Pick one: Colston or Meachem?
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Contract year for Meachem too. RT @evansilva: 2011 is contract year for Colston. Time for Saints to start prepping Meachem for top WR role.
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Will be tough for Saints to keep both Meachem/Colston in '12. Only 9 months apart in age. Colston more important.
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@evansilva Yeah, depends on how Colston responds to another surgery. think brees goes to bat for him. Meachem has never been as valuable.
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@bAnthonYsr Ah. They both will be due big contracts. May be tough to afford both.
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I pick both
Meach won’t merit as big a contract as they think…
but if either plays poorly this season*, then they might not be back in 2012*
- neither of these $%#& seasons may actually happen, grrrrrrr!
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Meachem in a heartbeat. I’d like to keep both, but there’s no doubt in my mind that they’re headed in opposite directions.
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I'm inclined to agree
Still have a bad taste in my mouth from #12 hearing footsteps last year.
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Agreed. That and given his production…i don’t see how he would ever garner a big contract. All the more pressing of a reason to actual get some good targets for Drew to throw the ball to.
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by Comedic.Sans on May 14, 2011 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions
they’re headed in opposite directions
how about this showing their recieving yards over their careers, even at his worst Colston still had better numbers then Meachem ever had. Also he’s been somewhat consistent over his career, getting above 1000 yards and averaging 8 TDs, which Meachem only exceeded Colston’s average once in his career, with 9 TD’s
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Yes, however, you can’t argue that Meachem has shown improvement every year he’s been in the league. Colston, however, we’ve seen what he can do and hasn’t improved upon that…merely remained steady. Combine that with a second microfracture surgery on his other knee…and it’s not hard to imagine the soon to be steady decline of Colston from a production standpoint.
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improvement?
going from 722 and 9 TD’s to 638 and 5 TD’s in the same amount of games, and almost the same amount of receptions does not scream improvement to me
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also..
…with his 289 yards in 2008, there wasn’t really anywhere to go from there but up. And don’t get me wrong, I like Meachem and think he is on the rise, but give me Colston and is 1000 yards and 8 TDs, despite still having 2-3 other good WRs plus Tight ends, and 2 RBs that we love to through screens to, any day
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and the one year Colston was off was when he missed 5 games, yet still racked up 760 yards, and if he could have continued that average throughout the year would have had 1105 yards, giving him his second highest total in his career, which would have made his consistency look even better. Also that year Brees discovered another gem in Lance Moore who started taking catches away from Colston
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but they are 2 different recievers, Colston makes his money in the red zone and first downs, where as Meachem is more of a down-field threat with his speed. Meachem is naturally going to get more yards per target than Colston.
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and it’s not like we are going to go for the long ball half of the game, yeah we’ll take our shots, but short passes and marching down the field with the run (well that’s how it should be at least) then taking those couple shots down the field after the defense is lulled into our robotic trance
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I’m not arguing that Colston doesn’t have value as a possession receiver. I’m just saying that if forced to choose between the two, I’d rather the downfield production. There are hundreds of “great hands” guys out there that are capable of serving in that capacity, if targeted as often as Colston is. Take Mike Hass for example. He only dropped one pass in three seasons at Oregon State and set numerous PAC 10 and NCAA records. He wasn’t able to cut it at the NFL level though, because of his lack of separation speed. That’s obviously not the case with Colston, but that extreme (hands, no quicks) is far more common than its inverse (quicks, no hands).
and it’s not like we are going to go for the long ball half of the game, yeah we’ll take our shots, but short passes and marching down the field with the run (well that’s how it should be at least)
I agree with you from a TOP standpoint. Personnel wise, assuming everyone re-signs this year, we have Lance Moore, Adrian Arrington, Jimmy Graham, David Thomas, pass catching RBs out the wazoo … but who do we have that can stretch the field? Henderson, who has always been unrelaible as a receiver and appears to be slowing down due to age … and Meachem. It would be different if the rest of our offense wasn’t geared to the short to intermediate game, or if we had a true game breaker at the position. As is, Meachem is the closest we have to that, so that’s who I’d opt to hang on to, if a gun was pointed at my giant head.
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we have Lance Moore, Adrian Arrington, Jimmy Graham, David Thomas, pass catching RBs out the wazoo
if we have all of those guys, why aren’t they going over 1k yard seasons year after year? and other than Graham no one else is over 6’4" and its great to have a guy that can snatch the ball out of the air right over lil old Brent Grimes without even having to jump.
and why can’t we have them both? Niether should be asking for number 1 money anyway…and both seem pretty mild-mannered so I don’t see them putting up much of a fight. Just resign both for long term contracts and we got our 2 different aspects of the WR position locked up.
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if we have all of those guys, why aren’t they going over 1k yard seasons year after year?
Because they don’t get the playing time and/or targets Colston gets as a starter. Same reason Mike Wallace didn’t have the yards Hines Ward and Santonio Holmes had in Pittsburgh prior to last season.
and why can’t we have them both?
Because in the hypothetical scenario of A versus B — which is what this thread posed — A+B is understood not to be an option.
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and what was mike hass? like a 6th or 7th rounder? can't expect too much from those guys...
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I’d rather the downfield production.
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I think that shows why Colston should be kept over Meachem pretty well. Meachem has improved I’ll give him that but he’s had troubles staying on the field with the playbook(shouldn’t be a problem anymore though) and being a consistent player. I’d rather take the guy that came into the league getting 1k+ yards than the one who might get 1k+ yards in his 5th(more like 4 though) year. Any receiver can stretch the field and become a threat down the field. Colston seemed to get more throws downfield than most of the other players and made some plays. Having a quick strike and explosive offense is great but so is being able to consistently move the ball down the field and run off some clock while getting drive sustaining first downs on 3rd and 6. Colston can do both those things while Meachem isn’t quite there yet imo. Meachem runs the deep routes well but I don’t trust his short/intermediate routes that much. Colston can do both and put up yards/touchdowns consistently. In his 5 year career he has more than 1k in 4 and in the one he didn’t get 1k he missed 5 games and got around 750. Colston is a redzone threat with great hands and I wouldn’t put Meachem in that category. Colston is like Calvin Johnson except not as quick imo.
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Let's have a 2011 season. Get a deal done
by skinnykinney on May 14, 2011 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Colston is clearly the less consistent of the two. His production has dropped twice in the four season span the two have co-existed. Meachem’s has dropped once. Colston’s higher production is a product of his playing time. Unless the two are getting equal opportunities to contribute, i.e. targets, consistency cannot be drawn from cumulative statistics.
I’d rather take the guy that came into the league getting 1k+ yards than the one who might get 1k+ yards in his 5th(more like 4 though) year.
Tell you what … trade Colston away for a backup MLB and a 4th round pick, hand the starting job to Meachem by default, then tell me if he doesn’t put up 1K+ out of the gate.
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I agree Pizza,
they do not get the same amount of playing time. If Meachem would start he may have maybe double the yards Colston gets. I want both to stay, but imo they are two different types of receivers. Colston being more of a tight end type who is not quick and doesn’t get many yards after the catch and Meachem making yards after the catch because of his quicker moves and speed. As far as Devery, I love him, but I think he may have to start tightening up a bit to remain here.
Meachem would start he may have maybe double the yards Colston gets
so…the number 1,848 means nothing? thats the most receiving yards in a season in the history of the NFL, and you think if Robert Meachem would get more playing time he would smash that record? If Meachem were to get “double” the receiving yards, that would have put him at 2046 (1023 × 2). might wanna reconsider that
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Any receiver can stretch the field and become a threat down the field.
Yeah? Someone needs to remind Ricky Proehl of that.
Colston is like Calvin Johnson except not as quick imo.
Colston reminds me of Jacoby Jones except not targeted as seldom imo.
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As someone who watched Jacoby Jones ~16 games a season, Colston >>>>>Jacoby.
Jacoby has poor hands, catches these insane grabs, and drops the easy ones. Jacoby also has insane speed, and is hard to understand. Colston is the opposite of that guy. I’ve always thought of Colston as a faster possession receiver. Which is either a #1 or slot guy.
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Jacoby has poor hands, catches these insane grabs, and drops the easy ones. Jacoby also has insane speed, and is hard to understand.
Jones is more like Santonio Holmes. Has patches of dropsies, disappears for entire quarters, and then gets some insane reception that defies all logic.
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by Comedic.Sans on May 14, 2011 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Colston has more receptions in a single season
than Jones has for his CAREER. I’m not seeing the comparisons…
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on May 14, 2011 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions
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