Ask The Falcoholic: First Blood Part II
by Dave Choate on Dec 19, 2011 8:24 AM CST
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PrintA Monday night game. A win for the Saints gives you guys the division. A win for the Falcons gives them a playoff berth. It's the biggest game of the year.
So here I am, dispensing my usual brand of folksy Falcons wisdom. Wanna know about Michael Turner's recent slowdown? Why, sure! Gotta hear about Sean Weatherspoon? You betcha! Want to know why the Falcons are better than they were last time our two teams played? I'll make an unconvincing argument!
As usual, please Recommend this so it will remain up at the top for those who wish to ask questions/harass me.
Here's to the usual fantastic game!
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This game is going to be epic.
I’m looking forward to it. So how is Atlanta better than the last time?
They've sort of settled on an identity
Which is a very good defensive team with a deep passing game that’s finally clicking. With Julio Jones healthy and Roddy White playing well again, they’ve got a strike capability they lacked earlier in the season. And that defense is the best they’ve had since the ’90’s.
Admittedly this is just over the last couple of games, so it’s probably too early to be as optimistic as I am. Ah well.
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'Twill be the night after Christmas and all through the Dome...
Not a Falcon will be able
To keep Drew from breaking Marino’s record in the first half!
So I ain’t a poet…..
"Well, that sucked."-stujo4 on Rams vs. Saints
CHALLENGE ACCEPTED
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Love your creativity in the Title Dave
Like Rustdog said, this game is going to be epic. And to tell you the truth, it’s scary to see your team getting hot recently. Julio and Roddy are playing like they’re supposed too. I will admit it, your team is pretty darn scary.
I would like to see both A games duke it out Monday night. No penalties, no turnovers, no sloppiness. With a win of course. Look forward to another coronary type of game between the two.
I spent 8 years trying to reach him...and then another 7 trying to keep him locked up because I realized what was living behind that boy's eyes was purely and simply...Evil.
Dr. Sam Loomis Aka (Donald Pleasence)
Unfortunately, chances are good that won't happen
These teams force mistakes. I fully expect a couple of fumbles and bumbles along the way.
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I totally agree.
And it’s always down to the wire with seconds left between the two. You never know the outcome of Saints/Falcons games. I’m just hoping it’s not us that has those fumbles. They’ll probably be a turnover or 2 between both teams.
I spent 8 years trying to reach him...and then another 7 trying to keep him locked up because I realized what was living behind that boy's eyes was purely and simply...Evil.
Dr. Sam Loomis Aka (Donald Pleasence)
I think (with all due respect) the only way for a Falcon victory is to get a large lead and keep it
which is unlikely, but could happen. I say this because the crowd will be so pumped, a major comeback/ 4th qtr heroics are going to be a tough chore on the road in a loud dome.
What Falcon injuries are going to factor in?
If Pro is the opposite of Con, what is the opposite of Progress? Congress!
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If Brent Grimes isn't healthy, that will hurt
Given that he’s the team’s closest thing to a shutdown corner and he’s picked Drew Brees three or four times over the last couple of years. Other than that, they should be healthy.
The key is going to be the defense. They’ve been superb this year—top five against the run, top seven in points allowed—but the secondary is still a little dicey. If they can’t get after Brees and completely shut down the run, it could be a long day.
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just put a fan shot up, Mike smith expected Grimes and Hayden to be at practice today.
Whats for dinner, dad?
Wookie Steak.
Is that good?
It's a little chewy.
Yesssss
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by Dave Choate on Dec 20, 2011 11:49 AM CST up reply actions
If I were you, I’d hope they rest for week 17 so they don’t get demoralized from Brees being Brees. He’s playing better than I’ve ever seen him play before…
by BlackandGold4ever on Dec 20, 2011 12:03 PM CST up reply actions
They're the only shot the Falcons have
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by Dave Choate on Dec 20, 2011 12:07 PM CST up reply actions
Not really.
There are just too many weapons on the Saints right now. Now granted I’m going to enjoy the game a lot more if you guys are missing your best corners and Drew just lights you up for 500+ yards and 6 or 7 TDs in a 30 point blowout.
But if you’re counting on your corners, it won’t be enough. Even Grimes won’t be able to handle Jimmy. Not solo, at least. Then you add in Colston, Lance, the way Meachem is actually looking like a semi-competent receiver, Henderson, Sproles, PT, Collins, and oh if that’s not enough there’s always Gilmore, Korey Hall, Ingram, Ivory and maybe even Roby. And every last one of them Drew is capable of getting the ball to as needed.
Now if your DL can step up and get in Drew’s face, THAT would give you a chance. In fact, it would give you a really good chance. So I’m hoping very much either your DL can’t or our OL can also step up and keep him clean. But if you get about five sacks and force about 5 to 10 rushed throws, you’ll get some INTs and 3-and-outs and such.
But it still won’t be because your best corners played.
I can't really argue with that
Needless to say, I’m nervous. The pass rush has been inconsistent all year long.
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Are y’all disappointed in the high draft picks that you have on your D-line? How is Peria Jerry working out?
by BlackandGold4ever on Dec 20, 2011 3:02 PM CST up reply actions
Jerry's the big disappointment
Other than him, there’s really no high draft picks from the current regime. The closest thing is Corey Peters, who was drafted in the third round and is a premier run stopper.
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We don’t have a pass rush either. Our leader is Roman harper with 7.5.
As a bonus, only Adrian Wilson of the 2005 Cardinals has a higher sack total by a safety in a season with 8…We may have a defensive record this year in addition to the offensive sweep.
Whats for dinner, dad?
Wookie Steak.
Is that good?
It's a little chewy.
I'm confident they can limit the run
Obviously less confident about Brees. No sane human being is going to tell you that they can stop him with the way he’s playing now. A handful of sacks and a couple of turnovers are their best shot.
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by Dave Choate on Dec 19, 2011 10:01 AM CST up reply actions
THe thing about the run is that we barely even scratched the surface last time, 16 carries for 41 yards is barely enough to provide a quality sampling of what the Saints run game can do. What I believe is that last game we attacked the average passing defense without really trying to run the ball, aside from keeping your pass rush and LBs honest in coverage. I assume it will be a similar deal this week. I mean we have gashed several top ten rushing defenses so if the saints wanted to run the ball, especially with Strief back and the O line seemingly healthy, we could. I think the real question will be how healthy are your DB’s, in reality, and how often can the saints get open in the pass game. To sum up my babbling, I don’t think the Atlanta defense necessarily ‘shut down’ our running game last meeting, although 2.9 ypc is abysmal, I truly believe we just avoided it all together and went after the pass Defense which is much less menacing.
After saying all of this I realize that, technically, that is shutting down our run game because we didn’t even really try to break into it.
Whats for dinner, dad?
Wookie Steak.
Is that good?
It's a little chewy.
I feel like we can run on anyone since we have 4 backs that all offer a different style and all do a great job
and for the most part are very versatile. We shall see, though.
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I think you'll have more success with Sproles than, say, Ingram/Ivory
The Falcons have had the bulk of their issues stopping the run off the edge. It’s just very, very difficult to run up the middle on them, and they’re fourth in the league in yardage allowed because of it. But they’ve really had no trouble containing most backs.
The Falcons have arguably gotten better since the last time these two teams played, and last time, the Saints only managed 41 yards on 15 carries. It’s gonna be on Brees.
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by Dave Choate on Dec 19, 2011 10:15 AM CST up reply actions
True, it will be on Brees
Just like it is every other game.
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by cajuncreation on Dec 19, 2011 11:56 AM CST up reply actions
Don’t forget that the saints also have shut down some pretty good rushing attacks recently, what I mean to say is that our D has also gotten better. Although Fat boy Turner always seems to have a decent game, generally speaking. Probably because of his size and strength. Hard to match up against a Jerome Bettis style runner.
Whats for dinner, dad?
Wookie Steak.
Is that good?
It's a little chewy.
I'm remembering another Monday Night game between the two of us,
Hi, Dave. Yes the Falcons seem to have found their grove as of late. Do you really think they can control Drew Bressss, with the way he is currently playing. Our Defense seems to be stepping up it’s play now also. I think both Julio, and Rodney, are playing better also, but have they really gotten over their case of the dropsies. Can the Burner, burn our new and improved D-line play? As always here’s to a great game, with no injuries. Of course with us having Greater play.
Drew Brees....MVP Saint! Who Dat!!!
by cajuncommando58 on Dec 19, 2011 10:03 AM CST reply actions
I'm not confident in stopping Brees
How could anyone be? He’s the second best quarterback in the NFL this season, and in the second half he’s arguably been the best. I can’t sit here with a straight face and tell you the Falcons can contain him. It’ll give me nightmares for the rest of the week.
I think both guys are “over” the drops, but that doesn’t mean they won’t bobble a pass or two. It’s part of their games. They have made enormous strides, however, and Julio in particular is a deadly deep threat.
I wouldn’t worry that much about Turner. He’s slowing down at this point, and while he’ll still be effective, he’s basically there to set up the pass right now.
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by Dave Choate on Dec 19, 2011 10:16 AM CST up reply actions
Thanks Dave
As always an honest assessment. The only real way to stop Drew is to keep him off the field. So, I’m glad to hear Turner is slowing down. Also sorry and happy to hear Grimes isn’t 100%.
Drew Brees....MVP Saint! Who Dat!!!
by cajuncommando58 on Dec 19, 2011 10:27 AM CST up reply actions
He might be with rest
But yeah, I’m concerned about that. He’s the team’s best asset in coverage.
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by Dave Choate on Dec 19, 2011 10:30 AM CST up reply actions
Well...
y’all are getting a semi-bye before you play us. That seems to be happening to us a lot this season with our divisional opponents.
Drew Brees....MVP Saint! Who Dat!!!
by cajuncommando58 on Dec 19, 2011 10:33 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah I can agree here. I’m not worried about the Saints scoring, Saints passing/rushing attack or the Atlanta running game as much as I’m worried about you guys scoring in the pass game. The saints have showed weakness in deep coverage, man to man coverage and, as we saw last hotlanta game with Douglas, crappy zone coverage. It’s very possible that the fast tempo offense that you guys were running confused the defense, it would probably confuse most defenses, but hopefully if situations like that arise again, someone will call a timeout and the saints can regroup. The man and deep coverage we will have to just pray, its certainly our pass D that is the weakness of the team right now.
Whats for dinner, dad?
Wookie Steak.
Is that good?
It's a little chewy.
How could anyone be? He’s the second best quarterback in the NFL this season, and in the second half he’s arguably been the best. I can’t sit here with a straight face and tell you the Falcons can contain him. It’ll give me nightmares for the rest of the week.
FIFY
by Saintsfan75 on Dec 21, 2011 4:31 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
People are finally saying he might have a decent chance at MVP now.
Duh!
Whodat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bah.
You preempted my question about Turner. It always seems he wears down near the end of the year (likely due to the massive workloads he takes on during the season). Was wondering if that was the case again this year. I’m sure he’ll show up and rip at least one big rush off though. I just hope it happens when it doesn’t really matter and not at a critical spot in the game.
grove=groove
Drew Brees....MVP Saint! Who Dat!!!
by cajuncommando58 on Dec 19, 2011 10:04 AM CST reply actions
falcons make me nervous
i’m not one of those guys who likes watching close games. i like watching games that remind me of madden… like the 62 point thrashing of the colts or last night against the vikes. i really hope the saints can win easily and have chased in by the fourth quarter.
It's always possible
The Falcons have slid back from good games in the past, so it’s not like it’s unprecedented. But these games have all been close and the Falcons are on fire lately.
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by Dave Choate on Dec 19, 2011 10:17 AM CST up reply actions
In case it escaped your notice, the Saints have been a little warm over the last half dozen or so.
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by theprogrammerman on Dec 19, 2011 2:02 PM CST up reply actions
I'm with you on the Colts game,
but not so much the Vikings game. If we had made those mistakes (fumbles, etc.) early on against a team like Atlanta, I feel like that game would’ve played out a lot differently. Props to the defense for minimizing that damage, but I hope to god the coaching staff still gave the team hell over that ugly start despite the beatdown we put on the Vikes the rest of that game.
When y'all drafted Weatherspoon I was like....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umDr0mPuyQc
And shepherds we shall be, for thee my Lord for thee, Power hath descended forth from thy hand, that our feet may swiftly carry out thy command, we shall flow a river forth to thee, and teeming with souls shall it ever be. In nomine patris, et filii, et spiritus sancti.
It's funny
After his rookie season, some Falcons fans were like “HE’LL NEVER AMOUNT TO ANYTHING!”
I think we’ve set that one to rest.
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by Dave Choate on Dec 19, 2011 10:18 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah Weatherspoon has given us fits lately
I spent 8 years trying to reach him...and then another 7 trying to keep him locked up because I realized what was living behind that boy's eyes was purely and simply...Evil.
Dr. Sam Loomis Aka (Donald Pleasence)
He's absurdly good
And somehow he’s not going to make a Pro Bowl, despite having about 100 tackles, four sacks, a pick, turnovers and gobs and gobs of tackles for loss.
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by Dave Choate on Dec 19, 2011 10:31 AM CST up reply actions
Chalk it up to playing in the NFC South…I’m curious to see how many we get. It will be absurd if Nicks/Evans don’t make it as starters
by BlackandGold4ever on Dec 19, 2011 10:39 AM CST up reply actions
The NFC South is definitely underrepresented thus far
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by Dave Choate on Dec 19, 2011 10:48 AM CST up reply actions
Actually simply chalk it up to playing an OLB in a 4-3. When people vote for Pro Bowl…99% look at sack numbers for OLB. He can obviously still make the Pro Bowl based on the other 2/3 of the vote from players and coaches etc.
-Lombardi was wrong...it's the internet, not fatigue that makes cowards of us all. But then again, what do you expect. Not like the guy could see the future.
Wait... a rookie that sucked? That's unheard of!
I hope our first-round rookie steps up his game next year, like Spoon.
It’s not the size of your TOP, it’s how you use it!
Want scientific proof? Read this paper by Dr. Jeremy Arkes.
I was speaking of our defensive rookie.
Ingram has shown flashes and has filled his role well.
Cam has only scratched the surface of his potential. [I’m hoping.]
It’s not the size of your TOP, it’s how you use it!
Want scientific proof? Read this paper by Dr. Jeremy Arkes.
I've been watching him
the past few games, and it looks like maybe just maybe, he’s slowly getting it. I don’t want to jinx him, but I’m hoping that he may finally be peeking around the corner, and thinking about turning it.
I haven’t been on the site much this week (Christmas, gah), and I’m sure it’s been mentioned in another thread already, but speaking of young guys on D, how about P-Rob’s last game? First real complete game we’ve seen from him. Hope he can build on that and prove the nay-sayers wrong.
Think he's looking at you DK
Drew Brees....MVP Saint! Who Dat!!!
by cajuncommando58 on Dec 22, 2011 2:09 PM CST up reply actions
I’m glad more people who agree with me (at least a little) are speaking up.
“First real complete game we’ve seen from him.”
100% correct! And, I’ve given PRob his props for this last game.
(I didn’t even try to take anything away from it because it’s a rookie QB who executed horribly all game. PRob played very well in the last game.)
It’s not the size of your TOP, it’s how you use it!
Want scientific proof? Read this paper by Dr. Jeremy Arkes.
I said the same thing
He was the guy I wanted so bad, and he is turning out to be a big time player too…
Eat, drink, and be merry, for tomorrow we die!
WHO DAT?!
TWO DAT!!
by LA_No1_SaintFan on Dec 20, 2011 8:45 PM CST up reply actions
DAVE!!!!
Such a glutton for punishment. Year-in and year-out.
Were I Atlanta, it wouldn’t be Brees or Colston I would be concerned about (I mean, you’ve seen them twice a year for half a decade), it would be Sproles and Graham.
What are ya’ll going to do about that tandem?
Stupid people are like slinkies. They're not really useful for anything, but it's still fun to watch them tumble down stairs.
Pray for back spasms
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by cajuncommando58 on Dec 19, 2011 10:43 AM CST up reply actions
Also that
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by Dave Choate on Dec 19, 2011 10:50 AM CST up reply actions
I'm extremely concerned about Graham
The Falcons would be smart to put William Moore on him, given his extreme physicality and speed. He’ll be tough to stop, though.
I’m less concerned about Sproles, though he’s still obviously a weapon. As a runner he’s not going to have a ton of luck against the Falcons’ front runner, and as a pass catcher he’ll cause a ton of headaches but isn’t as big a concern to me as say Graham or Colston.
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by Dave Choate on Dec 19, 2011 10:49 AM CST up reply actions
You guys completely shut Sproles down last game. I would expect it to continue. Saints don’t run block well, and you guys are great against the run. I expect it to be similar to last game where we barely ran the ball and when we did we averaged something pathetic like 2.5 a rush.
-Lombardi was wrong...it's the internet, not fatigue that makes cowards of us all. But then again, what do you expect. Not like the guy could see the future.
have you seen the o-line and the running game since then?
(unless you were trying to give him a false sense of security… damn, I almost screwed that up.)
It’s not the size of your TOP, it’s how you use it!
Want scientific proof? Read this paper by Dr. Jeremy Arkes.
Yes I have…the O-line hasn’t been very impressive at all in the run game. Plus the defenses we’ve faced, have hardly been of the caliber of the Falcons with teams like the Vikes and Suhless Lions.
-Lombardi was wrong...it's the internet, not fatigue that makes cowards of us all. But then again, what do you expect. Not like the guy could see the future.
Yeah, the Giants defense sucks…and Detroit has no depth on the defensive line. And the Titans are definitely not a good defensive team.
Sorry, but I don’t know how to do the sarcasm font…I’m sure most everybody can tell that is what this is, though.
by BlackandGold4ever on Dec 19, 2011 2:57 PM CST up reply actions
put a @ immediately before and after the line you want to be the sarc-font
@ like this, without the spaces @
It’s not the size of your TOP, it’s how you use it!
Want scientific proof? Read this paper by Dr. Jeremy Arkes.
I’m not going to go down the list, but the o-line has been playing pretty damn good lately.
the vikings d-line is not as good as the Falcons d-line? pu-lease.
It’s not the size of your TOP, it’s how you use it!
Want scientific proof? Read this paper by Dr. Jeremy Arkes.
Yeah, that Jared Allen guy really sucks
by BlackandGold4ever on Dec 19, 2011 3:43 PM CST up reply actions
We were talking run defense….Allen hasn’t played against the run since college…unless you count running up field past the running back.
And for the record….Falcons are fourth in rush defense. Giants?….yea they’re 22nd. Titans? Oh yea…they’re 23rd. So how about you actually learn what you’re trying to talk about before trying to be sarcastic. It’s called reality…not perception. As Stu likes to say…it’s 2011.
-Lombardi was wrong...it's the internet, not fatigue that makes cowards of us all. But then again, what do you expect. Not like the guy could see the future.
jeff, that was harsh. You should be banned for a few days.
Wikings have the 10th ranked run D. What are we talking about?
What song is it you wanna hear?
We were talking about how the Falcons are better than they were…which apparently nobody believed except for me…and those living in the present reality.
-Lombardi was wrong...it's the internet, not fatigue that makes cowards of us all. But then again, what do you expect. Not like the guy could see the future.
I agree
That this run D is better than just about any we’ve faced. But I also think that our run game has, for the most part, been improving over the past month or so. I also concur that it’s going to rest on Brees to win this for us, but I am really curious to see how our runners perform. Should be a good litmus test and give us some idea of what they can do against a stout run D (got the Niners floating around in the back of my head).
And so how is present reality working out for you now? You still living in a world where our O-line can’t run block? I’d say 23 carries for 164 yards (7.1 ypc) is pretty good against a top five run defense.
Normally, I wouldn’t come around after the fact, but just felt the need to after being told to learn what I am talking about. Did you learn much about our offensive line and running game last night?
by BlackandGold4ever on Dec 27, 2011 7:10 AM CST up reply actions
you should look closer at the stats
our 4 backs average these ypc :
Sproles 6.5
PT 5.0 while Turner averages 4.1
Ingram 3.9
Ivory 4.1 Falcons other RBs average 3.8 and 2.9
So, that means Turner would be tied for 3rd in our lineup. Maybe 4th (since our O-line "hasn’t been very impressive). Also, our 4 RBs have run for about 1650 yds. Turner etal approx 1400. So, we run for more yards on average, and overall also. And that is with Ivory coming back and just getting back into form after missing half a season. And that’s with a team that emphasis (and sets records) passing the ball.
Don’t know what makes you think our O-Line is not impressive in the run game. Note to Jeff- a team cannot have the top ranked offense without an awesome O-Line. It all starts there. It all happens there.
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by Philinwood on Dec 19, 2011 4:45 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
and that's with a rookie who is doing real well but has been fighting injuries and is just getting
used to the NFL but is still averaging the same as Turner.
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Since when does this discussion have anything to do what so ever with the Falcons running game? Oh yea…it doesn’t. And with the exception of Sproles, our backs are averaging….well…average. And since I consider them all to be slightly above average backs…that leads me to believe the line isn’t always doing it’s job. Hell…Bush runs for 200 yards as a Dolphin…what did he ever do running for us? Oh yea…now he has things called “holes”.
-Lombardi was wrong...it's the internet, not fatigue that makes cowards of us all. But then again, what do you expect. Not like the guy could see the future.
PT is averaging 5.0 ypc- that's excellent by NFL standards
and for Ingram, a rookie who gets the workhorse assignments, to average 3.9 especially when a lot of his carries are 3rd and 1 and 3rd and goal from the 2 or simliar, and Ivory is a sophmore who missed preseason and half of the regular season. Well, I think all that adds up to an impressive O-Line that almost any team in the league would be happy to have. Our two top backs averaging 5.0 and 6.5 ypc- that’s epic! But, I guess we differ. You think PT and Sproles are doing that all by themselves. I don’t.
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and sorry, 5.0 ypc is not average in the NFL. Maybe it is for Coastal Carolina, but not the NFL.
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No I don't think they're doing it all by themselves....just a solid 85% of it.
-Lombardi was wrong...it's the internet, not fatigue that makes cowards of us all. But then again, what do you expect. Not like the guy could see the future.
honestly, I know you know more about football than that
that’s why I guy like Arian Foster only averages a little more or a little less than Ben Tate- because 85% is done by the line. Without blocking, even Gale Sayers would never get a first down.
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Actually it’s because Ben Tate is almost as good of a back if not potentially better than Foster. That’s why they drafted him to be their RB of the future last year before the ankle injury.
-Lombardi was wrong...it's the internet, not fatigue that makes cowards of us all. But then again, what do you expect. Not like the guy could see the future.
What are you smoking?
Ben Tate is good, but he’s nowhere near Foster. Just watch the two of them and see if Tate can make any of the hesitation moves leading into an accelerated burst past the defenders like Foster does.
by BlackandGold4ever on Dec 20, 2011 11:19 AM CST up reply actions
He’s part right. They did draft Tate expecting him to be what Foster has become. But his injury problems prevented it.
They drafted him with that intent, but this is what caught my eye:
bq.Ben Tate is almost as good of a back if not potentially better than Foster
I live just outside of Houston and don’t have DirecTV, so I wind up watching a lot of Texans games. What I have seen leads me to think that Arian Foster is a franchise RB, while Ben Tate is just a solid RB.
by BlackandGold4ever on Dec 20, 2011 2:59 PM CST up reply actions
Oh I’m not really going to disagree with you. Foster does appear to be the better back by far and definitely is the better fantasy option without a doubt.
But I was pointing out that the expectations were very high for Tate. And if he’s truly healthy now, then you’re completely right, he’s a dud. I’m not really sure he’s ever recovered from that injury that wiped out last year, however. But if he’s not, I’d also doubt that he ever will, either.
846 yards on 153 carries at a 5.5 yard clip is a bust? Sign that bust up for our team please, I’ll take him in a heartbeat.
-Lombardi was wrong...it's the internet, not fatigue that makes cowards of us all. But then again, what do you expect. Not like the guy could see the future.
There’s a difference between a “bust” and a “dud”.
A “bust” is a complete waste of a draft pick, totally useless, and out of the league in three or four years (or at least on your second or third team, and barring a miraculous turnaround on the way out the door for them as well).
A dud simply means you didn’t meet the expectations. Bush was a dud, not a bust. So was Tate.
I cannot see in any way shape or form where you could label Tate a dud. He’s accomplished absolutely everything that’s been asked of him and in fairly impressive fashion. You can’t fault him for the freak injury last season. This season he’s more than accomplished any expectations that could be put forward for a RB. Especially with his limited carries. If he had those same stats on our team…you and everyone else would be calling him the second coming of Deuce. If Foster’s injury had been year long…and you look at what Tate’s done…his additional numbers would easily be putting him in the top 5 in the league in rushing. As it is he’s STILL in the top 20 as a backup for goodness sakes and averaging better than every single back in the NFL who qualifies in the top 40 with the notable exception of Darren Sproles. The numbers simply do not back up your argument in the least.
-Lombardi was wrong...it's the internet, not fatigue that makes cowards of us all. But then again, what do you expect. Not like the guy could see the future.
You are missing half of the story, though. Go look at the receiving numbers for Tate and Foster and you’ll notice a drastic difference. And I still say that if you watch each of them run, Tate is not in the same class of RBs as Foster.
by BlackandGold4ever on Dec 21, 2011 7:40 AM CST up reply actions
Zone blocking
is a beautiful thing if you have the personnel to do it. I’d like to see Tate operate on a different team. I like him, personally, but it’s kind of like those back from the Broncos back when they had that wicked zone blocking system running at a high level. You could put anyone back there and they’d get 100 yards. He’s definitely good, but I think that system makes any back look good if it’s run properly, and it’s definitely run properly in Houston.
a lot of it has to do with the OL- that was my point- it will continue to be
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And Foster actually works better with that line, too.
by BlackandGold4ever on Dec 21, 2011 7:35 AM CST up reply actions
A.Foster = Gazelle..... B.Tate = Wart Hog
both can run, one is a little flashier.
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Bush
has also remained vaguely healthy this year and is getting more carries than he ever did in NOLA. There was a small contingent of us that believed he could be that guy here if health and carries aligned in that way. And to be fair, the Dolphins run game has about as much to do with the conversation as the Falcons’.
Not saying you guys don't/won't block well
But the Falcons are fourth in the NFL against the run. It should be a good matchup.
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speaking of matchups… how’s your D against the screen?
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Not great
That’s always my concern with Sproles.
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I don’t have a problem with that statement, but Jeff is (once again) overboard in saying that we don’t run block well. I guess we just lucked our way into the top 10 in rushing. Although, when you see that y’all allow over 325 yards per game through the air, why would anybody bother trying to focus on the run?
by BlackandGold4ever on Dec 20, 2011 6:32 AM CST up reply actions
Wow…I’ll call myself on this…that is not a good stat. Not sure where that number came from, but apparently I didn’t see it right.
by BlackandGold4ever on Dec 20, 2011 6:58 AM CST up reply actions
It's all good
I think you guys are a quality run team with some versatility thanks to your many, many backs. It just would be a stretch to assume you’re going to run all over the Falcons.
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I’m surprised that y’all don’t have a better record with that defense…
by BlackandGold4ever on Dec 20, 2011 8:11 AM CST up reply actions
They are 17th in passing yards against @ 230.4.
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We’re 8th in rushing yards per game @ 125.4. (@ home it’s 159.0/game)
And 6th in rushing yards per attempt @ 4.7. (@ home we lead the league @ 5.6/attempt)
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i think we will see a lot of moore and Decoud on Graham for reasons you already stated. Although in a a jump ball situation, neither can compare to Graham. We have similar problems with Gonzales. Roddy and Julio are on fire but don’t forget about the middle of the field with Gonzales…I’m reminding the Saints :)
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Yeah, Grimes against Graham would actually be best
Because despite his size Grimey can leap like crazy. Moore’s my bet, though, because he’s by far the most physical guy in the secondary.
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by Dave Choate on Dec 20, 2011 11:55 AM CST up reply actions
Either way you look at it, The falcons pass D will probably be doubling up on Graham and have a hard time matching against the Saint’s receivers. If they put Grimes and a safety on Graham then we will see a heavy dose of Meachem/Colston/Moore, at least whoever is drawing your nickle back or safety at the time. If the route is short and they put Grimes and a LB on Graham then quick out to Sproles or PT for the screen. Again, we will have similar problems on our side. Certainly glad we are playing in New Orleans this time.
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It's a little chewy.
Who do you want to play in the wild card round of the playoffs?
I can’t see y’all not making it because nobody else is playing like they want it. It would be cool if y’all repaid the Packers for the game from last season, but I’m not sure I want to face y’all a third time…
by BlackandGold4ever on Dec 19, 2011 10:43 AM CST reply actions
The Giants or Cowboys
They’re extremely inconsistent and have quarterbacks prone to making big mistakes. I like those kinds of matchups for the Falcons.
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by Dave Choate on Dec 19, 2011 10:50 AM CST up reply actions
You will very very likely play the NFC East winner…
It’s a long shot, but would you rather play the Eagles? It could happen if they all three end 8-8.
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Any chance Atlanta Harry Douglas is inactive for the game?
Also, what is the latest on Mike Smith? Is he going to be ok? Test results?
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He'll be active
And Mike Smith is okay. Tests came back negative. This team is just stressful to coach.
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by Dave Choate on Dec 19, 2011 11:49 AM CST up reply actions
Any chance you could wait until the CB (I won't say who) gets lined up on him before Matty snaps the ball?
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The Falcons haver found a way into the record books
So will all the Falcon fans thank Drew for putting them in the record book when he passes Marino’s record against them
From what I have seen over the years this really is the only way ya’ll will ever make it in there
by mississippisaintsfan on Dec 19, 2011 12:22 PM CST reply actions 3 recs
extra bonus
if brees breaks the record while playing against the falcons i think the dome goes uber-nuts!
I think The Dome is going to be in playoff form… this really is like a playoff game for both teams… maybe a little more so for ATL, but it’s very important for us too.
The other Dave, how have the Falcons done in very hostile environments this year? Have you guys played in any VERY loud stadiums yet?
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The closest thing would be Seattle
They struggled a bit in that game. Hmm…
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Lol, so did we.
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by hooahsaint2.0 on Dec 20, 2011 4:47 AM CST up reply actions
Careful
You know what they say about karma.
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we're already in a lot of other team's record books...
karma’s been a bitch to us for a long time… now we’re cashing out some of our chips.
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by Dan Kelly on Dec 19, 2011 7:00 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I would like a turn at that, please!
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next year… maybe… and long as you’ll settle for a loss in the NFCCG in the Superdome. ;-)
speaking of next year… is Tony G coming back? How’s Turner holding up?
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Turner's a little banged up
Just getting awfully close to 30.
I think the Falcons might be able to entice Gonzo to come back for one more season, but that might be it.
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by Dave Choate on Dec 19, 2011 10:06 PM CST up reply actions
One more thing does Dunta Robinson think the Saints recievers suck also
It might be a good thing if they do because ive never seen him be able to cover a decent reciever muchless a good one
by mississippisaintsfan on Dec 19, 2011 12:24 PM CST reply actions
I don't think he does
I mean, have you seen the Jaguars wide receivers? It’s like a junior high school for awkward children.
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your Falcons have played our Saints twice a year for a while now...
What’s your take (and the general Falcoholic sense, if you know it) on the charges of the Saints being a dirty team?
And specifically, Roman Harper as a dirty player – do you see it?
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I don't think the Saints are particularly dirty
Just like I don’t think the Falcons are particularly dirty, FriarBob. Unless you’re talking about Joe Hawley, who has the best flop in the NFL today.
I think teams get a bad rap based on a couple of plays in one game. That’s not really fair.
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I think the Saints are edging further and further past "simply aggressive" and more frequently into "late hit" and "cheap shot" territory this year
and I don’t much like it
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by Hans Petersen on Dec 19, 2011 9:43 PM CST up reply actions
I'll weasal here
I haven’t watched enough Saints football this year to judge your team as dirty or not. I’m hesitant to do so anyways after the Falcons earned a reputation as a dirty team earlier this season for one Dunta Robinson hit, a couple of holds and Joe Hawley’s crazy flopping.
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I agree
I’ll concede there have been some bad calls (penalties on clean hits, phantom late hits, etc) but when they’re looking for a reason to throw a flag, don’t hand one to them on a platter. But I have seen some dusty play going on, and no, I don’t like it at all. It diminishes what the team accomplishes and my respect for the players.
That said, I don’t believe there was a whistle at TN and I seriously doubt AP’s ankle was purposefully twisted, if at all.
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by cajuncreation on Dec 21, 2011 11:38 AM CST up reply actions
And no, don't really see Harper as a dirty player
Makes the occasionally dusty play.
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it used to be that most of the whining in Minnesota was the fans
now it’s more the players. The Minnesota Whinekings.
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Y'know
I saw the thing from Peterson, and I think it was blown up a lot by the media on this one. My guess is that he was responding to a question as to why he got in Greer’s face and explained that he expected people to key on his injury but Greer went too far, which is why he got in his face.
The writers chose to make a bigger deal of it than was necessary most likely.
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by hooahsaint2.0 on Dec 20, 2011 7:04 AM CST up reply actions
That's writers in general
I think when you have a finesse defense like the Saints have, you take the advantages you can get, including keying in on defenses. I don’t know that it makes it right, but hey.
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Keying in on injuries*
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I don't care how Greer tackled him.
The important thing was HE TACKLED HIM.
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by cajuncommando58 on Dec 20, 2011 11:12 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah
It’s not like he ripped his leg off and ate it.
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by Dave Choate on Dec 20, 2011 11:50 AM CST up reply actions
New defensive strategy from GW:
Starve players and have them rip off limbs for sustenance. I like it.
players have always done this, it’s not limited to the saints, or any team, this year or any year. I fully agree with the media created hype. The reporter knew that because of the attention to Harper last week, along with Harrison and Suh, that an article about a possible ‘Dirty’ play or player would get printed. Just like normal news its all hell and brimstone, there is no good in the world anymore according to the media.
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Wookie Steak.
Is that good?
It's a little chewy.
Calling them whinekings is an insult to every other football player in the NFL. They are WhineQUEENS.
I realized after the fact that this could be misinterpreted. I am in no way intending to insult women. I know plenty of fine ladies who are genetically XX and anatomically correct who still have bigger balls than that entire bunch of whinequeens.
by FriarBob on Dec 20, 2011 7:06 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Here, here!
Gotta rec this comment! Ain’t it the truth??
"It's about time that something good like this happened." - Drew Brees
Hmmm, never realized that the gloves are off on these "Ask" threads.
/exits stage right
Whodat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ok.. i've had it.. must confess that this weekly "ask the whoever.."
buggs the hell out of me.. normally i don’t participate..
but i’m in a mood today..
no questions from me..
just a prediction: we will break your team in half.. & hang 40 on you..
by the 9th plague on Dec 20, 2011 12:52 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Hello, sunshine!
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Dirty Bird can't fly with a broken wing...............
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by Ship on Dec 20, 2011 4:57 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I think NFL fans across the nation will enjoy this game no matter who wins
Saints and Falcons always play each other with no holds barred.
As far as Saints and Falcons fans though: only a crushing defeat of the other team will be enjoyable. I remember telling Ricky Jackson (years before the dome patrol days) when I was a boy, “I don’t care if y’all don’t win another game all year, just beat Atlanta.”
Hell, if I was offered these options:
1) The Saints get beat by the Falcons twice but make it to the Superbowl.
2) The Saints beat the snot out of the Falcons twice but do not make it to the Superbowl.
I would have to choose beating the Falcons. I would choose having the Saints defense hitting them so hard they knock snot bubbles out of em. Damm the penalties full speed ahead! I want a highlight reel of Saints receivers embarrassing the Falcon’s defensive backs. One that gives me a woodie every time I watch it over and over and over again. Embarrass the Falcon’s players so much that they have to seek professional therapy during the off-season. A beat-down of epic proportions! Mass hysteria, dogs and cats living together….well you get the picture.
Me watching highlights:
“Mwah ha ha”
rewind
“Mwah ha ha”
rewind
“Mwah ha ha”
rewind…
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Hmm well I mostly agree… but I might be able to tolerate a split after we win the Super Bowl. Losing to them twice? Only if in one of them we were resting our starters because we’d already clinched homefield advantage.
Otherwise, yeah, I could probably even tolerate a 2-14 season as long as the foulclowns were 0-16.
while I admire your convictions, I’d never pass up a Super Bowl to beat any team during the regular season.
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hey Dan - the stats are even more skewed if you limit our RBs to Sproles and PT
it’s somewhere betwen 6.5 ypc (Sproles) and 5.0 ypc (PT) which means technically you should never need to pass- run on 1st down with Sproles and it will then be 2nd and 3.5 and then PT will get you 1.5 more yards than you need- and then repeat. And then repeat again. If you struggle one play then run 3 times (or 4) for the 1st down.
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:-) if it were only that easy.
The blocking for running is different than passing, and running on every down would certainly wear out the o-line.
(I’m not saying we couldn’t run a little more, but every down is a bit much.)
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and...
the problem with averages is that the actual, individual runs could vary widely.
One 32 yard run and four 2 yard runs AVERAGES out to be 4 yards/carry…
if you ran those consecutively… you’d get one first down and one turnover on downs.
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Plus you have to frame the context of each of the runs for those backs when looking at the averages. It isn’t like they line up Sproles on first down every drive and give him the ball. Same goes for PT, Ivory, and Ingram. Our offense is very versatile and that is what allows for those high YPC.
by BlackandGold4ever on Dec 21, 2011 7:43 AM CST up reply actions
I'm aware of all that
I’m just pointing out those averages which are exceptional and not something you see very often.
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You're getting real close to extending the TOP Neverending Story.......
If you see a flying dog, run like hell.
This is a different discussion that heated up a while back, but never got too much traction. ;-)
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no thanks :-P
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I’m getting ready for my trip to NOLA…
Just finished wrapping some presents.
Sounds like the dryer just stopped. Time to pack!!
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I have two questions for you, Mr. Choate....
(…stifles giggle at the word “Choate”)
1) would you prefer Brees break Dan Marino’s record in the third quarter, or go ahead and finish it off before halftime, using the “bandaid” rule of the faster.you pull it off the less.it hurts?
2) more of a request than a question – but do you think the Falcons fans and players can manage to not turn into whiny little girls when the Saints finish stomping a mud hole in ‘em Monday? Let’s try to maintain the reputation of the NFC South, and not besmirch it as the Barneys and their fans have done to the NFC North (…and conversely, if the impossible happens, and our beloved Saints fall to you evil filthy turkeys, we promise to show the same class and restraint).
In all seriousness, here’s.to a great game and no one getting injured on either side….and the Failcants goin’ home safe but sad at losing the division! ;-)
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by GSO Saints Fan on Dec 20, 2011 8:42 PM CST via mobile reply actions
No giggles allowed
1) I think he won’t break the record this week. I think he’ll throw for about 250-280 yards and easily pass it in Week 17. That is also my fervent hope.
2) I think the players can manage. The fans….yes?
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That will happen ONLY if our entire OL takes the week off. Which it could. It did for the Browns game in 2010, after all.
But otherwise, Drew will at least pass the 300 yard mark. Whether that will lead to the win we all desperately want (well, aside from Dave the Falconer, but he doesn’t count) or not remains to be seen.
I actually think you're likely to win this one
But that Drew won’t have 300 yards. That’s my prediction.
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by Dave Choate on Dec 21, 2011 10:19 AM CST up reply actions
you should put that in our prediction thread.. so you can get credit if you’re right, or laughed at when you’re wrong
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Likely laughed at
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by Dave Choate on Dec 21, 2011 10:28 AM CST up reply actions
Any chance that y'all go after Matt Forte in the offseason?
I hope not, but can’t help but to think of how he would be a perfect fit for your offense.
by BlackandGold4ever on Dec 21, 2011 7:44 AM CST reply actions
I would love it
But given the number of free agents coming up, I can’t imagine they’ll have the cap space to get it done.
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Who all are y’all trying to sign?
by BlackandGold4ever on Dec 21, 2011 11:53 AM CST up reply actions
Curtis Lofton, John Abraham, Brent Grimes, Todd McClure
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Ouch…we’ve got Brees, Nicks, Meachem, Casillas, Porter, Colston from our regulars, along with our one year starters, Rogers and Franklin. Should be interesting to see how things shake out…
by BlackandGold4ever on Dec 21, 2011 2:45 PM CST up reply actions
Be kind of hilarious if the Panthers leapfrogged both of us
And by hilarious, I mean not even remotely funny.
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I am not totally sold on the Panthers yet. I think Newton is going to have to become a much better passer or else he’ll be fighting injuries all the time. It is one thing to absorb all of those hits and run all the time as a rookie, but try doing it for 3-5 years and see how well he holds up.
by BlackandGold4ever on Dec 21, 2011 3:06 PM CST up reply actions
Probably true. But on the other hand, we know they have a good defensive mind in their HC. I mean, he consistently shut down Manning in their games despite some rather average talent back in SD. Right now he has a defense that makes ours look elite. But if he can upgrade the talent around there to even merely decent on that side of the ball, I wouldn’t be surprised if Cam doesn’t NEED to improve quite so much anymore.
What surprises me is
The Panthers have been known as a Big on D, and Run first team. I told all the Cam haters and critics that he was going to be a lot better than they were trying to make him out to be. I said he instantly made them a better team. Back to what surprises me is the fact that their D has been so bad Since Fox was fired. If Cam gets some receivers to complement Steve and their D comes together, they will be another legtimate thread in our division again.
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by cajuncommando58 on Dec 22, 2011 2:18 PM CST up reply actions
You have to remember they lost their best defender for the season before it even began. You can’t just lose people like Jon Beason without it showing.
-Lombardi was wrong...it's the internet, not fatigue that makes cowards of us all. But then again, what do you expect. Not like the guy could see the future.
We have to put both of them (Falcs&Pants) away soundly this season so
they don’t forget it soon.
Whodat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dave
Do you believe they’re calling in the NG because The falcons are coming to town?
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sounds like it’s gonna be a good game!
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I would absolutely believe it
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Calling in the National Guard?
Hmmm...
I probably shouldn’t come on this. ;-)
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by Dave Cariello on Aug 24, 2011 10:31 AM PDT
by Cajun in CA on Dec 21, 2011 9:26 PM CST up reply actions 8 recs
Now that my friend is COOL!
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/shakes fist
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note the "oh-$h!t" look on the bird's eyeball..
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Best dam use of an A10 Warthog........
since running the Iraqs out of Kawait!
Good job Cajun in CA
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I haven't seen you guys so confident in a win vs. the Falcons for a while now
This ought to be a very interesting game.
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I always talk confident
no matter how my stomach churns.
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by cajuncommando58 on Dec 23, 2011 9:17 AM CST up reply actions
wait til you see the game predictions thread...folks are all-in on the Juggernaut Saints
hopefully we’ll just win a game, one at a time
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by Hans Petersen on Dec 23, 2011 9:42 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah, I'm thinking you guys will win
But given how close every game has been over the last three seasons, it’s kind of ridiculous to think the Saints are suddenly going to drop 40 points on the Falcons and hold them to 10.
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would you believe 40+ and 25 or 30 maybe
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by cajuncommando58 on Dec 23, 2011 9:53 AM CST up reply actions
I wouldn't go that far.
Generally speaking most of the people here feel we’ll win every game every year. Frankly I think you guys win this game. Honestly I HOPE you win this game because I 100% believe the 49ers win out locking in the 2 seed. That way we beat Carolina and if we see you in the playoffs there will be that much more incentive to win with the team taking the stance of not letting you beat us twice in our own building in the same year. If we win this game and meet you in the playoffs….we’d face the dreaded 3 wins in one year scenario…which history seems to dictate as being a slim to none chance…at least from memory.
-Lombardi was wrong...it's the internet, not fatigue that makes cowards of us all. But then again, what do you expect. Not like the guy could see the future.
I should fix that…I don’t hope you win…i never want to lose…but at the same time…it just feels like that is the way it’s going. Of course I’m one of the few fans that lives in perpetual fear and flash backs of the late 70s, early 80s, mid to late 90s versions of the Saints.
-Lombardi was wrong...it's the internet, not fatigue that makes cowards of us all. But then again, what do you expect. Not like the guy could see the future.
Whippersnapper........
I think the only highlights from 1967 – 1975 was Tom Dempsey’s kick and Billy Kilmer’s retirement.
I can't wait to put my prediction down
but, for now, let me just say
the dome
MNF, nationally televised
Drew
SP
How can it not be a blowout?
Whodat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sometimes I think people predict what they want to happen
and not necessarily what is realistic to happen
I just had a rap with Santa and we took us a little stroll
And all I want for Christmas is the Saints in the Super Bowl
by Hans Petersen on Dec 23, 2011 10:03 AM CST up reply actions
That's a definite yes.
-Lombardi was wrong...it's the internet, not fatigue that makes cowards of us all. But then again, what do you expect. Not like the guy could see the future.
one might even say a definite, "Hell, yeah!!"
I just had a rap with Santa and we took us a little stroll
And all I want for Christmas is the Saints in the Super Bowl
by Hans Petersen on Dec 23, 2011 10:22 AM CST up reply actions
Language Hans...tsk tsk. We prefer "Heck, yeah!!"
-Lombardi was wrong...it's the internet, not fatigue that makes cowards of us all. But then again, what do you expect. Not like the guy could see the future.
to quote the community guidelines
“the occasional hell or damn is acceptable”
I just had a rap with Santa and we took us a little stroll
And all I want for Christmas is the Saints in the Super Bowl
by Hans Petersen on Dec 23, 2011 1:26 PM CST up reply actions
I have that part memorized
I just had a rap with Santa and we took us a little stroll
And all I want for Christmas is the Saints in the Super Bowl
by Hans Petersen on Dec 23, 2011 1:26 PM CST up reply actions
yeah there's something there about ok if it's on network tv in prime time
but even that’s become such a f****** cesspool of pottymouth stuff in the past decade or so…
I just had a rap with Santa and we took us a little stroll
And all I want for Christmas is the Saints in the Super Bowl
by Hans Petersen on Dec 23, 2011 2:26 PM CST up reply actions
plus, I'm already on vacation until Jan. 3rd
the kid gloves are off, baby!!!!!!
I just had a rap with Santa and we took us a little stroll
And all I want for Christmas is the Saints in the Super Bowl
by Hans Petersen on Dec 23, 2011 1:27 PM CST up reply actions
Nice...today's my last day of work until the 2nd.
-Lombardi was wrong...it's the internet, not fatigue that makes cowards of us all. But then again, what do you expect. Not like the guy could see the future.
congrats and saludos
I just had a rap with Santa and we took us a little stroll
And all I want for Christmas is the Saints in the Super Bowl
by Hans Petersen on Dec 23, 2011 2:27 PM CST up reply actions
I just hope we can win a game… another game.
It’s not the size of your TOP, it’s how you use it!
Want scientific proof? Read this paper by Dr. Jeremy Arkes.
by Dan Kelly on Dec 25, 2011 12:01 AM CST via Android app up reply actions
playoffs?
I just had a rap with Santa and we took us a little stroll
And all I want for Christmas is the Saints in the Super Bowl
by Hans Petersen on Dec 25, 2011 7:30 AM CST up reply actions
Dave
Is there any truth to the rumor that coach Smith will have a cardiac doctor on the sideline during the game and that he will have the paddles warmed up just in case?
"Daddy, them cigarettes are gonna kill you". My aunts last words to my 96 year old grandpa before he fell out of bed and broke his neck reaching for a full pack.
During a game against the Saints?
I’d say he damn well better.
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What's the best way to prepare falcon for a holiday feast?
Brined and baked?
Deep fried?
Smoked?
Scattered smothered and covered?
(sorry – couldn’t resist)
I just had a rap with Santa and we took us a little stroll
And all I want for Christmas is the Saints in the Super Bowl
It's pretty gamey
I’d rather the Falcons served you a tall glass of whoopass with a side of humble pie, myself.
(Seriously, though, fried.)
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but deep fried whoopass and deep fried pie sound delicious!!
you had me at fried
I just had a rap with Santa and we took us a little stroll
And all I want for Christmas is the Saints in the Super Bowl
by Hans Petersen on Dec 24, 2011 9:13 AM CST up reply actions
Dave
Seeing how there’s an Underground Atlanta, do you think there might be an Underground Saints fanbase in Atlanta thats putting the VOODOOTHATWEDO on The Falcons?
"Daddy, them cigarettes are gonna kill you". My aunts last words to my 96 year old grandpa before he fell out of bed and broke his neck reaching for a full pack.
In a city like Atlanta, I'd be more surprised if there wasn't
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There's actually at least one here on csc from Atlanta, though I don't remember who it is.
Whodat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Playoff berth is clnched, DC.
How will they ever stay pumped to play the Saints now?
I just had a rap with Santa and we took us a little stroll
And all I want for Christmas is the Saints in the Super Bowl
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