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Four Saints Linebackers Looking to Break Through This Year or Risk Fading Into Obscurity

This is a really big year for four linebackers on the New Orleans Saints. I feel like Jo-Lonn Dunbar, Jonathan Casillas, Marvin Mitchell and Stanley Arnoux are all four at crossroads of their careers. Will they break through and become starters, or will their football careers dwindle to nothing?

That's the struggle a lot of 3rd and 4th year players face - about the time when the average NFL career ends. Eventually the team adds new young linebackers (like Martez Wilson and Nate Bussey) and your role on special teams and as a backup gets usurped by a younger player. At this point these guys need to answer this question - are they ready to be starters, or are their careers essentially over?

You don't see too many linebackers playing backup for 6+ years in the league. There are exceptions to the rule, but typically most linebackers that don't break into a starting role by Year Five end up starting careers in a new field altogether.

And that's exactly where these four guys stand as Dunbar (entering 4th season), Casillas (entering 3rd season), Arnoux (entering 3rd season), and Mitchell (entering 5th season) look to break though this year for the Saints. Is it possible any or even all of these four make the team again as a backup? Of course.

But now is as good of an opportunity as ever for these four guys, and you have to feel like the writing is on the wall for them if they don't break through NOW. Why? Because incumbent starters Scott Shanle and Danny Clark are both unrestricted free agents and we don't know if they'll be back. Even if they are back, neither player is so outstanding that they can't be beaten out by any one of the four promising youngsters I listed if they are able to put it all together (which they've yet to do).

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Looking at them individually:

Dunbar - He was off to such a great start in his NFL career. We were all talking about the devastating hits he laid on special teams in his first year. That's how he got everyone's attention. There was a lot to get excited about with this undrafted rookie free agent. He hits like a mule, he runs like the wind, and he's thick. Last year was his best year in terms of raw stats and production, but I feel like he fell out of favor with the coaching staff. For some reason he dropped off the ladder as the season progressed and now I start to question how much faith the organization still has in him.

Dunbar is a restricted free agent, so my guess is he'll be back with the team. He has to prove this offseason that he's either ready to start full time, or get back to being the headhunter on special teams that the Saints can't live without. If not, I fear this could be it for him. I'm sure someone would give him a chance if he didn't make the Saints, but once you're bouncing around from roster to roster trying to make the 53 man squad, that's usually when the writing is on the wall.

Casillas - He was slated to start until he went on injured reserve for the season prior to things getting started last year. I feel like if he has a setback again, injury-wise, his career is probably done. It's just tough to make it in the NFL as an unproven player if you deal with injury issues two years in a row. When you're coming back from a major injury it's tough because you have to prove you're healthy right away. He was another undrafted rookie free agent that turned a lot of heads his rookie season when he filled in for a temporarily injured Scott Shanle at starter. This guy's ceiling is probably the highest of the four if he can stay healthy. The coaching staff adores his hitting ability and instincts. I believe he can break through if he's healthy and doesn't come back a lesser player from being shelved all year last season.

Arnoux - Like Casillas, his injury history has been his biggest enemy. He's loaded with potential and he's another guy the coaching staff is really high on. I'd say that for him, even more than Casillas, one additional injury probably ends his career for good. This really is a monumental season for him in terms of defining his career. After spending all of 2009 on injured reserve, he got very limited action last year on special teams mostly. At some point the Saints aren't going to keep hanging on to him unless his potential turns into production.

Mitchell - he's probably the most stable of the four in terms of where his career stands at this point, but he's also an unrestricted free agent. Jonathan Vilma is the unquestioned starter at MLB and Mitchell may be tempted to go elsewhere in an attempt to get more playing time. He has played very well overall in a 3-4 scheme when the Saints used him alongside Vilma as the other inside linebacker. He's been a steady and reliable backup and last year was by far his most productive season. Playing behind Vilma has most likely seasoned him better than many, but it's also going to be tough for him to ever crack the starting lineup with the Saints. If he comes back to New Orleans, it'll be in the same role. He could be one of those few "career backup" or role player type guys, unless someone gives him an opportunity elsewhere to start. If that happens, he'd be smart to leave and jump on it. 

How do you see this year shaking out for these young, promising players? Do you agree that they're at crossroads in their careers and that it's now or never?

Poll
When it's all said and done, which of these four linebackers will have had the better career?
Jonathan Casillas
234 votes
Marvin Mitchell
44 votes
Stanley Arnoux
23 votes
Jo-Lonn Dunbar
58 votes

359 votes | Poll has closed

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another thing that will make a difference besides health &/or performance for these guys

is how much they feel they need to get paid – if they play ok, and are strictly backup/special teams/emergency starter material, Wil-Mis-Pay won’t mind keeping them around if the price is right.

Thumbs up, everybody...
For rock and roll!!!!

by Hans Petersen on Jun 30, 2011 7:45 AM CDT reply actions  

“Wil-Mis-Pay” Who is this? I take it the Pay is Payton.

Maybe MARY JANE will load up and pass the PEACE PIPE around the conference room and they’ll all get happy in a big hurry, which might just help speed up the process. - HansDat

by cscmember on Jun 30, 2011 7:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wil = Gregg Williams

Loo = Mickey Loomis

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by Hans Petersen on Jun 30, 2011 7:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Whats the Mis?

Maybe MARY JANE will load up and pass the PEACE PIPE around the conference room and they’ll all get happy in a big hurry, which might just help speed up the process. - HansDat

by cscmember on Jun 30, 2011 8:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hans is in the purple drank again

LooMIS. I thought he was talking about Vicki or Dennis there for a second.

I have a strong feeling that Mickey Loomis is running this whole show. He hired Payton. He certainly pulled the trigger on Gary Gibbs and approved bringing on Gregg Williams. Khai Harley is nothing more than Mickey’s hatchet man.

I think Mickey has done a lot more to affect the success of the Saints than most people give him credit for.

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by stujo4 on Jun 30, 2011 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

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Mickey is a pimp.

In Breesus' name we play

by Breesus Christ Superstar on Jun 30, 2011 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

thanks, Stu

I must not have been fully awake…

Thumbs up, everybody...
For rock and roll!!!!

by Hans Petersen on Jun 30, 2011 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Mic urinates confidence. He’s very fair, and he’s straight up. Every interview I heard he’s not disillusioned and very realistic and balanced with his opinions on our weakness, strengths, and every other subject. I like him a lot. I do give him very much credit, but I feel that he can only do his best because of Payton. Here’s my point— there is a great difference in the calibur of players brought in while Loomis WAS GM under Haslett and under Payton.

I know Loomis didn’t hire Haslett and that he took over after Meuller spent Benson’s money to pay off Haslett’s indescretion. Maybe Loomis couldn’t be more assertive coming into his job the way he did while Haslett was still there, I dunno. Certainly, the coaching is a lot better with this regime. However, I can’t reconcile the “looks like Tarzan plays like Jane” players from the Haslett era with the smart over-acheivers in the Payton era.

Bottom line is that Mickey has grown into his job and done fantastic since 2006, but it seems to me the difference in philosophy as to which players are brought on board has more to do with the coach’s preference. Mickey is a great money man; I just don’t know how much strength he personally has in player evaluation. Maybe his idea of what type of player coincides with Payton’s and it’s the perfect marriage. Or maybe he just defers to the coach’s preference of “find me players that fit these parameters”

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by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Jun 30, 2011 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

I voted Casillas

I think he is the most athletic of the bunch and he has the most potential. I hope he stays healthy and snags a starting spot along with Wilson. Mad love for Dunbar tho.

Who Dat?!!!

by saints whoaday on Jun 30, 2011 9:37 AM CDT reply actions  

Marvin Mitchell

is a solid backup and even better at the other ILB in the 3-4. He stays. Dunbar has shown he’s got a lot of potential. The Atlanta game towards the end of last season, he got the start and played extremely well. I think he could be a good back-up/spo starter. Casillas looks to be a starter going in to next season. How he performs there will decide how long he stays with the team. Arnoux is a big question mark at this point.

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by mknkachow on Jun 30, 2011 10:20 AM CDT reply actions  

They could be cut and not resigned by another team...

…end up bagging groceries at Win-Dixie in Thibodaux.

"It's more than a handful. It's a handsful."

by Dan Kelly on Jun 30, 2011 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Isn't that where they signed Kurt Warner?

Just wonderin’.

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by Just 'Nother Day on Jun 30, 2011 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thik it was Piggly-Wiggly, but... yeah, sorta.

He did kick ass in the AFL while bagging groceries.

"It's more than a handful. It's a handsful."

by Dan Kelly on Jul 1, 2011 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

It was Schwegmann’s man, Schwegmann’s.

Maybe MARY JANE will load up and pass the PEACE PIPE around the conference room and they’ll all get happy in a big hurry, which might just help speed up the process. - HansDat

by cscmember on Jul 1, 2011 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

The obvious choice is Casillas. I know fans take great pride in those “diamond in the rough” UDFA’s we discover in training camp. Everyone roots for an underdog. I think Marvin Mitchell stays with the team— he’s valuable depth. With Dunbar and especially Arnoux, I agree this is the year potential needs to be realized.

I think Dunbar is a try hard guy who needs to keep that motor running and match it with football smarts— he needs to be in the right place at the right time and anticipate greatly; he needs to study his butt off to get there.

I think Arnoux of course needs to stay healthy. He as well needs to study so that his anticipation is better. He’s got the athletic ability to make up when out of position, but if the game would slow down for him, he’d be what we saw in Casillas for that one pre-season game.

I won’t say the ceiling has been reached on Marvin Mitchell, but I don’t believe he’s far from it. Maybe he can start at one of the OLB positions and play well because he’s smart, but he doesn’t have the athletic ability to make you say wow or to be more than average in a starting role.

Preparation, instinct, intangibles, and smarts can only take you so far. Scheme can help spotlight the best a player has to offer. But if we’re talking about better than average— a player that can start on most teams and not by default because there’s no one else— you need athletic ability to go with all the above, or just freaky athletic ability alone.

That said, none are freaks, but Cassilas and Arnoux have enough natural ability to compliment a workhorse football junkie work ethic. If they get to that point in preparation, they will become GOOD.

Stop wearing a wishbone where your backbone ought to be. Would you be convicted in court of being a Christian? Happiness is shared, and comes from sharing.

by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Jun 30, 2011 9:45 PM CDT reply actions  

They’ll all be gone in less than three seasons.

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by coldpizza on Jun 30, 2011 10:33 PM CDT reply actions  

I think Casillas has sticking power IF he stays healthy. I agree about the other 3.

Stop wearing a wishbone where your backbone ought to be. Would you be convicted in court of being a Christian? Happiness is shared, and comes from sharing.

by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Jun 30, 2011 11:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

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