New Orleans Saints Offensive Player Grades vs. Lions
At 9-3 the Saints are now firmly in control of both the NFC South and the No. 3 seed in the conference, so now we can turn our focus to rooting against the 49ers and hoping for a chance at the two seed and a first round bye.
The offense against the Lions performed pretty well, but it did suffer a lull for the entire third quarter and parts of the fourth. When things really got tight, though, the Saints just turned to Jimmy Graham and that took care of securing the result.
Most importantly the offense once again did a terrific job of limiting turnovers and staying away from crucial mistakes. They didn't quite move the ball as they did against the Giants, and too often faced 3rd and long, but in the end 31 points was more than enough to get the 'W' against a very worthy opponent. Not facing Ndamukong Suh in this game was a blessing. On to the grades...
Drew Brees: A (3.42) He finished 26 of 36 for 342 yards and 3 touchdowns and no interceptions. The Lions did apply decent pressure on Brees, sacking him twice and knocking him down four times. He did throw a few passes in traffic that he was very fortunate to escape with no interceptions, and he had a borderline fumble before halftime on that final drive that wasn't called and he alertly snapped the ball quickly before it could go to booth review. Overall Brees played well and he did a good job of killing the game by finding Graham when the game mattered most. I don't like his jump lob pass on screens, sometimes I think he executes that poorly, but that's just nit-picking. The best part about Brees lately is he's not turning it over. If the Saints avoid turnovers they are virtually unbeatable. He continues to have arguably the best season of his career. We're all spoiled than in some ways we take him awesomeness for granted.Mark Ingram: B- (2.57) He dropped a screen pass that was too high and he finished with 16 carries for 54 yards and a touchdown. He ran very well early and as the game progressed it got harder for him to get good yardage. I feel like the light is starting to come on for Ingram but he's still getting used to running in the NFL.
Pierre Thomas: B- (3.03) He had 2 catches for 11 yards and 2 rushes for 10 yards. He had 4 touches. I realize the guy is on a pitch count and he has been all season, but 4 touches is just absurd. Once again he did well with his reps, but how am I supposed to grade him when a good player like him has almost no role in the offense? Pierre Thomas getting 4 touches is shameful, really, and Sean Payton has to do a better job than that.
Darren Sproles: B (3.14) His return habits have been maddening as of late. He too often takes kicks out that are more than 5 yards deep and often barely gets back to the 20, if that. I wouldn't mind it if he broke one every once in a while, but that hasn't been happening. On offense he had 28 yards on 4 carries, 20 of it coming on a pitch sweep. He also had 5 receptions for 46 yards and an easy touchdown, including a crucial third down conversion and a big 22 yard reception that ultimately set up a touchdown.
Jed Collins: B- (2.97) Good blocking at times, other times not so much. His best block was on Ingram's first run where he sealed the edge to stop pursuit and open up a huge cut back lane. He continues to do a pretty good job.
Marques Colston: B+ (3.03) He finished with 6 catches for 54 yards and while he never made huge plays in this one he was constantly giving the Saints nice secure throws underneath. Many of Brees' passes to him were off target and either wide or low and Colston showed incredible and effortless hands and wingspan to make those passes seem routine. He was also called for an incredibly suspect holding call that negated a nice run by Ingram, but I didn't dock his grade there because watching the replay that flag was ridiculous.
Lance Moore: B (3.03) He had a bad drop after absorbing contact on his first reception attempt. He finished with just 2 catches for 23 yards, but both were huge. One was a short yardage conversion where he showed good body control to extend for the needed yardage, and one was an incredible catch where he got blown up in the end zone and held onto the ball for a touchdown. You'll notice through 12 games that he and Colston have the same GPA, so it'll be interesting to see how ends up the higher rated receiver for the season with 4 games left. He also drew a pass interference call with an awesome acting job.
Devery Henderson: C- (2.31) He was never targeted but he does deserve credit for drawing the defense deep with a number of seam routes and he blocked extremely well.
Robert Meachem: A (2.45) After being so quiet lately he finally exploded in this one. He finished with 3 catches for 119 yards and a touchdown which included a beautiful grab down the sideline for 38 yards and a 67 yard touchdown pass where he made Eric Wright look like an absolute fool. He was a willing blocker but he was fortunate not to get flagged for holding on Ingram's touchdown run. What I think Meachem deserves the most credit for is two passes where he turned into a defender. Twice on bad passes by Brees that should have been interceptions, he came back and found the ball to break up the pass. He also had a reverse were he broke a tackle in the open field and gained 8 yards.
Jimmy Graham: A- (3.28) He finished with 8 catches for 89 yards and as I mentioned above he completely took over the game at a critical time. He moved the chains that entire drive to set up the Sproles touchdown. His receiving ability is out of this world. The only negative I have was mediocre run blocking and a I think he does a very poor job of breaking tackles.
John Gilmore: C+ (2.17) His blocking seems to improve every game as he gets more comfortable with the offense but he continues to be a complete non factor in the passing game.
Jermon Bushrod: A (2.81) Facing a very tough assignment in blocking Kyle Vanden Bosch, he completely shut down the accomplished pass rusher. Vanden Bosch finished with 1 tackle and never so much as touched Brees. Bushrod did get some help with chips on occasion, but I thought this was his best game of the season. He continues to improve and I feel better than ever about having him blocking Brees' blind spot. His run blocking continues to improve, too.
Carl Nicks: C- (2.78) I thought he'd get a bit of a break with Suh out, but he had his hands full with rookie Nick Fairley. Before leaving the game with an injury, which is about when Nicks started playing better, Fairley wreaked havoc in the Saints backfield. While his Fairley's sack was more of a coverage sack, he also got solid penetration on numerous running plays and was able to push Nicks off the ball. Nicks was surprised by the talented rookie and this wasn't his best showing.
Brian de la Puente: B- (2.64) Another pretty solid game by de la Puente particularly pass blocking. He didn't get as much push up the middle as I'd like but he's been a great replacement overall for Kreutz. He did disrupt Brees' timing with one very low and poor snap out of the shotgun which resulted in Brees getting hit and almost throwing an interception.
Jahri Evans: B (3.14) Like Nicks he didn't get the push we're used to seeing but he made no mistakes and kept a very clean pocket on his side for Brees. He's having an excellent season. Sammie Hill is a very good defensive tackle and for the most part Evans kept him in check.
Zach Strief: B- (2.86) He got Brees hit a couple of times with suspect blocks off the edge but otherwise he had another pretty good game. His size is a nice addition to the team's physicality in the trenches and he's been a different player since coming back from his knee injury.
My Offensive Player of the Game: Drew Brees
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How could Ingram drop a screen pass that was so over thrown in went 5 yards over his head? You can't drop it...if it was never possible to catch it in the first place.
-Lombardi was wrong...it's the internet, not fatigue that makes cowards of us all. But then again, what do you expect. Not like the guy could see the future.
Thomas must have...
picked up an injury or something. What other possible reason could they have for only giving him 4 touches????
I do hope that's the plan
Keeping Thomas healthy for playoffs… If we can win games and keep all our backs healthy we have a very good chance of making it all the way.
I had to vote Bushrod.
I know not many else will, but I agree with you Andrew, his play has really impressed as of late. So even though he doesn’t stand a chance to win he’s got my Kudos vote!
R.I.P. Andy Rooney
by cajuncommando58 on Dec 6, 2011 10:50 AM CST reply actions
Went with Meacham
because that touchdown “juke” was absurd. Also, his “defending” on those off-target passes by Brees are some of those “hidden plays” that easily could’ve been negative turning points for the Saints. It’s nice to see him heavily involved in a game.
I wondered during the game...
Drew threw the ball to Jimmy at least twice where Jimmy didn’t even look for the ball. It looked like he messed up on the route or something. That leads to INTs and I hope it doesn’t happen to often. I know Drew was talking to him about it once on the side lines.
R.I.P. Andy Rooney
by cajuncommando58 on Dec 6, 2011 11:15 AM CST reply actions
Catching the 9ers
(At 9-3 the Saints are now firmly in control of both the NFC South and the No. 3 seed in the conference, so now we can turn our focus to rooting against the 49ers and hoping for a chance at the two seed and a first round bye)
Okay so we need the 9ers to lose twice because they have a better conference record than us and would win the tie breakers if we were both 13-3. They lost to Cowgirls, Raven and Pittsburgh on MNF maybe?
That being said we have a shot. The 49ers have 3 division games remaining. I know that sounds gloom. They are all on the road. 3 of their last 4 games on the road! I think maybe @ Seattle will suprise the 49ers and they will go 12-4. Now the next question will be can we win @ Tennessee? This will be a tough game I expect. Drew doesn’t have his best games outdoors. I hope that we rely heavily on our run game and short passes for Drew. Mix in some playaction. I think Hasselback might target the TE against Roman Harper a few times. I’m just saying!
Agree with you BA
I think the MNF game will get the 9ers. Don’t look past the Cards. That team is really starting to play better and they have the weaponry to give the 9ers problems. The biggest thing that may help us is Patrick Willis being sidelined for a few games. That D will def miss him and give us a chance to slide into the 2 spot if we can take care of business on the road over the next 2 weeks. With road losses to TB and the Rams, I’m not too confident of our road efforts.
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by Saint for life on Dec 6, 2011 12:20 PM CST up reply actions
Didn't Gore have a hammy in that last game too?
R.I.P. Andy Rooney
by cajuncommando58 on Dec 6, 2011 3:13 PM CST up reply actions
The O Line is bittersweet.
The O Line gives Brees enough time to find a reciever BUT can’t seem to open holes/lanes for the run game. Our most effective runs come on sweeps and pitch back plays to the outside to Sproles & Ingram. I hate seeing Sproles get the ball for runs up the middle because he’s tackled immediately and I REALLY don’t want him to get injured since he’s our “X-Factor”. Until the O Line is able to open lanes for our RBs, I’ll continue to grade them “C”. Tenn is a nervous game for me because their D practices against C Johnson on a daily basis. If our O Line don’t start opening lanes, I see this being a shootout and Hasslebeck already beat us in playoffs last year.
Playoffs. Did you say PLAYOFFS? Playoffs!!!!
Our fat punk kicker, Garrett Hartley, missed a game-winner and we lost for the second week in a row - Scott Fujita in 2009
by Ragin Who Dat on Dec 6, 2011 1:47 PM CST up reply actions
Gilmore is not so much a tight end
as he is a third tackle who plays closer to the sideline than Strief or Bushrod. To grade him on receptions or pasas receiving ability is like judging Mark Ingram on how well he throws the football. Gilmore was brought in to block and he does it well. Without his blocking, it would be a different picture. This offense DOES want to have a second pass-receiving TE- that was Dave Thomas and he got injured.
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9-3 baby!!
I spent 8 years trying to reach him...and then another 7 trying to keep him locked up because I realized what was living behind that boy's eyes was purely and simply...Evil.
Dr. Sam Loomis Aka (Donald Pleasence)
Marshawn helped too but....
While most have memories of Lynch running through the whole team, I vividly remember Hasselbeck’s lobs for TDs to take the lead and Lynch putting the icing on the cake.
That C- is a bit generous for Nicks
I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone dominate him like Fairley did. Fairley literally threw him out of the way on one early play. I would hate to have to face the Lions in the post season with both Suh and Fairley across the line. Scary stuff.
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