Saints Draft Picks 2011: How Good Will Martez Wilson Be?
I honestly can't even remember the last time the Saints groomed a young linebacker into a promising player. Winfred Tubbs? Mark Fields? Recent history has been brutal when it comes to young Saints linebackers. They've just never seemed to pan out, whether it was injuries or just plain suckage.
Last year the starters were Scott Shanle, Danny Clark and Jonathan Vilma - all seasoned veterans drafted by other teams that the Saints acquired through free agency or trades. Before Clark was Scott Fujita, another player who was solid but was landed through free agency. Maybe the Saints don't believe in starting young guys at linebacker? Maybe that position needs experience?
Still, I find it alarming that continued attempts to groom young players at that position have been unsuccessful. Consider the Haslett/Payton era:
2001: Jim Haslett drafted Sedrick Hodge. He was supposed to be a physical freak specimen with amazing size and speed. Despite his 3rd round draft status, he never lived up to the hype. He started a couple of seasons, but never had the football IQ to recognize plays or make an impact. Then he failed a drug test and he was out of the league at 27 after 5 unimpressive seasons.2002: Haslett takes James Allen in the 3rd round again. Like Hodge, Allen was big and fast. He had some opportunities to start but could never fully put it together. He showed more promise than Hodge but injuries limited him. He only last 5 seasons with the Saints as well before his career was toast.
2003: Hey, Jim Haslett, let's draft another linebacker in the 3rd round! The last two worked out so well. Cie Grant was the next victim, and his bones were made of chalk. He was injured after each practice he had with the Saints, years apart. He lasted a whopping 4 years in the NFL.
2004: Haslett took Courtney Watson in the 2nd round and Colby Bockwoldt in the 7th round. Bockwoldt exceeded expectations and started a little bit, but never really had the skills to cut it. He is now in the UFL and lasted 4 years in the NFL. And Watson, who looked so promising on draft day, was a complete failure. He lacked maturity and professionalism, failing physicals for being out of shape. He started for a while too, but had some injuries and never committed himself to becoming an impact player. He lasted a pathetic 2 years in the league.
2005: In Haslett's last draft class, he couldn't help himself. He just had to take Alfred Fincher in the 3rd round. It's amazing that a defensive mastermind (I use the term lightly) would be so inept at trying to recognize potential at linebacker. Fincher fit the same description as "big and fast" and obviously Haslett was a sucker for that, with actual brain cells of any sort not really being a requirement. Anyway, Fincher battled injuries too and he lasted just 4 seasons in the NFL, totaling 26 tackles during that span.
2006: Ok we get, Haslett was awful at selecting linebackers. Maybe Sean Payton is better? No linebacker was drafted this season but he did select Rob Ninkovich, originally a defensive end, who went on to become a pretty good player for the Patriots in their 3-4 scheme as an outside linebacker. He's still a starter for them today.
2007: Marvin Mitchell was the lone linebacker taken in the 7th round. He's been a decent role player for the team, but I don't see him unseating Jonathan Vilma any time soon. If and when Vilma leaves, I doubt Mitchell is being handed his job. It remains to be seen how his career will play out but I doubt he'll be a starter. Still, Mitchell has proven better than almost any Haslett drafted linebacker.
2008: No linebackers taken
2009: Stanley Arnoux was picked in the 4th round, and he's spent more time on the injured reserve than bin Laden spent in bunkers (too soon?). They still have high hopes for this guy, but I'm skeptical. Arnoux is probably one minor injury away from his career being done for good.
2010: No linebackers taken
And then there's Martez Wilson. Will he change the trend of all these young linebackers the Saints have drafted in the last decade that have been royal hot garbage? God I hope so. I am so sick of New Orleans not being able to groom a young promising linebacker that can make a big difference in the trenches. It's not like it was better before Haslett, either. We literally haven't seen that in over 15 years. The last linebacker the Saints drafted that I would consider "decent" would be Mark Fields back in 1995!
Nothing against the Fujitas and Shanles of the world - love those guys - but the Saints are a far cry away from the days of the Dome Patrol. I should also mention Jo-Lonn Dunbar and Jonathan Casillas, too, who are both promising linebackers and works in progress. Neither were drafted but signed as undrafted rookies with the Saints and so far, I'd say both have panned out better than the Cie Grants of the world. Granted, that's not saying much.
Will Martez Wilson finally break this awful trend? Do you think Martez Wilson will be a valuable and durable starter for the Saints someday?
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Wilson has advantages the others didn’t have. He’s coming onto a strong team with strong leaders and a solid work ethic, and he’ll be learning under Gregg Williams instead of Rick Venturi or Gary Gibbs. That’s no guarantee he’ll work out, of course; and he’d better have functional brain cells, or under Williams he’ll never step onto the field.
It was good while it lasted.
Agreed.
He’s walking into a great coaching and team situation. But that track record over the years has to give you pause…
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by Hans Petersen on May 4, 2011 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions
I believe health is the only thing that can hold him back so I'm hoping for few injuries!
What in the HELL just happened!?
Wilson has advantages the others didn’t have. He’s coming onto a strong team with strong leaders and a solid work ethic
… and no incumbent starters on the roster.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
linebackers
all practice together. Vilma’s position is slightly different, but he’ll still be a positive influence in Wilson’s ear on a consistent basis that can offer advice
I wasn’t questioning the statement. I was expanding upon it. No incumbent starters at OLB is an advantage the others didn’t have.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
oh
you’re suggesting he’s got a better shot at starting? That’s true for now, until a CBA is worked out and free agency comes back. There could be incumbent starters real soon – or not. Hard to say. But yeah as things stand that’s definitely an advantage for him. Still, I know you hate Shanle but I’d like Wilson to have that competition. If he becomes the starter anyway he’ll be better off for it with a veteran that knows the ropes pushing him.
Accountabililty index please...
I believe Wilson will be the best overall performer of our draft class. He’s gonna do things nobody saw coming and make plays all over the field.
Love the Wilson pick but I was also a huge James Allen guy because I watch a lot of college football. It’s frightening to think the Saints haven’t hit on a LB since Mark Fields, it only took us 10 years to find Bin Laden.
I still think the Saints will hedeg their bets at LB with free agent pickup
Oh I was all about Courtney Watson
I remember thinking he was going to be a savior at MLB. James Allen would have been a good player if he had stayed healthy. Sedrick Hodge was the Aaron Brooks equivalent for defensive players. I remember Hodge once had a shot on 4th and goal of stopping Michael Vick on a sweep and he took the absolute worst possible angle and thanks to his speed STILL had a shot at stopping Vick, only for Vick to put a simple juke move that made Hodge basically collapse to the ground. Then he snorted the 20 yard line to get high.
Sedrick Hodge was the Aaron Brooks equivalent for defensive players.
The second best LB we ever had?
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
by coldpizza on May 4, 2011 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Thats funny!
And sad part is I cant believe Aaron Brooks is even in the conversation for second best qb but he is. Its like I want to cry and laugh at the same time!
What in the HELL just happened!?
All-Pro
his rookie season! BOOM! REC’D!
ok, maybe I got carried away. I think he will earn a starting spot by the middle of the season. I wonder if he and Galette are used a rush lbs in the 34 packages. I don’t know who else could fill that role as of now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qais_eGMnWk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39GH-nzrY_I&feature=relatde
Love the idea of Wilson/Galette as OLB's in a 3-4 scheme
but let’s face it, coverage better be good because if they’re on the field in those positions there’s absolutely no secret we are blitzing

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