2011 NFL Mock Draft: The Washington Redskins Select...
by Dave Cariello on Mar 30, 2011 12:00 PM CDT
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PrintWith the tenth pick of the 2011 CSC Community Mock Draft, the Washington Redskins (represented by VAsaintsfan) select...
Julio Jones, WR, Alabama
Picking for the Redskins is a bit of a blessing for me, in that there is such a lack of talent on the team that almost every position can be viewed as upgradable. Dan Snyder tries so hard that it's almost sad to watch. He tries for Ruth's Chris, but ends up with Denny's. You can't complain about Snyder's willingness to spend money, but the problem is that all of that money is going towards players that are either a bad fit for the team's scheme or too far past their prime to matter. Snyder says he has handed off some control of the team to GM Bruce Allen, but after running the franchise into the ground for the past decade, do we really think he's about to stop now?
So when making this pick, I tried to get into the mind of Dan Snyder. As a fantasy football owner, it wasn't all that hard for me to get into the mindset of a man that runs his organization like a fantasy football team. But delving into the mind of Dan Snyder led me to hours of pondering how to convert Kenny Powers into a two sport athlete. After it was brought to my attention that Kenny Powers is a fictional character, I decided on the more practical approach of looking at the most glaring of the team's many needs.
The first thing that pops out as a need for the Redskins is...well...everything. The defense gave up 389 yards per game last year. That's good enough for the 2nd most yards given up in the league. The run and pass defenses were almost equally horrible. Fat Albert Haynesworth has become a malcontent and hasn't made any meaningful impact other than causing a rather large indention in the bench. DeAngelo Hall made it to the Pro Bowl, only serving to prove that people voting for the Pro Bowl don't watch Redskins games. Brian Orakpo was the lone bright spot on the defense and should be a star for as long as Washington can hold onto him. Nick Fairely and Robert Quinn are both very tempting picks here to help fix a D-line that can't create anything remotely resembling a pass rush. In the end, I think Washington has been burned on players with work ethic and character issues enough to pass on them for more of a sure thing.
Until free agency starts, the offense is looking like a shell of its former mediocre self that we saw last year. Clinton Portis is gone, leaving Ryan Torain as the starting RB. When Torain gets injured (he WILL get injured) it's anyone's guess who will be filling in. Ingramania would go over very well in DC, but I doubt Washington will address that need in the first round. Donavon McNabb is on his last legs, and QB could be an option if Newton and Gabbert weren't off the board. That brings us to WR. Santana Moss has been a solid producer for years, but he's hitting free agency this offseason with no guarantee of being back next year. Even if he does come back, how much could he possibly have left in the tank? That leaves Anthony Armstrong as the go to guy in Landover. That is just unacceptable.
Enter Julio Jones. Quite possibly the best receiver in the draft, Jones has all of the tools to be an elite deep threat at the pro level. The Redskins are one team that puts a lot of stock into combine workouts. Last year they took Trent Williams over the more talented Russell Okung based on an impressive 40 time. Julio Jones put up a 4.39 40 at the combine, and definitely solidified his spot as a top notch prospect. We all saw what Donavon McNabb was able to do when the Eagles gave him Desean Jackson. Julio Jones has speed in the same range as Jackson, and the Redskins will be looking to get the same kind of results. And most importantly, Jones will bring a level of excitement back to Washington that will make the Redskins relevant again. Dan Snyder has almost 92,000 seats to fill at FedEx field, and there are going to be a lot of empty seats if the ‘Skins don't give their fans something to look forward to. The big play potential that Jones brings to the field could be the source of hope that this franchise desperately needs.
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Below are the complete results from our community mock draft.
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| Pick | Team | Selection | Team Representative | Approval Rating |
| 1 | Carolina Panthers | QB Cam Newton - Auburn | DatFan | 35% |
| 2 | Denver Broncos | DT Marcell Dareus - Alabama | Jeff.l.b | 71% |
| 3 | Buffalo Bills | QB Blaine Gabbert - Missouri | SpreeGoogs | 52% |
| 4 | Cincinnati Bengals | DE Da'Quan Bowers - Clemson | coldpizza | 73% |
| 5 | Arizona Cardinals | CB Patrick Peterson - LSU | GRIZZ | 61% |
| 6 | Cleveland Browns | DE Cameron Jordan - Cal | theprogrammerman | 11% |
| 7 | San Francisco 49ers | LB Von Miller - Texas A&M | who dat patate | 68% |
| 8 | Tennessee Titans | WR A.J. Green - Georgia | shipgoalie05 | 48% |
| 9 | Dallas Cowboys | CB Prince Amukamara - Nebraska | saints fan in cowboyland! | |
| 10 | Washington Redskins | WR Julio Jones - Alabama | VAsaintsfan |
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Hmmm...i voted yes, although I think indifferent would be more appropriate.
Love Julio…think he’ll be really good for the Redskins…but that defensive front is just horrid. They want to do the 3-4 but still don’t have any of the personnel. I think Quinn or Aldon Smith would have been a bigger leap for the Redskins. Overall though…i can’t really fault the Julio pick in any way shape or form. It is an obvious need given their WR failures in the draft in recent years.
"Aristotle was not Belgian. The central message of Buddhism is not 'every man for himself.' And the London Underground is not a political movement. Those are all mistakes, Otto. I looked 'em up."
I gave a lot of thought to Robert Quinn. I wanted to draft him but spending a year out of football scared me off. He is a boom or bust prospect, and in the end I just felt like Jones was more of a sure thing even though defense is probably the more pressing need at the moment.
"I want to hand this trophy to the MVP of the Super Bowl -- and the MVP of the entire league.''
-- Saints coach Sean Payton, handing the Vince Lombardi Trophy to Drew Brees after Super Bowl 44.
I hate you.
I wanted to take Julio for the Texans.
Doubt is part of all religion. All the religious thinkers were doubters.
Isaac Bashevis Singer
Considering the Texans have one of the top 5 rated offenses in the NFL with a solid passing game….yet their defense (especially secondary) is one of the worst in the league….why?
"Aristotle was not Belgian. The central message of Buddhism is not 'every man for himself.' And the London Underground is not a political movement. Those are all mistakes, Otto. I looked 'em up."
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And yes i realize that with the top 2 corners off the board corner isn’t necessarily a good option at this point…but considering they’re switting to the 3-4, they have some holes to fill at OLB and NT and 3-4DE.
"Aristotle was not Belgian. The central message of Buddhism is not 'every man for himself.' And the London Underground is not a political movement. Those are all mistakes, Otto. I looked 'em up."
The Texans have refused to address NT in 10 years of Franchise history
Trust me when I say that in the first 3 rounds, a NT will not be drafted. And OLB already has some people. It’s mostly depth they need at LB and a veteran starter at FS, SS, and corner.
Doubt is part of all religion. All the religious thinkers were doubters.
Isaac Bashevis Singer
They currently have no starter at one of their OLB spots. They have Connor on the outside with Ryans and Beefcake boy on the inside. They could definitely use a Quinn or Aldon Smith on the outside.
"Aristotle was not Belgian. The central message of Buddhism is not 'every man for himself.' And the London Underground is not a political movement. Those are all mistakes, Otto. I looked 'em up."
sigh…yes they have a body they can technically throw into the position. Let’s just say they have nobody they would WANT starting at this point…but a few people they could have start if lives depended on it.
"Aristotle was not Belgian. The central message of Buddhism is not 'every man for himself.' And the London Underground is not a political movement. Those are all mistakes, Otto. I looked 'em up."
Because Jacoby Jones has yet to step up as a legitimate WR2. I think you’re a little too stuck on drafting for top need. As long as it fills a need, there’s nothing wrong with going BPA.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
That said, Fairley’s not getting past 11. This is getting a bit ridiculous on the character concerns.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
For most teams I would agree. I think Fairley will be a top 10 pick, just not to the Redskins. After going through the Albert Haynesworth ordeal, I would definitely be gun shy about using a first round pick on a player with concerns about his work ethic.
"I want to hand this trophy to the MVP of the Super Bowl -- and the MVP of the entire league.''
-- Saints coach Sean Payton, handing the Vince Lombardi Trophy to Drew Brees after Super Bowl 44.
I also wouldn’t be surprised to see the Redskins draft Locker at 10. They’ve reportedly been big on him all along and he’s definitely not going to be around when they pick again.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
Why would they do that? Ryan Mallet will probably still be available.
"I want to hand this trophy to the MVP of the Super Bowl -- and the MVP of the entire league.''
-- Saints coach Sean Payton, handing the Vince Lombardi Trophy to Drew Brees after Super Bowl 44.
They’ve reportedly been big on him all along
“him” wasn’t in reference to Mallet.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
You know, it wouldn’t really surprise me if the Redskins drafted Locker. Like I said in the write-up, this team has been run into the ground for the past decade and drafting Locker with the 10th pick would fit right into that pattern.
"I want to hand this trophy to the MVP of the Super Bowl -- and the MVP of the entire league.''
-- Saints coach Sean Payton, handing the Vince Lombardi Trophy to Drew Brees after Super Bowl 44.
It wouldn’t be a bad pick. He’ll wind up being the best NFL QB of this class, for whatever that’s worth.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
Bold prediction. Especially considering Locker can’t throw accurately in actual game situations. I’ll go ahead and go on record saying your prediction will be wrong.
"I want to hand this trophy to the MVP of the Super Bowl -- and the MVP of the entire league.''
-- Saints coach Sean Payton, handing the Vince Lombardi Trophy to Drew Brees after Super Bowl 44.
Remember the 26-27-60 rule? Locker fails on the completion percentage and wonderlic score. Every now and then you get someone that has some success when failing 1 of the 3 criteria, but I can’t think of anyone that failed 2 and still had a lot of success at the pro level.
"I want to hand this trophy to the MVP of the Super Bowl -- and the MVP of the entire league.''
-- Saints coach Sean Payton, handing the Vince Lombardi Trophy to Drew Brees after Super Bowl 44.
Completion percentage is a poor indicator of passing accuracy. Are you implying that Chad Pennington is the most accurate passer in the league, simply because he’s completed the highest percentage of his passes? Not all passes are intended to be completed, nor are all completions accurately thrown passes. I can sail a ball 5 feet over my target’s head and have another teammate catch it downfield. That doesn’t make me a better QB than the guy who sailed one just 3 feet over his target’s head, only to fall incomplete. On top of all that, Matt Leinart graded out at 35-30-63 using your little rule. In terms of worth, that’s about as telling as a underwater queef.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
No rule is 100%, and you can add Aaron Rodgers and Ben Roethlisberger to the list of exceptions, but drafting based on the 26-27-60 rule would have saved teams the trouble of Jamarcus Russell, Ryan Leaf, David Carr, Heath Shuler, Jimmy Clausen, Jay Cutler, Joey Harrington, Tim Couch, Brady Quinn, Alex Smith, Jeff George, and Vince Young. All 1st round picks, (most of them top 5 picks) that failed at the pro level. Most of them didn’t even have half of the criticism that Locker does.
In some cases completion percentage is a poor indicator, but not with Locker. Pennington got a high completion percentage by checking down on every play. Locker has a low completion percentage because he sails the ball on short and intermediate throws. And his wonderlic score matches up well with the fact that coaches at the Senior Bowl claimed he had trouble understanding the most basic coverage schemes.
"I want to hand this trophy to the MVP of the Super Bowl -- and the MVP of the entire league.''
-- Saints coach Sean Payton, handing the Vince Lombardi Trophy to Drew Brees after Super Bowl 44.
In some cases completion percentage is a poor indicator, but not with Locker.
You do realize that his completion percentage was lower in both his freshman and sophomore seasons, don’t you? Yet, his accuracy over those first three seasons wasn’t enough of a concern to keep him from being a consensus Top 5 pick, had he come out as a junior. Yet now, one not-as-poor season later, that’s same percentage is an all-telling statistic? Yes, he’s had a few poor performances. He’s also had a number of outstanding ones. Either way, his completion percentage isn’t what you should be using to demarcate the two.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
OK, so he had a good Junior year and everybody jumped on his bandwagon. Scouts like when you show improvement. That’s fine. But when you regress like he did his Senior year that has to factor in as well. Sometimes even more so because it may mean that he has reached the plateau of his ability.
You know who else was a consensus top 5 pick? Almost every QB I named in the previous post. Scouts are wrong a lot. When it comes to first round talent, the 26-27-60 rule is just wrong less often.
"I want to hand this trophy to the MVP of the Super Bowl -- and the MVP of the entire league.''
-- Saints coach Sean Payton, handing the Vince Lombardi Trophy to Drew Brees after Super Bowl 44.
but I can’t think of anyone that failed 2 and still had a lot of success at the pro level.
Jim Kelly – 15-33-55 (two failed). HOFer.
Dan Marino – 15-44-58 (two failed). HOFer.
Steve McNair – 15-40-55 (two failed). Potential HOFer.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
Good for you. Anybody drafted in the past 15 years?
"I want to hand this trophy to the MVP of the Super Bowl -- and the MVP of the entire league.''
-- Saints coach Sean Payton, handing the Vince Lombardi Trophy to Drew Brees after Super Bowl 44.
Did intelligence, number of college starts or completion percentage become more important within the last 15 years? Sorry, I must have missed that memo.
How about this rule? Don’t draft a QB that isn’t right handed, can’t type more than 30 WPM or that has diabetes. But only within the last decade. Sure, there may be a few of exceptions — Steve Young and Boomer Esiason were southpaws — but no rule is 100%. And just look at the number of horrible quarterbacks you would have avoided over that period!
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
Considering the fact that the average NFL completion percentage has climbed 4 percentage points in the past 20 years, and the increasing complexity of offensive and defensive schemes, yeah, it has become more important.
"I want to hand this trophy to the MVP of the Super Bowl -- and the MVP of the entire league.''
-- Saints coach Sean Payton, handing the Vince Lombardi Trophy to Drew Brees after Super Bowl 44.
Those percentages have increased across the board, not just amongst successful QBs. That’s primarily due to OCs calling plays based on advanced photo analysis, as opposed to in-the-heat-of-battle, occasionally disoriented, QBs calling plays based on “what’s working”. That doesn’t make that specific stat line any more congruent to winning. As I’ve said many times prior, if every team passed on every offensive play, you’d still have a SB champion, just as you would if every team avoided passing all together. Adhering to niches in accordance with the tried and true is what ultimately makes or breaks a team, NOT simply participating in the current trend. And just for clarification purposes, I’m not saying the evolution of the game isn’t beneficial. I’m saying it isn’t advantageous to any one team — or in this case, individual skills set — in particular.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
The college game is evolving right along with the pro game, so you can’t really compare completion percentages 20 years ago to what they are now. In 1980, completing 55% of your passes would leave you secure in your job. Today it won’t. So obviously, the rule would not apply when evaluating the success of QBs from that long ago. I can give you McNair, but the comparisons of Kelly and Marino are just silly.
"I want to hand this trophy to the MVP of the Super Bowl -- and the MVP of the entire league.''
-- Saints coach Sean Payton, handing the Vince Lombardi Trophy to Drew Brees after Super Bowl 44.
In 1980, completing 55% of your passes would leave you secure in your job. Today it won’t.
That’s funny, I don’t recall Locker being benched at any point in his college career because of it.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
We’re talking NFL here CP. Only 3 teams had completion percentages of below 55% last year, 2 of them are shopping for new QBs. The other is being propped up by the best defense in the league. As a matter of fact, most teams with a completion percentage below 58% are shopping for a new QB.
"I want to hand this trophy to the MVP of the Super Bowl -- and the MVP of the entire league.''
-- Saints coach Sean Payton, handing the Vince Lombardi Trophy to Drew Brees after Super Bowl 44.
No, YOU’RE talking NFL. I’m talking NCAA. The completion percentages cited were all at the collegiate level. I fully acknowledge that too much is made of completion percentage at the pro level. Do you acknowledge that none of the three QBs I mentioned suffered at the NFL level based on their collegiate percentages? All three were at or near 60% for their NFL careers. Had they been disregarded based on some arbitrary rule centered around their collegiate numbers, the Oilers/Titans, Dolphins and Bills would have been kicking themselves, just as hard as the Panthers might be patting themselves on the back for passing on Joey Harrington in favor of an unproven Jake Delhomme. And even then, who’s to say Harrington doesn’t perform up to Delhomme’s (highly erratic) level over the long haul, if thrown on to Carolina’s roster? All it would take is a SB loss (see Rex Grossman) and an occasional brilliant game here and there to match that ignominious legacy. Michael Vick was 20-21-56 coming out of college, btw. That wasn’t anywhere close to 20 years ago.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
You could make endless arguments debating Vick’s “success” at the pro-level. I don’t think you’ll find any arguments that coming out of college, Vick was an erratic passer, immature, and inconsistent at best. It took him almost 10 years and a stint in prison to become an acceptable pocket passer. His running ability is what kept him in the league, and I doubt Jake Locker is going to be showing Mike Vick’s running ability any time soon.
"I want to hand this trophy to the MVP of the Super Bowl -- and the MVP of the entire league.''
-- Saints coach Sean Payton, handing the Vince Lombardi Trophy to Drew Brees after Super Bowl 44.
Btw, if you want to base this on averages, the average yards per attempt was 7.0 in 2010, just as it was in 2009. That means that barring a penalty or rushing attempt, a QB only had to complete 1.43 passes every 4 down series to successfully move the chains. That’s a mere 35.8 completion percentage. Good luck with that increasing importance argument. If anything, the importance of completion percentage is actually DECREASING, due to league’s increasing YPA (up from 6.8 in 2005, 6.9 in 2006-08). Which I’m sure that has quite a bit to do with the new pass defense rules, in addition to the aforementioned advancements in play-by-play breakdown, i.e., 360 degree “eye in the sky” camera rotation, etc.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
YPA has stayed between 6.5 and 7.5 for about 50 years now. The minor fluctuations from year to year are extremely insignificant from a statistical analysis standpoint. But you know that. You’re just being argumentative at this point.
"I want to hand this trophy to the MVP of the Super Bowl -- and the MVP of the entire league.''
-- Saints coach Sean Payton, handing the Vince Lombardi Trophy to Drew Brees after Super Bowl 44.
Yes. I know. That’s why I said “if anything” and specifically cited the prior six seasons. Even if they stayed EXACTLY the same, that wouldn’t support your assertion that importance of completion percentage has INCREASED. YPA would have to steadily DECREASE in order to support that. 10 yards for a first down hasn’t changed, nor will it (in all likelihood) during Jake Locker’s professional career.
The minor fluctuations from year to year are extremely insignificant from a statistical analysis standpoint.
Generally speaking, so is completion percentage.
You might find interest in this article that touches upon the importance of incompletions.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
I’m not saying the importance has increased, I’m saying that the average has increased. What was average 20 years ago is below average today. Locker’s stats would look good to me if I was a talent scout in 1980, but today, I see them and am sure I can find someone better than this chump.
"I want to hand this trophy to the MVP of the Super Bowl -- and the MVP of the entire league.''
-- Saints coach Sean Payton, handing the Vince Lombardi Trophy to Drew Brees after Super Bowl 44.
Locker’s stats would look good to me if I was a talent scout in 1980, but today, I see them and am sure I can find someone better than this chump.
Btw, if I’m a GM and you’re a talent scout that bases his player evaluations on statistics in ANY era, I wouldn’t want you within 120 yards of my payroll. I included the end zones, just to be on the safe side.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
Considering the fact that the average NFL completion percentage has climbed 4 percentage points in the past 20 years, and the increasing complexity of offensive and defensive schemes, yeah, it has become more important.
I’m not saying the importance has increased, I’m saying that the average has increased.
Say good night, Gracie.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
You’re acting like you’ve invalidated my point by taking something out of context. That’s cute.
"I want to hand this trophy to the MVP of the Super Bowl -- and the MVP of the entire league.''
-- Saints coach Sean Payton, handing the Vince Lombardi Trophy to Drew Brees after Super Bowl 44.
by VAsaintsfan on Mar 31, 2011 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions
I made a jacket for Jacoby once
He came into the store and ordered it with his mother.
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by Dave Cariello on Mar 30, 2011 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions
what kind of jacket?
or does that violate client-owner privilege?
Atheists just take a pass,
Watch football in their underpants.
by Hans Petersen on Mar 30, 2011 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Fraternity jacket
He is a Phi Beta Sigma
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by Dave Cariello on Mar 30, 2011 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Basically, outside of Andre Johnson, the Texans receivers are a bunch of suck. Andre is 30, the Texans do NOT need more rookies, they need more veterans on the defense especially the secondary. They need impact players now not rookies they have to build up for a year or two. Plus with two damn good starting receivers, the Texans run game gets better by having the same O-line personnel back and the same FB and RB. With a better running game, the horrendous Texans defense sees less of the field.
Doubt is part of all religion. All the religious thinkers were doubters.
Isaac Bashevis Singer
I was just thinking … if Houston selects Julio Jones and retains Jacoby Jones, they’re both going to have to spell out their entire first names on the back of their jerseys. Won’t all that extra twill lettering slow their WR corps down? Discuss.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
Arian Foster says it's irrelevant.
Doubt is part of all religion. All the religious thinkers were doubters.
Isaac Bashevis Singer
OMFG I just want to pinch your cheeks, every time you play that RB angle.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
I realize why that's funny to.
But the Texans are built for the run, they are a team that has the ZBS, the O-line to carry it out, one of the best full backs, and one of the best running backs in the league. Having the best WR also helps out. It’s why they are so effective running the ball and being able to play TOP. The Saints aren’t built for that…yet. We get Ingram, a workhorse back, and I’ll be arguing for a lot more carries right next to you.
Doubt is part of all religion. All the religious thinkers were doubters.
Isaac Bashevis Singer
Do they have to spell them out entirely, or can they go with Ju. Jones and Ja. Jones?
If I am good I could add years to my life / I would rather add some life to my years.
Sorry
Didn’t see your comment Jay.
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by Dave Cariello on Mar 30, 2011 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions
They don’t HAVE TO do anything but have their last names on there… even if it’s spelled the same as another player on the team (see below).
"It's more than a handful. It's a handsful."
Seeing … replica jerseys. But I did Google the actual players and there’s no first initial.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
I think they would just do Ja. Jones and Ju. Jones
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by Dave Cariello on Mar 30, 2011 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions
They won’t HAVE TO spell out their names or even use an initial…
Case in point:
"It's more than a handful. It's a handsful."
But then again, you’re talking about two cases with players who play a completely different set of positions and subsequently completely separate numbering assignments.
It would be noticeably different I’m sure if both Jahri and Heath were guards who wore numbers 73 and 72 respectively.
"Aristotle was not Belgian. The central message of Buddhism is not 'every man for himself.' And the London Underground is not a political movement. Those are all mistakes, Otto. I looked 'em up."
who's to say Julio wouldn't want to be in the 80's (a typical WR #)
Jocoby is #12.
"It's more than a handful. It's a handsful."
It’s still part of the same numbering system. 80-89 and 10-19.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
lol...
Did you skip math after the 3rd 1st grade, or are you just playing dumb to be argumentative?
They are for the same position – duh; but no where close to being confused for one another… like a 52 & 53 might in his example.
"It's more than a handful. It's a handsful."
I voted yes
But only because this pick means more good defensive players last longer and give the Saints a better chance at picking their preference later on…
Looking at the photo
I thought , for a moment, that Flo-jo was the pick.
That could`ve been me,a useless knome fishing
for turds in a birthing pool.
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