Who Would You Rather? QB Edition
by GRlZZ on Mar 3, 2011 4:29 AM CST
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PrintHere we are again, this time it's a little more of an easy question, Who would you rather (out of our options) start at QB. But instead of the obvious choice, let's go with the 2nd string QB for the 2011 season.
Drew Brees is our starting QB and our team leader, but if he goes down, who would you trust most to go in his place?
Current Saints Roster: 
Chase is now going on 3 seasons with the Saints and has a career that consists of 2 completions on 3 attempts, 16 yards, no TDs, 2 rushes for 16 yards (which actually puts him at 29th in the league last year in YPR...for "all players"...) and 1 fumble (that was not lost). So...yeah not much experience in our young 2nd string QB. But maybe in his 3rd season under Breesus' wings he will develop into a beautiful falcon swan. The only "real" action we've seen from Daniel is preseason, which his stat line looks as follows:
48 Attempts, 31 Completions, 369 Yds, 4 TDs, 3 Ints, 89.7 QB Rating
Not too bad, but it IS preseason...
Sean Canfield:
We picked up Canfield in the 2010 draft, and he bounced on and off our practice squad all season. Currently he is on our official roster, but who knows what'll be of him by the start of the 2011 season. He was a 7th rounder, so we didn't expect too much of him, and honeslty I really doubt he'll be back next year.
Notable Free Agents: 
Kerry Collins- A former Saint, maybe he could play one more season and retire a Saint?
Trent Edwards- Always had potential...but now all he has is potential to be a backup.
Chad Pennington- A solid starter his career, now a solid 2nd stringer.
other FA's include:
Rex Grossman (bleh)
*Panthers offered tender March 2nd
Rookies: 
I really doubt we'd use one of our first draft picks on a QB so I'll search for a few later round prospects we could be targeting.
- Greg McElroy: Alabama's wonderlic acing (almost) QB. Not sure if his draft stock rose from his combine, but looks to be a 4-6 round pick. Has a great attitude (from what I've seen) and hey he's led his team to a National Championship before.
- Josh Portis: We know the Saints love reaching for those small school guys...have you ever heard of California? Oh not that one...I mean California University of Pennsylvania, aka: "CUP". Yeah...well he's 6'4" 200 lbs, and ran his 40 in 4.62 seconds, had the highest vertical at 40 inches, and not that bad of a TD to INT ratio in college: 69:17. So why not make a project with him on a late round pick?
Well that's all I've got for now...now it's your turn. Who would you rather for our 2nd string QB?
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I voted for Trent Edwards, as I’d be fine with any 27 year old Stanford graduate with considerable starting experience and a 70+ career passer rating. That said, Tyler Thigpen is the guy I’m most interested in. Lefty, slightly younger, more mobile, probably more upside. Disregard that vote and add one to “Other FA QB”.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
Considering the list I went with other FA QB….specifically I’d probably go Losman
"Aristotle was not Belgian. The central message of Buddhism is not 'every man for himself.' And the London Underground is not a political movement. Those are all mistakes, Otto. I looked 'em up."
If Losman wasn’t about to make 30 yrs old, I’d agree. Same goes for Boller. Just getting tired of this same topic every 2 or 3 years. I’d be ok with Matt Moore or Alex Smith, though from everything I’ve read, Harbaugh intends on bringing Smith back as the 49ers’ starter.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
Boller would probably be the best fit of anyone, considering how often the Saints pass. Guy’s still got a cannon. He forces the ball a lot though, and has been an injury concern in recent years. Still, you could do a lot worse for a backup.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
Agreed… As much as Grossman sucks, he is better than Russell.
"It's more than a handful. It's a handsful."
Well, that and when you blow on him both his shoulders dislocate.
by theprogrammerman on Mar 3, 2011 3:21 PM CST up reply actions
I thought you were listing QB's:
JaMarcus Russell
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"In fact with that article from today that had him real lean and everything, I think I’m going to play him at corner this week in place of Tracy Porter."-Greg Williams in refefernce to Sedrick Ellis
Chase
because with free agency there is little to no chance of developing QB’s any longer. Green Bay found out how lucky they were when Rodgers went down and they nearly beat the Patriots with a 7th round backup. Let’s see what he can do, while bringing in someone else in case he falls flat on his face.
"In fact with that article from today that had him real lean and everything, I think I’m going to play him at corner this week in place of Tracy Porter."-Greg Williams in refefernce to Sedrick Ellis
Except now that 7th round backup is getting talk about being trade bait for as high as a third round pick and change.
"Aristotle was not Belgian. The central message of Buddhism is not 'every man for himself.' And the London Underground is not a political movement. Those are all mistakes, Otto. I looked 'em up."
Exactly. There’s nothing wrong with turning a profit by showcasing QBs below a proven starter. Just because you have them, doesn’t mean you have to depend on them. Matt Schaub and Charlie Whitehurst are two fine examples of that. Kevin Kolb is bound to become another. Unfortunately, Marc Bulger, Jake Delhomme and J.T. O’Sullivan were all allowed to walk without compensation. Parlay an UDFA into a pick or two, replace him with another guy you didn’t spend a pick on who’s just as good, if not better … and you’re truly rolling.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
Green Bay found out how lucky they were when Rodgers went down and they nearly beat the Patriots with a 7th round backup.
If that’s your definition of lucky. Maybe they actually DO beat them, with a better backup. To me, Jeff Hostetler is an example of lucky. Tom Brady is an example of extremely lucky, though Gisele does admittedly factor into that. As it stands, Chase Daniel is little more than a latter day Tyler Palko and will remain so … until he “almost” beats a good team in a playoff game, apparently. At which point he becomes Matt Flynn. At which point, you wisely sell high … as he’s still far more likely to remain Don Strock over the long haul, than the become the next Kurt Warner.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
did I miss something
or did McNabb resign with the Redskins? So far as I know, he’s a free agent along with all the others on that list, and he’s clearly the best option. Of course, Donovan would never accept a strictly backup role, but neither would Favre, nor likely Pennington, Hasselbeck, Russell, or Smith. But that doesn’t seem to be relevant to your question.
McNabb signed a 6 year contract with Washington last November.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
No, it was a six year deal
But the way it is written, they can drop him any time up to I believe the end of training camp and not take a cap hit on it.
by theprogrammerman on Mar 6, 2011 11:24 AM CST up reply actions
That’s any contract, provided you pay his entire signing bonus. Regardless, he’s not a free agent.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
I thought there was specific language in the contract that meant they could drop him if they wanted to
Or was it that there was just no signing bonus & the media blew it out of proportion?
13.
11/15/2010: Signed a six-year, $89.2 million contract. The deal included a $3.5 million signing bonus and $13.75 million in the first year, all told. Another $10 million is available through incentives, although they are based on annual Super Bowl appearances and “unlikely to be earned.” McNabb is eligible for annual $250,000 workout bonuses in years two through six. 2011: $1.75 million (+ $10 million option bonus + $750,000 in per-game roster bonuses), 2012: $11.5 million (+ $750,000 in per-game roster bonuses), 2013: $12.5 million (+ $1.5 million in per-game roster bonuses), 2014: $13 million (+ $3 million in per-game roster bonuses), 2015: $12.75 million (+ $2.25 million in per-game roster bonuses), 2016: Free Agent
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
Pennington already excepted the backup roll last year before he got hurt.
"Aristotle was not Belgian. The central message of Buddhism is not 'every man for himself.' And the London Underground is not a political movement. Those are all mistakes, Otto. I looked 'em up."
yeah, he probably doesn't belong on that list
As I remember, though, that was a unique situation with him just coming back from his third shoulder surgery to help mentor Henne.
Of course, Donovan would never accept a strictly backup role, but neither would Favre, nor likely Pennington, Hasselbeck, Russell, or Smith.
I wouldn’t say those guys would “never” accept a backup role. Especially Russell! Yeah he’s a 1st rounder but I’m sure he even knows he has to work his way back into a starting job. Pennington was a backup last year (until he got injured on his little play time that he recieved) and guys like him, solid QB’s that never amount to anything, at a certain age become backups on winning teams. Yeah some of those guys should could still start somewhere like Arizona, Buffalo, or somewhere with no solid QB option.
Agreed. Smith rode the bench behind both O’Sullivan and Hill. Whitehurst started 2 games last season over Hasselbeck. Reluctantly I’m sure, but there are only 32 starting jobs to go around. If there simply aren’t any “good chance to start” situations out there, those two along with Russell would be willing to accept a backup role. And as far as contentment goes, let’s not kid ourselves. If the right situation manifests itself while they happen to be out of contract, ANY quarterback is going to opt for the better opportunity to start. Chase Daniel is no different than Jeff Garcia, in that regard. The only true difference there is the demand the latter’s reputation as a spot starter has spawned over the years. It’s a snowball effect and they’d all gladly roll with it, if there were enough needy teams to go around. Favre and Pennington are done, though. And McNabb’s locked up. And Smith is likely to re-sign with the 49ers, even if they draft another franchise QB (from what I’ve read).
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
that's a fair point
Almost every guy is going to accept the paycheck even if it is a bit of knock on his ego. I honestly don’t think Russell would, and I’m pretty sure Favre wouldn’t.
Whitehurst only started one game after Hasselbeck got hurt, and then the final game, which was a weird decision, but yeah, point taken. But I think Matt would be similar to Carson Palmer in that sense – it’s not like he needs the money and he might just as soon retire as hold the clipboard.
That’s possible. It’s tough to say with long time starters, because you don’t really know how much they’re looking forward to the next chapter in their lives. The relatively gravy job of holding a clipboard versus “what’s the point?” or “been there, done that” in some cases. Still, guys like Kerry Collins, Vinny Testaverde and Steve DeBerg have gone from starters to long time backups. I do agree that we seem to be seeing less and less of that.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
Russell should realize that
but he hasn’t exactly shown himself to be very aware of reality! The way he spoke during the last interview of him I saw was remarkable. He still seemed to have that sense of entitlement. I think he even said something to the effect of not accepting a backup role.
Bulger is likely another one that isn’t particularly interested in a backup role, but if that’s all he was offered I imagine he would take it.
Soo...
so far we’ve got just stick with Chase leading, we need no backup in a close second, and Greg McElroy in 3rd…
Daniel is peachy keen, at least until he enters a critical game divisional game due to Brees suffering a mild concussion and performs up to Curtis Painter standards. That’s when everyone will be pulling their hair out, screaming “why didn’t we go after a guy with experience when we had the chance?” Sure, if Brees goes down early in the season and gets place on IR, odds are it doesn’t matter. At the same time, there ARE situations more temporary when backup QBs come into play. Not ALL potential disaster scenarios call for Frank Reich heroics. Some are salvageable, just by not having the wrong guy under center. To disregard that based on nothing more than the fact that “we all love a good underdog story” just seems a bit foolhearty to me.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
Daniel
I think he really deserves to be backup and I think he would do good. No where near brees right now, but looking at him give plays in the huddle, it just looks like he has some authority. He seems pretty agressive and I think with time, he will be a good one.
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