Canal Street Chronicles Roster Revamp III - The Draft (cont'd)

The prior thread fell from grace. I guess there must be a 14 day limit on featured posts. Please rec this new one back up and refrain from using the other going forth. Feel free to use the links provided, if you’d like to read over any participant suggestions or player discussions we’ve had up to this point.

Just noticed I was on the clock. Suggestions welcome. Might take matty just for cp…

I don’t think you can go wrong with Mendenhall or Blount as a power back.
There’s virtually nothing of value left in Indianapolis outside of their TEs and DEs.
FS still needs depth. Earl Thomas, Michael Griffin or Michael Huff would be sufficient.
Mankins looks like the top OG left. Tampa also has a couple of decent ones and Justin Blalock is ok, too.
Cincinnati has two LB prospects and two CBs. Gresham is a promising young TE.
Jerod Mayo and Brian Orakpo both need to be strongly considered.
Bobbie Williams is an excellent guard, imo. He’s ancient, but we’re fairly young there otherwise.
Michael Roos or Donald Penn are two fine OTs still available. Not a pressing need, though.
Vince Wilfork or Casey Hampton would give us our true NT, as previously mentioned.
Finnigan and Asomugha are two top flight CBs still out there. DeAngelo Hall is also. I also like Brent Grimes a lot.
Bironas seems like the best bet at kicker, though there are still a few options there.
Ryan Clark or just about any Pittsburgh LB (Harrison, Woodley, Timmons or Farrior) works.

I was between Mendenhall and Wilfork. I’m going with big sexy Vince Wilfork, NT, NE Patriots.

I know he was having problems with the previous thread. Hopefully he’ll be back around to make his pick, now that we have a new one going.

For the record, I don’t see anything on Thomas having played SS at the pro level as of yet, so I left that alternate designation off the depth chart.

In terms of running backs, I think we’re fine for hard-nosed, between-the-tackles runners. I’d be happier with someone like Darren McFadden who has that outside, explosive capabilities, but can still run inside. That’s what our offense is missing.

8 players left.

Positions that need to meet minimum requirements: (5) OG, OLB, ILB, CB and K.

I would argue that the number of minimum need is at least 6 with the addition of a 3rd TE.

I think I’d be happy with any other two additions.

So, with the 6 positions in mind, I think two stand above everyone else:
 
CB Nnamdi Asomugha, Oakland Raiders
K Rob Bironis, Tennessee Titans

With what is already on the roster, no other player from those teams could fill a spot needing to meet requirement as well.

Atlanta Falcons: OG Justin Blalock
Cincinnati Bengals: MLB Dhani Jones
Indianapolis Colts: DE Dwight Freeney
Oakland Raiders: CB Nnamdi Asomugha
Pittsburgh Steelers: OLB James Harrison
Tampa Bay Buccaneers: RB LeGarette Blount
Tennessee Titans: K Rob Bironas
Washington Redskins: TE Chris Cooley

Wash-Orakpo OLB
Tenn-Bironas K
Cinn-Maualuga ILB
NE-Wilfork NT
TB-Blount RB,Freeman QB
Pitt-Pouncey C
Oak-Asomugh CB
Atl-Clabo OT,Grimes CB
Indy-Clark,TE

Didnt take me long. I was going to visit BTSC and pose the question who I should take and low and behold the first two stories I see http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/. My pick is………………………..Hey I wont make it that easy for ya. Atleast read the first two articles then tell me Im wrong.

Tampa Bay RB LeGarette Blount

The pressure….PRESSURE

Next pick in the CSC roster revamp is James Harrison.

Now the next pick is LeGarette Blount, RB, Tampa Bay. Best physical runner left on the board. Over 1000 yards as a UDFA Rookie? Yes please.

this pick seems like a pretty good one to me…it’s going to round out our ILB corps and give us great depth at the center of our defense.

Curtis Lofton-Atlanta Falcons(YUCK!!!!)

We’re rolling now

just setting the mood for Jon…

Assuming Asomugha and Bironas are the Raiders/titans picks:

Cincinnati – Gresham, Williams, Rivers or Maualuga (Maualuga makes more sense), Dunlap. Andy Dalton?

Washington – Cooley, Orakpo or Fletcher (Fletcher makes more sense, despite his age).

Indianapolis – Clark or Tamme, Ijalana, Brackett, Freeney or Mathis.

I agree. For my money,

Oakland= Nnamdi Asomugha
Tennessee= Rob Bironis
Cincinatti= Rey Maualuga
Washington= Brian Orakpo
Indianapolis= Jacob Tamme or Dallas Clark

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The best corner in the league- bar none. (Revis is the younger Asomugha.)

The way this is going we should be done today.

…and my pick is Dallas Clark!

If Indy winds up being the crux on that, I think I’d rather Mathis or Freeney than Clark or Tamme. The only reason I say that is because we have Dumervil coming off of a season ending injury, Will Smith suspended four games + inconsistent, and Cam Jordan, who has yet to play a down. Of course, if we grab a DE from another team, then I have no problem taking an Indy TE.

As it turns out, we have NOT addressed DE. As such, Clark was a luxury pick, leaving us with very little wiggle room the rest of the way. With three picks left still need a guard and kicker. DE is still the (slight) concern it was prior. We should also be carrying a fourth interior LB, so we can have proper depth when playing the 3-4.

Rob Bironas should be our kicker. I think we’re mostly in agreement on that. The only other options are Graham Gano and Mike Nugent and Clint Stitser. That rules out Will Witherspoon in the middle, who can also play outside. The Titans have no exceptional interior OL talent of which to speak. Their best pure DE is Jason Babin, coming off his first trip to the Pro Bowl. They also have a couple of potential future superstars in ’tweener OLB/DE Akeem Ayers and true DE Dan Morgan, both early round picks in the last two years.

The Redskins’ most notable guard is Mike Williams, who has failed to make a name for himself, in spite of being taken 4th overall by the Bills in ‘02. Washington does offer a couple of LB options, however. London Fletcher is an exceptional MLB and team leader. He’s 36 years old, though. We could also conceivably go Brian Orakpo here, which I suppose would give us emergency DE coverage in the 4-3, even though Orakpo has never played DE in the NFL. Likewise, Martez Wilson could play inside in a pinch, being that his ideal position has yet to be established. Jarvis Jenkins, this year’s 2nd round pick out of Clemson, is their only true DE of note.

Like the Redskins, the Bengals offer a couple of decent LB options, Keith Rivers outside and Rey Maualuga inside. Like Witherspoon, he can also play outside. Their best guard is Bobbie Williams, who is arguably a top 10 talent in the league that position. He’s 34 years old, but we’re fairly young across the OL otherwise, so maybe his veteran leadership would serve its purpose there. Their best pure DE is Carlos Dunlap, who recorded 9 sacks in limited action last season. They also offer two unspectacular ’tweener OLB/DE prospects in Michael Johnson and unproven rookie Dontay Moch.

Of course, both DE and LB are lagniappe. We could conceivably ignore both and just go with the BPA from one of these teams. Considering the other positions we could possibly draft, I don’t see a whole lot of options out there.

Gibril Wilson as a third SS would be an improvement over Roman Harper, imo. Jake Locker or Andy Dalton might make for an interesting development QB prospect. Albert Haynesworth is a malcontent in Washington, but there’s no denying his raw talent, when motivated. He could flourish alongside someone of Mario Williams’s caliber in the 4-3. He could also push Ngata outside in certain situations, thereby fortifying the DE position without giving up a lot of ground inside. Speaking of malcontents, Vince Young is still available as a Titan, giving us mobility at the QB position and maybe someone to work in on gadget plays. Lastly, either Michael Griffin or Chris Hope would both fortify the safety position beyond what is required by rule.

I see that I pick as soon as the next one is in. Here’s my plan:

If Jimbo03 does not take Rob Bironis from Tennessee, I will.

If Jimbo03 does take Rob Bironis, I’ll take either Rey Maualuga or Keith Rivers. I’ll give you guys a chance to debate on which of the two would be the best option.

Taking Rob Bironas

Do the right thing, chisel chest.

Btw, I think Ponysaints should be a gentleman and pass his pick to Kat. Whatever happened to the chivalry in this group? Heh.

are you sure you know how I’m using it?

I actually did look ahead, a few times. That was exactly why I would have preferred to pick Pouncey off of Pittsburgh. He would have given us depth at all 3 interior positions, while allowing us to take any of Cincanatti’s LB’s. Pouncey and Rey/Keith is a much better combination on our team than Harrison and whatever Guard you can grab from Cincinatti or Washington.

That said, what are your thoughts on Nate Livings? He’s a starter, only been in the league 4 years. I’d much rather take Leon Hall or Jonathen Joseph than any guard left.

If you look at the Saints official roster, they currently have 4 guards, but I’ve never heard of the two back-ups and doubt both make the final 53 (Roger Allen and Brian De La Puente). If you look at depth charts around the league, many teams only carry 3 guards.

If you believe Bobby Williams is the best guard available, and we must pick a guard, I’ll leave Cincinatti’s roster to someone else.

The Saints have carried 5 safeties in most of the past years. That position has been critical on special teams as well as in our nickle and dime defenses. I would like to debate between SS Laron Landry and FS OJ Otagwe. Both are perfectly suited for each position. OJ was a little banged up but perennially is a tackling machine and turnover forcer when it comes to fumbles and int’s. Your thoughts?

I’ll wait to confer with ColdPizza, then we’ll come to a decision on who to grab off of Washington’s roster. The last pick can have Cincinatti.

Ok. Tired of waiting. I pick OJ Atogwe from the Washington Redskins.

Just to reiterate, we still need a GUARD and a BENGAL. That limits your picks to:

Clint Boling
Otis Hudson
Nate Livings
Evan Mathis
Jason Shirley
>>>>>>> BOBBIE WILLIAMS <<<<<<<

Isn’t Williams in his mid-30s?

Bobbie Williams…happy cp?

Before you start a franchise in Madden, edit the rosters. Change a player’s position. For Instance, Darrel Revis is ranked 12 at QB as opposed to 99 at CB. After changing his position, cut him. Then, sign him to the Saints at a 7 year contract. It will be very cheap with no guaranteed money. Next, edit him again and change him back to CB. Now you have one of the best players at the lowest possible price for 7 years.

save the roster to whatever name, then start a franchise using that roster. After your franchise is started, go back and delete the roster file that way your updated roster becomes the default one for anytime you actually play anyone for real.

In franchise mode, if you leave a bunch of free agents, like Peyton Manning as a LT on the roster when you start, you can sign him to pennies, and trade him back to the Colts for a first round pick. If you’ve got the mind to do this, all 10 of your picks can be round 1 choices.

Be sure to turn trade deadline off before you start franchise. This way, when the season is nearing end, the team drafting first will trade their first round choice for the team drafting last. I don’t know why they’ll easily swap like that, but you have to do it just before the season is over and draft position is set in stone. They live under the rule they’ll do better than you, even if they’re winless and you’re undefeated.

This way, you can now draft all 10 of your souped up players from NCAA.

Now, the only problem is who to cut.

I spent endless hours thinking of who I would pick and this is it. I feel robbed. Can we all pick a 2nd guy from each team then argue over which team is better? How about we pick 1 all time great player from each team? Or how about I just shut up?

I know both of you did not just go there

TWSS

Don’t act so surprised :)

and you wouldn’t believe what happened:
We had a decent season finishing 12-4 but second in the the NFC South to Atlanta (by one game)…still following?…so then we were in the Wildcard game, against the Seahawks, who were 8-8 and won the NFC West….go ahead and guess what happened next…you got it! We lost! By the exact same margin of 5 points! the score was 28-23 and we were making a comeback at the end of the game, we scored a TD from Brees to Gates in the 4th quarter, but couldn’t keep the Seahawks off the field.

I was laughing histerically for a while after that, and slowly turned into crying…oh! you’re still here..my apologies…Yeah, I’m gonna try to run the second season and see if we do any better. and from what I remember:

Brees , Long, and AP made the PB on offense and our entire LB core (Vilma, Willis, Matthews, and Harrison) all made the Pro Bowl. None of our WR’s had over 1k yards (I think Gates had the most w/ 900) so I guess Drew was spreading the ball around as usual. AP had over 1500 yards and 12 TDs on the ground.

We’d have a pretty badass special teams crew