Uh Oh: A Quick Examination of Drew Brees' Performance Following Big Games

by MtnExile on Dec 22, 2011 3:59 PM CST

So, everyone wants to mong stats? I can mong stats, too.

I was idly wondering how Drew does after having monster games, and said to myself, "Fool, just look it up." So I did, and I wish I hadn't.

Just for fun, let's define "monster game" as pretty much what he had last week against Minnesota. Only five other games since 2006 fall into that category: 42-17 over Dallas in 2006; 51-29 over Green Bay in 2008; 48-27 over the Giants and 38-17 over New England in 2009; and 62-7 over Indianapolis this year. Yeah, uh-oh: on that last one, we all remember what happened the next game. And sure, it wasn't all Drew's fault...not even nearly. Still...

In those five monster games, Drew had passer ratings of 140.8, 157.5, 156.8, 158.3 (perfect), and 144.9. All were blowout wins. The following weeks, things didn't go so well.

Drew followed up his victory over the Cowboys with a 59.9 rating in a 10-16 home loss against the Redskins. He followed up the 2008 shellacking of the Packers with a 60.2 bomb in a loss (in the rain) at Tampa. His giant night against the Giants was followed by the incredible comeback victory against Miami...when his passer rating was only 58.9 (he threw three picks). He followed up his perfect game against the Patriots with a pretty good (102.3) performance against Washington (another improbable victory). And finally, this year, after destroying the hapless Colts, he played with very little hap against the Rams and posted a mere 73.0 rating in the loss.

All in all, in the week following a monster game, Drew's average looks like this: 42 attempts, 27 completions, 61.5 completion percentage, 315 yards, 1 touchdown, 2 interceptions, 73.7 passer rating. That's almost exactly his stat line from St. Louis. The game against the Rams was not an aberration...it's what you should expect from Brees the week after a "monster" game.

I hate to be the one to bring this up, I really do. And I hope Drew can break the pattern. But I'm now officially worried. I don't think we can win against the Falcons if Drew Brees plays like Christian Ponder (season passer rating, 72.3).

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I don't know what mong means even with google

how Drew does after having monster games

I don’t believe that voodoo s***. Where are the statistic guys with their “causation” theorems and whatever?

Merry Christmas, M-E. And I only say that because I know you celebrate it.

Crabalocker fishwife

by stujo4 on Dec 22, 2011 4:14 PM CST reply actions

I don’t think we can win against the Falcons

You’re on the List. Happy Boxing Day!

Crabalocker fishwife

by stujo4 on Dec 22, 2011 4:18 PM CST reply actions

if Drew Brees plays like Christian Ponder

FIFY.

And monging stats is what a statmonger does.

"Mercedes Numbah One."
--unidentified Khmer Rouge punk Saints fan

by MtnExile on Dec 22, 2011 4:36 PM CST up reply actions

Mr Monger

What’s our record at home this season?

What’s our record against the Falcons this season?

It’s not the size of your TOP, it’s how you use it!
Want scientific proof? Read this paper by Dr. Jeremy Arkes.

by Dan Kelly on Dec 22, 2011 5:01 PM CST up reply actions

What’s the air-speed velocity [sic] of an unladen swallow?

"Mercedes Numbah One."
--unidentified Khmer Rouge punk Saints fan

by MtnExile on Dec 22, 2011 6:11 PM CST up reply actions

which type?

barn swallow
red-rumped swallow
welcome swallow
mangrove swallow
cliff swallow
greater striped swallow
white-throated blue swallow
etc.

And shepherds we shall be, for thee my Lord for thee, Power hath descended forth from thy hand, that our feet may swiftly carry out thy command, we shall flow a river forth to thee, and teeming with souls shall it ever be. In nomine patris, et filii, et spiritus sancti.

by DrWhoDat on Dec 22, 2011 6:26 PM CST up reply actions

I think we're in danger of taking a drastic downhill turn with this string.

-He filled up the whole silo in just two days?
-Well, I helped.

by Doc Boudin on Dec 22, 2011 6:31 PM CST up reply actions

"sir.. downhill turn accomplished.. sir"

by the 9th plague on Dec 23, 2011 9:42 AM CST up reply actions

Moar types

Brunette swallow
Blonde swallow
Red-head swallow

Drew Brees....MVP Saint! Who Dat!!!

by cajuncommando58 on Dec 23, 2011 9:00 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs

wouldn't go as far as: any swallow is a good swallow.. but.. you right.. all good types, there..

by the 9th plague on Dec 23, 2011 9:35 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs

I think it's either African of European

"How much you wanna make a bet I can throw a football over them mountains?"

by jack_casse on Dec 23, 2011 9:24 AM CST up reply actions

Come on, guys, you gotta get the quote right?

What do you mean, African or European?

by FriarBob on Dec 23, 2011 8:19 AM CST up reply actions

A while back I asked where you had gone to.

Now, I wonder why. I kid kinda, but man can you post anything dyer.

Drew Brees....MVP Saint! Who Dat!!!

by cajuncommando58 on Dec 22, 2011 4:28 PM CST reply actions

He does dye his comments rather darkly.

Crabalocker fishwife

by stujo4 on Dec 22, 2011 4:34 PM CST up reply actions

i thought he dyed his roots.

I don't miss the alcohol as much as I miss having the built in reason on why I'm nekkid in public.

by maybetoday on Dec 27, 2011 1:50 AM CST up reply actions

You can use stats to scare yourself all you want... #wegotthis!!

re: history after big games…

2 losses, 2 wins, and an aberration with horrible blocking.

(The only thing that should scare you about the Rams game is that the offensive play-caller didn’t adjust the blocking when he saw we were getting beat like a mule. That was stupid, and unfortunately, that could happen again – ego and all that s***… but this team is way better than the team that lost to the Rams.)

It’s not the size of your TOP, it’s how you use it!
Want scientific proof? Read this paper by Dr. Jeremy Arkes.

by Dan Kelly on Dec 22, 2011 5:00 PM CST reply actions

All in all, in the week following a monster game, Drew’s average looks like this: 315 yards

That’s all I need to hear. Record broken.

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by Dave Cariello on Dec 22, 2011 5:52 PM CST reply actions 1 recs

I feel you Dave.....

But I need to hear a win MORE than the record broken. The record can come next week….

Team first, then individuals

Eat, drink, and be merry, for tomorrow we die!
WHO DAT?!
TWO DAT!!

by LA_No1_SaintFan on Dec 23, 2011 11:51 AM CST up reply actions

yep,

spank you dave

I don't miss the alcohol as much as I miss having the built in reason on why I'm nekkid in public.

by maybetoday on Dec 27, 2011 1:50 AM CST up reply actions

If this Saints offense and defense aren't amped up for this game then it will be

a close win, if they are, holy sweetness a beating with a rubber hose!

Fee-fi-fo-fum,
I smell the blood of an Englishman,
Be he alive, or be he dead
I'll grind his bones to make my bread

by jonrockets on Dec 22, 2011 6:09 PM CST reply actions

BTW whats the injury report, haven't heard

Fee-fi-fo-fum,
I smell the blood of an Englishman,
Be he alive, or be he dead
I'll grind his bones to make my bread

by jonrockets on Dec 22, 2011 6:10 PM CST reply actions

This is what I got

Dec. 22, 2011 3:17 p.m. – by Larry Holder – Saints injury report for Thursday
Didn’t practice Thursday: RB Mark Ingram (toe), LB Jonathan Vilma (knee), G Jahri Evans (knee), DT Sedrick Ellis (hamstring); Limited: LB Jonathan Casillas (knee), LB Ramon Humber (knee), DT Aubrayo Franklin (knee). Saints RapidReports

"We, in our building, didn't feel like we needed to have Reggie Bush to have a successful offense. We've had lots of games over the last five years where Reggie was unavailable. And yet, we've been able to move the ball, score points and win games at the same rate as when we did have Reggie." -- Saints General Manager Mickey Loomis

by halo2saints on Dec 23, 2011 12:17 AM CST up reply actions

Boo this man

In Breesus' name we play

by Breesus Christ Superstar on Dec 22, 2011 6:38 PM CST via mobile reply actions 3 recs

don't kill the messenger

even if he is a monger

I just had a rap with Santa and we took us a little stroll
And all I want for Christmas is the Saints in the Super Bowl

by Hans Petersen on Dec 22, 2011 6:56 PM CST up reply actions

But if we let this one get away,

The Monger Horde will come sweeping across the Steppes, enslaving our children and taking our women! Well, maybe gainfully employing our children as data entry specialists while striking out with our wives. Nonetheless, they must be stopped!!

-He filled up the whole silo in just two days?
-Well, I helped.

by Doc Boudin on Dec 22, 2011 7:05 PM CST up reply actions

yeah, but we don't get revenge until the young barbarian grows up and becomes a warrior-man

let’s just hide for now

I just had a rap with Santa and we took us a little stroll
And all I want for Christmas is the Saints in the Super Bowl

by Hans Petersen on Dec 22, 2011 7:07 PM CST up reply actions

FIFY

The Mongero Horde will come sweeping across the Steppes, enslaving our children and taking our women! Well, maybe gainfully employing our children as ~~data entry specialists~~ school janitors

by Ship on Dec 23, 2011 1:10 PM CST up reply actions

Mongo Like Ship!!

-He filled up the whole silo in just two days?
-Well, I helped.

by Doc Boudin on Dec 23, 2011 2:35 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs

Ha!

I just had a rap with Santa and we took us a little stroll
And all I want for Christmas is the Saints in the Super Bowl

by Hans Petersen on Dec 23, 2011 2:38 PM CST up reply actions

Actually, that's what we named the dog.

Big black lab, real sweet, good with the kids, not too smart. Mongeaux Lloyd.

-He filled up the whole silo in just two days?
-Well, I helped.

by Doc Boudin on Dec 23, 2011 2:51 PM CST up reply actions

The hard part was inventing the candygram.

-Lombardi was wrong...it's the internet, not fatigue that makes cowards of us all. But then again, what do you expect. Not like the guy could see the future.

by jeff.l.b on Dec 23, 2011 2:55 PM CST up reply actions

Funny, you've been paying attention, haven't you?

You think you know, and you don't know, and you never, ever, will.-Jim Mora Sr.
I understand ....nothing.-Michael Scott
The Future is Unwritten.-Joe Strummer
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win."-Mahatma Gandhi

by metryman on Dec 23, 2011 3:29 PM CST up reply actions

but he’s being more than a STATmonger… he’s being a FEARmonger… one of the worst kind of mongers.

Booooooooo!!!

It’s not the size of your TOP, it’s how you use it!
Want scientific proof? Read this paper by Dr. Jeremy Arkes.

by Dan Kelly on Dec 22, 2011 7:51 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs

Obviously, monging is alive and well on CSC.

Rec your “Booooooo!!!” and raise you a “Bleeeeeah!!!.”

Friends don't let friends Tweet.

by Just 'Nother Day on Dec 22, 2011 7:59 PM CST up reply actions

HEY DAVE!

How come everytime I “rec” something it comes up a “flag?” Is anyone else having this problem?

I don’t want people to dislike me.

I’m really a likeable guy.

Really.

No s… .

Friends don't let friends Tweet.

by Just 'Nother Day on Dec 22, 2011 8:02 PM CST up reply actions

Ok. Never mind. It comes up "rec" when I refresh.

Friends don't let friends Tweet.

by Just 'Nother Day on Dec 22, 2011 8:04 PM CST up reply actions

stop talking to yourself.

its kinda weird when i i realize im cant wait for your reply….to yourself.

I don't miss the alcohol as much as I miss having the built in reason on why I'm nekkid in public.

by maybetoday on Dec 27, 2011 1:53 AM CST up reply actions

im = i

I don't miss the alcohol as much as I miss having the built in reason on why I'm nekkid in public.

by maybetoday on Dec 27, 2011 1:53 AM CST up reply actions

It throws the flag up there

In case you made a mistake and need to change it. I think it does the same if you flag someone and you also get a message box to describe the issue.

Drew Brees....MVP Saint! Who Dat!!!

by cajuncommando58 on Dec 23, 2011 9:04 AM CST up reply actions

If he monged fear about PRob though, that'd be all right.

He only comes out when I drink my gin

by stujo4 on Dec 22, 2011 8:39 PM CST up reply actions

and..

if he monged about a certain QB being finished.. would it be all right..?

(hate sarcastic font.. what’s the point on being sarcastic, if you gonna telegraph it..)

by the 9th plague on Dec 23, 2011 9:57 AM CST up reply actions

Not finished, but suspected decline is permissible.

He only comes out when I drink my gin

by stujo4 on Dec 23, 2011 10:17 AM CST up reply actions

new category

suspected decline

I just had a rap with Santa and we took us a little stroll
And all I want for Christmas is the Saints in the Super Bowl

by Hans Petersen on Dec 23, 2011 10:20 AM CST up reply actions

maybe subject of future discussion.. but seriously..

what would it take to put that one to bed..?

1. multi-record setting year.. (yes’ um)
2. strong post season success.. (TBD)
3. superbowl.. (TBD)

by the 9th plague on Dec 23, 2011 10:36 AM CST up reply actions

The stopping of the natural aging process?

-Lombardi was wrong...it's the internet, not fatigue that makes cowards of us all. But then again, what do you expect. Not like the guy could see the future.

by jeff.l.b on Dec 23, 2011 10:37 AM CST up reply actions

that was not the general vibe, jeff.. at the time of the pre-season discussions..

coming of a sub-par year.. many thought he was on his way out.. almost career ending.. the expression “steep decline” was frequently used.. albeit jokingly, most of the time.. but i bet many of us wouldn’t pass a lie detector test on our inner confidence about him..
obviously, time will take everything away.. but in time.. not this season..

by the 9th plague on Dec 23, 2011 10:53 AM CST up reply actions

Actually you’re taking tons of things out of context and mixing them with others. The term steep decline was never used in regards to Brees. That was only used to talk about the Panthers from Stu’s point of view. The view on Brees was “Long slow Decline”. I still stand by that view as I have always backed it with my feeling being in regard to physical only. Numerous times, however, I did state he could over come those for a time with the greater mental acuity that comes with age, but eventually the physical becomes to great eventually. People give Stu crap for the steep decline…but it has ALWAYS been out of context and never once applied to Brees. People frankly never cared to correct themselves simply for the fact they enjoyed arguing, especially with Stu.

-Lombardi was wrong...it's the internet, not fatigue that makes cowards of us all. But then again, what do you expect. Not like the guy could see the future.

by jeff.l.b on Dec 23, 2011 11:13 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs

Happy Boxing Day, jeff.

He only comes out when I drink my gin

by stujo4 on Dec 23, 2011 11:40 AM CST up reply actions

And a happy New Years to you, Stu.

-Lombardi was wrong...it's the internet, not fatigue that makes cowards of us all. But then again, what do you expect. Not like the guy could see the future.

by jeff.l.b on Dec 23, 2011 12:00 PM CST up reply actions

happy drew day to both of you

I don't miss the alcohol as much as I miss having the built in reason on why I'm nekkid in public.

by maybetoday on Dec 27, 2011 1:55 AM CST up reply actions

Actually, the ‘all of us are in decline because we are all aging’ is the cop-out you and Stu sidestepped to once Brees began having the best year of his career.
Happy Festivus Jeff and Stu.

In Breesus' name we play

by Breesus Christ Superstar on Dec 23, 2011 7:02 PM CST up reply actions

Stu sidestepped

Holy crap. I mea culpa’d as much as I possibly could. Hardly a “sidestep”. How many “I was wrong” does it take, BCS?

No need to respond, I know the answer. Make a nice fire with your coal and switches.

Uppers and downers
Either way, blood flows

by stujo4 on Dec 23, 2011 10:12 PM CST up reply actions

You are forgiven my son.
Still waiting for Jeff to acknowledge the reality that is smacking him in the face…

In Breesus' name we play

by Breesus Christ Superstar on Dec 26, 2011 11:04 AM CST up reply actions

and..

the plague holds stujo personally responsible for the monging..

(there is that font again)

no.. really.. if anything he was the 1st one to have the b@!!s to even put those things in writing.. even though many probably were having their doubts & fears..

by the 9th plague on Dec 23, 2011 11:01 AM CST up reply actions

..our doubts & fears..

by the 9th plague on Dec 23, 2011 11:03 AM CST up reply actions

Frenchie has been calling it since I’ve known him. “overthrown”. Merry December Solstice, 9th. The days are getting longer.

He only comes out when I drink my gin

by stujo4 on Dec 23, 2011 11:41 AM CST up reply actions

Sorry, it was “underthrown”. Due to weak arm. But Brees has been hitting the weight room hard in the last year or two. Now it’s “overthrown”.

He only comes out when I drink my gin

by stujo4 on Dec 23, 2011 11:42 AM CST up reply actions

refreshing that you are embracing us pagans in this season..

about FF.. don’t know much about him.. he usually drops in with a few one-liners that i mostly disagree with..
stereotypical preconceptions for athletes are disproved all the time..
i have said this before.. brees is not perfect.. but he is pretty good..
happy solstice to you, merry christmas, happy hanukka, prosperous year of the rat (which animal era are we in..?)
or whichever other may apply to your beliefs..

by the 9th plague on Dec 23, 2011 1:18 PM CST up reply actions

stereotypical preconceptions for athletes are disproved all the time..

Except when they’re true.

Uppers and downers
Either way, blood flows

by stujo4 on Dec 23, 2011 2:42 PM CST up reply actions

Aging and declining are not synonymous. Ultimately they will intersect. For now, Drew is maturing, reaching a new peak of performance, basically the opposite of decline.

In Breesus' name we play

by Breesus Christ Superstar on Dec 23, 2011 6:59 PM CST up reply actions

For now, Drew is maturing,

So is his hairline. Shorter of breath and one day closer to death.

Uppers and downers
Either way, blood flows

by stujo4 on Dec 23, 2011 10:13 PM CST up reply actions

Surely one of the greatest album of all time.

My favourite lullaby…

Repeat? Run it!

by FrenchFreak on Dec 23, 2011 11:23 PM CST up reply actions

we don't want to kill him..

just tie him up to a stick on championship square with a sign.. don’t be a monger like this guy..

(angered indigent villager in the background: “kill him..”)
(mob of farmers and such echoing: “kill him.. burn him aliiiiiive..”)

by the 9th plague on Dec 23, 2011 9:26 AM CST up reply actions

Am I missing something?

Fee-fi-fo-fum,
I smell the blood of an Englishman,
Be he alive, or be he dead
I'll grind his bones to make my bread

by jonrockets on Dec 22, 2011 8:04 PM CST up reply actions

nice reference

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by Dave Cariello on Dec 22, 2011 8:04 PM CST up reply actions

Dave for a nice guy, yer such a ......

Fee-fi-fo-fum,
I smell the blood of an Englishman,
Be he alive, or be he dead
I'll grind his bones to make my bread

by jonrockets on Dec 22, 2011 8:08 PM CST up reply actions

Is Dave Cariello gonna have to choke a bitch?

-He filled up the whole silo in just two days?
-Well, I helped.

by Doc Boudin on Dec 22, 2011 8:22 PM CST up reply actions

No, god no, uh seriosuly am I missing something?

Fee-fi-fo-fum,
I smell the blood of an Englishman,
Be he alive, or be he dead
I'll grind his bones to make my bread

by jonrockets on Dec 22, 2011 8:33 PM CST up reply actions

Might I recommend a new avatar?

LOL (of course)

Friends don't let friends Tweet.

by Just 'Nother Day on Dec 22, 2011 8:39 PM CST up reply actions

Dave Chapelle references, at least originally.

From Half-Baked and from his show, respectively. Although, technically, the last line was a quote from Wayne Brady.

-He filled up the whole silo in just two days?
-Well, I helped.

by Doc Boudin on Dec 22, 2011 8:39 PM CST up reply actions

Wish I was,

as savvy on the post page, had some good pics but… loser.

Fee-fi-fo-fum,
I smell the blood of an Englishman,
Be he alive, or be he dead
I'll grind his bones to make my bread

by jonrockets on Dec 22, 2011 8:42 PM CST up reply actions

Buck up, Jon.

Not everybody can be as cool as a bunch of dudes/dudettes who spend all their time on football websites or watching You Tube.

-He filled up the whole silo in just two days?
-Well, I helped.

by Doc Boudin on Dec 22, 2011 8:44 PM CST up reply actions

thanks for the medicine doc

Fee-fi-fo-fum,
I smell the blood of an Englishman,
Be he alive, or be he dead
I'll grind his bones to make my bread

by jonrockets on Dec 22, 2011 8:46 PM CST up reply actions

You'll have my bill shortly.

-He filled up the whole silo in just two days?
-Well, I helped.

by Doc Boudin on Dec 22, 2011 8:47 PM CST up reply actions

Easy Dr. Kevorkian.

Fee-fi-fo-fum,
I smell the blood of an Englishman,
Be he alive, or be he dead
I'll grind his bones to make my bread

by jonrockets on Dec 22, 2011 8:52 PM CST up reply actions

If I was Doc K.,

I would have gotten my money up front.

-He filled up the whole silo in just two days?
-Well, I helped.

by Doc Boudin on Dec 22, 2011 9:13 PM CST up reply actions

Ha!

Well played.

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by Dave Cariello on Dec 22, 2011 9:27 PM CST up reply actions

whos Dave Chapelle?

Fee-fi-fo-fum,
I smell the blood of an Englishman,
Be he alive, or be he dead
I'll grind his bones to make my bread

by jonrockets on Dec 22, 2011 8:43 PM CST up reply actions

i think he runs this site.

he’s the white goofy guy with the cute girl holding up the sign.

I don't miss the alcohol as much as I miss having the built in reason on why I'm nekkid in public.

by maybetoday on Dec 27, 2011 1:59 AM CST up reply actions

BOOOOOOOOOO!

-He filled up the whole silo in just two days?
-Well, I helped.

by Doc Boudin on Dec 22, 2011 8:55 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs

what about Ryan? What is his record like in crucial games?

Like last year’s playoff game? Like check out his stats. I don’t think he has really ever had a big game like this one except for last year in the playoffs. Anything close to a big game- I don’t think his stats are great. Gonzalez and White are bad also statistically in big games.

"We've established the run; we've established the pass. Now all we have to establish is another championship!"

by Philinwood on Dec 22, 2011 7:07 PM CST reply actions

They don’t call him Matty Ice for nothing.

He only comes out when I drink my gin

by stujo4 on Dec 22, 2011 8:41 PM CST up reply actions

Actually they do call him that for nothing

In Breesus' name we play

by Breesus Christ Superstar on Dec 22, 2011 9:33 PM CST via mobile up reply actions 4 recs

Aaahahahahaha

"In fact, Sterger claims that, in one of the photos Favre allegedly sent her, he's masturbating — while wearing a pair of Crocs"

by J of the F on Dec 23, 2011 4:34 AM CST up reply actions

he has been ice cold in the playoffs..

but i’m thinking that wasn’t the intent on the nick..

by the 9th plague on Dec 23, 2011 9:38 AM CST up reply actions

So if does well on Boxing Day night, he’ll just be “lucky”. Got it.

He only comes out when I drink my gin

by stujo4 on Dec 23, 2011 10:18 AM CST up reply actions

he got to be competitively good fairly quick.. will concede..

but he was, maybe over-glorified by his fan base.. maybe a case of QB jealousy within the division.. certainly the body of work is not there..
but he could do well on that night.. he is not a bad player.. just over rated..

by the 9th plague on Dec 23, 2011 10:43 AM CST up reply actions

+1

I can rec from the Android app

It’s not the size of your TOP, it’s how you use it!
Want scientific proof? Read this paper by Dr. Jeremy Arkes.

by Dan Kelly on Dec 24, 2011 2:54 PM CST via Android app up reply actions

we

call him crushed ice ©

Drew Brees....MVP Saint! Who Dat!!!

by cajuncommando58 on Dec 23, 2011 9:06 AM CST up reply actions

reminds me of a hank goldberg off-the-wall, hidden trend..

that only he could unveil..
brees’ record against atl. – very strong.. not that it would carry over to this particular junction.. that’s what does not weigh into a game like this, imo.. that’s why i never listen to those bookie-like prognosticators.. vegas line says 6.5.. so what..? accuscore says 77%.. so what..? 90% of the sports picks are with the saints.. so what..?
does anybody believe in any of those “experts” picks..?
i just know we putting 40 up on dat board..

by the 9th plague on Dec 22, 2011 7:08 PM CST reply actions

how about checking Drew Brees' QBR on MNF ?

"We've established the run; we've established the pass. Now all we have to establish is another championship!"

by Philinwood on Dec 22, 2011 7:24 PM CST reply actions

MNF vs. the Falcons

For the Division crown. Throw all stats and trends out the window and get ready for a hell of a game…..and an excellent Christmas present

Peyton, I can eat Oreos faster than you!!!!

by mknkachow on Dec 22, 2011 7:40 PM CST reply actions

yeah but its the dirty birds

a 12 year old reggie ball could throw for 600 yards and 9 touchdowns in a half against them

by VT89 on Dec 22, 2011 7:46 PM CST reply actions

Fortunately, my friend, your theory is not supported here. Why?

I wouldn’t exactly call beating the crap out of the minniesoda viqueens a “monster” game. Not hard to complete passes when the defensive secondary is playing paper, rock, scissors to choose who will get beat . . . while the ball is in the air.

Remember when the previous viqueens quarterback (who’s name shall not be mentioned) practiced with a high school football team to “stay sharp?”

The Drewster is gonna’ be just fine.

Roses and lollypops. Lollypops and roses.

Etc.

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by Just 'Nother Day on Dec 22, 2011 7:57 PM CST reply actions 1 recs

favre you

dont start getting all “stats” on me damn it. you are one of my few fellow “we clicked our heels, wore our black and gold ______, drank 3 shots, cut the head off a something” our team will win because we love them…………………sheeesh

I don't miss the alcohol as much as I miss having the built in reason on why I'm nekkid in public.

by maybetoday on Dec 27, 2011 2:02 AM CST up reply actions

Why was 2009 vs Lions not included as a "monster" game?

or 2007 vs SF?

Because the games that followed didn’t fit your theory?

Kansas City Royals: your 2006 and 2007 NL Central champions!

by mazoboom on Dec 22, 2011 8:31 PM CST reply actions

Drew's passer rating for each of the games mentioned in the post, and the two you just threw out:

vs. San Fran – 136.8
vs Dallas – 140.8
vs. Packers – 157.5
vs. Lions – 137.0
vs Giants – 156.8
vs. Patriots – 158.3
vs. Colts – 144.9
vs. Vikings – 149.2

Which two don’t belong?

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by Dave Cariello on Dec 22, 2011 9:36 PM CST up reply actions

Fair point

Would have been nice to see a definition of “monster game” in the original post. If it’s a rating of 140 or above, then fine. Though I can’t see too much difference from 137 and 140.8, especially when talking about something as goofy as passer rating.

In any case, I don’t think it’s particularly a given that a bad game must follow a great game.

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by mazoboom on Dec 22, 2011 10:10 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs

Would have been nice to see a definition of “monster game” in the original post.

I agree.

In any case, I don’t think it’s particularly a given that a bad game must follow a great game.

Agree again.

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by Dave Cariello on Dec 22, 2011 10:13 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs

just an interesting correlation to throw out for everyone's edification

thanks, M-E.

I bet if we looked hard enough, we could find many more positive/negative stat points to “mong” that would correlate to either victory or defeat for the upcoming game…

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And all I want for Christmas is the Saints in the Super Bowl

by Hans Petersen on Dec 23, 2011 8:54 AM CST up reply actions

that's why i find it ridiculous when some prognosticators..

dig up those mystery stats to establish an alleged trend..
i believe that handicapping games is a very intuitive art with the stats to fall back, but mostly with gut, more intangible elements.. of course the tactical elements of dissecting a team and breaking down their apparent strengths/weaknesses, plays into it..
unfortunately, nothing will convince exile that it was just coincidental and his mongarama play no part in it, if the saints lay an egg, monday..

by the 9th plague on Dec 23, 2011 9:19 AM CST up reply actions

they're trying to find rationale for something that defies any rational rationale...

predictions of the future

I just had a rap with Santa and we took us a little stroll
And all I want for Christmas is the Saints in the Super Bowl

by Hans Petersen on Dec 23, 2011 9:39 AM CST up reply actions

little too subjectively rigid to set the threshold at 140..

when you watching the games you often don’t think about the OBR.. but you do recognize when a guy is in a zone.. as such more modest outputs in QBR like the houston, giants (this year) detroit.. could qualify as mini-monsters..
most times it will take a total team domination with turnovers, suffocating defense, even some good run plays, to get to the level of blow out..
speaking strictly about brees’ performance.. imo, he does mini-monster or semi-beast about 80% of the time.. with the occasional off-the-hook game & very rare stinker one..

by the 9th plague on Dec 23, 2011 6:21 AM CST up reply actions

kinda like the Brett Favre cold-weather winning percentage stat that wold get thrown out every December

first it was 32 and below, then 40 and below, etc…

I just had a rap with Santa and we took us a little stroll
And all I want for Christmas is the Saints in the Super Bowl

by Hans Petersen on Dec 23, 2011 8:55 AM CST up reply actions

He's talking about the games following

Not supporting Mtn Exile’s theory that Drew follows good with bad. The better theory that holds up is Drew usually follows a bad game with a good game.

Drew Brees....MVP Saint! Who Dat!!!

by cajuncommando58 on Dec 23, 2011 9:10 AM CST up reply actions

Maybe we had bad TOP those two games.............

Enter the flying dogs………

by Ship on Dec 23, 2011 1:17 PM CST up reply actions

/adjusts infrared sight.. cocks rifle.. scans the skies for the bastards..

by the 9th plague on Dec 23, 2011 1:23 PM CST up reply actions

What was the TOP and offensive balance in those monster games?

Don’t answer that…

It’s not the size of your TOP, it’s how you use it!
Want scientific proof? Read this paper by Dr. Jeremy Arkes.

by Dan Kelly on Dec 24, 2011 2:58 PM CST via Android app up reply actions

Another fun stat:

The Saints are 4-0 against the Falcons on MNF since Payton and Brees came to town, with 2 games won at both stadiums.

by mattxlegend on Dec 22, 2011 10:46 PM CST reply actions 2 recs

I like this stat better

by Saintsfan75 on Dec 23, 2011 4:17 AM CST up reply actions

Typically, the Saints get up for a nationally televised game as well as any team in the league.

None of these 5 “lackluster” performances by Brees following “monster” games come close to being of the importance of the up-coming Falcons game. The loss to Washington following the strong performance over Dallas in ’06 is the only one that even comes close.

The two games in the ’09 season (against Miami and Washington) were important from the standpoint of maintaining a perfect record more than being “most win” games at the time they were played…. and, they were still wins. In fact, the comeback win over Miami may be one of the best team performances in recent memory.

In 2008, the Saints lost half their games anyway. So, a 3 point loss to Tampa in the rain being the result of Brees having had a great game against Green Bay the prior week is no better of a predicting factor than flipping a coin.

The game against the Rams this year had “trap game” stamped all over it. The Saints made the mistake of thinking all they needed to do was to show up. Neither team will lose Monday night as the result of being over-confident.

I hope Drew can break the pattern. But I’m now officially worried.

Not only am I not worried, I can’t even find a pattern to be worried about.

by Drew-Dat on Dec 23, 2011 1:18 PM CST up reply actions

Seriously.

I can’t believe this thing got front paged.

by mattxlegend on Dec 23, 2011 1:54 PM CST up reply actions

+1

Wish I could rec from the Android app.

It’s not the size of your TOP, it’s how you use it!
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by Dan Kelly on Dec 24, 2011 3:04 PM CST via Android app up reply actions

Ugly Reading

Go to Falcoholic fan page, where those dirty birds are making some bold, cross the line remarks on how they intend to stop our Beloved “Who Dats”. This is our home and the SAINTS will rule the Day! That is my Christmas Wish.

by StephenC on Dec 23, 2011 4:30 AM CST reply actions

Come on man....................

I think too much is being made of this “Game after” situation. First of…….Drew knows whats at stake here. He has his sights on a perticular goal. The whole team knows whats at stake and will be wide open and full throttle for Atlanta. The most impressive stat is the win /loss record in night / National Televised games and I dont see this being any different. The man (Drew) shines when the spotlight is on him and the whole team responds. The only thing that concerns me is the way we play Atlanta……..Playing not to lose (close game and win in the final minutes) as opposed to playing to win ( Blow out). I would like for them to play like they did against the Giants and take control early and keep the pedal down. I see three goals in this game that sets it apart from all others this season…………..

Drews passing record, NFC South Champions, and possible #2 seed in the playoffs. A statement can be made in the NFC with a win Monday night and I just dont see the team or the fans allowing anything other than a win against Atlanta. Ther is just too much at stake to not play their best game of the season Monday night. I am looking forward to it and feel very confident that it WILL get done. Merry Christmas to all CSC patrons………….

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by saint-sly on Dec 23, 2011 8:33 AM CST reply actions

and I just have to say, M-E

I don’t believe you actually ever “idly wonder” – idle thoughts are the Devil’s playthings, I think

I just had a rap with Santa and we took us a little stroll
And all I want for Christmas is the Saints in the Super Bowl

by Hans Petersen on Dec 23, 2011 9:05 AM CST reply actions

This has been fun

Now I know what it must be like to be coldpizza.

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by MtnExile on Dec 23, 2011 9:09 AM CST reply actions

I feel ya

Im concerned about a let-down too. It’s human nature. I’m concerned all of this renewed MVP talk will be a distraction to him.

But, the saving grace is that you just jinxed it with this post. Or anti-jinxed it. Or something.

Good to hear from ya…

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by Hollywoo! on Dec 23, 2011 9:20 AM CST via mobile up reply actions

Cold Mountain

is your new name

I just had a rap with Santa and we took us a little stroll
And all I want for Christmas is the Saints in the Super Bowl

by Hans Petersen on Dec 23, 2011 9:40 AM CST up reply actions

what's the opposite of exile..?

never mind.. cause you ain’t getting it..

by the 9th plague on Dec 23, 2011 9:45 AM CST up reply actions

Cold Gregarious Crowd-Lover?

Cold Anti-hermit?

Cold Repatriate?

am I getting warmer?

I just had a rap with Santa and we took us a little stroll
And all I want for Christmas is the Saints in the Super Bowl

by Hans Petersen on Dec 23, 2011 9:57 AM CST up reply actions

repatriate.. is what i was thinking..

& i meant exile is not getting repatriation papers from the plague..

by the 9th plague on Dec 23, 2011 10:02 AM CST up reply actions

oh, gotcha

and papers? M-E don’t need no steenkin papers.

I just had a rap with Santa and we took us a little stroll
And all I want for Christmas is the Saints in the Super Bowl

by Hans Petersen on Dec 23, 2011 10:09 AM CST up reply actions

Me neither

M-E don’t need no steenkin papers.

Least ways I don’t need them anymore. Maybe when I retire and don’t have to worry about a DT.

Drew Brees....MVP Saint! Who Dat!!!

by cajuncommando58 on Dec 23, 2011 10:11 AM CST up reply actions

do you mean a defensive tackle, Chad?

I think I’m missing the boat here

I just had a rap with Santa and we took us a little stroll
And all I want for Christmas is the Saints in the Super Bowl

by Hans Petersen on Dec 23, 2011 10:21 AM CST up reply actions

da both of y'all lost me..

what papers are y’all talking about..? starts with a z..?

by the 9th plague on Dec 23, 2011 10:28 AM CST up reply actions

That's what I used to buy

Drew Brees....MVP Saint! Who Dat!!!

by cajuncommando58 on Dec 23, 2011 10:32 AM CST up reply actions

Drew Brees....MVP Saint! Who Dat!!!

by cajuncommando58 on Dec 23, 2011 10:33 AM CST up reply actions

Wonder who uses these?

You're such an inspiration for all the ways that I will never, ever choose to be-Maynard James Keenan

by AcquiredPanic on Dec 27, 2011 3:21 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs

LOL

In Breesus' name we play

by Breesus Christ Superstar on Dec 28, 2011 7:17 AM CST up reply actions

Drug Test

Drew Brees....MVP Saint! Who Dat!!!

by cajuncommando58 on Dec 23, 2011 10:31 AM CST up reply actions

Here, fill this up.

He only comes out when I drink my gin

by stujo4 on Dec 23, 2011 11:59 AM CST up reply actions

Haaaaaaa

No problem for about the last 10 years. Hoping we get medical Mary-Jane passed by the time I retire.

Drew Brees....MVP Saint! Who Dat!!!

by cajuncommando58 on Dec 23, 2011 12:18 PM CST up reply actions

we gonna be so old.. won't even have the strength to roll..

ha ha..

by the 9th plague on Dec 23, 2011 1:26 PM CST up reply actions

So I'll get me another pipe.

Drew Brees....MVP Saint! Who Dat!!!

by cajuncommando58 on Dec 24, 2011 7:00 PM CST up reply actions

You only had 3 comments in the whole thread, each 2 sentences long or less...

You have no idea what it’s like to be coldpizza.

by Ship on Dec 23, 2011 1:25 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs

this is true

I just had a rap with Santa and we took us a little stroll
And all I want for Christmas is the Saints in the Super Bowl

by Hans Petersen on Dec 23, 2011 1:30 PM CST up reply actions

shipper.. you keep it up..

& he’ll show up here in a minute.. managing to single-handedly destroy any cohesiveness in this thread..
(sorry.. that was wrong.. i’m trying to be a good plague, hansel.. it’s not easy)

by the 9th plague on Dec 23, 2011 1:37 PM CST up reply actions

I'll stop.

About to head out to get dress shoes for my kid with the size-16 feet…………..

Hard to find a blacksmith that handles Clydesdales.

by Ship on Dec 23, 2011 1:50 PM CST up reply actions

Nah...

I’m usually the only one who cares enough to point out the shortcomings of his theories.

You struck a nerve that CP never has with your wild fear mongering, my friend.

It’s not the size of your TOP, it’s how you use it!
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by Dan Kelly on Dec 24, 2011 3:09 PM CST via Android app up reply actions

I bowled last night and rolled a monster game...

Followed by two more great games. See? I proved the theory wrong.We have nothing to worry about.

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by jack_casse on Dec 23, 2011 9:28 AM CST reply actions

This game is at home tough.

From the MONSTER games you listed, the following games were all on the road.
This seems like the first time, Drew went into someone else’s house and put up that kind of passer rating. This follow-on game is different.

it’s at home.
it’s Monday night
running backs are solid and healthy
saints don’t have to use the “give the ball to Reggie Bush up the middle” experiment anymore.

by deucifer on Dec 23, 2011 11:00 AM CST reply actions

saints don’t have to use the "give the ball to Reggie Bush up the middle" experiment anymore.

Could’ve fooled me, I didn’t know they felt like they had to do that, I rarely saw that.

Haters gon' hate...

by TAYDIGGA on Dec 23, 2011 2:29 PM CST up reply actions

When he wasn’t injured, and when he was more “the” running back because of all the other injured backs, he ran up the middle—and it wasn’t pretty. Saints ran him up the middle to avoid being predictable so that other teams would respect that play. It hurt on many drives beause they’d waste a down, negative yardage even. Our current running back crew almost always gains a couple. I used to be a Reggie supporter—“he’s a great decoy” “he spreads out the defense”
I’m over it. Retrospection.

by deucifer on Dec 23, 2011 11:21 PM CST up reply actions

Miami runs him up the middle too but for some reason he broke 1000 yards…guess he needed more than 5 carries a game. Retrospection.

Haters gon' hate...

by TAYDIGGA on Dec 25, 2011 11:45 PM CST up reply actions

Well it’s not like they’ve got Drew Brees. What else are they gonna do?

In Breesus' name we play

by Breesus Christ Superstar on Dec 26, 2011 11:06 AM CST up reply actions

Throw it to Brandon Marshall who is a 1000 yard receiver this year too! A grade-C QB at that.

Haters gon' hate...

by TAYDIGGA on Dec 28, 2011 9:34 PM CST up reply actions

Kinda being selective here, no?

2009 vs Det – 26-34, 358 yds, 6 TDs. Next week – 25-34, 311 yards, 3 TDs
2008 vs Den – 39-48, 421 yds, 1 TD. Next week – 23-35, 363 yards, 3 TDs
2007 vs San Fran – 31-39, 336 yds, 4 TDs. Next week – 35-49, 445 yards, 3 TDs
2006 vs TB – 24-32, 314 yds, 3 TDs. Next week – 31-47, 398 yards, 1 TD.

I’d say all four of those were pretty monstrous, who cares if the dumbest stat in football (passer rating) eclipses 140?

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by 40AS on Dec 23, 2011 1:38 PM CST reply actions

ATL destroyed Jax in their last gm

the Saints did same thing to Minn. in their last. If the Saints were on the road, I’d be more concerned, that was the scenario, going to STL. ATL is going on the road, after a home blow out. SuperDome will be Rockin’, So Geaux Crazy Who-Dats!

by metryman on Dec 23, 2011 4:00 PM CST reply actions