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Report: Detroit Lions' Suh Suspended for Two Games

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Jay Glazer of Fox Sports is reporting that the Ndamukong Suh of the Detroit Lions has been suspended for two games by NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell, which may make him unavailable to play against the Saints on Sunday night.

Looks like it hit the "Twitterverse" first (shoutout to GRUMPS! for posting this first in a fanshot):

JayGlazer
Lions have been informed by league office that Ndamukong Suh has been suspended by Commissioner 2 games without pay.

That comes from Glazer's Twitter feed page.

Make the jump for more details...

UPDATE: Looks like ESPN.com's treating the suspension as a done deal with a bit more depth and supporting evidence in a story by the ESPN.com news services with help from the Associated Press that posted at 12:50 pm EST. 

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Glazer has also tweeted that the sanctions will not include any mandated counseling:

Also, it's a straight 2-game suspension without any stipulation by league that he has to go through any sort of anger mgmt counseling. He still may by team's advice but its not part of it

And he's reporting that there will be an expedited hearing process should Suh choose to appeal...

JayGlazer
Suh IS allowed to appeal and if he does there would likely be an expedited hearing before he misses this week's game.

So, if he appeals, a final decision should be made before the Lions play the Saints on Sunday night. We'll see how that plays out.

I heard an interview with Glazer on NFL Network in which he said that the appeal officers are former NFL player and head coach Art Shell and longtime NFL defensive coordinator Ted Cottrell, for what it's worth. 

SI.com has the AP report on this, and describes the incident thusly:

Suh stomped on the arm of Green Bay guard Evan Dietrich-Smith in the third quarter of the Lions' 27-15 loss and was ejected for kicking.

On the same play, Suh shoved Dietrich-Smith's helmet toward the turf while Dietrich-Smith was on the ground.

The report also notes the most recent suspension of this nature, from five years ago...

In 2006, the NFL suspended Titans DT Albert Haynesworth for five games for swiping his cleats across the head of helmetless Dallas center Andre Gurode.

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So, what do you think of this development. Should he appeal? Should he win his appeal? Was the two-game suspension merited, or too much/not enough? Would you rather face the Lions with or without Suh? (I think I hear U2 cutting this track right now with Weird Al)

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Ndamukong Suh has reportedly been suspended for two games. Righteous call or bogus?
Righteous. That's exactly what he deserves.
297 votes
Bogus. The league is out to get him, and only the man upstairs should judge him.
19 votes
Did you say burger?
60 votes

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I caaaaaan't live...with or without Suh.

ooooooooooooooooooo

can you see Jim Schwartz looking out of a window into the rain?

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by Hans Petersen on Nov 29, 2011 10:29 AM CST reply actions  

What I find of interest about this article is....

As Yahoo! Sports’ Dan Wetzel notes, Suh’s absence shouldn’t have too much effect on the team’s playoff chances should he choose to begin serving the suspension this week. The first game against the Saints was already penciled in as a loss, with or without Suh.

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by Tac Hammer on Nov 29, 2011 10:33 AM CST reply actions  

Suh it out of control

He has 8, count them 8 personal fouls against him this year. I did say he was out of control but I think that coaching is possibly encouraging it to happen. They are definitely allowing it. To quote Herm Edwards, “By the time he gets to 3 (personal fouls) he’s standing next to me during a game”. Having played Pop Warner and HS football, I believe he is setting a horrible example of sportsmanship. The fact that he is in denial and implicating religious beliefs to me, is appaling

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by HarborKat on Nov 30, 2011 12:20 PM CST up reply actions  

My thoughts exactly
I’m happy he won’t have the opportunity to try to injure Brees

This was my biggest concern going into this game. Not that I am so concerned about his ability as a play maker, but more his ability to take cheaper shots.

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by Grumps on Nov 29, 2011 10:53 AM CST up reply actions   2 recs

He made it sound like he was going to try to hurt Aaron Rodgers on Thanksgiving, too.

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Nov 29, 2011 10:55 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

He made it sound like he was going to try to hurt Aaron Rodgers on Thanksgiving, too

Yeah that was laughable. He was no where near Rodgers the whole game. Suh is a punk. Nuff said

I spent 8 years trying to reach him...and then another 7 trying to keep him locked up because I realized what was living behind that boy's eyes was purely and simply...Evil.

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by Jricky70 on Nov 29, 2011 11:03 AM CST up reply actions  

Unfortunatly

So are the rest of the Lions team. Nick Fairley and Cliff Avril? You’ve even got the backup thugs!! Smash the Lions, please.. Please…

11-0. Hell yeah. HEAR THAT ZUNDAR?

by arodgb on Nov 30, 2011 8:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Agreened

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law.

by AcquiredPanic on Nov 29, 2011 8:22 PM CST up reply actions  

I am kind of sad that he isn't going to play because once a team goes up by 10 or 14 the Lions seem to fall apart

And he has to be a big reason for thier meltdowns

Just because we have chiseled abs and stunning features, it doesn't mean that we too can't not die in a freak gasoline fight accident.

by Fat Punk Kicker on Nov 29, 2011 10:49 AM CST reply actions  

You looking for a job in Detroit, FPK?

by Dan Kelly on Nov 29, 2011 11:18 AM CST up reply actions  

Nope I just think that the Lions are young and mentally weak. And once things start to go bad

They start shooting themselves in the foot.

Just because we have chiseled abs and stunning features, it doesn't mean that we too can't not die in a freak gasoline fight accident.

by Fat Punk Kicker on Nov 29, 2011 11:43 AM CST up reply actions  

and you’re sad about that?

We should be happy about that, and use that to get an early lead a CRUSH THEM.

by Dan Kelly on Nov 29, 2011 11:52 AM CST up reply actions  

I guess I meant that I don't want the Lions to play someone who is sane and not hurt his own team

Just because we have chiseled abs and stunning features, it doesn't mean that we too can't not die in a freak gasoline fight accident.

by Fat Punk Kicker on Nov 29, 2011 3:55 PM CST up reply actions  

what have you done to yourself now?
shooting themselves in the foot.

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by Hans Petersen on Nov 29, 2011 11:55 AM CST up reply actions  

I think that’s now a punishable celebration.

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by VAsaintsfan on Nov 29, 2011 9:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh no they can't shoot themselves in the foot

Then they wouldn’t be able to kick people while they are laying on the ground….

by Valmo on Nov 29, 2011 9:04 PM CST up reply actions  

just saw this nugget on NFL network

before the Haynesworth suspension in 2006, the last multiple-game suspension for an on-field incident was November 23, 1986, when Charles Martin of the Packers bodyslammed Bears QB Jim McMahon. Martin received a 2-game suspension for that, too, and that was with good ole’ boy, Pete Rozelle as the Bossman.

The footage shows my favorite NFL ref of all time, stalwart Jerry Markbreit making the call wearing a cap that looks ridiculously large in retrospect.

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by Hans Petersen on Nov 29, 2011 10:51 AM CST reply actions  

self audit

did you see what I called him in the opening sentence? Guess I restructured the opener one too many times.

“the Ndamukong Suh” like he played at “THE Ohio State University” with MJ..Ha!

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by Hans Petersen on Nov 29, 2011 10:58 AM CST reply actions  

This whole thing is getting blown out of proportion

I dont think what Suh did was ant worse then what goes on all the time
I dont believe the stomp heard around the world was meant to inflict injury ,more like it was a reaction
He should have been fined about $25,000 and sent on his way thats it
But i’m not dis-appointed he wont play against us either way we would have found a way to keep him away from Drew he’s a DT not a DE

by mississippisaintsfan on Nov 29, 2011 11:02 AM CST reply actions  

I can understand a bit of that thinking MSSF

but on the other hand, he did that after he pushed the dude’s helmet into the ground multiple times, after he stood up, and while the other guy was lying on the ground on his back, defenseless. Much different from a more immediate you bumped me so I shoot my arms out to push you away.

And impulse control is a HUGE part of it, and he needs to learn to reign that in. Would Kyle Turley be able to mentor him?

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by Hans Petersen on Nov 29, 2011 11:14 AM CST up reply actions  

Plus take into account his history and you see a pattern. It is hard to defend a guy who continually makes it a point to do things that make it look like he is trying to hurt people outside of the rules of play.

by BlackandGold4ever on Nov 29, 2011 11:33 AM CST up reply actions  

“He should have been fined about $25,000”

it should have been at least $50,000 because he is a scumbag repeat offender.

by Dan Kelly on Nov 29, 2011 11:19 AM CST up reply actions  

Ok $50,000 but to remove a guy at the end of the year when they are trying to make a playoff run is harsh

And if he was a Saint we would be pissed about the suspension
I disagree with Rex Ryan they shouldnt release him and let him go to the Jets
They should release him and let him come here

by mississippisaintsfan on Nov 29, 2011 11:52 AM CST up reply actions  

It doesn’t matter when it happens.

If you break the rules (repeatedly), you should be punished.

" if he was a Saint we would be pissed about the suspension"

I’m not so sure. There are homers here who would be, but there are level headed guys here to that would be PISSED at Suh for being such an idiot.

by Dan Kelly on Nov 29, 2011 11:54 AM CST up reply actions   2 recs

IMO

I can’t stand the selfish/illogical plays made by players that hurt the team. I can’t stand the penalties for showboating or personal fouls. If you score a TD, act like Jerry Rice did. He was never one to show boat. Why? He always knew he was going to get back to the endzone.

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by Grumps on Nov 29, 2011 11:57 AM CST up reply actions  

I agree…

And, on top of that… if you down by 10 points AFTER your score… there’s really no reason to celebrate THAT much, just yet.

by Dan Kelly on Nov 29, 2011 12:00 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree on the show boating act like you been there before

But there’s too many judgement calls on personal fouls
No doubt about Suh
But the refs seem to be blind dumb and incompetent too many times to hold personal fouls against many players

by mississippisaintsfan on Nov 29, 2011 12:00 PM CST up reply actions  

I think all these new rules are screwing it up for everyone

Too many judgement calls for the refs. I understand the need for safety but this learning curve is really screwing over teams. I wish they could get it together so that everyone benefits.

by SarahT on Nov 29, 2011 2:16 PM CST up reply actions  

^^^^this!

"Well, that sucked."-stujo4 on Rams vs. Saints

by BRSaintsFan on Nov 29, 2011 5:49 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Barry Sanders

In my opinion, Barry was the epitome of a class player. Score a TD, jog over to the ref, hand him the ball, jog to the sideline, repeat. As a former Lion I wonder what he thinks of all this

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by HarborKat on Nov 29, 2011 2:55 PM CST up reply actions  

I was upset at Roman Harper for doing his late hit in the end zone routine for the second time this season.

by BlackandGold4ever on Nov 29, 2011 12:07 PM CST up reply actions  

I’m still not sure it was really a LATE hit. It was the helmet to helmet part of it that was the problem, not the timing.

I mean, he was a bit late, but not THAT late. It was more momentum than anything on that part I think.

by FriarBob on Nov 29, 2011 3:12 PM CST up reply actions  

very late.

Smith had scored. Harper made the decision not to have him showboat in their house or some such, even though we were in their house. And walked over and made the hit. It wasn’t about stopping the TD, for sure; It had all the maturity of throwing the checkerboard over because your opponent just said “King me! King me!”

And I’d support the suspension of a Saints player who did what Suh did.

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by CrazyforColston on Nov 29, 2011 5:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Um, sorry I was referring to LAST night not the atrociously stupid mistake against Carolina.

Last night the hit was a bit late but only by maybe half a second at most. Carolina was premeditated stupidity. Last night was nearly unavoidable and bad luck about the almost certainly unintentional helmet-to-helmet.

by FriarBob on Nov 29, 2011 8:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Right. I thought we were talking about two different plays

And you were correct in your response to the comment above. I missed the part where blackandgold4ever said SECOND time this season, regarding Harper and what was penalized as late hits.

Couldn’t agree with you more about last night.

So, my apologies for the rest.

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by CrazyforColston on Nov 29, 2011 11:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Agreed.

If he was suspended from the Saints for doing the same thing I would be pissed at him, not at the suspension itself.

He is a grown man, he needs to act like one instead of like a toddler with a temper tantrum. This game is for warriors not babies. People need to stop making excuses for these clowns.

by SarahT on Nov 29, 2011 2:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Plenty of us were critical of Harper for the late hit on Steve Smith.

Suh would deserve this even if, and especially if he played for us.

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by cajuncommando58 on Nov 30, 2011 11:17 AM CST up reply actions  

and if anyone is wondering about the religious commentary of the second option

I just want to be clear in that it is purposefully sampled from Suh’s own words from his post-game “explanation”

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by Hans Petersen on Nov 29, 2011 11:10 AM CST reply actions  

I vote for a third option... He should have gotten suspended longer.

Fat Albert got 5 weeks for stomping on a Cowgirls’ head.

Yes it was his head, but a stomp is a stomp. And Suh is a repeat offender (unnecessary roughness)… many of which are not even called.

by Dan Kelly on Nov 29, 2011 11:16 AM CST reply actions  

without a helmet on

and causing much more damage/injury

which brings up a GREAT point

should extent of injury come into play at all in the length of suspension?

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by Hans Petersen on Nov 29, 2011 11:20 AM CST up reply actions  

“should extent of injury come into play at all in the length of suspension?”

I don’t think so.

You’re trying to curb behavior and keep future (possibly worse) things form happening.

by Dan Kelly on Nov 29, 2011 11:21 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I guess the one factor might be that an action that was MUCH more violent and with much more force

may cause more injury than something else, so you’d want to account for the increased amount of force expended?

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by Hans Petersen on Nov 29, 2011 11:23 AM CST up reply actions  

Well,

Maybe you should ask Jake Delhomme that.

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Nov 29, 2011 11:25 AM CST up reply actions  

He was fined $15,000 for that one.

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Nov 29, 2011 11:31 AM CST up reply actions  

It deserved worse than wht he got. Let’s just count the things he did that are against the rules:

1. He grabbed the facemask of the QB – you can’t even hit his head.
2. He let go then grabbed his helmet with both hands – see #1.
3. After the QB was down (both knees were on the ground), he rips him down backwards – that would seem to fit the standard definition of unnecessary roughness.

Seriously, he whould have been suspended 2 games back then. Maybe he would’ve learned from that and wouldn’t have stomped on the guy last week. Or maybe he’d be in line for a 5 game suspension based upon the fact that he didn’t learn his lesson last time. Either way, I’d say that the league has actually been soft on Suh when you look at what he has done.

by BlackandGold4ever on Nov 29, 2011 11:39 AM CST up reply actions  

and...

as someone above mentioned, the stomp wasn’t the only egregious act he committed on that play.

by Dan Kelly on Nov 29, 2011 11:22 AM CST up reply actions  

Wasn’t Schwartz the Defensive Coordinator for the Titans when that happened? I see another pattern forming here…

by BlackandGold4ever on Nov 29, 2011 11:45 AM CST up reply actions  

Yes, he was.

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Nov 29, 2011 11:47 AM CST up reply actions  

I did not know that.

I thought it was an Asian gentleman (or at least an Asian sounding name). No?

by Dan Kelly on Nov 29, 2011 11:56 AM CST up reply actions  

Norm Chow, perhaps?

He was an OC for USC with Pete Carroll…

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by Hans Petersen on Nov 29, 2011 11:59 AM CST up reply actions  

Yep

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by Dan Kelly on Nov 29, 2011 12:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Did you see Schwartz's reaction?

When they show Suh complaining to him on the sideline after the ejection, Schwartz isn’t yelling at Suh at all. Which is absurd, since he essentially gifted the Packers 4 points on that play and hurt his team for the rest of the game. Where’s the accountability in that coaching staff?

by sammasaaron on Nov 29, 2011 1:15 PM CST up reply actions  

It should have been more. It was outside of the confines of a play, and that is what makes it so egregious. Just because he didn’t manage to hurt his target (meaning it was incompetence) doesn’t alleviate him of an act outside of the action of the play with intent to injure another player. In play, slamming a QB, or the like, I don’t know that suspension is the answer. Completely outside of a play, that should always get a suspension.

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by theprogrammerman on Nov 29, 2011 11:54 AM CST up reply actions  

I love him

but he needs to get that anger sh*t worked out. Learn how to contain it for the game. Be a stand up player and get it together. I am glad he is out for his own good and ours!

by SarahT on Nov 29, 2011 1:04 PM CST reply actions  

Before Dave gets here...

he already chastised someone for the curse word thing today. Just be sure to type it as “s—-” instead of only one letter removed.

Also, I agree, I want to like Suh, but if he honestly thought he didn’t do anything wrong on that play, the dude needs help.

by sammasaaron on Nov 29, 2011 1:12 PM CST up reply actions  

When did that change?

Been writing it that way since I got on here almost 2 years ago.

by SarahT on Nov 29, 2011 1:32 PM CST up reply actions  

And no one gave you any s__ about it…

by GlackAndBold on Nov 29, 2011 2:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Dunno

Haven’t been here long, but I saw a post from Dave about it this morning in one of the post-game threads. Wasn’t trying to be a jerk, sorry if it came across that way.

by sammasaaron on Nov 29, 2011 2:16 PM CST up reply actions  

I think it's always been that way

And I’m as guilty as the next guy for doing it your way. Things have been getting a little out of hand here and there and Dave is trying to get a handle on it, I think.

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by cajuncommando58 on Nov 30, 2011 11:25 AM CST up reply actions  

Update

As per Rotoworld:


Lions DT Ndamukong Suh will reportedly appeal his two-game suspension for violating the league’s on-field conduct policy.
Per ESPN’s Adam Schefter, Suh has been encouraged to appeal by the NFLPA as well as commissioner Roger Goodell. It’s quite possible that the suspension will be reduced to one game with the second half of last week’s game counting as time served.

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by Grumps on Nov 29, 2011 1:42 PM CST reply actions  

Reduced to one game? THAT’S BULL S***!!

And… encouraged to appeal by Roger Godell??? I highly doubt that.

by Dan Kelly on Nov 29, 2011 4:23 PM CST up reply actions  

didn’t see the articles/quotes below… still think it’s suspect. It makes literally no sense.

by Dan Kelly on Nov 29, 2011 4:25 PM CST up reply actions  

OK..so if Suh does appeal his suspension...

..would he be eligible to play against the Saints Sunday night? Or, would there be a quick resolution of his appeal so that his suspension would stand for Sunday and not be pushed back?

And yeah, given his rep and the fact that he overreacted after the play, he needed to be suspended. There’s aggressive, and then there’s just plain dirty and stupid. And the bad thing is, Suh’s got enough talent and skillz that he doesn’t need the rage.

by Anthony_JK on Nov 29, 2011 1:56 PM CST reply actions  

From what I have heard on NFL Network today

If he does appeal, the hearing would be this week so unless they amend the suspension to one gameand claim time served, he is not going to be playing this Sunday. Regardless of the intent of his actions, I hope he takes this as a bit of a message that he is “playing over the line” when it comes to what the NFL views as proper conduct. The man has skills, a shame for anyone with natural talent that doesn’t get the chance to use them.

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by Grumps on Nov 29, 2011 2:01 PM CST up reply actions  

This article says

that hearing would be “second Tuesday following the NFL’s receipt of his appeal”, and that he may still play.

http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf/2011/11/detroit_lions_defensive_tackle_10.html

by GlackAndBold on Nov 29, 2011 2:15 PM CST up reply actions  

seems like a solid source quoting NFL spokesperson and the rule book

and that the guys who are saying there would be an expedited hearing aren’t really naming sources, so I wonder how it’ll really play out…

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by Hans Petersen on Nov 29, 2011 2:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Rebuttal
At the recommendation of the NFL Players Association and Commissioner Roger Goodell, Suh will appeal the suspension, which will cost him $164,000, and NFL officials have indicated that an expedited hearing will be held this week. Suh will not practice with the team or go to the team facility until a decision is made on his appeal. He would miss the Lions games against the New Orleans Saints on Sunday and against Minnesota on Dec. 11.

Rest of the article here and another here

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by Grumps on Nov 29, 2011 3:04 PM CST up reply actions  

One more

Right from the NFL site about an expedited hearing

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by Grumps on Nov 29, 2011 3:07 PM CST up reply actions  

I’m convinced. Good deal!

by GlackAndBold on Nov 29, 2011 3:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Curious as to how he would appeal

Obviously he did something he cannot do, regardless of if he was just throwing a tantrum or actually meant to inflict pain, not to mention his blatant reoccurring offenses. Don’t they already make them take anger management classes?

by SarahT on Nov 29, 2011 3:17 PM CST up reply actions  

He can appeal all he wants

They got him dead to rights. It will not be overturned, no way, no how….

by Valmo on Nov 29, 2011 3:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Hahaaa

Oh those Taiwanese

Suh gets animated

Graphic, funny, but graphic.

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by Grumps on Nov 29, 2011 3:27 PM CST reply actions  

yeah be ready for cannibalism at the end of it

but it is pretty funny

not that what he did was funny, nor is cannibalism

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by Hans Petersen on Nov 29, 2011 3:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Hmmm, cannibalism

Oh, never mind. For a second there I though I was a fish.

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by cajuncommando58 on Nov 30, 2011 11:29 AM CST up reply actions  

I voted for he got what he deserved but

Let me be clear my opinion in the matter is not swayed at all by the fact that Detroit will be playing the Saints this week. I’m not afraid of Suh, the Saints are not afraid of Suh, and the final outcome of the game would be the same whether he played or not imo.

by Valmo on Nov 29, 2011 3:32 PM CST reply actions  

Or, if you know these a-holes are going to appeal (and you do), give them a bigger suspension, than let them appeal.

PS. I saw the whole incident a couple of times today…

HOLY S***! Two weeks in not enough.

I knew he was dirty, but that was just plain stupid and excessive.

by Dan Kelly on Nov 29, 2011 7:59 PM CST up reply actions  

I forgot in all the furor over the suspension

but there was even a Green Bay player ejected from the game earlier on a kickoff return for much less than what Suh did. It just magnifies the stupidity of his actions and reaction afterward considering he should have known this was a very strict officiating crew. He seems like a smart guy and a very talented player, but seems unable to play smart on the field.

by sammasaaron on Nov 30, 2011 8:53 AM CST up reply actions  

I would REALLY like to see Art do that. I wonder whether he can. If he can, he should.

by FriarBob on Nov 29, 2011 8:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Even though the stomp wasn't overly viscious, he could have injured a defenseless player well after the play was over.

and the NFL can’t make it a policy to say “well, it didn’t lead to aninjury so no penalty.” He did an act that was potentially harmful and illegal and I think a suspension was warranted. Plus, the guys in denial about what he does and “splains it away all the time.”

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by Philinwood on Nov 29, 2011 7:47 PM CST reply actions  

hey saints fans

obviously coming to town at a bad time in our teams season and we really shouldn’t be dealing with this as the saints will be enough to worry about aside from all the other crap. Have been a fan of the saints ever since Drew arrived. Cant explain why but I just lvoe the way he plays. I am sure the game this weekend will be a fun one to watch I am just hoping our boys decide to show up and play hard whistle to whistle.

Just to throw my two cents in on your chat here…..I do feel he should be suspended but I think it should be one game max. 2 games basically makes it a 2.5 game suspension and in the NFL that is a big big suspension. I think what hurt him the most was he insane excuse ridled reply after the game.

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by beachguy113 on Nov 29, 2011 9:28 PM CST reply actions  

I respectfully disagrre because I don't think the commissioner should take in account what Qtr the infraction happened in

i.e. if there was only 30 seconds left in the 4th qtr- then 2 games is ok in that instance? I just don’t think that makes sense. I think what makes sense is getting Suh’s attention in an big effective way because the previous attempts have done nada. He has had repeated issues and the league has been fairly patient but he has been in denial acting like he is a victim. They clearly want this to be the last incident- no more even “gray area” incidents in the future. I get the sense that because he has the ability to be well-spoken, he has talked his way out of many instances and now it is catching up to him. Just my take on it. Calling the commissioner? Asking and getting a face to face with the commissioner? To me that’s his way of saying “Don’t worry coach, I’ll handle this – I’ll talk to him- I can work my way out of this.”

As far as our defense, – the weak aspect of our defense is sacking the QB and QB pressure. We blitz a lot because we don’t get adequate pressure from our front 4 (and because our DC always has an aggressive game plan). Our front 4 is disciplined and doesn’t give opposing QBs TONS of time to throw, but on the other hand they give opposing QBs (if they are good QBs) AMPLE time to throw consistently. We also are about average or slightly below average at stopping the run but that is improving. That often becomes a non-factor to some degree because we aren’t totally porous and actually are effective vs the run sporadically and as I said we’re improving, but also because we have such a high-powered offense that teams throw and/or are forced to throw against us often.

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by Philinwood on Nov 30, 2011 8:11 AM CST up reply actions  

“whats the weak link in your defence and how do teams best attack your defence?”

This is my personal opinion, quietly silently shared by many others…

Throw it to whoever is being “covered” by #21 Patrick Robinson. He will be wide open on 80% of plays… not just pass plays, but all plays.

I’ve seen several times, when it was a run play with a WR acting as a decoy to lure the CB away from the play… If the QB had known he was going to be as wide open as he was he would have pulled the ball back from the RB and thrown it to the WR for a 50+ yard TD.

Just be sure that, when Robinson is out of position your QB doesn’t throw a ‘wild pitch’ (aka 7 yards from where the WR is) because that’s where Robinson will be, and he’s proven that he can catch the ball in these situations.

by Dan Kelly on Nov 30, 2011 11:30 AM CST up reply actions  

Suh should immediately apologized during the post gm. pc

but instead he says " All you people watching didn’t see what you thought you saw ". In other words your all “Blind and Stupid”.

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by metryman on Nov 29, 2011 10:19 PM CST reply actions  

Update on Suh
ESPN’s Adam Schefter reports that Lions DT Ndamukong Suh’s suspension appeal will be heard on Thursday.
The hearing will take place at 3PM ET, and Art Shell will be the appeals officer. Suh is trying to get his two-game suspension reduced to one week. Regardless, he is not going to be available for Sunday’s game against New Orleans.

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by Grumps on Nov 30, 2011 4:12 PM CST reply actions  

at least the judge won't be THIS GUY

who might decide to throw a rubber chicken at him and let him off with “time served!”

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by Hans Petersen on Nov 30, 2011 8:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Inside the NFL...

I watched Inside the NFL (Shotime) from this past weekend.

OMG!

They show Suh on the sidelines talking to a D-line coach or DC… talking about a late jab he gave Aaron Rogers and how “I didn’t want to shove him down because that’s to obvious, so I gave him one of these. They won’t call stuff like that.”

Art Shell needs to see that and DENY his appeal.

Then, the next time it happens (because there will be a next time), it need to be 5 weeks.

by Dan Kelly on Dec 1, 2011 8:22 AM CST reply actions  

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