New Orleans Saints Offensive Player Grades @ Vikings
Despite a sloppy start that included alarming mistakes, laziness, lack of focus and penalties, the Saints scored 42 points. The offense is that good. To be able to overcome some of the glitches and put up a point total like that is amazing.
Granted, they didn't exactly play the best defense in the world, but I think the most encouraging thing we saw was that this was one of the more comprehensive wins the Saints have had as a team. Right now Brees is so good I'm not sure the Saints can be beaten. The Monday night affair against the Falcons will be a huge test, but at this point in the season the Saints have to feel extremely good about their chances at a No. 2 seed, and perhaps a run at another title.
On to the grades...
Saints vs Vikings coverage
Darren Sproles: B (3.14) Sproles was oustanding for the most part in the passing game, save a pivotal drop early that hurt the Saints badly by costing them an easy first down that would ultimately force them to punt. In the run game and return game, though, he was mostly mediocre. He struggled to find holes and break tackles. On screens, though, the Vikings were gashed by him. He finished with 8 carries for 33 yards, 5 catches for 79 yards and a touchdown, and averaged 25 yards per kick return and 15 yards per punt. That sounds better than it is, though, his special teams play was overall disappointing. His kickoff returns haven't been impressive for a while.
Pierre Thomas: A (3.07) He was always falling forward, never allowing the first tackler to bring him down, setting up his blockers perfectly, and criminally underutilized. When he's playing this well I really think the Saints should use him exclusively. That's not how they roll, though, I get it. He turned 2 screen receptions into 41 yards and he rushed 8 times for 44 yards and a touchdown. I think he should get the ball more. He's quietly having an excellent season. He was also exceptional in pass blocking and called to do so often.
Chris Ivory: B+ (2.67) He was somewhat one dimensional in his role, not surprisingly, but he ran the ball pretty well. He's start to round back into game shape. He finished with 74 yards on 18 carries.
Jed Collins: D (2.69) I'll give him his due- he had a 2 yard run on a 3rd and inches and he got another first down on a passing play that went for 12 yards. Unfortunately, that doesn't overshadow his recent penchant for grabbing a handful of jersey in blocking situations. This time he cost Meachem and the Saints a 40 yard touchdown reception as well as a 13 yard run by PT cruiser. As if Thomas got enough touches to spare as is without some of them getting wiped away by penalties. Weak. Korey Hall played at fullback a bit late in the game and I actually wasn't sure if that substitution was due to the score, or a benching due to the ridiculous amount of penalties Collins has gotten the past two weeks. This is his second straight D, by the way, so his previously solid GPA is getting destroyed.
Marques Colston: A (3.22) Other than a drop on a Chase Daniel pass, he was solid throughout and consistently moving the chains. The only thing missing was a touchdown. He finished with 8 catches for 91 yards. Solid blocking day too. He also drew a pass interference penalty in the end zone that gave the Saints the ball at the one and set up a touchdown.
Lance Moore: A (3.00) He finished with 5 catches for 91 yards and 2 touchdowns. His first touchdown was an outstanding catch where he really got up high to come down with it. For a little guy he's really got some serious leaping ability.
Robert Meachem: B (2.43) He was wide open twice deep and got a bit unlucky. The first was called back after he scored and the second was grossly underthrown and one hopped to him by Brees. Not his fault and he easily could have had a couple touchdowns. He finished with 2 catches for 22 yards and a reverse that went for 4 yards before he fearfully got out of bounds to avoid a hit. Not the first time.
Devery Henderson: C- (2.31) Once again a non factor in the offense. 1 catch for 4 yards.
Jimmy Graham: B (3.24) At times it really doesn't seem like he tries too hard. That's both maddening and impressive depending on which way you look at it. There is no question he's a man among boys out there when he wants to be. It almost comes to him too easy. He is impossible to stop with single coverage. He did have a critical fumble early that really hurt the team and he seemed too eager to try for a one handed grab at times. You can't deny his positive impact, though, yet again. 7 catches for 70 yards and a touchdown.
John Gilmore: A- (2.33) Time to get the big fella his due - he blocked well and he caught a two yard touchdown pass, the first of his season.
Jermon Bushrod: C+ (2.69) You look at Jared Allen's stat line: 2 tackles and one QB knock down, and you think to yourself "wow, Bushrod was awesome". He wasn't though. The main reason for Allen's struggles was Drew Brees continually stepping into a clean pocket. If a different quarterback plays for the Saints, like say Christian Ponder, there's a good chance Allen would have ended with at least 3 sacks. So Bushrod benefits from a quarterback with superhuman feel and a ridiculously quick release. While Allen did give Bushrod fits over the edge, give him credit for dealing with it with reckless abandon. Bushrod was flagged once for false start.
Carl Nicks: A- (2.74) He was dominant for the majority of the game. He was beat once on the interior on a play that turned into negative rushing yards, and he was guilty of a hold once, but other than that he was dominant in the trenches. His forceful run blocking caused major problems to the Vikings and his interior blocking was nothing short of stellar. A big part of the reason Brees enjoyed a clean pocket with Allen coming around the edge was Nicks' performance.
Brian De La Puente: F (2.42) He was flagged for a chop block that was declined, a 15 yard facemask and he snapped the ball out of the shotgun while Brees was calling an audible that caused a scary turnover. He can thank Brees for making that tackle, and the defense for getting a huge stop, because otherwise that was 7 points all on his own. He blocked well at times, but I have to fail him. Two personal fouls and a fumble that resembles the days of Aaron Brooks is unacceptable. He's got to clean up those mental errors because they have the power to kill his team and affect the outcome. He's got to be kicking himself for this performance, especially that snap. Playing with a reserve lineman all season finally came back to bite the Saints. Hopefully he can pull it together for the playoffs.
Jahri Evans: A (3.19) He was fantastic in run and pass blocking as he continues to build on his excellent season. As far as I'm concerned, Jahri Evans is a shoe in for the Pro Bowl. His pulling and blocking on screen passes was devastating to the Vikings. He was solid in all areas and physical in the trenches. Most impressive is how well he moves for a big man, especially after he came back from what looked like a knee injury.
Zach Strief: B (2.92) He looked banged up briefly, as did Nicks... so the Saints at different points had three linemen go down. Luckily all three of them returned, so hopefully they can use the extra day to heal up and get ready for the Falcons on Monday Night. I have a feeling the injury report might be extensive this week. He didn't always make a major difference but his pass blocking was largely solid and the only real negative was his stiff movement at times.
Pat McQuistan: B- (2.07) His size was useful off the edge, per usual.
My Offensive Player of the Game: Drew Brees
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Dagnabit, Juge!!
I was going to use that photo for my Hot Reads Review on Wednesday, but you beat me to it…
Here’s my caption:
“Good game.”
“Good game.”
“Nice hair.”
“You’re one to talk!”
“Who dat!?!”
“Skol!”
I just had a rap with Santa and we took us a little stroll
And all I want for Christmas is the Saints in the Super Bowl
Excellent Grades! And Brees definitely deserves an A+
I will say, Jed Collins is getting on my nerves with his dumb penalties.
I spent 8 years trying to reach him...and then another 7 trying to keep him locked up because I realized what was living behind that boy's eyes was purely and simply...Evil.
Dr. Sam Loomis Aka (Donald Pleasence)
Interesting Topic coming up on ESPN
Dirty Saints? I’ll keep you posted
I spent 8 years trying to reach him...and then another 7 trying to keep him locked up because I realized what was living behind that boy's eyes was purely and simply...Evil.
Dr. Sam Loomis Aka (Donald Pleasence)
Update
Adrian Peterson calling the Saints dirty. What a D Bag.
Still bitter about the NFCCG Adrian?
I spent 8 years trying to reach him...and then another 7 trying to keep him locked up because I realized what was living behind that boy's eyes was purely and simply...Evil.
Dr. Sam Loomis Aka (Donald Pleasence)
Oh, please.
They are going to make a whole story about AP’s pouting? What’s next? Is Berman going to give him a foot massage on live TV?
What a jerk. I no longer respect him
Especially when he made a promise last season that he would beat the Saints opening night.
Well Adrian, you failed 3 times in a row. What’s your excuse now?
I spent 8 years trying to reach him...and then another 7 trying to keep him locked up because I realized what was living behind that boy's eyes was purely and simply...Evil.
Dr. Sam Loomis Aka (Donald Pleasence)
The other story out of Minnesota
is Shiancoe accusing some of his teammates of not giving 100%. Let’s see which gets more pres…
Blah blah
is Shiancoe accusing some of his teammates of not giving 100%. Let’s see which gets more pres…
Seems to be the norm for any excuses there.
I spent 8 years trying to reach him...and then another 7 trying to keep him locked up because I realized what was living behind that boy's eyes was purely and simply...Evil.
Dr. Sam Loomis Aka (Donald Pleasence)
Let's hope it is the foot...
that is massaged
"I have had a perfectly wonderful evening, but this wasn't it." Groucho Marx
by BenDerDonDat on Dec 20, 2011 9:41 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Bwahahaha!!!
Rec’d!
I spent 8 years trying to reach him...and then another 7 trying to keep him locked up because I realized what was living behind that boy's eyes was purely and simply...Evil.
Dr. Sam Loomis Aka (Donald Pleasence)
I think DLP should get a D
on, what, 45 plays he did good. I agree the errors were inexcuseable. And if we had lost, he could get an F. But we won- bigtime. The offense was a juggernaut. He contributed positively on probably all but 3 plays. 3 critical mistakes, but he still deserves a passing grade. It wasn’t like he was De Sean Jacskon a few games ago who gave maybe 70 % effort.
Also, I hope we use Gilmore a few times a game- he has demonstrated he can catch, he’s a veteran, and I want other teams worrying about him and all our other weapons to the point where they just feel overwhelmed and incapable of covering all our guys. He should be able to get us 1st downs when we are 3rd and 4 and Graham is double teamed.
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Split it down the middle and call it an F+
Just because we have chiseled abs and stunning features, it doesn't mean that we too can't not die in a freak gasoline fight accident.
by Fat Punk Kicker on Dec 20, 2011 9:44 AM CST up reply actions
I think Juge was a little hard also, Really a F was alittle stiff
I’da given him a C—. Also Juge, you were a little hard on Sproles. I mean, come on, the guy had 232 all purpose yards.
Drew Brees....MVP Saint! Who Dat!!!
by cajuncommando58 on Dec 20, 2011 10:33 AM CST up reply actions
I think the face mask penalty DLP got was BS.....
I rewound the play and watched it several times in slow-mo and never saw a face mask. Anybody else notice that?
Our fat punk kicker, Garrett Hartley, missed a game-winner and we lost for the second week in a row - Scott Fujita in 2009
by Ragin Who Dat on Dec 20, 2011 11:28 AM CST up reply actions
I rewound the play and watched it several times in slow-mo and never saw a face mask.
Watch again. It’s the purple metal bracket extending from one side of the player’s helmet to the other.
"I don’t intend to draw any conclusions from any single game." -Brian Burke
"I will now attempt to exclude specific large amounts of TOP from the totals of winning teams, in order to prove that TOP doesn't contribute to winning." -Dr. Jeremy Arkes
i think that's the major strength of our offense
who’s gonna light it up? who knows? that’s why it’s so hard to game plan against the saints offense. i like the idea of making relatively unknown players a threat. this creates psychological problems for defenses.
gw game plans to shut down the opponents number 1 threat and that works effectively in our favor. when other teams try to do that.. they have problems because we have so many guys that will step up.
lovin’ it! who dat!
I wish the 44 Yd TD to Meach wasn't called back thanks to Jed
That was a thing a beauty
I spent 8 years trying to reach him...and then another 7 trying to keep him locked up because I realized what was living behind that boy's eyes was purely and simply...Evil.
Dr. Sam Loomis Aka (Donald Pleasence)
Top fullback prospects in the 2012 draft. We need to seriously consider drafting one in the middle rounds. They should have gone after Vonta Leach in free agency when he was available. I’m fine with developing our own guy. We just need to get off our a** es and do it. Ever since Karney was sent packing, lead blocking has been a weak point in this offense. And in truth, you need a top tier guy for pass protection also, as Graham is less than adequate in blocking at TE and none of the halfbacks we currently have are worth a cr** in that department. You’re never going to land the best of both worlds, unless you stick your neck out a little bit and draft one.
"I don’t intend to draw any conclusions from any single game." -Brian Burke
"I will now attempt to exclude specific large amounts of TOP from the totals of winning teams, in order to prove that TOP doesn't contribute to winning." -Dr. Jeremy Arkes
Goodness are your trying to start a riot?
Were you not here when the world almost ended when we kept 2 fullbacks?
Just because we have chiseled abs and stunning features, it doesn't mean that we too can't not die in a freak gasoline fight accident.
by Fat Punk Kicker on Dec 20, 2011 9:45 AM CST up reply actions
Defensive LB and DT first please.
Drew Brees....MVP Saint! Who Dat!!!
by cajuncommando58 on Dec 20, 2011 10:35 AM CST up reply actions
OLB I’m more inclined to agree with. I can’t see any late 2nd or 3rd round DT making the same impact a top tier FB, would his rookie season. The best of that pool is long gobbled up by then.
"I don’t intend to draw any conclusions from any single game." -Brian Burke
"I will now attempt to exclude specific large amounts of TOP from the totals of winning teams, in order to prove that TOP doesn't contribute to winning." -Dr. Jeremy Arkes
Not that I’ve seen enough of Wilson to know what we have in him. Regardless, we could use another.
"I don’t intend to draw any conclusions from any single game." -Brian Burke
"I will now attempt to exclude specific large amounts of TOP from the totals of winning teams, in order to prove that TOP doesn't contribute to winning." -Dr. Jeremy Arkes
Brees is Phenomenal.....
but let’s also credit the offensive line. They’re keeping him well protected and able to throw all those touchdowns.
The receivers also do a great job of catching not only the easy passes, but the difficult ones. The running backs are very good, too.
Actually, the Saints have a phenomenal offense!
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Drew Brees....MVP Saint! Who Dat!!!
by cajuncommando58 on Dec 20, 2011 11:37 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
That's Me!
In the spring and summer, I raise caterpillars myself to keep the wasps and other predators from eating them, then release the adults (the actual butterflies) back, to fly off and reproduce .
Then in fall and winter, I follow the Saints – odd combination of hobbies, huh?
I wish the 49’ers had lost last night – maybe they’ll lose this Sunday, and the Saints will beat those dastardly Falcons Monday night. Here’s hoping!
I can absolutely guarantee you the 49ers will not lose this coming Sunday.
But I will hope they’ll lose on Saturday. :)
Oops!
I didn’t know they were playing on Saturday – I don’t keep up with the other teams.
Anyway, go Saints, boo 49’ers!
by MissButterfly on Dec 20, 2011 5:44 PM CST up reply actions
dastardly
that’s a most excellent word choice
I just had a rap with Santa and we took us a little stroll
And all I want for Christmas is the Saints in the Super Bowl
by Hans Petersen on Dec 20, 2011 6:52 PM CST up reply actions
yeah, I don't see how anyone can complain about any players on our offense
we are leading the league in offense, we are one of only 3 teams (actually the only pla7off- bound team) who can hand the ball to D Sproles on 1st down and then on second down hand it to any other back and then start over because we have a 1st down (on average). Our pass/attempt to sack ratio is very good, we are setting records in the passing game, our 3 rbs have over 1600 yds combined with our top 2 rushers averaging 6.5 and 5.0 ypc respectively, somebody doin’ sumfin’ right.
and that’s all with a center that’s only played abput 10 games in the NFL.
If Pro is the opposite of Con, what is the opposite of Progress? Congress!
-Men's Restroom - House of Representatives, Washington, DC
4 rbs that is
If Pro is the opposite of Con, what is the opposite of Progress? Congress!
-Men's Restroom - House of Representatives, Washington, DC
I felt like Jarhead Allen had something to prove
after running his mouth. HE did nothing . NOTHING I TELL YA! I’m buying a round for our o-line even if DLP screwed the pup.
"Daddy, them cigarettes are gonna kill you". My aunts last words to my 96 year old grandpa before he fell out of bed and broke his neck reaching for a full pack.
The one time I thought he had a sure fire sack he got blocked in the back.
Couldn’t have happened to a nicer guy
Just because we have chiseled abs and stunning features, it doesn't mean that we too can't not die in a freak gasoline fight accident.
by Fat Punk Kicker on Dec 20, 2011 3:56 PM CST up reply actions
Dirty Saints!
"Daddy, them cigarettes are gonna kill you". My aunts last words to my 96 year old grandpa before he fell out of bed and broke his neck reaching for a full pack.
You graded Graham too much he's more like a C- this game
He sure seem to short arm a pass when he thought he was to get hit
He seemed lazy today like the Vikes should just let him catch it
I expect SP will take care of this problem immediatly
by mississippisaintsfan on Dec 20, 2011 1:53 PM CST reply actions

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