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Saints Win 22-17 in Close Game with Titans

Well it wouldn't be a Saints game if there wasn't heart-stopping, pulse-pounding action until the very last second now would it? But despite putting up better numbers in many statistical categories, New Orleans was lucky to escape Tennessee with a 22 - 17 win in a surprisingly low scoring, penalty ridden affair that could have easily gone the other way.

On offense the Saints struggled to find the end zone, surviving on John Kasay field goals until the fourth quarter, when Marques Colston caught two touchdown passes to put the Saints ahead. Stupid penalties would negate several of their big plays in the first half like a Darren Sproles punt return touchdown. This game would have been completely different otherwise.

Once again the Saints defense did just enough to give the team the win while making sure to keep fans on the verge of complete heart failure. They did a great job of shutting down Chris Johnson and limiting him to just 23 yards on 11 carries, but, as usual, gave up way more big plays than I'm particularly comfortable with, including a 40-yard pass to Nate Washington with 0:27 seconds left on the clock, putting the Titans in scoring range and giving them a chance to win the game. But the defense came up with two big plays to end the game and preserve the win.

Most importantly, however, is the great job the Saints are doing protecting the football. This is their third consecutive game without a turnover and that should be noted.

More on the game from me tomorrow. For now, just enjoy the win. The Saints are now 10-3, marking the first time in team history they have recorded at least 10 wins in three consecutive seasons. They could have locked up the division title if the Panthers had come up with a win against the Falcons today but Olindo Mare missed a game-winning field goal and still continues to haunt Saints fans years after he's left the team.

Click the picture for more from today's action. Make the jump for full stats from the game and check out who played well.

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Team Stats

NO TEN
First Downs 24 17
Total Yards 437 373
Passing Yards 323 314
Rushing Yards 114 59
Penalties (Yds) 11(95) 8(54)
Turnovers 0 0
Punts (AVG) 5(43) 5(38)
Time of Pos. 37:33 22:27

Top Performers

NEW ORLEANS SAINTS
Passing CP/AT YDS TD INT
D. Brees 36/47 337 2 0
Rushing CAR YDS TD LG
C. Ivory 13 53 0 25
D. Sproles 5 33 0 14
Receiving REC YDS TD LG
M. Colston 7 105 2 35T
D. Sproles 7 58 0 20
P. Thomas 6 35 0 23
TENNESSEE TITANS
Passing CP/AT YDS TD INT
J. Locker 13/29 282 1 0
Rushing CAR YDS TD LG
J. Locker 6 36 1 17
C. Johnson 11 23 0 9
Receiving REC YDS TD LG
N. Washington 6 130 1 40T
C. Johnson 5 43 0 14
L. Hawkins 3 49 0 25
Poll
Who was the Saints player of the game?
Drew Brees
60 votes
Marques Colston
231 votes
Darren Sproles
12 votes
Malcolm Jenkins
36 votes
John Kasay
14 votes
Jo-Lonn Dunbar
43 votes

396 votes | Poll has closed

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I ripped my hair out watching this game

Horrible red zone, too many bonehead penalties, too many 3rd and longs. I don’t understand why on 3rd and long you would throw a 4 or 5 yard pass way short of the markers. And giving up that long pass at the end that could have been a TD was totally inexcusable.

Indeed it was a very ugly game. The offense looked like 2010 today We were very lucky to walk away at the end with the win. Sean Payton looked mad the whole game.

Sloppy sloppy game. Thank God we got the win. The Vikings game next week won’t be a slouch. Almost every game they’ve been down to the wire.

We got the win, that’s what matters today

I spent 8 years trying to reach him...and then another 7 trying to keep him locked up because I realized what was living behind that boy's eyes was purely and simply...Evil.

Dr. Sam Loomis Aka (Donald Pleasence)

by Jricky70 on Dec 11, 2011 4:16 PM CST reply actions  

The 5 yard passes on 3rd and 10+ baffled me as well

But honestly, if it weren’t for the idiot refs this game would have been over in the first half.

by Valmo on Dec 11, 2011 4:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Or at least we would have had another 11 extra points. Even if that hadn’t been enough to win the game, at least we wouldn’t have crap to complain about.

by FriarBob on Dec 11, 2011 6:32 PM CST up reply actions  

seriously, and why the heck was colston out of that 4th down drive on 3rd down…baffled x2

Whats for dinner, dad?
Wookie Steak.
Is that good?
It's a little chewy.

by WestBank on Dec 11, 2011 5:56 PM CST up reply actions  

I haven't cursed that much in such a short timeframe

Since the Vikings playoff game. They need to give the entire officiating crew pinks slips. ALL OF THEM, I never want to see them on the field ever again. They are a disgrace to the sport and an embarrassment to the league.

by Valmo on Dec 11, 2011 4:19 PM CST reply actions  

And if it wasn't for the total collapse on the part of Carolina...

we’d be NFC South Champs. Now we still need a win AND a Falcons loss to clinch prior to our Monday Night game. I’d really like to have the division wrapped up before that.

by RobertM320 on Dec 11, 2011 4:20 PM CST reply actions  

Go for the bye!

with the niners losing today, they still have pittsburgh and play at qwest field (we all know what qwest field can do…) they could potentially end the season 12-4/11-5 . the niners havent had a playoff game in eons, its gonna be a CRAZY atmosphere for the saints to play in.

by forrestgump52 on Dec 11, 2011 7:50 PM CST up reply actions  

That game should have been a 21 point win.

I’m not sure if the officiating crew was just over-zealous with their flag throwing or if both teams were really playing that sloppy? I watched the game in a bar with no sound so I didn’t hear any commentary. I know they robbed Graham.

by Drew-Dat on Dec 11, 2011 4:20 PM CST reply actions  

I like when our fullback got called for holding

and he’s just standing there dumbfounded with a ‘What the hell?’ look on his face. Hint : It wasn’t a hold.

by Valmo on Dec 11, 2011 4:24 PM CST up reply actions  

He had a OFF PI too, rare call on a FB.

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I understand ....nothing.-Michael Scott
The Future is Unwritten.-Joe Strummer
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win."-Mahatma Gandhi

by metryman on Dec 11, 2011 4:29 PM CST up reply actions  

the 'no touchdown' call that was reviewed and still gotten wrong was horrible bulls***

not to mention, early in the firest quarter the Titans defender throws Drew to the ground looooooong after the play was over = no call. WTF!?

by Dan Kelly on Dec 11, 2011 5:12 PM CST up reply actions  

There was smoke coming off the top of my head the entire game

and yes, obviously I’m partial to the Saints, but even after watching all the replays of bad calls and no-calls the majority of it still looked like bad officiating.

by Valmo on Dec 11, 2011 5:13 PM CST up reply actions  

the holding on bushrod & another on the FB..

as well as the false start on brees hard count were the worse 3.. imo..
destroyed the rhythm of the offense..
if you noticed.. they quit nit-picky calling it on the 2nd half.. (got a call from their head honcho..?) most of the penalties were on the 1st half.. i guess the teams went over the rules at half-time & quit messing up every play.. (ha ha)
this crew really ruined the flow of the game.. the NFL has to see that..
i was not 100% sure locker got the ball over the pylon either.. & thought they owed us a call for the jimmy TD.. but no luck..

by the 9th plague on Dec 11, 2011 10:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Wow…he moved around the players in the middle of calling the penalty so that he’d be on camera…just wow…

by BlackandGold4ever on Dec 12, 2011 6:41 AM CST up reply actions  

No, it technically wasn't

2 feet in, don’t care what part of the foot touches. It could be the side of one foot and the heel of another and it’s still 2 feet in. Technically, it’s a touchdown any way you want to slice it.

by Valmo on Dec 12, 2011 4:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Technically they got him for the way his head moved when he said “hut”.

Technically is full of crap.

by FriarBob on Dec 11, 2011 6:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Sounds like a game I'm glad I missed

I saw about the first 10 minutes and was pretty glad to be interrupted from the game.

Whodat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by nofear on Dec 11, 2011 7:58 PM CST up reply actions  

“interrupted” huh? ;-)

It was a freaking nail-biter, and I was cursing up a storm.

by Dan Kelly on Dec 11, 2011 10:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Flag happy.

Flag happy was the view from my living room. Sean wouldn’t take his chances on that last challenge because he would have been left with none, but isn’t it weird that we gave up one to “think” about whether to challenge and it would have cost us both if he’d challenged and lost?

Felt one sided to me, but I don’t know anymore whether I’m just too much of a fan of my team sometimes. Generally, I think officiating hasn’t been bad all year. But, I’m not sure saying that is new either.

"I am a Saints player. Look, sir" Patrick Robinson

by CrazyforColston on Dec 11, 2011 4:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Agreed

Even though Henderson looked like he had control of the ball when the tip touched the turf, I was hoping Payton wouldn’t challenge it. There’s no way he would have won that challenge against this crew. No. Way. I think he sensed that too.

"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!

by David "Satch" Kelly on Dec 11, 2011 4:30 PM CST up reply actions  

yep, I wanted a challenge but was happy he didn't.

My husband kept shouting, “Noooo!” in agreement with you. As if any deliberation on our part was going to solve the matter. You, Sean and my husband were right. Didn’t it look like Brees wanted the challenge? I thought he did the “throw the flag” gesture standing right by him. Sean had to act like Daddy and tell his son no candy this trip.

"I am a Saints player. Look, sir" Patrick Robinson

by CrazyforColston on Dec 11, 2011 4:35 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah, is was clearly a catch… and we clearly would have lost the challenge. good call SP.

by Dan Kelly on Dec 11, 2011 5:12 PM CST up reply actions  

First I was like, no don't challenge it - the refs are trained gorillas

then after we failed to convert on 3rd, I thought ‘Hmm, maybe we should have challenged it..’. Did we have that timeout left at the end of the game or did we use it – I can’t recall because I was screaming at the TV threatening fire and brimstone to everyone I saw.

by Valmo on Dec 11, 2011 5:16 PM CST up reply actions  

actually… on the henderson catch, we called a timeout instead of challenge… we could have challenged after the TO, but…

i think we would have lost it.

by Dan Kelly on Dec 11, 2011 5:24 PM CST up reply actions  

And Harper again.

His fourth or fifth roughing the passer penalty this year, when they are deemed ticky tacky by most people watching, including the booth guys who seem to salivate anything more interesting than a Saints offensive juggernaut.

"I am a Saints player. Look, sir" Patrick Robinson

by CrazyforColston on Dec 11, 2011 4:32 PM CST up reply actions  

and the roughing call on will smith… also BS… his helmet hit his chest.

by Dan Kelly on Dec 11, 2011 5:13 PM CST up reply actions  

But, we stopped CJ23!

I know it’s hard to be happy when we focus on the key to their offense, but we did negate him. We did the same thing to another Johnson last week against Detroit. That sure beats any game where we’d all surely say: But we knew so and so was going to burn us and he did!

We didn’t game plan Locker running on us for sure. And Washington?

And just about the time the Saints defense had us in full cardiac arrest they show up truly big when it might well have all ended about as good as the penalty riddled first half, if they hadn’t.

Terrible pass by Drew, to who was it Ivory? Last pass before we said to the Titans, “Would you like another chance?”

Preacher’s son was close, but I believe out. The Moore non TD was on Moore.

"I am a Saints player. Look, sir" Patrick Robinson

by CrazyforColston on Dec 11, 2011 4:21 PM CST reply actions  

Can't pick a winner in the poll.

Maybe Colston since he was responsible for 14 points? And not because I’m crazyfor…….

"I am a Saints player. Look, sir" Patrick Robinson

by CrazyforColston on Dec 11, 2011 4:29 PM CST reply actions  

That Sproles PR for TD was gorgeous

That is..until the Refs ruined it for us

I spent 8 years trying to reach him...and then another 7 trying to keep him locked up because I realized what was living behind that boy's eyes was purely and simply...Evil.

Dr. Sam Loomis Aka (Donald Pleasence)

by Jricky70 on Dec 11, 2011 4:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Martez Wilson did hold on that play, right at the line of scrimmage, before Sproles even caught the ball

I thought that holds called on returns were assessed from the end of the runback or from the spot of the foul, yet we ended up with the ball 10 yards back from where Sproles caught the ball…

PLAY NOW
TUSKAMANIA!!!!

by Hans Petersen on Dec 11, 2011 9:01 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah… the way the ref announced it, i though we’d get it first and goal from the ten.. but…

He said “10 yards form the end of the run”…

I think it’s “ten yards from the spot of the foul”

by Dan Kelly on Dec 11, 2011 10:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah it’s supposed to be 10 yards from the spot of the foul. Even if the hold was legit (and I think the Titan play held more than Wilson did) the ball should have been 10 yards back from the original line of scrimmage.

by FriarBob on Dec 11, 2011 11:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Half the distance to the goal

from the spot of the foul. Not 10 yards.

by Valmo on Dec 12, 2011 4:22 PM CST up reply actions  

depends on where the foul happened…

it’s 10 yards (from the spot of the foul) or half the distance, whichever is shorter.

If it happens on the 12 yard line, they get moved back 6 yards.

If it happens on the 50, they get moved back 10 yards.

by Dan Kelly on Dec 12, 2011 4:53 PM CST up reply actions  

The foul occurred in the endzone. Thus the “from the spot” doesn’t apply, it goes from the original line of scrimmage, which was approximately the 5. Thus I said the 2-yard line because it would be either there, the 2.5, or the 3. Close enough.

by FriarBob on Dec 12, 2011 6:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Would have voted for Brees

But that pass at the end there was so close to being a pick-six my jaw dropped 2 feet like a cartoon character. Even Payton had a look on his face like ’You’ve gotta be &*&^% kidding me!’.

by Valmo on Dec 11, 2011 5:24 PM CST up reply actions  

that was… aweful.

that dud came out of NOWHERE… go thing he was big with brick hands.

by Dan Kelly on Dec 11, 2011 5:25 PM CST up reply actions  

horrible play

we should have just ran it, or had a better pass play instead of a pass to the sidelines. its scary to think that if the titans didn’t run it with a minute left and waste about 25 seconds they could have had a couple more chances at the endzone

by forrestgump52 on Dec 11, 2011 7:55 PM CST up reply actions  

They didn't think they could win with such low TOP.

So they were trying to accumulate a little more.

by Dan Kelly on Dec 11, 2011 10:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Ivory looked pretty good today

LOVING MOORE, GRAHAM AND THE COOL BREES!

by N_O_1saintfan on Dec 11, 2011 4:52 PM CST reply actions  

Off the subject

How about a congrats to the Texans for securing a playoff spot for the first time in history

I spent 8 years trying to reach him...and then another 7 trying to keep him locked up because I realized what was living behind that boy's eyes was purely and simply...Evil.

Dr. Sam Loomis Aka (Donald Pleasence)

by Jricky70 on Dec 11, 2011 5:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Today's win was HUGE!

I spent 8 years trying to reach him...and then another 7 trying to keep him locked up because I realized what was living behind that boy's eyes was purely and simply...Evil.

Dr. Sam Loomis Aka (Donald Pleasence)

by Jricky70 on Dec 11, 2011 5:09 PM CST up reply actions  

I even predicted this to be a low scoring ugly nailbiter 23-20 in the beginning of the season. Pretty darn of what I expected

I spent 8 years trying to reach him...and then another 7 trying to keep him locked up because I realized what was living behind that boy's eyes was purely and simply...Evil.

Dr. Sam Loomis Aka (Donald Pleasence)

by Jricky70 on Dec 11, 2011 5:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Uh, yeah... not sure if you guys heard about this yet..

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7342425/two-tennessee-titans-accuse-new-orleans-saints-sideline-blowing-whistle

I don’t really know what the make of this; But I thought I’d give you guys some forewarning.. if it’s true somebody was doing this, your Saints could pay for it.

[disclaimer: this poster has no idea what the hell he's talking about.]

The future is bright for this Titans squad.

The Official MCM Idiot

by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 11, 2011 5:36 PM CST reply actions  

My only thought would be why didn't these horrible refs also hear it and warn the sideline?
Scott said Dean McCondichie, who produces the team’s television show, “Titans All Access,” has evidence of the whistle-blowing.

“Dean’s got it on tape,” Scott said. “Somebody was blowing a whistle on the sideline. There is audio of it, so we’ll let it go from there. The second to last drive I think.”

I’ll need to see that tape (tape? really? Who uses tape anymore?) before believing this. Maybe it was someone in the stands right behind the Saints’ bench? Let’s see the proof.

Here’s something else from that link:

Titans receiver Nate Washington also took exception to the play of New Orleans safety Roman Harper, who was called for a facemask on a tackle of Damian Williams that kept Williams out of the end zone after a 54-yard catch-and-run.

“Honestly, he’s a dirty player,” Washington said. "We watched film on him, he’s dirty. And I don’t appreciate it, I’m going to step out in public and say it: He’s dirty.

“That was dirty what he did, it’s unfortunate that he grabbed the facemask — at the same time you don’t walk over a guy and nudge him with your knee. You don’t do that. That’s dirty. And honestly, that’s a dirty player, flat out. This is not just one game. He’s been doing it all season. And I’m tired of it. I hope the league did something about it.”

That’s some accusation, Nate. I haven’t heard anyone else accuse Harper of being dirty.

Thanks for the link. I didn’t see that before.

"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!

by David "Satch" Kelly on Dec 11, 2011 5:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Obviously it was a rough facemask

But I think even Nate Washington should realize he did the only thing he could to help his team stop a score

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by Alex Swift on Dec 11, 2011 6:31 PM CST up reply actions  

This is how I read Washington's quote

WHHHAAAAAAAAAAAA WHHHAAAAAAAAA WWWHHHAAAA

by SarahT on Dec 11, 2011 11:30 PM CST up reply actions  

sounds like some BS to me and I seriously doubt that any saints personal, player or staff, would have anything to do with that. Most likely a fan behind the saints bench, if not digitally rereated on the ‘tape’. Take the loss like a team should. As far as them commenting on Harper, when I rewatched that play, the facemask on washington, yeah he gets the facemask but when they come together there is a lot of body movement. I imagine that it was accidental and was just trying to make the play while out of position. The sack by harper was to hasselbecks chin, i’ll give them that but anyone could have made the play and doesn’t mean they’re dirty.

The game was penalty filled and the saints need to clean that up for sure. The offense was struggling as well….On that final 4th quarter drive, why was Colston out and the offense in max protect with only two out routes?? On a 3rd and 5?

Whats for dinner, dad?
Wookie Steak.
Is that good?
It's a little chewy.

by WestBank on Dec 11, 2011 5:52 PM CST up reply actions  

What's going to happen?

Are we going to meet in the Super bowl or something?

OK, obviously, I’m being snarky, of course I care if there was cheating. But, no one pushing this story cares whether or not they can prove anything and if that just raises doubt to the proper level then all’s good? Where are they going to find this supposed whistle blower. A whistle blower blows whistle about a whistle being blown…..has evidence….of a whistle being blown….that’s at least ironic enough for a chuckle, no?

If it’s provable, and I’ll say not one of these vague, throw your hands up ‘cause no one can tell, but proof that something happened and the Saints were behind it. I really wouldn’t like that and would happily speak against it and hope anybody gets what they deserve but this reads like so much silliness.

Sour meet grapes.

"I am a Saints player. Look, sir" Patrick Robinson

by CrazyforColston on Dec 11, 2011 7:13 PM CST up reply actions  

There was plenty of blowing going on for all involved...

…don’t know how anyone could blame a couple of phantom whistles.

-He filled up the whole silo in just two days?
-Well, I helped.

by Doc Boudin on Dec 11, 2011 10:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Mmmkay

So all the Saints players knew about it before hand and the whistle blower made sure to blow it only loud enough for the Titans players to hear but not for the refs to hear. Soungs totally legit.

by SarahT on Dec 11, 2011 11:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Clearly a conspiracy...

Payton’s in it with the aliens.

-He filled up the whole silo in just two days?
-Well, I helped.

by Doc Boudin on Dec 11, 2011 11:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Hans Game Predictions were Scarrrrrry real !!!!

Right down to wrenching feeling watching the clock with face palms & meds close on hand.

You know Hartman, goodie-two-shoes is fidgeting around like a one-legged cat trying to bury s#!t on a frozen pond, until old Seth fixes him a couple of pink poontang specials. You know, that crazy drink that I fix for stewardesses? Two shots out of that and Hartman is shot to s#!t, freaked out. I mean, I never saw a guy having so much fun and crying at the same time!

by Deep Threat on Dec 11, 2011 5:51 PM CST reply actions  

Good news!

The Cards are leading against the 49ers with about 7 minutes remaining in the game. We need the 9ers to lose at least two more so we can win out and snatch that 2nd seed from them.

"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!

by David "Satch" Kelly on Dec 11, 2011 5:56 PM CST reply actions  

Especially since it seems the NFL stacked the schedule against us....

Last week we played the Lions on Sunday on six days rest, while they hadn’t played since Thanksgiving Day (10 days).

We play the Falcons on Monday night Dec 26th, but they get 3 extra days to prepare, because they play Jacksonville this Thursday.

by RobertM320 on Dec 11, 2011 6:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Have to disagree on scheduling..........

Played Green Bay early, when weather was nice. Plus the combo of playing the NFC central and AFC southern, Saint’s had the least frequent flyer miles. Only one game outdoors the 2nd half of the season. Houston and Chicago at home.

by Ship on Dec 12, 2011 5:15 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm watching that one too.

As much as I hate too, I’d cheer my head off for the Steelers to beat the 49ers

"I want to hand this trophy to the MVP of the Super Bowl -- and the MVP of the entire league.''
-- Saints coach Sean Payton, handing the Vince Lombardi Trophy to Drew Brees after Super Bowl 44.

by VAsaintsfan on Dec 11, 2011 6:05 PM CST up reply actions  

I hate the Steelers second most of any team in the NFL. (Foulclowns are first.)

And despite that, I will grit my teeth and hate every second of it… and I’ll pull for the Stoolers anyway. If they win it helps the Saints. That makes it worth it. Barely.

by FriarBob on Dec 11, 2011 6:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Broncos tie it up

You think you know, and you don't know, and you never, ever, will.-Jim Mora Sr.
I understand ....nothing.-Michael Scott
The Future is Unwritten.-Joe Strummer
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win."-Mahatma Gandhi

by metryman on Dec 11, 2011 6:02 PM CST reply actions  

If Bears lose, we clinch at least a wild card playoff spot

But, we want a lot more than that.

"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!

by David "Satch" Kelly on Dec 11, 2011 6:13 PM CST up reply actions  

I've been pulling for Den all day, but was thinking

We probably should want the Bears to win. They do have the tiebreaker vs the Falcons if it comes down to that for a Wild Card spot. I’d much rather see the Bears in the playoffs than the Falcons.

by RobertM320 on Dec 11, 2011 6:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Bears lose!

Put a little “clinched playoff spot” sign next to the Saints.

"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!

by David "Satch" Kelly on Dec 11, 2011 6:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Hang On Cards!

You think you know, and you don't know, and you never, ever, will.-Jim Mora Sr.
I understand ....nothing.-Michael Scott
The Future is Unwritten.-Joe Strummer
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win."-Mahatma Gandhi

by metryman on Dec 11, 2011 6:06 PM CST reply actions  

Cards take over on downs, 1:57 left, finish it

You think you know, and you don't know, and you never, ever, will.-Jim Mora Sr.
I understand ....nothing.-Michael Scott
The Future is Unwritten.-Joe Strummer
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win."-Mahatma Gandhi

by metryman on Dec 11, 2011 6:09 PM CST up reply actions  

turnover on downs!

Cards get the ball back with under 2 minutes left, no timeouts for San Fran!

"I want to hand this trophy to the MVP of the Super Bowl -- and the MVP of the entire league.''
-- Saints coach Sean Payton, handing the Vince Lombardi Trophy to Drew Brees after Super Bowl 44.

by VAsaintsfan on Dec 11, 2011 6:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Good news! Good news!

"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!

by David "Satch" Kelly on Dec 11, 2011 6:11 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

chee, chee chee

You think you know, and you don't know, and you never, ever, will.-Jim Mora Sr.
I understand ....nothing.-Michael Scott
The Future is Unwritten.-Joe Strummer
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win."-Mahatma Gandhi

by metryman on Dec 11, 2011 6:14 PM CST up reply actions  

c'mon, Flash!!!

remember that dog he had?

PLAY NOW
TUSKAMANIA!!!!

by Hans Petersen on Dec 11, 2011 9:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Aptly named, hush puppy I think

You think you know, and you don't know, and you never, ever, will.-Jim Mora Sr.
I understand ....nothing.-Michael Scott
The Future is Unwritten.-Joe Strummer
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win."-Mahatma Gandhi

by metryman on Dec 11, 2011 10:07 PM CST up reply actions  

I thought Jenkins played lights out

Making tackles everywhere
I cant remember him having 1 bad play or missing 1 tackle not like the rest of our DB’s
And the Dline played great lots of pressure and batted balls

by mississippisaintsfan on Dec 11, 2011 6:12 PM CST reply actions  

At least a wild card, yes

"I want to hand this trophy to the MVP of the Super Bowl -- and the MVP of the entire league.''
-- Saints coach Sean Payton, handing the Vince Lombardi Trophy to Drew Brees after Super Bowl 44.

by VAsaintsfan on Dec 11, 2011 6:19 PM CST up reply actions  

The two current wild card teams would be Det and Atl, who are both 8-5

The Bears are now 7-6 and the Giants even with a win, would be 7-6. The best either could finish is 10-6, and we can do no worse than 10-6, and we hold the head to head tiebreaker over both.

by RobertM320 on Dec 11, 2011 6:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Denver pulled it out with a FG

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by N_O_1saintfan on Dec 11, 2011 6:20 PM CST reply actions  

Broncos win 13-10...We're IN!

Prater with a 59 yd FG at the end of reg and a 51 yd in OT

by RobertM320 on Dec 11, 2011 6:21 PM CST reply actions  

And the legend that is Tim Tebow continues....

How can a guy play so horrible for 56 minutes and put ZERO points on the board, and then lead his team to two scoring drives in the last 2:15, and another in OT?

Granted, two of those “scoring” drives required 50+ yard FGs from Matt Prater

by RobertM320 on Dec 11, 2011 6:27 PM CST up reply actions  

We're in!!

Whodat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by nofear on Dec 11, 2011 6:22 PM CST reply actions  

So, what does it take to lock the division?

Sorry, I’ve been out for awhile…

Whodat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by nofear on Dec 11, 2011 6:29 PM CST reply actions  

Just keep winning and we have it locked.

All we really need is one more Falcons loss.

"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!

by David "Satch" Kelly on Dec 11, 2011 6:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Or one win by our boys

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by Alex Swift on Dec 11, 2011 6:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Technically, no. If we win next week we make it extremely hard for the Falcons. But we either need them to lose one more, or for us to win two more.

If the Fouclowns win out they will make up one of the two games they are behind on us because of beating us on the 26th. If we were to lose another game somewhere (presumably Carolina since we’re assuming winning next week) then that would leave us at 11-5 and them at 11-5. That would then invoke the tiebreaker rules and it would be a huge mess.

But if we beat Minny and Carolina that would be enough to do it.

Or if Jax is kind enough to play really well on Thursday, that would also help…

by FriarBob on Dec 11, 2011 6:48 PM CST up reply actions  

" if we beat Minny and Carolina that would be enough to do it."

I REALLY ****ING HOPE IT DOESN’T WORK OUT THAT WAY… I’m going to the ATL MNF game with 3 friends.

by Dan Kelly on Dec 11, 2011 10:09 PM CST up reply actions  

I predicted (a couple weeks ago) that we’d be #2 seed… I didn’t know who besides Pitt would beat them, but I predicted it… there are images to prove it.

Of course, it looks like the Girls might be going down – thankfully… So swap out the Girls for the Giants.

by Dan Kelly on Dec 11, 2011 10:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh I very much hope not as well. Hell I’m still hoping the Foulclowns manage to choke away their shot at the playoffs, which pretty much means they have to lose out at this point. (Yeah, not happening. But I can still hope, right?)

And yeah us beating them on the MNF game would also be enough to clinch the division. And plus I just want to get a chance to watch my team beat the crap out of a team I despise. Or even just beat them. That would be good enough I guess.

by FriarBob on Dec 11, 2011 11:49 PM CST up reply actions  

False.

We win and we have the division. We hold tiebreakers over the Falcons.

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by Alex Swift on Dec 12, 2011 9:36 AM CST up reply actions  

We hold ONE tiebreaker over the Foulclowns. That’s the single-game head-to-head that we currently possess.

We also have the “common opponents” lead in that we beat the bears whom they lost to. We also beat the Texans whom they lost to.

HOWEVER, and this is extremely critical, the “common opponents” tiebreaker isn’t the first in line. Here are the tiebreakers:

1. Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games between the clubs).
2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.

OK let’s say we win only one more game and they win out. This was the original question that I was responding too, that we could win next week and be done with it. That would have us beating Minny but then losing two in a row to end the season. This leaves us at 11-5 and them at 11-5. The head-to-head no longer applies, we both have one game head-to-head. (We could also lose to Minny and beat Carolina and end up in similar situation, but I’ll run that one later.)

They lost once to Tampa and so did we. They’ve also lost to us once. By them winning out they will have a 4-2 record in the division. But by losing the Carolina in week 17 and them in week 16, we will have a 3-3 record in the division. Thus we lose the division if we only beat Minnesota.

Now let’s say we lose to Minny and we beat Carolina in week 17. Now we both have a 4-2 record in the division. They beat Minny, however, and we lost to them. But the two other common games where we won and they lost would give us the division. So in this case, the tiebreakers are in our favor.

And finally, let’s say that we win the Atlanta game and lose to Minny and Carolina. This would give us a 11-5 record but they would have a 10-6 and we would get the division that way.

by FriarBob on Dec 12, 2011 1:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Obviously winning out would do it.

The minimum to get the division would be one more win for us and one more loss for Atlanta. That does not have to be head-to-head, by the way. If Atlanta would be kind enough to lose to Jax (yeah, OK, not bloody likely, but then I didn’t really think SF would lose today either, despite hoping for it with a passion) and we beat Minny that would do it.

Alternately, two more wins for the Saints would also do it. If we beat Minny and Carolina, that would be enough, even if Atlanta wins all three of their remaining games. Beating us on that MNF game would only give them one game of make-up. Of course, it would also make me puke my guts up as well. But it still wouldn’t matter.

I’m still in the “lets just win out” mode. And if SF would be kind enough to lose one more game out of their next three and we do manage to win out, #2 seed here we come!

by FriarBob on Dec 11, 2011 6:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Surprising? Well, not sure.

On one hand, Jax does have a very good defense. On the other hand, they have a putrid offense except for MJD. On the flip side, Atlanta has a good offense when the running game is working and Matt gets protection from his OL and time to throw. But they can be shut down. And as for the Atlanta defense, I simply have no clue what to say. One week they shut down CJ2K then Arian Foster treats them like his chew toy. Then the next they absolutely collapse for one half against Cam and the next half they shut him down. It’s extremely hard to make any predictions on their D.

Add it all up, and I guess it wouldn’t be THAT surprising. But I’m also not about to hold my breath.

by FriarBob on Dec 12, 2011 9:14 AM CST up reply actions  

right...

I’ve never been much for rooting for a team to lose to help the Saints get their way (unless they are losing to the Saints). Just saying, though, jax put a whomping on the Bucs. I don’t think they are quite as bad as they look.

Whodat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by nofear on Dec 12, 2011 11:18 AM CST up reply actions  

i tend to root for whomever can help the Saints win the Super Bowl… which means rooting against opponents with higher seeding that we could overtake, or give us favorable matchups in the first round of the playoffs.

by Dan Kelly on Dec 12, 2011 12:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Not facing Atlanta in the playoffs would be quite advantageous in my book. Even if it is in the Dome, I want nothing to do with them.

If they lose to Jax and us, they are 9-7 (unless you want to postulate that Tampa actually shows up in week 17… hah!) and have a good chance of missing the playoffs.

by FriarBob on Dec 12, 2011 1:47 PM CST up reply actions  

of course, they could be 9-7 and still make the playoffs… could still get the 5 seed, even.

by Dan Kelly on Dec 12, 2011 2:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Could, yes.

But their odds of missing go up dramatically. Their odds of missing at 10-6 are about 10%.

by FriarBob on Dec 12, 2011 6:51 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah but…

let’s assume we beat them on MNF… they’d have to lose to Jax or TB – both at home.

Which one’s gonna do it?

by Dan Kelly on Dec 12, 2011 7:27 PM CST up reply actions  

and...

we’d need some help from CHICAGO… to win two our of three, that includes GB, SEA, and MIN… it could happen, but…

Who else… Arizona winning three in a row? Seattle winning foud in a row (counting tonight)?

AND… DET has to win two more too.

-

If all of the wildcard teams end up at 9-7, ATL is the top wild card team.

by Dan Kelly on Dec 12, 2011 7:32 PM CST up reply actions  

self-audit:

“If all of the wildcard teams end up at 9-7, ATL is the top wild card team.”

That’s not correct…. CHI could be tops, depending on who the beat.

by Dan Kelly on Dec 12, 2011 7:56 PM CST up reply actions  

NFC Playoff Picture:

1. GB
2 or 3. NOLA
3 or 2. SF
4. NYG or DAL – (One of them wins the division; the other is extremely likely out.)

The Wild Card is up for grabs between…

ATL – 8-5 (plays: JAX, NOLA, & TB) (has the tiebreaker over DET)
DET – 8-5 (plays: OAK, SD, & GB)

CHI – 7-6 (plays: SEA, GB, & MIN)

SEA – 6-7* (plays: CHI, SF, & AZ)
AZ – 6-7 (plays: CLE, CIN, & SEA)

*assuming they win tonight

by Dan Kelly on Dec 12, 2011 8:27 PM CST up reply actions  

I like that scenario

The only thing better would be

us win, win,win (which I expect)
Falcons lose, lose, lose (I’m just hoping)

Whodat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by nofear on Dec 12, 2011 1:35 AM CST up reply actions  

San Fran lost!

We still need more help. But we have a MUCH more realistic shot at the #2 seed now than we did 24 hours ago. If we win out AND SF loses one more game, we get it.

by FriarBob on Dec 11, 2011 6:43 PM CST reply actions  

Nope.

San Fran has two conference losses right now (Dallas and Arizona) and three losses total. We have three conference losses right now and three losses total. If we both win our remaining three games, the tiebreakers would give it to them.

If we win out and they lose one more game, however (Pit seems most likely, though I suppose SEA isn’t impossible), then we can grab it that way.

And if they lose two more and we win two more that would also be enough.

by FriarBob on Dec 11, 2011 6:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Seahawks are tough at home.

With the way the 9ers played today on the road, there’s a very real chance they could lose in Seattle.

"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!

by David "Satch" Kelly on Dec 11, 2011 6:52 PM CST up reply actions  

True. But the Suckhawks also aren’t anywhere near as good a team as the 49ers.

And if that gives the suckhawks the bulletin board material that helps them pull off the upset, I’ll be quite willing to claim I was just trying to motivate them. :)

Seriously, though, the Steelers are by far the more realistic option. Assuming, of course, that Ben is actually healthy enough to play effectively… or that Batch/Dixon are good enough to get the job done. And they just barely might be…

by FriarBob on Dec 11, 2011 6:59 PM CST up reply actions  

“But the Suckhawks also aren’t anywhere near as good a team as the 49ers.”

Neither are the Cardinals, especialy with Skelton at QB.

by Dan Kelly on Dec 11, 2011 10:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Then, things are looking a LOT better after today.

SEA is a another divisional opponent for SFand Steelers ought to be able to ice ’em.

Actually, I was hoping we were ahead in common opponents

Whodat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by nofear on Dec 11, 2011 7:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Nope. Common opponents won’t come into play. We have basically none. What will matter is conference wins and losses and unless they lose to Seattle they won’t have the third conference loss like we have already. And even then we still have to win out.

by FriarBob on Dec 11, 2011 11:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Good point. But even then, it still won’t matter. We have three NFC losses and they currently have only two. And we are 4-0 against the AFC and have no AFC opponents left in the regular season. So if we end up with the same number of losses then common opponents won’t matter because the NFC/AFC tiebreaker will be used FIRST.

by FriarBob on Dec 12, 2011 9:17 AM CST up reply actions  

excellent!

Whodat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by nofear on Dec 12, 2011 11:18 AM CST up reply actions  

Actually now that I re-check it, I may be wrong on that.

But either way, the tiebreakers are not in our favor. It’s either conference or common, either way we lose. But if they lose another game and we win out, then it doesn’t matter.

by FriarBob on Dec 12, 2011 1:44 PM CST up reply actions  

I believe it’s conference wins first.

But, you’re right, the only way we get #2 seed is if we have a better record… they have the tiebreaker, no mater what else happens in the regular season.

by Dan Kelly on Dec 12, 2011 2:33 PM CST up reply actions  

It sucks that Carolina collapsed today.

I really hate having to play the Falcons on Monday night with them still mathematically in the hunt for the division. And, if they were to win, we’d HAVE to beat Carolina the last week. On top of which, the Falcons will have an extra three days to rest up before they play us, because they play on Thursday night.

by RobertM320 on Dec 11, 2011 7:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Had them on the ropes and choked it away. Really pissed me off. I was so hoping to be wrong on predicting the Foulclowns winning.

by FriarBob on Dec 11, 2011 11:50 PM CST up reply actions  

the fox sound never picked up anything about it..

pam oliver didn’t say anything.. the 4th ref.. didn’t hear it.. the other 3 refs didn’t hear it.. but the miked-up guy & their local beat video guy did.. even thru the mike..?
the refs would have stopped play immediately.. & give the bench a warning if they couldn’t determine where it was coming from.. that tells me they did not hear anything..
not to say that whistle-man couldn’t have made his way to TN.. & he was messing them up.. if that’s the case.. he’s a genius.. on top of his obvious whistling talent..

by the 9th plague on Dec 11, 2011 7:28 PM CST up reply actions  

maybe it was one of those high pitched whistles only dogs can hear

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by N_O_1saintfan on Dec 11, 2011 7:42 PM CST up reply actions  

it could have been a fan… with out without a device.

I can whistle really freakin loud without an actual whistle… I don’t even use my hands.

by Dan Kelly on Dec 11, 2011 10:13 PM CST up reply actions  

won't go there

Whodat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by nofear on Dec 12, 2011 1:40 AM CST up reply actions  

;-)

it is against NFL rules (from what I understand) that fans can’t bring in noise making devices.

by Dan Kelly on Dec 12, 2011 12:07 PM CST up reply actions  

GO GIANTS

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by N_O_1saintfan on Dec 11, 2011 7:35 PM CST reply actions  

NY/Dallas got even more interesting

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by metryman on Dec 11, 2011 10:05 PM CST reply actions  

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