Detroit Lions 17 @ New Orleans Saints 31: Saints' Dome Sweet Dome Perfection Continues
by David "Satch" Kelly on Dec 4, 2011 10:48 PM CST
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PrintWhat looked early on like it would be yet another prime-time beat-down for the New Orleans Saints later became a much more competitive match-up as the Detroit Lions came out of halftime with noticeably more fire than did the Saints. It was the first time all season that the Saints failed to score in the third quarter. Meanwhile, the Lions put up 10 unanswered points to close the Saints' lead to 7 before the Saints got back on track and put the game away for good.
This Lions team would be very good if they could only become a little more disciplined. They constantly shot themselves in the foot tonight with immature temper flare-ups and untimely penalties. They did a better job of beating themselves than did the Saints.
With tonight's win and the Falcons' loss earlier today (Thank you, Houston!), the Saints extend their NFC South lead to two games and are now on a four game winning streak. Speaking of streaks, Drew Brees extends his consecutive games with a TD pass streak to 39 games. If all continues to go well for him, Drew will break Johnny Unitas' 47 game record in week 5 of next season.
In other news, Saints WR coach Curtis Johnson has reportedly accepted the Tulane head-coaching job. No word yet on when he might be leaving the team. See the link below for more:
Curtis Johnson leaving the Saints for Tulane | ProFootballTalk
As the Saints continue their push toward another possible Super Bowl appearance and/or win, they will need a new receivers coach. Per a league source, receivers coach Curtis Johnson has accepted the head-coaching job at Tulane. He joined the Saints in 2006, with coach Sean Payton.
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Another nice win (Never doubted it) but
Defence needs to get better. Not much pass rush and no pass defence. Stafford put up 395 yards and this game could have gotten away had they played a more disiplined game and cut down on their penalties. Thanks Detroit for having Hot Heads on your team.
My Magnificent Black and Gold Warriors
Agreed
Very flat in the second half. And defense can’t stop the run either. Giving up way too many big plays. Gotta tighten up for Chris Johnson next week
I spent 8 years trying to reach him...and then another 7 trying to keep him locked up because I realized what was living behind that boy's eyes was purely and simply...Evil.
Dr. Sam Loomis Aka (Donald Pleasence)
no doubt
As a Lions fan I love the aggression of the team and even don’t mind pushing the letter of the “law”. It’s having such thin skin and easily thrown off their game that’s getting old fast. I just hope they can get in Dr Danny to teach them how to focus their rage lol!
If you are disappointed it is only because you have chosen to set your expectations at a level that was never reasonable in the first place.
--> Don't blame the Lions. Blame yourself for not keeping your perspective.
-Tufflynx
Very disappointed in the performance of the team as a whole.
Offense showed me very little. Ingram should not be carrying more than Ivory. Drew was good but not great and it was the coverage by the lions that was really good. GW unlike alot of others I think u should blitz your ass off, because 3/4 D aint working. The coverage on backs and receiversn was horrible, which may not have been a big deal if the pressure we topically bring was present.
Fee-fi-fo-fum,
I smell the blood of an Englishman,
Be he alive, or be he dead
I'll grind his bones to make my bread
Well from a Saints point of view
I’m sure they see Ingram as a first round draft pick they want to develop and Ivory as trade bait
by mississippisaintsfan on Dec 4, 2011 11:15 PM CST up reply actions
I think you should blitz your a** off
He already blitzes his a** off. For what reason would you want him to continue or even increase it? (if that even possible) It doesn’t change anything no matter how many we bring. Our blitzes are nearly always picked up and we get burned again and again and again.
The coverage on backs and receiversn was horrible, which may not have been a big deal if the pressure we topically bring was present.
We typically bring pressure? We blitz, yes we do that, but we dont pressure anyone. Our blitzes are identified immediately and the QB just throws at the one on one coverage. One of the major reasons the coverage sucks is because we continue to sacrifice it for the almighty blitz. We need to say screw the blitz and focus on coverage. Make all them big boys on the line earn their money and step up or find someone next year that will.
Make sure I'm all the way dead because I'll come back and make you my b****-Captain Spaulding
by AcquiredPanic on Dec 4, 2011 11:29 PM CST up reply actions
And since you are very disappointed in the team due to this win
And Drew Brees played good but not great in your opinion. What kind of flawless performance would they need to have in order for you to say that you were very impressed?
Make sure I'm all the way dead because I'll come back and make you my b****-Captain Spaulding
by AcquiredPanic on Dec 4, 2011 11:36 PM CST up reply actions
Just guessing here – 90% completions, force 3+ turnovers, and allow under 200 yards. I’m not saying that I expect that, just saying that is what some people seem to expect.
by BlackandGold4ever on Dec 5, 2011 7:41 AM CST up reply actions
Can't say I expect more from the offense...
I loved seeing Meachem get targeted for 3 huge receptions (the only incompletion of the three was thrown late, but I guess he could have made a miraculous adjustment and come back farther than what he did to get more seperation), great to see he and Brees may be reestablishing a good rapport. It seems that was a point of the game plan, and not so much Brees’ own natural passing decision, because later when we were back to being ahead by only one score, It was pure Graham/Sproles in short passes. I’m scared that Drew is getting too comfortable with the check down- Sproles can be ok because he’s just amazing, but a pass to Graham in the flat on 3rd and 10 is agonizing to watch. Graham can’t get yac, that’s just not the kind of receiver he is. I would have liked to see us run more often with more success, as we barely cleared 100 total rushing yards. Maybe that’s a tradeoff of not having Suh in the game, as I think his overpursuit of the quarterback has been observed as a vulnerability to Detroit’s defense. LIke I said, I can’t expect more, I’m just typing… On defense, our problem is definitely the pass rush, and aside from the return of Turk McBride (which will be great-he’s by far the only defensive free agent we picked up that really produces- hell, he’s only one that doesn’t outright disappoint), I doubt there’s and way we can improve that this season. Romeus is on IR, Will Smith has too much to fight through every down; Jordan is a career depth/runstopping DE; Franklin is good, but slightly inconsistent; Rogers is a tired, lazy oaf; Ellis rarely brings pressure, Junior got one sack last night (poor Jordan- he wanted it so bad, there was no way he could avoid hitting Stafford late once he went down), which makes 4 on the season, but it’s just not enough. Our secondary had great coverage overall I thought. Well, not really, here’s what I have to say about that: Our corners were usually in terrific position to make plays on the ball, but missed those plays a few times. They’re timing of jump was off, or they just purely whiffed a live ball that they had the jump on. I have memory from last night of Porter, Robinson, and Jenkins each doing that. I guess we could say “that’s why they’re not receivers,” and we could make excuses for them: All that time running around with an inferior supporting pass rush, plus with the task of Calvin Johnson (whom they handled really well; kudos to GW and staff) they had their work cut out for them. They may have been exasperated at times, but man. Their play-on-ball mechanics need polishing. That said, I know our corners are very good, and the difference I’m talking about here between their performance and where they could be as cover corners is the difference between very good and scary good. If they did get better, and could catch a ball on top of that, I’d feel a lot better about revisiting Lambeau Field. P.S. Jenkins, although I think I remember Seeing him completely miss a live one that he could have caught, is a fkn beast. The guy covered some major ground last night that if he hadn’t, a lot of us would be calling for the heads of some of the other guys I was just semi-praising. Jenkins is a monster. I’d hate to run into that dude in a dark alley somewhere…psps. what’s up with all those penalties, does Detroit always play like that? Were we getting lucky/favored with all those pushoff calls on Burleson? What’s up with all the skirmishes after the whistle with our defense? It seems every game now there’s some back-and-forth with our guys and the opposing offensive players that gets close to out of hand. It’s usually the other offensive guys that make themselves look like assholes, but still, I’d hate to see our team get viewed as classless. They can be nasty and get under our enemies’ skin without looking like hotheaded animals out there. Dammit Harper. Can’t hate Jenkins though. The man simply runs people down and makes receivers pay.
I think we would have been in trouble here facing a Lions team at full strength
But I also think a win is a win and games like this will only make us better
Detroit could be our first game in the playoffs and I would expect us to do much better
Also I think Pettigrew from the lions will be paying a hefty fine for pushing an NFL official
by mississippisaintsfan on Dec 4, 2011 11:13 PM CST reply actions
he should be paying for that
I too think with a healthy team it would have been a much more difficult challenge than it was for y’all. That and the lack of penalties could easily spell victory for the real D too. Then again I know better than to ever try and discount Brees and all ‘dat, they’re just too damn good.
G’luck the rest of the regular season. I’m sure we’ll see more fun performances!
If you are disappointed it is only because you have chosen to set your expectations at a level that was never reasonable in the first place.
--> Don't blame the Lions. Blame yourself for not keeping your perspective.
-Tufflynx
yes good win, but gotta be ready for Tenn.
they are in the hunt, it may be cold and wet, need revenge on Hasselbeck, he worries me.
You think you know, and you don't know, and you never, ever, will.-Jim Mora Sr.
I understand ....nothing.-Michael Scott
The Future is Unwritten.-Joe Strummer
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win."-Mahatma Gandhi
Forgot to note
Jimmy Graham topped 1000 yards for the season tonight. He’s the first ever Saints TE to do so in a season. And, this is only his second year!!
"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!
by David "Satch" Kelly on Dec 4, 2011 11:18 PM CST reply actions
Also...
Drew topped 4000 yards for the season and is now only 1053 yards short of Dan Marino’s single-season passing record with four games to go. He only needs to average 264 yards a game over the next four to break it. I’m thinking he won’t be the only QB to break it this season, but will finish with the most yards and set the new record.
"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!
by David "Satch" Kelly on Dec 4, 2011 11:31 PM CST up reply actions
Right now, it isn't if he can outpace Marino for the record
He can. The real race now is if he can outpace Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady. Rodgers gained a little on him yesterday, but Brady couldn’t top 300. Its looking good for Brees to be at the top of the record books.
"I want to hand this trophy to the MVP of the Super Bowl -- and the MVP of the entire league.''
-- Saints coach Sean Payton, handing the Vince Lombardi Trophy to Drew Brees after Super Bowl 44.
QFT
They did a better job of beating themselves than did the Saints
I appreciate the impartiality in your assessment. There’s no doubt in my mind the Saints earned this victory. The hitch is for every bit the Sanits earned it the Lions gave it away with the dumbassery :/ I hate to mention the poor officiating since generally that’s pretty lame. Then again today was unbelievable with the amount of lopsided non calls. Ultimately I don’t think it changed the game, just tough to watch this league some times.
All in all I have to say great game by the Saints. Y’all have good reason to be proud of that team and anticipate more solid performances. G’luck in the playoffs…unless we’re meeting you there, then it’s suck it and lose vengeance will be ours!!!!
If you are disappointed it is only because you have chosen to set your expectations at a level that was never reasonable in the first place.
--> Don't blame the Lions. Blame yourself for not keeping your perspective.
-Tufflynx
Good luck to you too!
I always root for them to win (unless it effects our chances). I hope your coach starts to clean up the dirty play and harness that emotion. If he can do that the Lions have a bright future.
by SarahT on Dec 4, 2011 11:48 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I am dissapointed with the team
Don’t get me wrong I am EXTREMELY happy with the win but my mind is on the playoffs and they cannot play like this and expect to win. I fully expect them to play GB in the NFC championship game which means games like these need to be behind them.
by SarahT on Dec 4, 2011 11:43 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Also my feelings are totally based on the fact
That they are better than this and I expect consistency from such an elite team. We have too much talent to kick our own a**es.
by SarahT on Dec 4, 2011 11:50 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I just want to see us win one playoff game. Everyone keeps talking about us playing GB again, or against the San Fran defense in the playoffs without talking about the fact that we actually have to win 1-2 games first in the playoffs to make those happen. It’s getting annoying how much people are getting ahead of themselves, especially after last year. (Note I’m in no way saying you’re doing this…I’ve just been seeing it non-stop in the media and frankly it’s getting to me). We have to play a lot better if we expect to win even our first game in the playoffs.
-Lombardi was wrong...it's the internet, not fatigue that makes cowards of us all. But then again, what do you expect. Not like the guy could see the future.
by jeff.l.b on Dec 5, 2011 12:23 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
I'm doing it, of course, and I'm aware that you can't count your chinckens before they hatch, BUT:
WE ARE FANS!!! Let the organization worry about “one game at a time” and all thstuff they get paid big bucks for. Don’t let extra-team speculation bother you Jeff. I’m sure that a hell of a lot of the media available to us at csc is contrary to how the Saints organization feels and views and strategizes, so don’t bother yourself thinking overconfidence could be a player’s/coach’s vice. I realize that our next game, as well as all others, it’s gonna be no cake-walk beating any given team any given week (Titans are be a handful, right there), but to be champions, we have to be able to beat Green Bay. It’s a given. The matchup is so probable that not think about it would nearly be ignorant.
by jigglum...jigglum good...(SAINTS)...! on Dec 5, 2011 2:35 PM CST up reply actions
They could have beaten Green Bay today…if Eli hung up those numbers on the Pack, then Brees would have done even better against them. Just saying that we need to keep some perspective. Green Bay has a great offense and bad defense. San Fran has at best an average offense and a good defense. I think we can beat either of them with the way our offense is playing right now.
by BlackandGold4ever on Dec 5, 2011 7:44 AM CST up reply actions
49'ers defense is almost scary good, uncanny good, a freak of nature...just saying
Okay, yeah, I’m probably overdoing it, but…
Still not as good as the Maestro (sorry, surgeon general doesn’t seem to suit any longer) and his orchestra. Song being, “Let’s get crunked”.
If you’re thinking, “Oh boy! Here goes Nofear, again.”, you would be sooooo right.
Whodat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The one thing about San Francisco...
is that they have played against suspect competition. I still think that Arizona has a good shot at beating them and that Pittsburgh will definitely beat them because they will be playing for something.
by BlackandGold4ever on Dec 5, 2011 8:00 AM CST up reply actions
That's certainly not the way I'm reading it, especially on defense
but I guess we’ll see. I hope you’re right! Not that, in the end, it would make any diff in a game against the Saints. They’re max of 27 points would be added to by a high margin. And, they certainly haven’t played a single high powered offense but quite a few respectable ones, like the Lions.
Whodat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What I got from the game....
The offense, when they protect Drew Brees, is simply unstoppable…but I still say it would be even more so if they simply decided to run the ball more and milk some clock a bit. (Which reminds me…what happened to Pierre Thomas) They may need that in the next 2 games, because not every D will be as accommodating as the Lions were. And, they most definitely will need that in case they have to go to the former Candlestick and ’Da Frozen Tundra…which they probably will have to do to get to SB XLV (SB VL)
The D, on the other hand…absolutely SUCKS…as bad as 2008, if not worse. No pass rush to speak of, and way too much indiscriminate blitzing that puts the secondary in bad positions. Countless times they looked like they were so obsessed with hogtailing Megatron that they allowed the other receivers to run right through them. And that’s with third-string running backs. Chris Johnson will have a field day with them if they don’t fix these problems real soon.
Right now, they are squarely looking at 3rd seed, since it appears that Dallas and the Giants are more concerned with giving away the NFC East to each other, and the 49ers and Packers don’t seem to want to lose any more games this year. Their O can get them to the Super Bowl and even win it…but their D can also allow them to get bounced in the 1st round if Brees struggles and/or Payton doesn’t change up and rely on his deep running game to get through the bad times.
That 2-game cushion over the Dirty Birds is beginning to look mighty important, too.
BTW…after LSU’s whacking of UGA, and the Saints’ dominance of the DBuzzards, would it be OK to officially rename the Georgia Dome as “The Louisiana Superdome II”??
Anthony
Tonight the D looked worse than in the past couple of games
I am wondering if Vilma being back shook things up a bit since Dunbar isn’t in control anymore (and maybe he should be).
by SarahT on Dec 4, 2011 11:57 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I love Vilma, but if he needs to be moved or even just hang out on the sidelines, I’m okay with that. I cannot stand to see the defense play like it did last night. I’m happy for the win, but it was unsatisfying in a way. The next to last series of defense was a thing of beauty. Why can’t THAT D show up more often? Is it the players or is the dc? I geniunely want to know. I’m frustrated.
"It's better to burn out than fade away."
Official_Saints New Orleans Saints
“I felt a little rusty at first. I felt like I was just reacting more than playing,” – Vilma
I'm a real cool head, I'm makin' real good bread
Frankly I thought Vilma played decent at MLB…better than I’ve seen Dunbar play lately. He may have been just reacting a bit…but he also made a couple of heads up plays and had a few good run blitzes as well.
Funny how we as Saints fans keep panning our defense for how they’re playing…and Yasinkas just wrote an article today on ESPN about how great our defense has played the last several weeks. An odd contradiction between the two.
-Lombardi was wrong...it's the internet, not fatigue that makes cowards of us all. But then again, what do you expect. Not like the guy could see the future.
he (Pat Y) is looking at it in a very different way than many of us are
He also said in that piece that the 2010 defense regressed from 2009, when in actuality, the defense actually played much better in yards and points allowed, but worse in turnovers, and the offense scored much less per game as well.
I’m not sure he’s studied the Saints defense as closely as he thinks he has…
WIN NOW
WINGRAMANIA!!!!
by Hans Petersen on Dec 5, 2011 12:55 PM CST up reply actions
The Georgia dome is ugly and really plain at the same time
I wouldn’t want to associate the state of Louisiana with it.
Make sure I'm all the way dead because I'll come back and make you my b****-Captain Spaulding
by AcquiredPanic on Dec 5, 2011 12:51 AM CST up reply actions
Everybody is talking about Chris Johnson based off of this game, but who were we most concerned with stopping last night? Detroit has hobbled RBs and a healthy Matthew Stafford, Calvin Johnson, and Brandon Pettigrew. I’d roll the dice on conatining Megatron, too, given those circumstances. Who exactly are we worried about for the Titans?
by BlackandGold4ever on Dec 5, 2011 7:47 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Boom!
Perspective. Gregg Williams was obviously entirely concerned about the Lions’ pass attack and didn’t fear their run game. He’ll game plan a lot differently for the Titans.
"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!
by David "Satch" Kelly on Dec 5, 2011 8:35 AM CST up reply actions
Congrats on the victory guys
Hopefully the Titans can study how the lions got so many yards and somehow put more points than the Lions did.
suck it
And shepherds we shall be, for thee my Lord for thee, Power hath descended forth from thy hand, that our feet may swiftly carry out thy command, we shall flow a river forth to thee, and teeming with souls shall it ever be. In nomine patris, et filii, et spiritus sancti.
by DrWhoDat on Dec 5, 2011 2:51 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Ha
I approve this message.
Make sure I'm all the way dead because I'll come back and make you my b****-Captain Spaulding
by AcquiredPanic on Dec 5, 2011 2:56 AM CST up reply actions
c'mon, Doc
we’re better than this.
Let’s show our class with a clever, witty, and searing comment that informs and educates while letting out visitor know his/her wish will not happen…
WIN NOW
WINGRAMANIA!!!!
by Hans Petersen on Dec 5, 2011 6:02 AM CST up reply actions
suck it
in an educational well wishing sort of way?
"I'm not allowed to comment on lousy officiating." -Jim Finks, New Orleans Saints G.M.
by theprogrammerman on Dec 5, 2011 6:55 AM CST up reply actions
it's a baby step at least
try an informed, fact-based reply that tears apart the other person’s argument,
or this:
“Go for it, Munchak! good luck with that”
WIN NOW
WINGRAMANIA!!!!
by Hans Petersen on Dec 5, 2011 12:58 PM CST up reply actions
How about
Maybe the Titans can study the game tape, and figure out how not to give the Saints, soooooo many more opportunities, to not only beat them, but watch themselves embarrass their long suffering fans.
Ahhh, maybe a little caustic.
R.I.P. Andy Rooney
by cajuncommando58 on Dec 5, 2011 10:25 AM CST up reply actions
defense, offence, and offenses
I bleed Black and Gold. I have since I was a child. (the elder Manning was still tossing for us) I have rooted from 40 behind, and I keep rooting at 40 ahead, I stand for the national anthem. (yes even in my living room.) I keep my hat off during games, and rub the gold d’lis in the red zone. So you know I know my crawfish, I suck the headjuice. What I cannot stand is the outright hubris, that some of the new fans have adopted, denigrating our whole philosophy of winning.
To them I say this, RESPECT YOUR FOE, when you do not, they will beat you. We have lost too many games and too many seasons, believing in a fast start, or a good draft. (thanks ricky and reggie and those ass hats who drafted you.) However, we have found our way out of the wilderness, let us not go back through HUBRIS.
I saw many very derogatory postings about the Detroit Lions, not just for their play, but, for their coaching. Their on and off field behavior, and the character of their personnel. I say it is not our concern. Let us be true gentlemen, congratulate them on a game well played, and move on.
We have other catfish to fry, unless by some mischance, we meet them again in the postseason. do not dwell on the day done, or the game won, think instead, on the game yet to come.
I say this to the CHAMPIONS in black and gold, GO FORTH AND BE BOLD, THANK YOU ALL!
BE GENTLE MEN. On and Off The Field. please still win.
A true fan of the game.
by Synner on Dec 5, 2011 1:46 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
well said.
+1
Hmmm...
I probably shouldn’t come on this. ;-)
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by Dave Cariello on Aug 24, 2011 10:31 AM PDT
Lol we are allowed to complain about other teams actions
by SarahT on Dec 5, 2011 1:55 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Too bad we're allowed to fry up cat fish as well.....ewwww.
-Lombardi was wrong...it's the internet, not fatigue that makes cowards of us all. But then again, what do you expect. Not like the guy could see the future.
Oh Jeff you have subsisted on Steak for far too long.
Come see me here in Arkansas, and I will fry you some Cajun spiced catfish, guaranteed to change your opinion of the lowly catfish
R.I.P. Andy Rooney
by cajuncommando58 on Dec 6, 2011 7:25 AM CST up reply actions
Doubtful…I despise all seafood.
-Lombardi was wrong...it's the internet, not fatigue that makes cowards of us all. But then again, what do you expect. Not like the guy could see the future.
I love a challenge.
Ask my wife!
R.I.P. Andy Rooney
by cajuncommando58 on Dec 6, 2011 11:04 AM CST up reply actions
Shaun Rodgers has a heart of gold
Make sure I'm all the way dead because I'll come back and make you my b****-Captain Spaulding
I likred that, too…he had just laid him out and Stafford actually looked a bit intimidated from it lol
by BlackandGold4ever on Dec 5, 2011 7:49 AM CST up reply actions
Remember when we were worried about Brees throwing too many INTs?
No worries now!
"I want to hand this trophy to the MVP of the Super Bowl -- and the MVP of the entire league.''
-- Saints coach Sean Payton, handing the Vince Lombardi Trophy to Drew Brees after Super Bowl 44.
Hurry up and knock on some wood.
We can’t take any chances, lol.
Make sure I'm all the way dead because I'll come back and make you my b****-Captain Spaulding
by AcquiredPanic on Dec 5, 2011 5:38 AM CST up reply actions
I remember in the old days when we wouldn't care how we won, but now we are own worst
critic. I agree the defense needs to pick it up, so when Drew has an off day they can pick up the slack. I thought the offense look pretty good last night. We had some drives that stalled, but who doesn’t in the NFL. It is possible we can be one and done in the playoffs, but isn’t that the case for any of the teams vying for a playoff spot this year. We have to admit the 2009 defense doesn’t not exist anymore. Admitting this is the first step to recovery. I’m not saying we can not improve in all phases of the game, but I’m sure there about 25 teams wishing they were us.
Reminds me of when we got a new copying machine
The first week it was AWESOME. About a month later it was waaaaaay too slow.
“25 teams wishing they were us.”. Yessssssss
Whodat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I’m waiting to see if Jordan and Romeus develop some in the offseason and next year we have in improved pass rush. I was happy to see Payton get in Jordan’s face over the roughing penalty…quite a contrast to Schwartz with his players. And the fact that it came from the top and not just the DC was good, too.
by BlackandGold4ever on Dec 5, 2011 9:04 AM CST up reply actions
Agreed
I have a much more positive opinion of Suh after last night. He’s not a dirty player. It’s more that Jim Swartz does a poor job of teaching his players to be smarter on the field and not hurt their team with stupid unnecessary roughness penalties.
"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!
by David "Satch" Kelly on Dec 5, 2011 10:23 AM CST up reply actions
As I noted in a different post, Schwartz was DC at Tennessee when Haynesworth did his infamous face stomp. I haven’t really heard of that type of madness from Haynesworth since the left the Titans…now he is just lazy and prideful.
by BlackandGold4ever on Dec 5, 2011 10:34 AM CST up reply actions
“I haven’t really heard of that type of madness from Haynesworth since the left the Titans…”
I was just going to say… now he just sucks. lol.
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He is dirty ‘other DK’.
He’s smart and knows EXACTLY what he’s doing.
He’s a hot head… but that’s no excuse for trying to hurt someone or stomping on a guy when he’s down… after you tried to slam his head into the ground repeatedly.
The guy the pushed the ref last night. That was stupid, but it happened in the heat of the moment. Any one of us might have done that too.
But, when something is repeated over and over and over again – it’s not a mistake.
When an individual incident goes on (with the other guy not doing anything in retaliation) it’s not by accident.
HE IS DIRTY – PERIOD.
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On the flip side, I also believe that he could be the best DT of all time, if he can reign in his OVERY agressive, AFTER the whistle, INTENT to harm ways.
Doesn't anyone agree with me that the momentum shift had as much to do with the
crowd as the defense?
Payton states: “I like the fact that we’re playing with confidence,” he said, “and I like the fact that we answered when that momentum shifted.”
At least, he begged the question.
Whodat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Who was your player of the game? Tracy Porter
Why is he on here?
I'm a real cool head, I'm makin' real good bread
he was active, but did not show up on the tackle chart
and I’m not sure how many snaps he actually played on the field
seems like in this game, he was neither rejuvenated, career-wise, nor performing as a quality veteran
he’s the Bobby Carpenter of Bobby Carpenters
WIN NOW
WINGRAMANIA!!!!
by Hans Petersen on Dec 5, 2011 1:04 PM CST up reply actions
What people seem to be forgetting
That while the Packers D is #30 they are also 2nd in the league in creating turnovers & we all know Rodgers is capable of “making something of it”. Remind anyone of a certain team in 2009? This area is where the Packers D obviously excels & we do not.
by SarahT on Dec 5, 2011 1:54 PM CST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Sarah, may I respectfully suggest that you just go ahead and crown their ass?
Game 1 this year was closer than the score indicates. 1 fumble by Colston. Saints punted twice, Packers punted 4 times. If the next game should come down to a shootout (Lambeau be damned) where the last time to score wins, I’m confident the Saints can win. And should win. In my head.
I'm a real cool head, I'm makin' real good bread
(last team) (still confident) Drew BREEESSS!!! CROWN their ass!!!
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She’s merely stating the obvious that a lot of people here refuse to pay attention to. They are a better defense than we are, with bigger playmakers in the secondary, at linebacker and on the defensive line. The parallels to how their playing and how our 2009 defense was is perfectly clear. It by no means suggests that we can’t beat them. The Saints are vastly superior to the Rams…but we still lost that game. Both teams give up chunks of yards on defense…largely because the opponents are mostly playing from behind and we tend to play softer as the game goes on to try and protect the lead by not giving up the big play, keeping it in front, and running down the clock. The main difference between the two is the caliber of players and takeaways. If the game happens…it should be a good one and a close one that either team can win.
-Lombardi was wrong...it's the internet, not fatigue that makes cowards of us all. But then again, what do you expect. Not like the guy could see the future.
It by no means suggests that we can’t beat them.
That is not clear. In fact, the opposite is strongly implied.
Sorry jeff, I know packers/saints talk annoys you. But it can’t be ignored.
I'm a real cool head, I'm makin' real good bread
Want to know why I’m confident? Boom right here. Precedent has been set.
I'm a real cool head, I'm makin' real good bread
Let it be said that you just put us in the role of the Falcons…..the Falcons….just saying.
-Lombardi was wrong...it's the internet, not fatigue that makes cowards of us all. But then again, what do you expect. Not like the guy could see the future.
I don’t care it it was the Baby Jaguars. A playoff win at Lambeau in January is not impossible. If Dan Reeves can will it, then Payton should be able to the same.
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And people are talkin about how rogers doesn't throw INT's...
They said that about two of our opposing QB’s in 2009.
And they both threw us one that certainly helped us win.
Funny….I think about the Giants and how incredibly red Coughlin’s cheeks were in that game. I wanted to slap him…just to see if he’d pass out from the sudden shock of pain from the wind burn and cold.
-Lombardi was wrong...it's the internet, not fatigue that makes cowards of us all. But then again, what do you expect. Not like the guy could see the future.
Do goblins feel pain?
Make sure I'm all the way dead because I'll come back and make you my b****-Captain Spaulding
by AcquiredPanic on Dec 5, 2011 3:48 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Interesting….joking aside…that resemblance is uncanny.
-Lombardi was wrong...it's the internet, not fatigue that makes cowards of us all. But then again, what do you expect. Not like the guy could see the future.
I’m not exactly young. Besides, I’m sure I’ll keel over before say my mid 50s anyway.
-Lombardi was wrong...it's the internet, not fatigue that makes cowards of us all. But then again, what do you expect. Not like the guy could see the future.
jeff, lay off the saturated fats. You don’t want to die young and leave a slightly heavy set corpse.
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I could care less about leaving a heavy set corpse…I’ll be dead. But I admit I don’t want to die young. People who aren’t fat just don’t get it though. I went on a diet for several months earlier this year….about 1K calories a day. I lost 12 lbs in the first week….and ZERO lbs for the next 2 months. It seems quite clear that god hates me…which is why I take great delight in hating him right back.
-Lombardi was wrong...it's the internet, not fatigue that makes cowards of us all. But then again, what do you expect. Not like the guy could see the future.
by jeff.l.b on Dec 5, 2011 4:56 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd it for the last sentence.
Make sure I'm all the way dead because I'll come back and make you my b****-Captain Spaulding
by AcquiredPanic on Dec 5, 2011 5:35 PM CST up reply actions
That last sentence is more wrong than you can imagine.
by BlackandGold4ever on Dec 6, 2011 6:25 AM CST up reply actions
He’ll find out soon enough. Death bed conversion, jeff. My Uncle Bob pulled it off. boom rec’d it.
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Won’t happen. Especially after listening to a preacher recently tell everything that my friend who just died was going to burn in hell because he didn’t except Jesus despite being a good and honorable man. And with that…we should end this before it becomes a religious debate.
-Lombardi was wrong...it's the internet, not fatigue that makes cowards of us all. But then again, what do you expect. Not like the guy could see the future.
That’s what I thought of the response from Jeff. Who knows? Maybe we’ll all get rapped on the knuckles for this.
by BlackandGold4ever on Dec 6, 2011 11:29 AM CST up reply actions
Republicans!! Democrats!!
Oh wait, they’re all crap per the Head Hall Monitor. You guys don’t mind if tag along on the Highway to Hell, do you?
Watch it
This is the type of political comment Dave will blow you up over! Take it from someone who knows.
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by cajuncommando58 on Dec 6, 2011 3:46 PM CST up reply actions
Just to let you know…I don’t dislike you or anything. I definitely find you to be grounded (maybe sometimes pessimistic) about the team. I would agree with the preacher, though. Not because I like saying that about anybody, but because it is true. It’s the fate I deserve as well.
by BlackandGold4ever on Dec 6, 2011 11:32 AM CST up reply actions
Not trying to make light of it, but Charles Woodson had a concussion last night. that is going to hurt the Packers with the new rules in place.
by BlackandGold4ever on Dec 5, 2011 3:56 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
How so? Unless he gets another one he can still play next week right, right?
Assuming he doesn’t get another one, it only affected him for that game, which they won anyway, and if he takes a savage hit from, say Ivory, when (ok, Jeff: “if”) we play them, they’ll take a look at him on the sidelines, and unless he’s showing symptoms, he’ll be back for the next series. Am I wrong? Not to be a pessimist, but as much as I’d love to entertain the idea of Woodson going inactive, I just doubt it. He’s not had any in the past is he? Is he concussion prone? Maybe he is and I just don’t know about it; in that case, I apologize for wasting ya’ll time haha
by jigglum...jigglum good...(SAINTS)...! on Dec 5, 2011 5:27 PM CST up reply actions
He has to be cleared by the doctors before the next game. They have to run tests and everything before he can play. It is not a matter of him saying, “Yeah, I feel OK”…under the new rules the doctors that are cleared by the NFL have to run the tests and say he is OK. Woodson doesn’t really have control of his playing status…the doctors do.
by BlackandGold4ever on Dec 6, 2011 6:28 AM CST up reply actions
rotoworld.com:
Packers coach Mike McCarthy said Monday that CB Charles Woodson (head) will “probably” be ready to play in Week 14. It sounds like Woodson avoided a concussion in the fourth quarter of Sunday’s win over the Giants.
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Well, that is good to hear for Woodson’s sake if it is truly the case. I don’t think we’ll know for sure until practice time.
by BlackandGold4ever on Dec 6, 2011 10:18 AM CST up reply actions
What I think...........
I think our Saints should be playing inside with the A-C on right now. (Can you see that I am confident we will be playing in Lambeau very soon.) Nothing like being prepared. All the other games leading up to that game would be nice and toasty.
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