Giants 24 @ Saints 49: Who Dat Say!?
by Hans Petersen on Nov 29, 2011 5:51 AM CST
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Well, the Saints easily doubled up the New York Giants last night, 49-24, bringing their season record to 8-3. This win over the Giants also puts the Saints Monday Night Football record at a sterling 8-2 under Sean Payton, which bodes well for our next MNF game against the Atlanta Falcons on December 26. The Saints last lost on MNF to the Minnesota Vikings way back in 2008 in an epic shootout for the ages.
Make the jump to dig into all the post-game stories, quotes and videos I could find. Enjoy your Tuesday, folks!! I know I will, and something that's nice is that after 15 days of no Saints football, we have just six days until the Saints lace 'em up again to play the Detroit Lions on Sunday Night is Football Night.
New York Giants vs. New Orleans Saints | ESPN.com
NFL Football Recap: Final statistics from the New York vs. New Orleans game played on November 28, 2011. Includes play-by-play, drive charts, photos.
Saints Dominate Giants for 49-24 Win | neworleanssaints.com
Staff Report
Saints steamroll Giants in 49-24 prime time win | wwltv.com
Bradley Handwerger - New Orleans pounded New York 49-24 on Monday Night Football, sending the reeling NFC East Giants back to the Northeast likely wondering where another season went wrong.
Saints light up scoreboard, Giants on Monday night, 49-24 | sportsnola.com
Chris Seeman
New Orleans Saints run all over the New York Giants 49-24 at the Superdome | NOLA.com
James Varney - Saints improve to 8-3 with overwhelming performance.
Photo Gallery: Giants @ Saints | NOLA.com
Michael DeMocker
Photo Gallery: Giants @ Saints II | NOLA.com
Michael DeMocker, Elliott Kamenitz, Ted Jackson.
From the Saints Sideline
Chris Ivory was the odd running back out Monday night for New Orleans Saints| NOLA.com
Nakia Hogan - Pierre Thomas, Darren Sproles, Mark Ingram all contribute.
New York Giants have no answer for Drew Brees | NOLA.com
Peter Finney - Saints quarterback passes for 363 yards, four TDs.
New Orleans Saints send message to rest of NFC with dominating 49-24 victory: Duncan | NOLA.com
Jeff Duncan - Giants couldn't stop Drew Brees, Saints.
New Orleans Saints defense comes up with the big plays: DeShazier | NOLA.com
John DeShazier - Two forced turnovers were game-changers.
Brees-ing to victory | The Advocate
Sheldon Mickles - After spending most of the 2010 season futilely chasing the Atlanta Falcons in the race for the NFC South title, the New Orleans Saints were determined not to let it happen again.
Primetime players | The Advocate
Staff Report - Playing at home in primetime seems to bring out the best in the New Orleans Saints under sixth-year coach Sean Payton.
Brees is beyond a 'rare leader' | wwltv.com
Bradley Handwerger - For what could be the first time in Drew Brees’ life as a New Orleans Saints savior, he failed to do something he set his mind to.
Rapid Reaction: Saints 49, Giants 24 - NFC South Blog | ESPN.com
Pat Y. - Thoughts on the New Orleans Saints' 49-24 win against the New York Giants on Monday night at the Mercedes-Benz Superdome.
Drew Brees for MVP? - NFC South Blog | ESPN.com
Pat Y. - Maybe the reason Drew Brees is such a good quarterback is because he can see things the rest of us can't.
Saints Postgame Notes | neworleanssaints.com
Staff Report
Grading the New Orleans Saints offense against the New York Giants | NOLA.com
Mike Triplett
Grading the New Orleans Saints defense against the New York Giants | NOLA.com
Mike Triplett
Grading the New Orleans Saints special teams against the New York Giants | NOLA.com
Kevin Spain
Grading the New Orleans Saints coaching against the New York Giants | NOLA.com
Mike Triplett
Start Spreading the News
Brees and Saints Have Their Way Against Giants | NYTimes.com
Sam Borden - The Giants lost their third game in a row, falling to the Saints and quarterback Drew Brees and furthering thoughts of another late-season collapse by a team that has endured them in the past.
No Consistent Running Game for the Giants | NYTimes.com
Sam Borden - For the second straight week, the Giants failed to establish any sort of running game, as Brandon Jacobs led the Giants' rushers with just 46 yards on 13 carries.
Cruz Remains Humble in Defeat | giants.com
Dan Salomone
Mixed Reviews For Giants Special Teams | giants.com
Dan Salomone
Rapid Reaction: Saints 49, Giants 24 - NFC East Blog | ESPN.com
Dan Graziano - A couple of thoughts on the overmatched New York Giants' third loss in a row.
Giants just aren't built to win - NFC East Blog | ESPN.com
Dan Graziano - There was absolutely nothing the New York Giants could do.
Post-Game Quotes
NEW ORLEANS SAINTS COACH SEAN PAYTON
"Obviously, it was a big win for us. I thought our guys came off sharp off the bye. Like any game, it wasn't perfect. We had a lot of penalties. We'll have a chance to watch the tape and try to get some of those things corrected, but I thought all three aspects; defense, kicking game and offensively, we did a real good job. It was an important win for us to get to eight. Starting this next stretch of the season after the bye week we felt like this was going to be a tough opponent coming in with the two losses they've had prior to our game. I thought our players handled the schedule well and I was pleased with the win."
(on Drew Brees) "It's that confidence that players around him have, and obviously, we have in him. I've said this before about Drew; he's his own worst critic and he is as hard on himself as anyone else could possibly be. The time he has been in our system, we're on year six now and he's throwing the ball with great rhythm and anticipation. He would tell you that we are doing a good job of protecting, we had the balance we're looking for in November and December; I thought we ran it well tonight, we ran it very well. Those are all things that are good allies for a quarterback, but he made some fantastic throws tonight."
(on drive at end of first half) "The ball's on the 20, and there's times where we're going to be smart with the sequence, there is a big play in that drive if I'm not mistaken that gains about 388 yards and all of the sudden it really changes how you approach it. Drew understands that; he understands the situation, and when we are sending the play in it's with the mindset we are going to be smart. What you're kind of looking for is a play that brings you near midfield, and all of the sudden we got that and ended up capitalizing on it."
(on if having a QB like Drew Brees changes certain situations) "Yes, absolutely, but you're over a minute. I think when you get down in the 30 second range, each scenario is different, but to answer the question, yes. There's a confidence we have in that he understands the situation, and he understands the significance. We try to gain as many possessions as we can and we still felt we had enough time on the clock. You start a drill like that for a play, maybe a field goal, and we just had enough big plays that we ended up scoring."
(on Jimmy Graham) "He is a big part of what we do. You saw the last third of the season last year, you saw him really come on. He is a big factor for is in the red area. He's got very good hands. He's tough. With all the athleticism and the talent he has, he's very intelligent and he is an extremely dedicated worker. Those special players have all of those things. He's a young player that keeps getting better and we are excited for him. You can see the confidence that Drew has in him and that his teammates have in him."
(on what ways the team is better than opening week) "I think we have found balance. It's a long season, and the thing we try to do as best we can is just trying to improve and win each week and win each day at practice. There is a lot that goes into that. We felt like early in the season we hadn't played the red zone as well as we'd like to defensively and offensively, but this last month or so it's been an area that we have gotten better at it. You have go to take a win like tonight and be critical of yourself and look at some of the things that we need to correct. The minute you stop doing that I think you start going the other direction."
NEW ORLEANS SAINTS PLAYERS
QB #9 DREW BREES
(on score at end of first half) "I think we feel very comfortable and confident in the two-minute drill. I think it does a lot for your psyche.
"I think what it comes down to is we have a lot of confidence and we play very aggressive. We put a value on going down and getting points. Is there risk involved? Yes. When you do it as much as we do with the mentality we do, you make it part of the way you operate.
(more on end of first half) "It's huge. They come out and score the first possession of the second half. Instead of being 14-10, it's 21-10.
(on dunk attempt after rushing TD) "I knew I was going to get some flak for that. I deserve it. I can dunk it. Pull up Miami '09. I've been telling Jimmy (Graham) and the rest of the guys that I've got a dunk coming. I don't know when's the next opportunity I'll get to do this. Right as I went off one leg, I didn't quite get the oomph I was hoping for, so it turned into a finger roll.
(comparisons to 2009) "I feel like we have the opportunity to be better. We're not there yet. As I look at our guys, we have a lot of guys from that '09 team. The guys we've added - Jimmy Graham, Darren Sproles, Mark Ingram - not too shabby.
"I expect perfection. I understand that's impossible to achieve. Deep down, I know there's some things I can do better.
"After tomorrow, we have to put this thing behind us and it's on to Detroit. There's never a time to rest and never a dull moment.
TE #80 JIMMY GRAHAM
"Things were just cooking tonight. Anything we tried, it seemed to work.
"We really talked about winning the month of November. That's something we really focused on. We did a great job with that. Now it's the next step. For us, it's just one game at a time.
"I'm doing all right. I'm figuring it out, but I've still got a long way to go. I'm definitely learning. Drew's a big part of that, just helping me to learn at a much faster pace."
CB #22 TRACY PORTER
"Gregg (Williams) has confidence in me. Playing the nickel is a difficult position. A receiver only has so many routes, but the slot guy can use all over the field. It's just a testament of the confidence that Greg and the rest of the defensive coaches has in me. I just have to accept that challenge."
"Coming in week and in week out we want to win the turnover battle. We are near the bottom in the interceptions on the season. You want to finish on the positive end each game. That's what we strive to do week in and week out and that's what we did tomight."
LB #54 WILL HERRING
(on INT) "It's one of those opportunities that you hope to get in the game. My number was called. We had pressure coming off the strong side. I think they ran a go vertical route. I was matched up with the tight end and made the play."
"I think that we were very prepared. Going in we had some good tips as far as knowing run/pass downs. From what I saw, they held true. Our defensive coaches did a great job. They give us a ton of information on Tuesday and we spend our free time processing it. We had one that we'd like to get back at the end. For the most part, we held true."
WR #16 LANCE MOORE
"It feels good. We'll enjoy it tonight, but we'll get right back to work tomorrow. That is definitely how our offense should roll. Any guy could have a big night. Fortunately, it was me early in the game and Jimmy (Graham) later in the game. Drew Brees is the guy that makes us go. As long as he is back there calling plays and making those throws than we have a chance."
(on TD at end of first half) "It's one of those situations where we felt like we have enough time. Drew is the guy running the show back there. He was in Coach Payton's ear saying let's go. We made those plays and scored right before the half."
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NEW YORK GIANTS COACH TOM COUGHLIN
"Our players were very serious about their preparation. We did a good job these last couple of days of continuing to study. Obviously, we had a tough time stopping them. I am responsible for two of those scores (by the Saints). The rookie fumbled, giving the ball up. And going for it on fourth down because we basically had to. I knew they (the Saints) would try to score. They did.
(on the Saints) "They're good. They're talented. They do a good job of moving the ball around. The quarterback does a good job of getting the ball out of his hands. We gave up far too many points, obviously.
(on turnovers) "We had two turnovers. We took seven points down from us and gave them seven points with the turnover. I tried to challenge on a whim that he was down before the ball came out. They ruled that they saw the ball moving. We got a little production out of the run. We got a lot of production out of the pass.
(on Saints offense) "We weren't able to cover them. They put themselves in position with simple little throws. They beat us in the flat a couple of times. And (they beat us) down the sideline. They have good personnel and they distribute it."
(on the effort of the team) "They tried. They tried. We didn't get to the passer (Drew Brees). When we don't get to the passer, we have trouble. That is, quite frankly, what I indicated to you in the Rams game. We knocked the quarterback down 15 times in that game. Pretty much you have to do that (to win)."
QB #10 ELI MANNING
(on first INT) "The defender just made a good play. We had the right play called down the seam and I threw it up there and the defender made a great play on the ball."
"This game I felt we got off good. We were driving and moving the ball good but then they made a good play in the end zone on the turnover. But overall we moved the ball well. We are getting the ball into scoring position but we are just making mistakes. We are having a drop, a missed throw - just different things that are costing us points. We know when you have an opportunity to score points on a team like the Saints you've got to do it; you can't go backwards.
"We know their offense is high powered. And we knew coming in we were going to have to score and not turned the ball over and play good offensively and have some long drives. We did that to an extent and we moved the ball and we got some first downs. But we just couldn't finish and that hurt us in the end.
"We can't get down and we can't get frustrated. We have to figure out how to bounce back. We know we've lost three straight games and we know we have a short week and a big game coming up. These last five games for us are big and will determine our season. We just need to figure out how to play better football than what we are doing right now."
CB #23 COREY WEBSTER
"There's not much we can do about the final outcome now. We came down here to win a game and we didn't. All we can do is prepare for another great opponent next week."
WR #80 VICTOR CRUZ
"This loss is real tough, but we have to understand there's a lot of football to be played. We still have a great chance to get ourselves in position for the playoffs. We can't get too down on ourselves because we have another tough opponent to play next week."
DE #91 JUSTIN TUCK
"It's tough because we know in the back of everyone's head they are going to say what's wrong with the Giants after three straight losses. But for us, we look forward to the next game because we feel like it's the playoffs right now. We aren't going to sit here and feel sorry for ourselves. We are going to go out there and fight. "
V-Roll Roll Call
Video: Giants vs. Saints highlights | neworleanssaints.com
The Saints put on a show in New Orleans with a 49-24 route of the Giants behind Drew Brees' 363 passing yards and 5 total touchdowns.
Video: Saints postgame press conference | neworleanssaints.com
Saints react following game with Giants.
Video: Graham keeps getting better and better | wwltv.com
Saints head coach Sean Payton on the exceptional play of tight end Jimmy Graham.
Video: Brees Apologizes to Jordan For His "Failed Dunk" | neworleanssaints.com
Saints QB Drew Brees apologizes to "his royal airness" Michael Jordan for his failed attempt at dunking the football over the goalpost after scoring on a nine-yard touchdown run.
Video: Offense may be best it's been in Brees era | wwltv.com
When asked if this is the most talented offensive team since he's been with the Saints, wide receiver Lance Moore said, "I'd have to say it is."
Video: Saints found '09 rhythm in win | wwltv.com
Saints running back Pierre Thomas on the win over the Giants and how the balanced attack and rhythm felt like the 2009 Super Bowl squad.
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Great win, time to get ready for the Cheetahs
During the Green Bay – Detroit game on Turkey Day I noticed just how much the Lions cheat. There was so much defensive holding going on w/ the receivers even I (who have no real love of either team) was irritated. Green Bay was eventually able to plow ahead regardless, but this was the reason the game was so close at the half. I’d implore Payton to get on the refs early in the game, because I know it’s going to happen.
Great thumping of the Giants, would have been even worse if the refs wouldn’t be throwing sissy flags everywhere. Those flags should be pink for ’Don’t hit him, he’s a girl!’ penalties. The hit on Eli that was penalized, as well as the supposed late hit out of bounds by PP was bogus. The defenseless receiver hit (ours) was questionable but their hit on Jimmy Graham seemed like a blatant attempt to knock him out. Too bad for them Jimmy is a beast and shook it right off (although common sense tells me he is going to feel that this morning).
Oh yeah and
If that Giants RB dancing in the end zone for a good 10 seconds right in the faces of the Saints defenders isn’t excessive celebration, I don’t know what is. Where was the flag? This constitutes unsportsmanlike conduct. He wasn’t just having fun, he was taunting.
Personally
The fact he kept trying to go at the Roman Harper (who he did run over to get in the end zone) should have made it a penalty. the second he started going back at him, they should have thrown the flag. I don’t really have an issue with end zone celebrations, but singling out an opponent like that is definitely unsportsmanlike conduct.
"I'm not allowed to comment on lousy officiating." -Jim Finks, New Orleans Saints G.M.
by theprogrammerman on Nov 29, 2011 6:24 AM CST up reply actions
I posted a tweet from Mike Pereira
that explains what he thinks about it
Let’s talk about this…
And what’s bad before he even started dancing and pointing at the Saints is the way Jacobs deliberately turned away from the direction of the Giants sideline and then walked through two Saints defenders, bumping them (not very hard, mind you, but in a purposeful attempt to intimidate them). The fact that he did this IMMEDIATELY PRIOR to that dance makes of the mind that if you consider those two things together, it makes the whole thing a “taunting” situation – like when Philly’s DeSean Jackson tossed the ball to Coach Fewell and then dusted himself off after making a long catch against the Giants last week…
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by Hans Petersen on Nov 29, 2011 6:29 AM CST up reply actions
oops
* makes ME of the mind
not “makes of the mind”
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by Hans Petersen on Nov 29, 2011 6:37 AM CST up reply actions
Well you are an epic loser if your team is getting it's a** kicked on the field and you taunt your opponent
The refs really sucked last night but that seems to be the norm
We have to beat the other team and the refs in every game
by mississippisaintsfan on Nov 29, 2011 6:50 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah the Saints got even more pissed after that spineless celebration from Jacobs. They don’t know what hit them.
I spent 8 years trying to reach him...and then another 7 trying to keep him locked up because I realized what was living behind that boy's eyes was purely and simply...Evil.
Dr. Sam Loomis Aka (Donald Pleasence)
That was disgraceful
Jacobs is a bully. When he is on top, he will rub it in. Often in classless fashion like last night.
Congrats on the win. It was a pleasure visiting with you folks this week.
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
NYG 30 NO 27
thank you. tommy D!!
we enjoyed the presence of you and the other BBVers this week, as well.
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by Hans Petersen on Nov 29, 2011 6:52 AM CST up reply actions
want to get some discussion going about the ref's calls last night
Check this comment I made in the post-game thread and let’s talk it out…
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and mark this down
I am completely fine with the league deciding that it wants to increase player safety and curtail ridiculous taunting as a point of emphasis.
But they owe the teams and the fans some explaining about how they can go about increasing the consistency with which these plays are flagged or not flagged across the league. They either need to tell us how these plays are different (even though they look the same), or admit when somebody screws it up, let us know how it was screwed up (ref was looking the other way, just didn’t call it correctly, etc.) and then tell us how they’re working to get all these plays correctly flagged or not flagged when they occur.
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by Hans Petersen on Nov 29, 2011 6:36 AM CST up reply actions
This won't ever happen but
Perhaps teams should be able to challenge a ref’s penalty call. Sometimes replay will show the refs that a particular hit wasn’t as flagrant a violation as they thought it was.
ooooh, this has potential but the league will NEVER go for it
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by Hans Petersen on Nov 29, 2011 6:53 AM CST up reply actions
You're right, never....but
sometimes these penalties can be just as costly as a bad call on a reception that wasn’t a catch, a fumble that wasn’t really a fumble, etc. All of these things can be reviewed, why not a bad call on a hit?
Also you only get 2 challenges per half so..
It’s not like it would delay the game any more than it already could be. If there was a bad call on a defense during a critical third down that would result in the opposing team otherwise having to punt or kick a field goal, and I thought it wasn’t a legit flag – I’d definitely challenge it.
I agree that they should be reviewable
and if indisputable video evidence shows it to be legal, the flag is picked up – I don’t see it as being any different from when the referees huddle before making a ruling so they get it right…especially since they’ve added so many significant subjective penalties that can REALLY change a game.
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by Hans Petersen on Nov 29, 2011 7:33 AM CST up reply actions
question
would you also want them to review video in order to insert a penalty that went uncalled by the refs, but might show up in the video review?
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by Hans Petersen on Nov 29, 2011 7:34 AM CST up reply actions
I think it would have to be limited
Should be able to challenge called penalties only, imo. Otherwise you’d be video reviewing every other play.
yeah
“Hey ref! I’m challenging that there was an uncalled holding penalty on this play….and the next and next and the one after that too.”
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by Hans Petersen on Nov 29, 2011 3:44 PM CST up reply actions
That would be awesome!
We would have won against Dallas in 2009.
At least two of their TD’s were a direct result of holding by the offense (not holding away from the play, but in the lane/corner the RB was running.)
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While we’re at it…
If you win a challenge (prove the refs wrong) you get to keep your challenge.
The only time your number of available challenges decreases is if you are prove wrong by the replay. (This might also prevent challenges for the heck of it.)
Yep...
Many of the bad calls against us have been just as bad as turnovers… they continued an opponents drive which often lead to a score, instead of giving us the ball back.
Oh I’ve been calling for this for YEARS now.
But the league won’t go for it unless they are FORCED into it.
Maybe congress should get involved.
It's not like they have anything important to do.
But if they can’t even get the HGH crisis resolved, that doesn’t bode well for any hope of actual progress on this issue.
That has been brought up more times than you can image.
The League doesn’t want that I guess. I think you should be able to challenge say 2 penalties a game like regular challenges. If you are not going to do that to correct the situation, then a committee should be in place, to review calls each week, and penalize the Refs for flagrant bad calls or non-calls.
R.I.P. Andy Rooney
by cajuncommando58 on Nov 29, 2011 12:24 PM CST up reply actions
Oh they already DO review the calls. The problem is they don’t PUBLISH the results. And they come up with some absolutely LUDICROUS statistics that are twisted into a pretzel to make things look better than they are.
When there is a bad call, the NFL needs to publicly apologize… not merely send a “oops our bad” letter in utter secrecy under penalty of fines or worse for revealing the letter’s existence.
ok, everybody
time to blow off work and talk about this game
I’m getting ready to get out of bed, make some coffee and start watching the NFL network post-game reports and the ESPN postgame reports that I DVR’ed last night.
did I mention that I am off work today?
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hahahahahahahahaha
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by Hans Petersen on Nov 29, 2011 7:38 AM CST up reply actions
Me too
I have next monday off also , but as last nights game ended here at 5.00am I would not
have been any use at all , despite the jugs of coffee consumed.
On the taunting, Jacobs was definately out of line, but all week peeps have been saying how soft he has become etc so maybe that is where that originated. Props to Cruz,though, as he
just ran back with the ball after his TD’s , maybe he was wise enough to see the folly in
OTT celebrations when his team is heading for a beat down.
That could`ve been me,a useless gnome* fishing
for turds in a birthing pool.
just saw again the replay of Drew Breeeeeeeees!!!! when he beat two sacks and found PT for the first down
and if you get to see it, watch what Justin Tuck does right after he misses getting the sack on Brees in the backfield first
he completely gives up on the play (watch the body language! you can almost smell the defeat), and then slowly gets up to his knees, then stands up
If he would have popped up and pursued Brees, even at half-speed, he could have still sacked Brees for a loss and maybe even blind-sided him to cause a fumble – Brees kept that play going so long…just goes to show you – NEVER give up on a play…play through the whistle.
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I was amazed by that play too
I loved the breakdown they did during the game showing that even when he was slipping out of the tackle, Drew was still scanning the field, looking for someone to throw to.
"I want to hand this trophy to the MVP of the Super Bowl -- and the MVP of the entire league.''
-- Saints coach Sean Payton, handing the Vince Lombardi Trophy to Drew Brees after Super Bowl 44.
yeah - love ya, BREEEEEEEEEES!!!
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by Hans Petersen on Nov 29, 2011 8:38 AM CST up reply actions
watching Payton's post-game presser now
He looks like he’s about 150 years old now – been through the ringer!!
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Herring's INT set stage & Brees running for TD was like "Twilight Zonish"
Won’t comment on refs cuz its too early to get angry… Herring’s INT in the endzone kinda took air out of Giants early. The drive down the field with Eli untouched and “booyah”…. It was after that defensive play, our Offense started clicking. For those who are familiar with my comments on Brees, know I prob started dancing when Brees scrambled then took off running for the TD! I believe thats the only thing separating Brees from Rodgers. Rodgers would scramble then run when the opportunity opens thereby extending the drive and eventually scoring, as oppose to Brees who would normally take the sack or try to thread into super tight coverage/INTs. For a QB to be considered “elite”, you have to move the ball down the field by any means neccesary which translate to many wins. Brees showed something which I hope is a sign of more to come. Hopefully all the way to the SB…..
It going to be fun to watch you guys roll through the playoffs. We love Sean Peyton too. he was once a giant. Thanks for having us over. Time to go bury myself in the sand just like last 4 seasons.
I've never been a big fan of Eli, but
I have to feel for the guy after watching that game. He did everything he could and more, only to watch his receivers drop ball after ball and the defense get gashed. It was nice for Saints fans, but that’s a frustrating way to lose a game.
Hell yea
Steve Young is an idiot. He said the Saints couldn’t beat the Packers because of our defense. Has he ever seen the packers defense?
Our fat punk kicker, Garrett Hartley, missed a game-winner and we lost for the second week in a row - Scott Fujita in 2009
by Ragin Who Dat on Nov 29, 2011 3:55 PM CST up reply actions
Yea….how dare the highly educated profession who knows football be contrarian to your point of view!
-Lombardi was wrong...it's the internet, not fatigue that makes cowards of us all. But then again, what do you expect. Not like the guy could see the future.
A jackapoo in a suit with a college degree
is still a jackapoo….and no that’s not a racist term, I just made the word up. For Steve Young. The Jackapoo.
Is a Jackapoo anything like a Jackalope?
For those of you too “young” to remember, he pretty much left the game because of repeated concussions. And the Saints did cough up a lot of points to the Packers in Game 1. So I’d give him a pass on this one.
Because he's a jackass
and he’s full of poo. He’s a Jackapoo. As to your comment I believe the Saints D is much improved since their first meeting, better than Green Bay’s I’d even say.
The problem was the lockout. Both defenses were horrible. They couldn’t stop Brees and we couldn’t stop Rodgers. Now that we are more than halfway through the season, I think we could give the pack a run for their money. As long as it is not in Green Bay in the winter when it is 30 below. Dome teams have never won a NFCCG in the frozen north. But then again no team has even given a schlaking (sp?) like we gave the colts. As the weather turns, I think we might see Rodgers in for some tough times. If we get to play GB in the NFCCG, I think we could give them a run for the money. We have a very elite set of running backs.
Reply to jeff.I.b.
Well I wasn’t the only one who thought Steve Young was an idiot. The “highly educated professional” sitting right next to him, named Trent Dilfer, also thought that Steve was a moron. In fact, Trent consistently highlighted steve’s moronic comments throughout the whole post game show. And many other “highly educated professionals” have commented that the Saints have the best chance against the packers. By the way, I’m a highly educated professional too.
Our fat punk kicker, Garrett Hartley, missed a game-winner and we lost for the second week in a row - Scott Fujita in 2009
by Ragin Who Dat on Nov 30, 2011 9:06 AM CST up reply actions
That’s nice…so am I…and based off what I’ve seen from our defense, I tend to agree with Steve. We’re the only team that can offensively stay with GB in my opinion…but everything I’ve seen tells me that their defense is better than ours at putting on pressure and causing turnovers. Just because someone differs in their opinion…does not make them an idiot or a moron. It’s simply a difference of opinion. It’s not like Steve was trying to overturn fact with smoke and mirrors. He was simply making an observation that by all points seems to be somewhat valid.
-Lombardi was wrong...it's the internet, not fatigue that makes cowards of us all. But then again, what do you expect. Not like the guy could see the future.
Well that's fine that you agree with Steve.....
And your reasoning is that GB’s defense is better than ours. But at best, that argument is debatable. Green Bay is giving up more yards than the Saints and are absolutely horrible at stopping 3rd down conversions. We are giving up more points per game and are getting fewer turnovers. That’s why I say in comparing the defenses it’s debatable who’s actually better (I think the Saints are better). But back to the point of Steve Young. If his reason that Green Bay would beat the Saints in a matchup is because “Aaron Rodgers salivates when he sees the Saints defense”, then that is a stupid point. Because Drew Brees salivates when he sees the Packers defense. I stand by my original comment. Steve Young was being a stupid talking head and his point was moronic. Both of our offenses are very closely matched and so are our defenses. Steve Young made it sound like we didn’t have a chance and was insulting to our team at the same time. He’s wrong. We definitely have the opportunity to beat Green Bay. I’m not saying we would definitely beat them, that’s why they play the game. But I agree with all of the other announcers at ESPN that night that said the Saints had the best chance of beating the Packers. Screw Steve Young.
Our fat punk kicker, Garrett Hartley, missed a game-winner and we lost for the second week in a row - Scott Fujita in 2009
by Ragin Who Dat on Nov 30, 2011 1:49 PM CST up reply actions
While I admit to seeing things through Black N Gold colored Glasses...
Steve Young is a jerk.
R.I.P. Andy Rooney
by cajuncommando58 on Nov 30, 2011 10:12 AM CST reply actions
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