and LT blows…

by SarahT on Nov 16, 2011 10:53 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

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