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Jeff Duncan Calls Out The Real JShock

Not long after learning about the release of Saints tight end Jeremy Shockey, Jeff Duncan let the world know his - and apparently many others - true feelings via his Twitter account...

Folks least upset about the Shockey release: The Nola media. Can't think of a player more universally reviled by local reporters. Shockey was so difficult to deal with, most reporters just avoided him altogether. Even Saints staffers hated having to deal with him.

Reviled? Those are some harsh words, particularly for a reporter who chooses each one ever so carefully.

Can't say I'm surprised though, given Duncan was the one who ran with this article last off-season, exposing Shockey and calling him a distraction. I can just see him sitting before a glowing computer screen in a dark room, rolling his hands together and cackling menacingly as he types each word. 

Of course Jeff made sure there was little to no chance the Saints would re-sign Shockey - as they did with Bobby McCray last season - before his airing of grievances...

Loomis & Payton's comments on Shockey have a hint of finality. In other words, they don't indicate the team is interested in re-signing him.

Star-divide

The truth is that Duncan is probably right. I'm sure Shockey was a pain in the ass to deal with as a reporter. NY Giants beat writer Ralph Vacchiano has apparently got his own war stories...

@jeffduncantp And to think, we softened him up for you.    

Even in my own personal limited experience - and by limited I mean that one time - I think I've seen what these guys are talking about. 

The problem is that Jeff thinks we give a crap whether Shockey made his job more difficult. Hell, I think that makes me like the Shockmeister even more. Fortunately, he came to New Orleans to play football and win a championship, not cater to the local media. I admit it might be selfish of me but, I care much more about what Shockey does on the field than whether or not he's personable or likable. Does it help? Absolutely. Is it necessary? Not for me. Obviously Jeff isn't going to share my fan-centric point of view. 

Duncan's comments probably would have been more appropriate in private over a $12 cocktail at Cure with fellow sports writing cronies Allee-Walsh, Triplett, Holder et al. I would have assumed calling out a player like that to be a journalism no-no. And doing it right after said player is released and never during their tenure doesn't look cool. Even if they are accurate, I'm not sure what purpose they were meant to serve. I think Dr. Melfi would agree there are some deeper issues there.   

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Exactly!
The media likes to think they matter more than they do.

"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!

by David "Satch" Kelly on Feb 23, 2011 9:41 AM CST up reply actions  

anti-rec

How is printing the truth a “hatchet piece”? Other than this article, I can’t recall Duncan being critical of Shockey and I think I’d remember because I LOVE that stuff. The vicodin issue is still unresolved. I don’t have a problem with anyone bringing it up, lest we forget.

If you don’t want Duncan to report your bad behavior, stop getting caught behaving badly. If you want a homer newspaper, read that Houma rag.

And like a fool I mixed them and it strangled up my mind
And now people just get uglier and I have no sense of time

by stujo4 on Feb 23, 2011 10:58 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

well...if u dont know..

that Houma rag is owned by the Times-Pic…

by B_Robichaux31 on Feb 23, 2011 11:01 AM CST up reply actions  

If you want a homer newspaper, read that Houma rag.

Did the T-P relocate?

"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Feb 23, 2011 11:01 AM CST up reply actions  

no

its always been in the toilet. T-P, Houma D-C and Daily Comet all affiliated and owned in the end by the NY Times

by B_Robichaux31 on Feb 23, 2011 11:03 AM CST up reply actions  

Duncan works for the Times-Picayune, right? I’m trying to remember the last time I read that pile of garbage. Oh, that’s right. It was when my dog circled a Kibbles ’n Bits ad in urine.

"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Feb 23, 2011 7:18 AM CST reply actions  

I wish we could revolt and have all the contributors of CSC take over that garbage they call a paper. I wonder who would step up and write for the non sports sections. We may need more than the 7 at the bottom of the screen. Dave your the leader figure something out, pronto.

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by cscmember on Feb 23, 2011 7:45 AM CST up reply actions  

I’d be willing to submit a daily cartoon, but it would be one of those real half a** ones. You know, like when Bil Keane goes on vacation and the Family Circus consists of nothing more than a trail of footprints all over the backyard.

"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Feb 23, 2011 7:50 AM CST up reply actions  

Not really supporting the media

But being a PROFESSIONAL means you have to deal with situations/people you may not like. Most of us have to…

by Pathomaniac on Feb 23, 2011 7:37 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

I care, but not a lot.

I care a little about how they are with the media, but I care most about whether or not they or great teammates and I’m convinced Shockey was that. He totally signed on to the culture of team first and contributed to the best season the Saints ever had and of course the SB.

I think it’s great to call Jeff Duncan out on his lack of professionalism no matter how much it’s a settled fact that he is in fact a hack.

"I am a Saints player. Look, sir" Patrick Robinson

by CrazyforColston on Feb 23, 2011 7:38 AM CST reply actions  

are not or

"I am a Saints player. Look, sir" Patrick Robinson

by CrazyforColston on Feb 23, 2011 7:39 AM CST up reply actions  

It’s freaking football. Do I care what the heck any hack reporter thinks about anybody on the Saints team?? Hells no. I don’t read their articles, I rely on the not-biased bloggers here to get my information. I know that when I need someone to tell it to me straight, I can come here to the cronic. Sorry I couldn’t get the entire post in the sarcasm font. But seriously does anyone really care what Jeff Duncan thinks about Shockey or does everyone see the game leading TD pass he got in the Superbowl and think to themselves, “Hey he helped us get a ring, as long as he’s not doing anything illegal, get off your high horse duncan!!”

by Saintsfan75 on Feb 23, 2011 7:40 AM CST reply actions  

The guy played hard for this team

and played hard for his teammates. thats all that matters to me. Media loves to cry foul. The guy doesn’t want to talk to you because all you’re going to do is badger him about his past with the Giants instead of talking about the game in front of him LIKE YOU’RE SUPPOSED TO DO and now you wanna call him reviled. Whatever Jeff Duncan….

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by born in areacode 318 on Feb 23, 2011 8:02 AM CST reply actions  

My thoughts exactly.

This tool (J. Duncan) is trying to get some attention out of someone losing their job. So what he didn’t want to speak to the media. Get a life Jeff.

"I want the gas pedal down." Sean Payton
I'm a Saints fan--Hubby's a Bears fan.

by SaintsChick on Feb 23, 2011 9:12 AM CST up reply actions  

Poll (pole)

I voted “no” because they’re all adults, but I also don’t care if Jeff Duncan and co. rant about how they fell about a player.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qais_eGMnWk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39GH-nzrY_I&feature=relatde

by tlsk1066 on Feb 23, 2011 8:04 AM CST reply actions  

Well, maybe the tweet served a higher purpose

now, in the slow offseason, Jeff has a fresh Sunday morning column idea that he didn’t have before (public outcry to my fact-based tweet about Shockey)

and he gets to sport an “I buck the popular mainstream thought” with my differing opinion – he’s a maverick, alright.

Happiness is a warm blanket.

by Hans Petersen on Feb 23, 2011 8:44 AM CST reply actions  

What a coward......

Why would u talk about someone negatively when they are out the door?! Oh wait… Probably because he doesn’t have the balls to do so! Of course I am not a man, but if u have an issue with me tell me to my face. Don’t turn to the computer screen and talk about me!

by SaintsGirlnMS on Feb 23, 2011 8:50 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

He doesn't have the guts to tell it to J Shocks face

He knows what’d happen if he did… Jeff’s a punk.

"I want the gas pedal down." Sean Payton
I'm a Saints fan--Hubby's a Bears fan.

by SaintsChick on Feb 23, 2011 9:13 AM CST up reply actions  

Stennis rest stop, Saturday night @2am. See you there, assuming you’re man enough to show.

"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Feb 23, 2011 9:24 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I had no idea that coldpizza was on the down low. Shocking.

And like a fool I mixed them and it strangled up my mind
And now people just get uglier and I have no sense of time

by stujo4 on Feb 23, 2011 11:00 AM CST up reply actions  

Saturday night’s all right for fighting.

"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Feb 23, 2011 11:02 AM CST up reply actions  

LOL!!!

2010 is cuzzin's breakout year...run with that chip bruh!

by TAYDIGGA on Feb 23, 2011 1:45 PM CST up reply actions  

LOL!!!

2010 is cuzzin's breakout year...run with that chip bruh!

by TAYDIGGA on Feb 23, 2011 1:45 PM CST up reply actions  

That was a bit petty by Duncan.

Shockey was a fan favorite, and he has to know this. And I understand the move the team made, but I wouldn’t be so sure that Shockey might not be back. There was no sense in signing him to a new contract before the CBA expires on March 4 without a new CBA in place. It’s possible they could bring him back for less than the $4 million a year they were paying for a short-term deal. And as for dealing with the media, I understand that a player should be professional and deal with them as such, but come on, Duncan.

by Nabb1 on Feb 23, 2011 9:23 AM CST reply actions  

Shockey’s not a fan favorite of those people who showed up at Mike’s Den. They must be hacks too.

And like a fool I mixed them and it strangled up my mind
And now people just get uglier and I have no sense of time

by stujo4 on Feb 23, 2011 11:02 AM CST up reply actions  

Well, that’s not so nice.

by Nabb1 on Feb 23, 2011 1:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Perhaps someone is cruising for a bruising. And no, I don’t mean Basia.

"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Feb 23, 2011 9:27 AM CST reply actions  

I love it when sports figures or anyone else for that matter piss all over the media.

I never understood why a reporter feels like they can write anything they want and then expect everyone to love them.

We can't win at home. We can't win on the road. I just can't figure out where else to play!
-- Pat Williams

by Fat Punk Kicker on Feb 23, 2011 9:29 AM CST reply actions  

Jeff Duncan? who care what he thinks..he used the Saints sucess to make a name for hisself,writing a book,always on sports show’s..I cant stand the guy,Shockey doesnt have to talk to any of these reporters..Go back and read some of JD SmartA@@ comments about the team,an players..You know players read the papers too..

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WHO DAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by SAINTS#12 on Feb 23, 2011 9:46 AM CST reply actions  

kennywilkerson @jeffduncantp watch your step, sandy. there’s only room for one ostracized know-it-all in this town.

"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Feb 23, 2011 9:53 AM CST reply actions  

hahaha

"I am a Saints player. Look, sir" Patrick Robinson

by CrazyforColston on Feb 23, 2011 10:47 AM CST up reply actions  

haha!!!!

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by Dave Cariello on Feb 23, 2011 11:05 AM CST up reply actions  

Peter Pan reference?

Sandy Duncan – nice.

Happiness is a warm blanket.

by Hans Petersen on Feb 23, 2011 11:32 AM CST up reply actions  

Eloquent, yet to the point.

I’ll rec it.

"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Feb 23, 2011 10:57 AM CST up reply actions  

He knows a douche when he sees one.

Had to rec it.

"My rule of life prescribed as an absolutely sacred rite smoking cigars and also the drinking of alcohol before, after and if need be during all meals and in the intervals between them."-Winston Churchill

by cscmember on Feb 23, 2011 11:12 AM CST up reply actions  

Tom

Any specific names you want? or will those do?

"Aristotle was not Belgian. The central message of Buddhism is not 'every man for himself.' And the London Underground is not a political movement. Those are all mistakes, Otto. I looked 'em up."

by jeff.l.b on Feb 23, 2011 11:38 AM CST up reply actions  

Strange, for some reason the other names i had listed didn’t post. hunts down the ghost in the machine

"Aristotle was not Belgian. The central message of Buddhism is not 'every man for himself.' And the London Underground is not a political movement. Those are all mistakes, Otto. I looked 'em up."

by jeff.l.b on Feb 23, 2011 11:39 AM CST up reply actions  

Are you, like, a deputy now?

Really: is this just a statement of preference, or are you flashing a badge? Because I can support the rule of not calling names when it’s directed against other members of the community…but when it’s directed against anyone on the planet? Isn’t that a little too much like kindergarten?

It was worth the wait.

by MtnExile on Feb 23, 2011 1:28 PM CST up reply actions  

well, I am a preschool teacher

and I don’t like name calling – it’s just mean and not helpful, no matter whom it is directed toward.

Happiness is a warm blanket.

by Hans Petersen on Feb 23, 2011 1:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Even if you apply the “I’m rubber, you’re glue” code of business conduct?

"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Feb 23, 2011 1:52 PM CST up reply actions  

ha! good one

just keep those materials in the Art Area and it’s all good…

Happiness is a warm blanket.

by Hans Petersen on Feb 23, 2011 5:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Haha!

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by Dave Cariello on Feb 23, 2011 5:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Okay

…just so long as you’re not going to make any “arrests.”

It was worth the wait.

by MtnExile on Feb 23, 2011 2:43 PM CST up reply actions  

This.

If someone insults someone else here, then yeah, I get calling them out. But to call Jeff Duncan a douche (calling a spade a spade in my opinion) that should be fine.

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by Jon Banks on Feb 23, 2011 2:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Seriously? Wow. This has taken a turn for the surreal.

"They're ready to be like 'Same Old Saints'" - Roman Harper, on each of the New Orleans Saints vanquished foes of 2009

by Hollywoo! on Feb 23, 2011 2:27 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Nothing wrong with Hans stating his opinion and asking for a bit of maturity if possible. I would redact my “douche” statement, but unfortunately the NFLPA has not given me enough time to review the material at hand.

"Aristotle was not Belgian. The central message of Buddhism is not 'every man for himself.' And the London Underground is not a political movement. Those are all mistakes, Otto. I looked 'em up."

by jeff.l.b on Feb 23, 2011 2:46 PM CST up reply actions  

I would appreciate if you use the more formal “douche bag”. Also, if you could say it in a George Takei voice, that would be exquisite.

"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Feb 23, 2011 2:57 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah

it’s also one of our community guidelines…

Happiness is a warm blanket.

by Hans Petersen on Feb 23, 2011 5:39 PM CST up reply actions  

"Hell, I think that makes me like the Shockmeister even more"

Bingo. Now, let’s see Jeff write something bad about Jason David.

It was worth the wait.

by MtnExile on Feb 23, 2011 11:17 AM CST reply actions  

Like Jason David?

God already worked one miracle a year ago…Can’t ask him to do THAT much heavy lifting for us…

"Gowin on fourth and 14 will punt it away. He hangs it very high, angling it for the near sideline...HAKIM DROPS THE BALL!!! HAKIM DROPS THE BALL!! Brian Milne might've fallen on it at the ten yard line! It's the New Orleans Saints' football! Brian Milne, the most unlikely hero of them all, falls on the fumble, the muff by Hakim! There is a God after all!" -- Jim Henderson

by hakimdropstheball on Feb 23, 2011 12:55 PM CST up reply actions  

I hate Duncan and I can totally understand...

why he doesn’t want to talk to the media. I’ve been in the newsroom and trust me bias is as prevalent as the sex drive. We’d be watching a sports event and a reporter would say, “Oh, I hate____!” Someone would ask why and the hater would utter some personal and weird reason for hating the player. Then they’d go off and write an opinion piece about the player and every time they’d mention that player or entertainer it had a tinge of hate in it. Not all writers were like this but tons of them are and I don’t agree with it.

At the end of the day, it’s a game that has evolved into a billion dollar industry. Yet, it’s still a game. These players are under a microscope and it’s tough to hear your name printed and talked about in reference to things you may or may not have done. It’s tough to hear rumors about your personal life; it’s tough to see newspaper and blog forums with people calling you names, judging you for your mistakes and etc., and they’ve never even met you. Money doesn’t change that! So, I’m with Shockey, yeah I’m sure he was a jerk to them and if I was a reporter I’d be a little peeved but I’d also probably figure out a way to get Jeremy to talk by not being a jerk myself.

Duncan is not a reporter, he’s a spin doctor—there’s a difference!

2010 is cuzzin's breakout year...run with that chip bruh!

by TAYDIGGA on Feb 23, 2011 1:42 PM CST reply actions  

Jeff Duncan loathes being called a reporter. He is a Beat Writer. Or something. But not a reporter.

And like a fool I mixed them and it strangled up my mind
And now people just get uglier and I have no sense of time

by stujo4 on Feb 23, 2011 7:05 PM CST up reply actions  

right

He explains his job here.

And like a fool I mixed them and it strangled up my mind
And now people just get uglier and I have no sense of time

by stujo4 on Feb 23, 2011 10:43 PM CST up reply actions  

he should loathe it...

Because if he was a reporter there would be far less bias in his stuff. Beat writers are basically the same thing except they have a specific area to cover on the regular but since this is sports there’s more room for opinions.

2010 is cuzzin's breakout year...run with that chip bruh!

by TAYDIGGA on Feb 26, 2011 1:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Was Jeff's daddy a reporter for the Green Bay Gazette?

According to legend, Vince Lombardi was once questioned by a reporter regarding the negative impact his “winning is everything” philosophy might have on young people’s attitudes towards good sportsmanship. He suggested to the reporter that perhaps if he applied that same philosophy to himself, he might be somewhere else writing an investigative essay worthy of a Pulitzer Prize for Journalism instead of standing there asking dumb questions in the middle of a blizzard in Green Bay, Wisconsin.

Vince and Jeremy may have shared a similar view of mediocre sports writers with over-inflated egos.

by Drew-Dat on Feb 23, 2011 3:51 PM CST reply actions  

Vince Lombardi was once questioned by a reporter regarding the negative impact his "winning is everything" philosophy might have on young people’s attitudes towards good sportsmanship.

And yet, Coach never answered the question. Talk about a douche bag. (Sorry, Hans.)

And like a fool I mixed them and it strangled up my mind
And now people just get uglier and I have no sense of time

by stujo4 on Feb 23, 2011 7:06 PM CST up reply actions  

again, with the names

Why can’t we all just play together nicely?

Happiness is a warm blanket.

by Hans Petersen on Feb 23, 2011 7:24 PM CST up reply actions  

The Lord Stanley of Preston was a douche bag, also.

Conclusion: if you want to name an epic trophy after someone, look no further than a douche bag.

And this year’s Stujo4 Super Bowl MVP award goes to ….

Sorry, couldn’t resist.

"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Feb 23, 2011 11:16 PM CST up reply actions  

At least I'm not on the down low

Not that there’s anything wrong with that. But be safe, please.

And like a fool I mixed them and it strangled up my mind
And now people just get uglier and I have no sense of time

by stujo4 on Feb 24, 2011 11:36 AM CST up reply actions  

Cracker, please.

"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Feb 24, 2011 12:02 PM CST up reply actions  

LOL, hilarious...

coldpizza you live in Atlanta?

2010 is cuzzin's breakout year...run with that chip bruh!

by TAYDIGGA on Feb 26, 2011 1:45 PM CST up reply actions  

I meet Jeremy last summer

and he seemed to be a great guy. He was very nice to me, a fan. I’m sure Jeremy can act a fool or treat someone he doesn’t like badly. I know, I don’t like Jeff Duncan and Jeff Duncan would like me either if I meet him.

Please, burn the black pants!!

by Big and Easy on Feb 23, 2011 7:54 PM CST reply actions  

After all the trash talking & writing

from the NY area reporters while he was a Giant, its no wonder why he shuns them altogether. If you are going to quote someone in an article it would be nice to quote it correctly and not a twisted version because you don’t like them. I think most of the bad press concerning Jeremy was due to the people he hung out with in NY and being vocal about Eli Manning’s ability to lead the team at that time. As most people in the NY/NJ area know the sports writers up here are very critical about players whether its football/hockey/basketball or baseball. Maybe Jeff should re-locate up here he would fit right in with the rest of the sport writing hacks.

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by N_O_1saintfan on Feb 23, 2011 11:10 PM CST reply actions  

JD is coming off like a jealous kid

At least to me. Like he secretly wishes he could be JS or get more attention by the hot jock but since he can’t get either he’d rather just talk smack now that JS is more than likely gone for good.

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by SarahT on Feb 25, 2011 3:41 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

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