Accountability Index Update

by stujo4 on Jul 10, 2011 2:57 PM CDT

Post draft, pre training camp. Not many resolutions.

Date	Name	Assertion	Remarks	Resolution
Apr 29 2011	were gonna need a bigger boat Jeff Duncan	Louisville lovers love Johnny Patrick	So does Johnny Patrick. Via Twitter: JohnnyP019 Johnny Patrick Bored
Apr 29 2011 Jun 8 2011	xen-cuts were gonna need a bigger boat Andrew Juge	Ingram pick cost too much with too much risk. Overrated, potential bust.	Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
May 1 2011	xen-cuts	Ingram scores only 2 to 4 TD's IF he makes the team.	But not their own facts.
May 1 2011	Hi_Fidelity	Ingram has injury concerns, may not have been the best running back prospect in the draft, and doesn't represent a great upgrade over Thomas/Ivory. and when you consider the price, it was a bad pick unless Ingram puts his butt in the Pro Bowl multiple times or keys another Super Bowl run.	You remind me of that Colts fan I argued with at breakfast in the hotel on Super Bowl morning. I told him I'd meet him for breakfast at the same place on Monday morning and we'd finish the discussion. I showed up, he didn't. I'll be here to see this play out too. Will you?
Jul 6 2011	coldpizza stujo4	Ingram starts more games than Jordan in 2011	Does Cam Jordan have a playbook yet? Does Ingram even need one?
Apr 28 2011	HansDat	Morstead and 2011 Saints will set NFL record for fewest punts and team record for 6 games without a punt	Purple Drank talkin'.
Mar 17 2011	stujo4 Breesus Christ Superstar Northfan	NFL CBA will be signed before any 2011 games are lost	Things are looking up.
Mar 4 2011	Ranger565	Saints RB's: 1. PT 2. Chris Ivory 3. Reggie 4. Hamilton	This was pre-draft. Sorry, Ranger. Although catastrophe could still happen. You're still alive until they break camp.
Apr 24 2011	MtnExile	Thinks our run game will be Top 5.	Maybe if Payton calls that many running plays.
Jan 9 2011	Bob Marshall, T-P	Saints To-Do List: Don't rest on your laurels	Just for the record, to hold PayLoo accountable
	BM, cont'd	Get a pass rush.	If that's measured in sacks, then this probably didn't get done.
	BM, cont'd	Find an elite deep threat.	Adrian Arrington hasn't shown much eliteness.
	BM, cont'd	Find more running backs	INGRAMANIA!!	BOOM!! Marking this one complete.
	BM, cont'd tlsk1066	Overhaul your return and coverage teams.	tlsk thinks this got done with Johnny Patrick and Nate Bussey. We'll see.
Jan 10 2011	Satch saint-sly	NFL players and owners will reach an agreement by March and all will continue as normal provided they drop the 18-game schedule idea.	Missed it. Satch regroups and predicts we'll miss no more than 2 preseason games.
Jan 14 2011	VAsaintsfan	Skeptical of Denver Post's statement that Kyle Orton is likely to be traded in the offseason	Still controversial. Might sit behind Tebow. Go Broncos.
Jan 16 2011	Jeff Duncan	To Do List: Sign Brees	And pay him more than Manning or Brady? Or insult him by paying him less? Franchise tag buys some time.
	cont'd	Reggie-pay cut/trade/cut	Solution changes with the wind.
	cont'd	Cut Shockey-keep Graham/D Thomas	Half done
	cont'd	Cut Kyle/Gay, keep Dresher/P-Rob	Looking probable due to his salary requirements, if not his concussion history.
	cont'd	Retain Bushrod, Harper, Moore, P Thomas	PT done, we'll see about the rest
	cont'd	Shanle, Ayodele, Hargrove-Paycut or cut	Shanle more likely to stay on than the other two.
	cont'd	Goodwin, Evans, Strief, Charleston, Prioleau, Torrence-release, resign at Saints' leisure	They'll serve at the leisure of the executive Vice President (Loomis) when gets around to making an offer. Or not.
	cont'd	(Tennant replaces Goodwin, Casillas replaces Shanle)	Tennant more likely than Casillas, I'm thinking.
	cont'd	Draft a DE to help Will Smith	Cameron Jordan	boom done, we'll see how much help he is
	cont'd	Free agency niceties- young fullback, reserve interior OL, K/P returner	See ya, Heath Evans.
	cont'd	Educate and overhaul TUSK!	Cannon fodder, no longer a priority with INGRAMANIA!!
Apr 28 2011	stujo4	Whoever drafts Da'Quan Bowers will see him balloon up during the inevitable rehab	This is not happening, I was wrong. At least, for THIS rehab. Will he make it through his rookie season?
May 1 2011	GSO Saints Fan	The Falcons will begin a steep decline based on this draft.	You might be out on a limb here, GSO.
May 1 2011	were gonna need a bigger boat	Martez Wilson, not Mark Ingram, makes the biggest impact of all rookies this season.	And you are hanging by a leaf.
May 2 2011	coldpizza	Three NFC South teams with double digit win totals in 2011.	I'm sure Cold P has done the math and it's quite possible, but it sure seems unlikely. Oh I forget about the Panters going 0-6 intradivision.
May 2 2011	Northfan	Wilson probably has the best chance of our drafted rookies to win Rookie of the Year	Leaf hanger.
May 2 2011	tommy	Junior Galette will be a starter this year	Hail Mary, full of grace. Varney doesn't think so either.
May 9 2011	coldpizza	2011 RB's: Ingram, Thomas, Ivory, J Bell. Bush gets cut outright prior to training camp	If Reggie cuts a much better deal under the table with Pete Carroll, sure.
May 4 2011	skinnykinney	Ingram won't have more than 3 games with 13+ carries	Send a fax to Mickey: "You're a moron!"
May 4 2011	coldpizza	Ingram will have 8 games with 13+ carries & 50%+ more rushing yards than teammates	Send a fax to Mickey: "You still gave up way too much for INGRAMANIA!!"
May 4 2011	jray2000	Martez Wilson will be the best overall performer of our draft class	I thought we covered this already.
May 11 2011	Andrew Juge Saint for life	Heath Evans will probably/def be on the opening day roster	With that aging big mouth? Not bloody likely.
May 13 2011	Preston J. Gary, Jr.	Saints will pursue Rocky McIntosh and Barry Cofield	I'm not going to look them up again.
Jun 2 2011	jeff	Doesn't believe A Arrington will be a regular rotation receiver In 2011	Hey, don't go all in or anything there, jeff.
Jun 18 2011	tommy	PhotoOp makes the roster	Even if Reggie leaves, I can't see it.
April 18 2011	stujo4	Scott Shanle will return to the Saints in 2011	Did they draft a starting linebacker? Well, did they?
Jan 21 2011	bondcrash	OT Charles Brown is the starter by Sep 2011	Post surgery, he wasn't even cleared to run until the first of June. But hey, I was wrong about Bowers, so...
Nov 2 2010	Stujo4	The over thrown would be TD pass to Strief in week 8 of 2010 indicates Brees' QB career peaked in 2009	Not that I'm happy about it or anything. But after every pick and underthrown pass, I'll be going GAAAA!!! a little more vociferously.
May 14 2010	VAsaintsfan	Condemned Ricky Williams draft day trade, applauded Tebow draft day trade	Hey, Ricky's going to play somewhere this year.
May 17 2010	Frenchie	Believes Payton was addicted to Vicodin and Loomis aided cover-up	Might be a good clue to crack this case if someone examined Payton's and Joe Vitt's laxative addictions.
Jul 2 2011	Preston J. Gary, Jr.	Shaun Rogers will make a big impact on defense for the Saints in 2011.	Especially if he falls on a teammate and breaks their leg.
Jul 2 2011	Preston J. Gary, Jr.	If Reggie stays, he will have a more impactful season than his rookie year and the offense will be more dangerous than in 2009.	This is going to take more than a few Hail Marys and Our Fathers. Maybe more than a Jesus1000 intervention.
Jun 23 2011	Jeff Duncan	Chances of being a Saint in 2011: Reggie 30-40% Lance 80-90%	I don't think Jeff Duncan gambles very much.
May 4 2011	TAYDIGGA	Reggie's new contract will be at least $4 million a year, traded or restructured	It won't be for lack of effort on his agent's part.
May 3 2011	stujo4	Reggie needs to have a good camp, or PayLoo will cut him without a contract offer.	Probably not an issue since he's supposebly running unofficial 4.2 40's. (Joey on Friends just popped into my head.)
Mar 22 2011	coldpizza	Reggie will not sign a new contract prior to mid-August 2011	Assuming the CBA is signed next week, it has to be sooner than that, right?
June 11 2010	coldpizza	CP thinks PT and Reggie both gone in 2011	Could still happen. But the Devil needs to get busy.
May 20 2011	stujo4	Reggie will retire having played all his NFL games as a Saint.	Aw, that was sweet. Now, will he still be a fan favorite?

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Love IT!

the purple drank still tastes sooo good.

Have you faxed this to Loomis yet?

Thumbs up, everybody...
For rock and roll!!!!

by Hans Petersen on Jul 10, 2011 3:09 PM CDT reply actions

you forgot a tag

“paging Dr. Melfi”

Thumbs up, everybody...
For rock and roll!!!!

by Hans Petersen on Jul 10, 2011 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions

Speaking of Jeff,

Anyone seen him around? He’s been quiet.

Canal Street Chronicles-A place of great Saints news and information. Oh and the stuff I write!
"I rejected those answers. Instead, I chose something different. I chose the impossible. I chose...Rapture!"

by Jon Banks on Jul 10, 2011 3:13 PM CDT reply actions

yeah - June 16 was his last post...

maybe summer vacation? another cruise with no wifi?

Thumbs up, everybody...
For rock and roll!!!!

by Hans Petersen on Jul 10, 2011 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions

speaking of absent members...Stu - meant to tell you

MtnExile posted a comment for the first time in nearly a month – didja see it? It was in the Shaun Rogers story.

Thumbs up, everybody...
For rock and roll!!!!

by Hans Petersen on Jul 10, 2011 3:38 PM CDT reply actions

I did

It made me all warm inside and out.

by stujo4 on Jul 10, 2011 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions

Out on a limb?

Yeah, but it’s a big, thick oak limb.

:-P

Irony: an atheist Saints fan

by GSO Saints Fan on Jul 10, 2011 6:08 PM CDT reply actions

Darn...

I’m not on the list this time.

I’m so bored with this freakin’ lockout, I’m about to start making so bold predictions.

"It's more than a handful. It's a handsful."

by Dan Kelly on Jul 10, 2011 8:46 PM CDT reply actions

I figured you had just blocked all of us

In Breesus' name we play

by Breesus Christ Superstar on Jul 10, 2011 9:13 PM CDT reply actions

I have yet to make it on the damn index even once. I know I’m not that level-headed. I must just be boring.

by Jimbo03 on Jul 12, 2011 11:02 AM CDT reply actions

If you can make a dumb Tebow declaration, I’ll throw you a bone.

by stujo4 on Jul 12, 2011 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions

Tebow is the best damn FB the Broncos have.

Maybe MARY JANE will load up and pass the PEACE PIPE around the conference room and they’ll all get happy in a big hurry, which might just help speed up the process. - HansDat

by cscmember on Jul 12, 2011 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions

that's not that dumb lol

Let's have a 2011 season. Get a deal done

by skinnykinney on Jul 12, 2011 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions

Darn, I tried.

Maybe MARY JANE will load up and pass the PEACE PIPE around the conference room and they’ll all get happy in a big hurry, which might just help speed up the process. - HansDat

by cscmember on Jul 12, 2011 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions

I like the idea stujo4. Can someone explain Jesus 1000? I’ve been seeing it all over the place.

P.S.— I’ve seen you use another line I like, to the effect of “better the devil you know”.

Stop wearing a wishbone where your backbone ought to be. Would you be convicted in court of being a Christian? Happiness is shared, and comes from sharing.

by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Jul 12, 2011 4:25 PM CDT reply actions

Jesus1000, or J1k as he was also called, was a unique character here at CSC for all/most of the 2009 season.

His posts/comments were very religiously slanted, and a bit out there. He even offend many of the Christian members of CSC with the content of his posts.

I believe he moved on to the Lions site for a while, and then was eventually banned (i think) from CSC when he returned for a short stint.

"It's more than a handful. It's a handsful."

by Dan Kelly on Jul 12, 2011 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions

If you really care to read some of what he said, you can check the links on his profile:

http://www.sbnation.com/users/Jesus1000

"It's more than a handful. It's a handsful."

by Dan Kelly on Jul 12, 2011 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions

I’ve always been inspired by his avatar.

by stujo4 on Jul 12, 2011 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions

"Ingram starts more games than Jordan in 2011"

“Does Cam Jordan have a playbook yet? Does Ingram even need one?”

Do either need them? Payton to Ingram- "Run up the middle(insert left or right if you prefer). Williams to Jordan- “Kill the QB”

I don’t think that Ingram will start more games than Jordan especially with Jordan almost guaranteed 4 starts with Smith being out. He’ll probably play in more but he won’t start more than 4 barring injuries to PT and Bush(if he stays). Jordan has a good chance to start 4 games

Let's have a 2011 season. Get a deal done

by skinnykinney on Jul 12, 2011 8:12 PM CDT reply actions

See, Jimbo3? THAT’s how you do it! List, boom.

by stujo4 on Jul 12, 2011 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions

Hahahahaha!

Alright. I think I have the idea now. ><

by Jimbo03 on Jul 13, 2011 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions

how about at FF prediction. Jimmy Graham will have 10 TD’s. Boom.

Stop wearing a wishbone where your backbone ought to be. Would you be convicted in court of being a Christian? Happiness is shared, and comes from sharing.

by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Jul 12, 2011 10:11 PM CDT reply actions

NICE!

I’ll snag him in the 2nd round then.

"It's more than a handful. It's a handsful."

by Dan Kelly on Jul 12, 2011 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions

Gates, Gronkowski and Marcedes Lewis led all TE’s with 10 last year. Listed.

Man buys ring, woman throws it away
Same old thing happen every day

by stujo4 on Jul 13, 2011 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions

Yep. Probably not happening. I’d guess Ingram leads the team in all-purpose TDs and I really don’t see more than 10 for him.

"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Jul 14, 2011 1:47 AM CDT up reply actions

Brees excluded.

"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Jul 14, 2011 1:47 AM CDT up reply actions

up late again I see…packing or playing?

by snowboard_kat on Jul 14, 2011 5:27 AM CDT up reply actions

~~Playing~~ Trying to find my sense of urgency.

"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Jul 14, 2011 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions

How about this?

Sean Payton will switch from Juicy Fruit to Fruit Stripe next season.

Here’s some serious ones for the list that you might disagree with:

“Drew Brees will prove he is not in decline by throwing less than 10 interceptions and winning the league MVP award.”
“Pierre Thomas will lead the team for the season in rushing yards and rushing TDs.”
“Darren Sharper won’t play another snap for the Saints.”

I actually kinda believe these little predictions. Kinda. But, I’ve been wrong before.

"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!

by David "Satch" Kelly on Jul 14, 2011 10:01 AM CDT reply actions

I’ll get on that bandwagon, with a small statistical twist…

My prediction:

"Drew Brees will prove he is not in decline by giving up fewer than than 20 turnovers (INT + FUM), ending with a QB Rating over 100, and being a finalist* (top 3) for the league MVP award."

I just want to predict what Drew will do, not what the media is going to award him.

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - M.H.

by Dan Kelly on Jul 14, 2011 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions

I agree.

The years keep flyin' by like the highline poles

by stujo4 on Jul 14, 2011 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions

I’ll buy the third one. And possibly the second half of the first one.

"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Jul 14, 2011 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions

I need to start invoking a penalty for wrong predictions or declarations. My sarcastic summations do not sting nearly enough. Hmmm…

The years keep flyin' by like the highline poles

by stujo4 on Jul 14, 2011 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions

Let's see if this one will do it...

The Saints will have a 1000 yard rusher next year.

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - M.H.

by Dan Kelly on Jul 14, 2011 3:28 PM CDT reply actions

edit:

“One of the Saints running backs will have at least 1000 yards next year.”

…I don’t want you splitting hairs.

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - M.H.

by Dan Kelly on Jul 14, 2011 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions

“next year” = “this coming football season”

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - M.H.

by Dan Kelly on Jul 14, 2011 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions

Rushing, from scrimmage or all-purpose?

"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Jul 14, 2011 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions

You said “rusher” at first, then amended it.

"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Jul 14, 2011 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions

At least one player on the Saints team will have over 1,000 total rushing yards during the next full season of NFL football.

“Total rushing yards” is determined by the stats at ESPN.com… YDS column – http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/player/_/stat/rushing

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - M.H.

by Dan Kelly on Jul 15, 2011 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions

Listed. Oh, that’s not my job. Good thing stu can’t see this comment.

Maybe MARY JANE will load up and pass the PEACE PIPE around the conference room and they’ll all get happy in a big hurry, which might just help speed up the process. - HansDat

by cscmember on Jul 15, 2011 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions

I’m so sorry, the deadline for weaseling and waffling has passed. Your assertion will be judged on its merits in its original form. What are you worried about? I’m always fair.

The years keep flyin' by like the highline poles

by stujo4 on Jul 16, 2011 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions

waffling? It says the same thing, just lawyered a bit for CP. Take whichever form you want. As long as I get on the list. :-)

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - M.H.

by Dan Kelly on Jul 16, 2011 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions

Oh so you admit weaseling? Very well, Listed.

The years keep flyin' by like the highline poles

by stujo4 on Jul 16, 2011 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions

lol

uh huh

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - M.H.

by Dan Kelly on Jul 16, 2011 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions

How about this one...

In the unlikely event we get WR Vincent Jackson (you do know who he is, right? j/k), Drew Brees will throw at least 50 TD’s and over 5000 yards.

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - M.H.

by Dan Kelly on Jul 16, 2011 12:34 PM CDT reply actions

I don’t want to give you a barometric reading of intelligence here or anything, but let’s just say it’s trending down.

The years keep flyin' by like the highline poles

by stujo4 on Jul 16, 2011 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions

In Jackson’s best season as a professional, he totaled 68 receptions for 1167 yards and 9 TDs. In terms of distribution percentages, he’s played in an offense extremely similar to the Saints’ throughout his career.

In 2010, Lance Moore — our least productive WR in ypc, as well as the WR least likely to be retained, if Jackson were to sign — totaled 66 receptions for 763 yards and 8 TDs. That’s a difference of roughly 400 yards and 1 TD. In short, the 17 TD spike is a pipe dream. The 5K is possible, but only if Brees is still passing in excess of 40 times per game on average. Unless we’re running 70 offensive plays per game minimum, that sounds like the formula for a 7-9 win season.

"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Jul 18, 2011 4:14 AM CDT up reply actions

yeah Jackson is severly overrated!

2010 is cuzzin's breakout year...run with that chip bruh!

by TAYDIGGA on Jul 18, 2011 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions

Welcome Back To Me

Hello to all, glad to see you are all doing well. It has been a while since I have been on the boards and thought to myself – “Self, what better way to come back to the CSC pages than Stu’s Infamouse Accountability Index”, and self just couldn’t think of a better way. Sorry i just went away last year, but work became more important to maintain as the season went on. Anyway, since I haven’t been on the accountability list since last year, I guess it is time for a few jabs at stu to try to get back on the list.

1 – Saints beat Green Bay to start the season.
2 – Brees throws for 4800+ yards – 38TD’s – 14 INT’s
3 – Mark Ingram runs for 800+ yards with 7TD rushing and 4TD’s receiving (Barring Injury)
4 – If Cameron Jordan starts for the Saints he will have 7 1/2 sacks this year.
5 – Stu will GAAAAAA at one of my predictions until he realizes it is a joke and can not be taken seriously.
6 – Tim Tebow will be traded for Chase Daniels so we can replace Heath evans at FB.
7 – I made #6 too easy for Stu to laugh at.

Underestimate No One, Take Nothing For Granted

by SaintsFanInIraq on Jul 28, 2011 2:49 AM CDT reply actions

I'm glad to see you're back.

You were one of several people I missed & wondered about. This also reminds me that I haven’t been on the grudge list for over a year, so it’s probably time for me to put the Harry Coleman kiss of death on one of our UDFA’s. This year’s choice is WR Jarrod Fayson. I predict he will be a pleasant surprise and make the initial 53-man roster.

"Dang! The Saints won the Super Bowl!" - my wife, Meso "Happy" Hu Dat.

by Dang Hu Dat on Jul 29, 2011 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions

For some reason

I think you did that intentionally just to get rid of the kid.

Oh, and thanks for the welcome back. I preshaycha.

Underestimate No One, Take Nothing For Granted

by SaintsFanInIraq on Jul 29, 2011 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions

if we beat the Packers in the season opener that would be the first time in a long time that the defending champs lost their first game of the following season

Yes, time flies. And where did it leave you? Old too soon...smart too late. - Mike Tyson

by lovingmma25 on Jul 29, 2011 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions

Redskins re-sign Rocky McIntosh.

Stop wearing a wishbone where your backbone ought to be. Would you be convicted in court of being a Christian? Happiness is shared, and comes from sharing.

by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Aug 3, 2011 9:50 PM CDT reply actions

Who now???

http://profootball.scout.com/a.z?s=127&p=9&c=12&yr=2011&nid=83&lnid=83&rc=16&pid=27

"It ain't about how hard you hit, it is about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward, how much can you take and KEEP MOVING FORWARD. That's how winning is done!" - Rocky

by Dan Kelly on Aug 3, 2011 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions