Accountability Index Update
by stujo4 on May 1, 2011 11:02 AM CDT
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Remarks |
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Apr 29 2011 |
Louisville lovers love Johnny Patrick |
I wanted the OK safety. Kinda liked the Q Carter kid. If Patrick sucks, I blame these two guys. |
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Apr 29 2011 |
Ingram pick cost too much with too much risk. Overrated, potential bust. |
Saints compared Ingram to Deuce McAllister in character and talent. |
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Apr 28 2011 |
Morstead and 2011 Saints will set NFL record for fewest punts and team record for 6 games without a punt |
Hans had too many draft night glasses of Purple Ingramania Drank |
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Mar 17 2011 |
NFL CBA will be signed before any 2011 games are lost |
No, too much money at stake, right? Right? |
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Mar 4 2011 |
Saints RB's: 1. PT |
The reality is that this position is up for grabs. Maybe Ingram pulls an Antonio Pittman (not bloody likely). Let's see how it plays out. |
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Mar 21 2011 |
The Saints will not address a position of immediate need (an RB, DE, OLB or OT )with their first round pick. |
That's some stinkin' thinkin'. |
Ah, no... jeff, I'm so sorry. The Saints addressed TWO immediate needs of DE and RB, and BOTH in the first round. Do not underestimate the PayLoo. |
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Jan 9 2011 |
Saints To-Do List: Don't rest on your laurels |
Just for the record, to hold PayLoo accountable |
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BM, cont'd |
Get a pass rush. |
Does Cameron Jordan count, even though pass rush is not his strong suit? |
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BM, cont'd |
Find an elite deep threat. |
Adrian Arrington?? |
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BM, cont'd |
Find more running backs |
INGRAMANIA!!! |
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BM, cont'd |
Overhaul your return and coverage teams. |
Uh... Johnny Patrick? |
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Jan 10 2011 |
NFL players and owners will reach an agreement by March and all will continue as normal provided they drop the 18-game schedule idea. |
Missed it. Satch regroups and predicts we'll miss no more than 2 preseason games. |
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Jan 10 2011 |
Jake Locker will not be a top 10 draft pick in 2011. |
I would've placed a modest wager on this prediction. The Titans took him at #8. Good thing I saved my money. |
Read that thread starting here. I think everyone is wrong at some point. |
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Jan 14 2011 |
Skeptical of Denver Post's statement that Kyle Orton is likely to be traded in the offseason |
Looks like he'll compete with Tebow for the starting job in camp, although Rotoworld.com is losing faith in Orton. Trade rumors continue (Arizona). |
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Jan 16 2011 |
To Do List: Sign Brees |
Nope |
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cont'd |
Reggie-pay cut/trade/cut |
Not yet but developing, maybe. |
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cont'd |
Cut Shockey-keep Graham/D Thomas |
Half done |
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cont'd |
Cut Kyle/Gay, keep Dresher/P-Rob |
Probable |
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cont'd |
Retain Bushrod, Harper, Moore, P Thomas |
PT done, we'll see about the rest |
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cont'd |
Shanle, Ayodele, Hargrove-Paycut or cut |
I'm thinking Shanle paycut, at least |
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cont'd |
Goodwin, Evans, Strief, Charleston, Prioleau, Torrence-release, resign at Saints' leisure |
Yeah yeah whatever |
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cont'd |
(Tennant replaces Goodwin, Casillas replaces Shanle) |
If the planets align, especially for Casillas |
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cont'd |
Draft a DE to help Will Smith |
Cameron Jordan |
boom done |
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cont'd |
Free agency niceties- young fullback, reserve interior OL, K/P returner |
Mickey is on it. |
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cont'd |
Educate and overhaul TUSK! |
Can he even walk yet? |
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Apr 28 2011 |
Whoever drafts Da'Quan Bowers will see him balloon up during the inevitable rehab |
Bone on bone and Pizza Hut delivers. |
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Mar 23 2011 |
Brooks Reed will be drafted in the late first to early/mid second round |
Good one, jeff. Selected by Houston with the 10th pick of the 2nd round. |
I can't stand the kid. Probably due to his photo. |
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Mar 23 2011 |
Saints select Brooks Reed with the #24 pick |
No, Walter. |
GAAAA!!! |
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Apr 12 2011 |
If Ingram is still there at no. 24, Sean Payton will take him. |
That did not happen, they took Cameron Jordan and I shed a tear. Or two. |
Then I shed a couple more when PayLoo closed the deal with Hoodie. INGRAMANIA!! at #28. |
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Jan 20 2011 |
Saints take DB or WR in the first round of the 2011 draft |
Fletcher Mackerel agrees with the WR part, he likes Jonathan Baldwin. |
No. The wisdom of PayLoo prevailed. |
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Apr 26 2011 |
Doesn't believe the Patriots will take a running back in the draft |
Hoodie took Vereen in the 2nd and Ridley in the 3rd. Consolation: LSU!! LSU!! |
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Jan 21 2011 |
OT Charles Brown is the starter by Sep 2011 |
We'll watch training camp very closely for this to develop. |
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Jan 27 2011 |
Saints evaluated these two players, among others, at Senior Bowl: |
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JV cont'd |
DraftSeason.com Jan |
Only mocks I could find who had Saints taking Jordan at #24. DraftSeason amended the pick later but the other two stuck with him. |
"One of the steals of the draft thus far." I may have to follow this guy Mark McGuire. |
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JV cont'd |
Mar 4 Delima |
These mockers thought the Saints would select him at #24? He went undrafted. WTF? |
Maybe they'll invite him to camp. Big 12!!! Big 12 !!! |
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2011 Mocks |
CBSsports.com-Reuter Mar 14 |
Martez Wilson LB |
Correctly sniffed out the Saints' interest. |
But not in the first round. Missed the clues to INGRAMANIA!! |
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2011 Mocks |
Da'Quan Bowers DE |
Hey guys, do you even know what bone on bone means? |
At #24, PayLoo take calculated risks, not wild ass bet the farm risks. |
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2011 Mocks |
Jake Locker QB |
This was stupid. |
Pat's on my Do Not Read List. |
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2011 Mocks |
Mark Ingram RB |
All four saw Ingram as a Saint. Sports Central even had them trading up to #15 to get him. |
INGRAMANIA!!! |
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April 18 2011 |
Scott Shanle will return to the Saints in 2011 |
Martez Wilson will play strong side LB. Looking good so far for Shanle. |
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April 17 2011 |
Mike Detillier published a stupid mock draft and I think he's completely wrong |
See my comment here |
Houma paper GAAA!! Here's a link that works. He hit 4 out of 32: Cam Newton @1, Patrick Peterson @5, Tyron Smith @9, Adrian Clayborn @20. |
I despised in particular his Brooks Reed pick. Ayers wasn't taken in round 1 either. |
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Apr 26 2011 |
"I expect #Saints'1st two picks to address those areas. (DT DE LB) |
Cameron Jordan adequately addresses DE. |
Jeff Duncan has apparently been inoculated against INGRAMANIA!! |
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Feb 25 2011 |
Reggie Bush to be released in the next week or week and a half |
This was refuted and now is a hot topic again. |
If you guys want to revise the date, let me know. |
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Nov 2 2010 |
The over thrown would be TD pass to Strief in week 8 of 2010 indicates Brees' QB career peaked in 2009 |
Are you gonna try to tell me that 2010 was better than 2009? It's a long slow decline but still a decline in progress. |
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May 14 2010 |
Condemned Ricky Williams draft day trade, applauded Tebow draft day trade |
Ricky won't be back with the Dolphins. Rotoworld.com thinks he'll sign with a contender. Tebow, meanwhile, might start in 2011. |
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May 17 2010 |
Believes Payton was addicted to Vicodin and Loomis aided cover-up |
Completely forgotten except by Frenchie. Payton's got a better source in Dallas, I guess. |
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Mar 22 2011 |
Reggie will not sign a new contract prior to mid-August 2011 |
Ok, but with who? |
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June 11 2010 |
CP thinks PT and Reggie both gone in 2011 |
Outrageous at first, then looked prophetic. PT has signed but does INGRAMANIA!!! make him available for trade? Reggie's in flux. |
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When Ingram has a 1000+ rookie season....
…you gonna come take your lumps like a man? ;-)
Who Dat? TWO DAT! Do dat AGAIN!!!
by GSO Saints Fan on May 1, 2011 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Jeff Duncan: “
Mickey Loomis, Sean Payton and Rick Reiprish obviously don’t need my advice … They’ve proven they know what they’re doing on draft day. And they’ll show it again this year by not taking a running back in the first round.”
I just want to put the boot in. Idiot blogger.
If I am good I could add years to my life / I would rather add some life to my years.
by Jay Preece on May 1, 2011 1:03 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, I should have clarified I meant first round. But I didn't, so pelt me with your tomatoes fine sirs and ladies.
Canal Street Chronicles-A place of great Saints news and information. Oh and the stuff I write!
Add this, please.
MtnExile, April 24th: I think our run game will be top 5.
With Ingram added to the backfield it’s certainly a possibility, but I don’t think we run the ball enough to finish top 5 in yardage.
If I am good I could add years to my life / I would rather add some life to my years.
We did in 2009.
Canal Street Chronicles-A place of great Saints news and information. Oh and the stuff I write!
As much as I like SP, I don’t trust his run/pass bias.
If I am good I could add years to my life / I would rather add some life to my years.
Have a little FAITH...
With Ingram, he’ll get back to 2009 ways.
"It's more than a handful. It's a handsful."
Well said
Eat, drink, and be merry, for tomorrow we die!
WHO DAT?!
TWO DAT!!
by LA_No1_SaintFan on May 1, 2011 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions
I still have hope that if the running game works better, Payton will use it more, and with Ingram I sure hope it works better!
Here’s what I see from our running game in 2011* (being cautiously optimistic)
Payton will still use the pass to set up the run as a default setting – he is who he is.
But maybe, just maybe, he’ll feel more confident to also try to first ram the ball down teams’ throats when tendencies predict that it should be effective AND to also shift mid-game to the run if the pass is NOT WORKING.
Seems to me, this is what we did in 2009, and to great success.
Am I crazy?
Win Now...
WINGRAMANIA
by Hans Petersen on May 1, 2011 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions
btw
great update – I always enjoy reading it
Dr. Melfi would be proud of you
Win Now...
WINGRAMANIA
by Hans Petersen on May 1, 2011 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions
lol @ default setting
also, i’m liking what you’re thinking
Let's have a 2011 season. Get a deal done
by skinnykinney on May 4, 2011 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions
thanks - and good signature line...
Win Now...
WINGRAMANIA
by Hans Petersen on May 4, 2011 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Hell, that ain't all
I also said “19-0.” I was serious. (I was also drunk, I must confess.)
It was good while it lasted.
Drunk posting? I’m very sorry, but if I let everyone off the hook who claimed he was drunk at the time we’d have nothing but chaos around here. Besides, when I read some of these declarations I just assume you guys are drunk anyway.
"We want football!" "Guys...... guys....."
That wasn't an excuse
That was boasting. You’re not from New Orleans, are you?
It was good while it lasted.
darn... I'm not on the list anymore.
I need to step up my game.
"It's more than a handful. It's a handsful."
Relax, Dan. The Program is working, you’ll soon see everything my way. Here, listen to this….
"We want football!" "Guys...... guys....."
....
BM, cont’d
Overhaul your return and coverage teams.
Uh… Johnny Patrick?
Add Bussey to that too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qais_eGMnWk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39GH-nzrY_I&feature=relatde
that was supposed...
to qoute your Johnny Patrick helping on STs, which I think Bussey can do
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qais_eGMnWk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39GH-nzrY_I&feature=relatde
HEY!
I clearly stated in another thread:
“The Falcons will begin a steep decline based on this draft.”
…and you didn’t “list” me. :-P I’m offended….
Who Dat? TWO DAT! Do dat AGAIN!!!
I saw that and thought “Oh he’s just drunk.” But I do think you’re wrong. LISTED!
"We want football!" "Guys...... guys....."
Mowed the grass, one beer...
…definitely not drunk, not even buzzed. Maybe a bit tired, hadda brush out the mutts, both of ‘em losing their winter coats at the same time, maybe I’m delusional from the 2 hrs of brushing after the yardwork…
…naw, them Foulclowns are only gonna avoid 4th place in the NFC South because the Pampers will be truly awful again. Mark me down!
Who Dat? TWO DAT! Do dat AGAIN!!!
by GSO Saints Fan on May 1, 2011 11:16 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I hope you’re right. And you’re definitely at least part right in this much, Julio was a HUGE risk. If it pans out, he’ll help their offense, but they need him to completely knock his “dropsies” problem FAST… AND they also need at least one (preferably both) of either improvement at the QB spot or improvement in the playcalling for him to really be worth the cost.
The biggest reason that I think you have a shot to be right, however, is because they didn’t improve their defense or OL. That will hurt them, unless they manage to bring in an absolute HAUL in free agency.
The OL and defensive issues are why I'm saying this....
…Falcons will end up being #3 in the NFC South next season, and only because the Panthers did NOTHING to improve in a real sense.
Who Dat? TWO DAT! Do dat AGAIN!!!
by GSO Saints Fan on May 2, 2011 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions
I'll buy that for a dollar
Eat, drink, and be merry, for tomorrow we die!
WHO DAT?!
TWO DAT!!
by LA_No1_SaintFan on May 5, 2011 1:35 AM CDT up reply actions
Put me down for this
Drew Brees is in the top 5 with passing yardage next season.
by were gonna need a bigger boat on May 1, 2011 5:39 PM CDT reply actions
it has to be something Stu disagrees with. I think he wouldn’t have a problem with that one. :-)
"It's more than a handful. It's a handsful."
well, it depends on where top 5 yardage would put Brees on the long, slow decline arc of Stu's (which I am also a believer in)
he might have to complete a few to Strief to hit that mark
Win Now...
WINGRAMANIA
by Hans Petersen on May 1, 2011 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh.
In that case, I would say that it will be Martez Wilson, not Mark Ingram, that makes the biggest impact of all rookies this season.
You know, in Japan a round of golf cost $12,000. You play from rooftop to rooftop and the balls are made of rice somehow. then when you're done you've gotta go home and sleep in a tube.
-Dale Gribble
by were gonna need a bigger boat on May 1, 2011 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions
But how do you evaluate such a thing?
Suppose they’re both on the All-Rookie team. Who had the “biggest impact”? Can you quantify “impact”? What’s the proper ratio between yards and tackles?
It was good while it lasted.
seems like we need football outsiders to save the day
with a comparative algorithm
Win Now...
WINGRAMANIA
by Hans Petersen on May 2, 2011 7:54 AM CDT up reply actions
that's what I'M TALKIN 'BOUT
Win Now...
WINGRAMANIA
by Hans Petersen on May 3, 2011 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions
should be an easy analysis
when Ingram whens rookie of the year.
"Good, and good riddance. But it’s hard to see how it changes anything important."-Krugman
But what about
When Cam Jordan wins Defensive Rookie of the year?
Mark Ingram-OROY
Cam Jordan-DROY
New Orleans Saints-2012 Super Bowl Champs
Is that a question or a prediction?
"Good, and good riddance. But it’s hard to see how it changes anything important."-Krugman
A joke prediction.
Put me on the List if you want, but I know it probably won’t happen. Wilson probably has the best chance of our drafted rookies to win it, and even then it’s highly unlikely.
Mark Ingram-OROY
Cam Jordan-DROY
New Orleans Saints-2012 Super Bowl Champs
You think this is funny? This is funny to you?
Wilson probably has the best chance of our drafted rookies to win it
You’re on the LIST!
USA!!! USA!!!
I’ll go along with that, under the notion that he’ll be the only rookie starting from Day 1.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
Should be a VERY easy analysis
when 5 years go by and Ingram still hasn’t had a 1000 yard season. I noticed that you changed you signature by the way.
You know, in Japan a round of golf cost $12,000. You play from rooftop to rooftop and the balls are made of rice somehow. then when you're done you've gotta go home and sleep in a tube.
-Dale Gribble
by were gonna need a bigger boat on May 2, 2011 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, we’ve got a dead muslim to deal with.
I don’t know if you’ve noticed, but I don’t usually mock and jeer (to excess) the incorrect predictions on the List. Keep it up, I’ll make an exception.
USA!!! USA!!!
If I'm wrong
And Ingram becomes a sucsessful player, I will build you a shrine. That’s how confident I am it won’t happen
You know, in Japan a round of golf cost $12,000. You play from rooftop to rooftop and the balls are made of rice somehow. then when you're done you've gotta go home and sleep in a tube.
-Dale Gribble
by were gonna need a bigger boat on May 3, 2011 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions
I saw this comment
and will hold you accountable. I dont need an index for this one.
"My rule of life prescribed as an absolutely sacred rite smoking cigars and also the drinking of alcohol before, after and if need be during all meals and in the intervals between them."-Winston Churchill
I already got a shrine.
Go out yonder, peace in the valley
Come downtown, there's a rumble in the alley
Ego is not a shrine.
"My rule of life prescribed as an absolutely sacred rite smoking cigars and also the drinking of alcohol before, after and if need be during all meals and in the intervals between them."-Winston Churchill
by cscmember on May 3, 2011 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Three NFC South teams with double digit win totals in 2011.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
So Panters win the division? Oh you’re on the List.
"Good, and good riddance. But it’s hard to see how it changes anything important."-Krugman
Carolina should be in a position to draft Andrew Luck next year.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
Hello Mr Millen
Decided that WR’s weren’t the way to success, so keep drafting first round QB’s?
A quote is a quote, of note, of note, unless of course the quote is from...wait, that's been done.
by theprogrammerman on May 2, 2011 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions
Ingram won't have more than 3 games with 13+ carries
PT gets too many, Tusk will probably get some, and Reggie will get a few and with the way that we pass there’s not enough to go around. Also, Payton never seemed to go with the hot hand last year like he did in 2009.
Let's have a 2011 season. Get a deal done
I see three giant flaws in your logic. PT, Tusk and Reggie will all be lost for multiple games at some point. This isn’t a prediction. These are the swallows of San Juan Capistrano. You can pretty much set your watch by it. Who’s stealing carries then? Certainly not someone as “washed up” as Julius Jones. That sort of time share is reserved for UDFAs playing out their league minimum rookie contracts. Sure, Devery will still get his obligatory one reverse attempt per game, but besides that, it’s going to be INGRAMANIA in excess of 20 times on those Sundays. If those are the three 13+ games you were referring to, I’ll see your bid and raise you five. Eight games with 13+ carries, 50%+ more rushing yards than his nearest teammate. BOOM!
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
I would nominate for the list
But it’s hard to nominate anything/anybody when I don’t have the nads to commit to anything even remotely list worthy LOL
Eat, drink, and be merry, for tomorrow we die!
WHO DAT?!
TWO DAT!!
by LA_No1_SaintFan on May 5, 2011 1:39 AM CDT up reply actions
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