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jeffduncantp Jeff Duncan
And then pass. RT @RichGannon12: Loomis on Mark Ingram: "He's the #1 RB on our board & if he falls to us @ #24 we'd have that conversation."

Jeff Duncan is not a big fan. But Mickey's words give some hope for the rest of us. Those of us who don't necessarily have to have an LB at #24. Talkin' bout INGRAMANIA!!

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Can you really see him showing his draft plans to Jeff Duncan…. pleaze……

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by bondcrash on Apr 26, 2011 2:14 PM CDT reply actions  

Ok it was Rich Gannon… but this is what vox populi Rotoworld thinks of it…

Ingram is the No. 1 running back on the Saints’ draft board, though Loomis also admitted that “the front seven on defense and helping the pass rush” is the team’s biggest need area. Loomis might give the Patriots cause for pause with Ingram, though we’re skeptical that he’d pull the trigger on a back in the first round.

Bring the metal....

by bondcrash on Apr 26, 2011 2:18 PM CDT reply actions  

The Pats don't want a running back though.

BB is more stubborn than Payton with his backs. Plus their problem was their defense, not their offense. Although, the same could be said about the Saints.

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by Jon Banks on Apr 26, 2011 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

rotoworld.com:

The Patriots are expected to take a running back in the draft, putting the size of Law Firm’s 2011 role in doubt.

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by stujo4 on Apr 26, 2011 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't believe them.

Put me down.

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by Jon Banks on Apr 26, 2011 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

I believe them

Did I agree with Rotoworld? GAAAA!!!

Eh, it’s happened before. But I don’t know they’ll spend a first-rounder on Ingram. I expect them to trade one of them away for 2012 picks, and spend the other on the offensive line. So if Ingram falls past Miami, he’ll probably be there at 24.

It was good while it lasted.

by MtnExile on Apr 26, 2011 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

boom done, on the List.

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by stujo4 on Apr 26, 2011 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Pat's have 6 picks in the first 92

RB’s are avail, and BB could take Ingram “Just for Spite”

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by metryman on Apr 26, 2011 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

right

Who wasn’t skeptical that Mickey would take Robert Meachem at #27? Don’t all raise your hands at once.

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by stujo4 on Apr 26, 2011 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was not expecting the Meachem pick AT ALL in 2007

does that mean I should or should not raise my hand? I’m confused, Prof. Johnson

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by Hans Petersen on Apr 26, 2011 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Should not. Whatever the pick or trade up/down turns out to be, we should not be surprised. Mickey’s completely unpredictable.

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by stujo4 on Apr 26, 2011 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

got it

yeah, after Meach in 07 and P-Rob ’10, I am now fully prepared for absolutely ANYTHING to happen…

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by Hans Petersen on Apr 27, 2011 7:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Meach and P-Rob are the reasons I’ve decided to prepare for the worst case scenario. I’m starting to wonder if there’s a record for most consecutive draft picks in the first round that weren’t starters their first year (injuries not included).

"Winter is coming"

by jeff.l.b on Apr 27, 2011 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hey, Jeff

are you enjoying Game of Thrones so far?

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by Hans Petersen on Apr 27, 2011 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

jeffduncantp Jeff Duncan

#Saints GM Mickey Loomis conceded today what most people have long felt: The club’s biggest need is the def. front 7: http://bit.ly/fBDAzk
jeffduncantp Jeff Duncan
Have you watched the #Saints play? RT @LJSunTzu: so if everything else he said was smokescreen today, how do u know that wasn’t as well?

jeffduncantp Jeff Duncan

Loomis didn’t say DE, said “front 7.” That means DT, DE & LB. I expect #Saints’1st two picks to address those areas. @LJSunTzu

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by stujo4 on Apr 26, 2011 2:19 PM CDT reply actions  

Jeff Duncan is on the List.

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by stujo4 on Apr 26, 2011 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Duncan is a douche.

He doesn’t deserve the list.

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by Jon Banks on Apr 26, 2011 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hasn't he always been on the list?

I would have a whole chapter dedicated to him. I’m on the list for saying Pay-Loo WILL draft Ingram IF he’s still there at no. 24. Doesn’t count if they trade up, down, or out of the round. I stand by that.

"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!

by David "Satch" Kelly on Apr 26, 2011 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

I want Ingram, but I do not want to trade up for him. That would upset me.

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by Jon Banks on Apr 26, 2011 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agree as well

If you’re going to trade up, it needs to be for an elite pass-rusher.

That said, if they all go off the board (along with Costanzo) and Ingram’s there at 24, I say go with it.

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by Billy Gomila on Apr 26, 2011 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

FIFY…

If you’re going to trade up, it needs to be for an elite 4-3 outside linebacker or elite pass-rusher.

"It's more than a handful. It's a handsful."

by Dan Kelly on Apr 26, 2011 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

What LB has that much value?

Something else to consider re: Ingram and No. 24 — if there’s a big run on linemen, he might very well BE the BPA at No. 24.

Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook

by Billy Gomila on Apr 26, 2011 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Von Miller… IDK

But, we need one.

"It's more than a handful. It's a handsful."

by Dan Kelly on Apr 26, 2011 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree, but

What it would cost to trade up for Miller would be counter-productive. Dude’s almost certainly going in the top-five. If the Saints are gonna trade up it’ll be into the teens.

Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook

by Billy Gomila on Apr 26, 2011 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree, for the most part.

I don’t care for draft picks myself, so trade most of them to get a guy like that – maybe. the only problem with trading that high is the salary. I don’t care that we wouldn’t have any other picks to spend.

In a perfect world, we trade all our draft picks (or most of them) for proven FA’s – IMHO. But we can’t… and wouldn’t if we could.

"It's more than a handful. It's a handsful."

by Dan Kelly on Apr 27, 2011 8:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm with Satch

I’ll gladly take my place on the list…but that opinion really isn’t controversial enough. Half of WhoDat Nation thinks the same thing, I bet.

It was good while it lasted.

by MtnExile on Apr 26, 2011 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

INGRAMANIA!!!

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I make those meetings when I can, yeah

by stujo4 on Apr 26, 2011 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

HA!
But I’m just a blogger. What the f—- do I know?

"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!

by David "Satch" Kelly on Apr 26, 2011 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ha ha!

Rec’d!

Repeat? Under construction...

by FrenchFreak on Apr 26, 2011 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

At least not a Message Board Guy like the rest of us… LOL

Bring the metal....

by bondcrash on Apr 26, 2011 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

boom rec'd it

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by stujo4 on Apr 26, 2011 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

That is awesome.

The whole comment.

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by Jon Banks on Apr 26, 2011 11:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mickey was hoping you wouldn’t notice that.

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by stujo4 on Apr 26, 2011 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, I confess I have been told that I have an uncanny recognition of the obvious.

by Nabb1 on Apr 26, 2011 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Of course, it would help if I spelled Ingram’s name correctly.

by Nabb1 on Apr 26, 2011 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Based solely on your comment the Raiders are frantically looking for game tape of this Ingraham guy, who they’re already trying to trade into the first round for.

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by Jay Preece on Apr 26, 2011 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Since Jeff's so much fun...
jeffduncantp Jeff Duncan
Loomis on teams’ FAs: "We’ve had discussions and a few offers on players (before lockout) I don’t know if we’re close or not close. "

Anyone heard anything about who might those FA’s be?

jeffduncantp Jeff Duncan
Loomis on backup QB needs: “I don’t feel like we have a burning need for is. We like chase daniel. we like what we’ve seen so far.”

GAAAA!!!!!!

jeffduncantp Jeff Duncan
Loomis on how UFAs, RFAs affect draft prep: “We’re going to make an assumption that we’re going to get them re-signed.”

Assuming? And drafting accordingly? That’s serious B***S***…

Repeat? Under construction...

by FrenchFreak on Apr 26, 2011 5:48 PM CDT reply actions  

yes, they'd have the conversation...

and that conversation would go something like this:

“Wow Ingram is there! I didn’t expect that. Should we pick him?”

“No.”

end of conversation

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by SaintBevo on Apr 26, 2011 9:55 PM CDT reply actions  

Whether you’re right or not, the maniacs around here sure are entertaining in their insanity…

by FriarBob on Apr 26, 2011 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Look at how many defensive players the Saints have drafted in the first round in the last 8 years. You think they’re building defense? That they are planning another Dome Patrol? I think Mickey has told GDub to make some chicken salad out of chicken ish while Payton’s boys score some points by running to set up the pass.

Loomis on Mark Ingram: "He’s the #1 RB on our board
That might be a double fake. Maybe they like Leshoure instead. Or not. Don’t rule anything out.
Ingram possesses a great build and good top-end speed. Highly-competitive runner. Seldom goes down on first contact. Displays rare awareness, vision and patience. Waits for holes to develop, sets up his blockers, sees the cutback and explodes up field. Can make defenders miss in the hole and in space. Fast enough to get the corner. Contributes as a receiver and blocker.
That’s pretty tough to reject out of hand at #24. INGRAMANIA!!!

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by stujo4 on Apr 26, 2011 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is going to be weird to say.

Me and Stu are in 100% agreement. They are going to tell GW to make do with what he has or give him some tools in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. Payton likes his offense.

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by Jon Banks on Apr 26, 2011 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

maybe you're right stu and maybe I'm 100% wrong...

but I think Payloo is convinced that they don’t need to spend a high draft pick on a RB. Bush was a different story because, right or wrong, I think they saw him as possessing a unique set of skills. I don’t think the same can be said about Ingram. Wasn’t everybody convinced that we were going to pick beanie wells too? To me it is a similar situation. I’m sure they like Ingram, just not enough to pick him at 24.

I think they recognize that they need to improve the pass rush and will look to address that in some way with the first pick. I’m betting that they’d love to trade down and pick up a 2nd or 3rd rd. pick, but we’ll see.

"But tonight the Superbowl belongs to the City of New Orleans" - Roger Goodell 2/7/2010

by SaintBevo on Apr 27, 2011 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

wait a minute! I've got it!!!

We’ll draft Ingram and then play him at OLB, too!! If we do RBBC, then he won’t be too tired to play defense!!

Can you imagine his quickness and cutting skills allowing him to penetrate the backfield going the other way? He’ll have 35 sacks by Week 8!!

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by Hans Petersen on Apr 27, 2011 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

um, I forgot to put that comment in the sarcasm font

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by Hans Petersen on Apr 27, 2011 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Payloo is convinced that they don’t need to spend a high draft pick on a RB

That’s just what he WANTS you to think. Because he really does think that. Or not.

Wasn’t everybody convinced that we were going to pick beanie wells too?
That could very well have occurred, but Mickey called BS on the value of the proposed trade to make it happen as I recall. He’s all about value.
I’m sure they like Ingram, just not enough to pick him at 24.
Well that’s what they WANT you to think. Or not. I have no idea. None. I just think if they do draft him, I’m going to be pretty hard to live with around here. Ok, harder.
INGRAMANIA!!!

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I make those meetings when I can, yeah

by stujo4 on Apr 27, 2011 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I just think if they do draft him, I’m going to be pretty hard to live with around here. Ok, harder.

I’m officially OFF the INGRAMANIA!!! bangwagon.

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by Dave Cariello on Apr 28, 2011 1:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

wells

People were calling for us to select Wells with the 14th pick that used on Malcolm Jenkins. We considered trading back into the 1st round to pick wells, but we never considered him at 14 (thank Jeebus)

"But tonight the Superbowl belongs to the City of New Orleans" - Roger Goodell 2/7/2010

by SaintBevo on Apr 28, 2011 8:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

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