NFC South Positional Rankings: Part One - Offense And Kicker
For every team, the first priority is always "win your division." Teams are built with divisional opponents in mind. If you play in a division where every team likes to pound the rock, like the AFC North, you need to build your defense a little differently than if you played in the AFC South where Peyton Manning and Matt Schuab like to air it out. More simply put, teams try to find players who can win divisional match-ups. Watch a team get some never before seen athletic freak at _____ position, and every other team in that division will soon try to find a player to defend or counter that freak while also trying to find a clone who creates similar match-up problems.
Each team has players on their rosters who probably wouldn't be there if they played in another division. Think about it: play in a division where every team uses 3 or 4 WR's for the majority of offensive snaps, and carrying an extra S and CB is more of a priority. If every team in a division has a TE who draws bracket coverage, finding that top notch S or LB moves near the top of the priority list come draft time and free agency. If you are unable to adequately defend a particular match-up in your division, you may have difficulty making the playoffs. Win the positional match-ups, win the game. Win the most divisional games, win the division and make the playoffs.
Over the course of the next month, NFL rosters will change dramatically. It is thought that a new CBA will be agreed upon within the next week and that a free agent class twice the normal size will rush to get signed and into camp. We'll rank and compare each position in the NFC South. Doing so, you may get a glimpse of the direction each team is headed or the positions each team will target when free agency begins. After the dust settles and the regular season is about to kick-off, we'll do this again to see how free agency, training camp and injuries might have changed the picture.
This piece deals with all the positions on offense as well as kicker. In a few days, I'll post an article ranking the defensive positions and punters. We'll wrap it up with a third column summarizing the trends and positional advantages, i.e. what each team should be looking to fill in free agency in order to exploit a weakness or defend their own.
Quarterback:
1.Saints-- Drew Brees, Chase Daniel -- Superbowl MVP. Need I say more?
2. Buccaneers-- Josh Freeman, Josh Johnson -- I look at what Freeman did (with less) and give him the edge over Matt Ryan. Freeman scares me, Ryan does not. Freeman isn't hesitant to stretch the field, and he doesn't have poop stains for everyone to see.
3. Falcons -- Matt Ryan, Chris Redman-- He impresses me with the way he carries himself. But the moniker "Matty Ice" makes me want to puke on a cheerleader. Don't go Romo on Ryan -- make him earn a nick-name with post-season success before you crown him. Let him grow a pair and not be so predictable. Really want to know why I rank Ryan 3rd in the division? He had a top 5 rushing offense and a defense that was top 3 in take-aways. His passing numbers (and offense) were mediocre. Drew Brees was in the same situation the year before and put up MVP numbers despite splitting time with a top 5 rushing attack, and his offense was No. 1 in the NFL.
4. Panthers-- Cam Newton, Jimmy Clausen, Matt Moore -- I'm not Nostradamus but I predict that Newton will have a great season. Who is he throwing to? Is he throwing? I've never been a Newton fan (LSU! LSU! LSU!), but he doesn't seem to have very much on his side to help him become a better pro. He especially doesn't have an off-season to learn from coaches. Maybe Carolina should bring Jake back to give Newton a month to sit and watch.
Running Back:
1. Panthers-- Jonathen Stewart, DeAngelo Williams, Mike Goodson, Josh Vaughan, Tyrell Sutton -- I don't believe the Panthers will be able to keep both bell-cows, but for the time being, that tandem tops the list.
2. Saints-- Mark Ingram, Pierre Thomas, Reggie Bush, Chris Ivory -- With the addition of Ingram, the Saints may move up to the top position once the season is underway. I'd rather have the Panther's combo of Stewart/Williams, but the Saints have a more versatile group.
3. Falcons -- Micheal Turner, Jason Snelling, Jerrious Norwood, Jacquizz Rodgers, Antone Smith, Gartrell Johnson -- The only thing that really scares me is the addtion of Rodgers. How will he translate? I'm not sure, but he will create a few match-up problems if he can stay on the field. White, Jones, Gonzo, Turner, and Rodgers can be a scary combo to defend.
4. Buccaneers -- LaGarrette Blount, Allen Bradford, Carnell Williams, Earnest Graham, Kareem Huggins, Kregg Lumpkin -- if Cadillac never lost a wheel, they'd be much higher on the list. Though I will say Graham is a steady over-achiever who never gets the credit - and carries - he deserves. He'll play fullback when asked and is a very unselfish leader.
Fullback:
1. Falcons-- Ovie Mughelli-- Hands down, one of the best in the NFL.
2. Saints-- Heath Evans and occasionally Dave Thomas -- Perhaps the Saints could use some youth here?
3. Buccaneers-- Taylor Rendrick and Earnest Graham and Erik Lorig-- I love Earnest.
4. Carolina-- Rashawn Jackson and Tony Flametta-- I have no clue who this is.
Wide Receiver:
1. Saints-- Marques Colston, Robert Meachem, Lance Moore, Devery Henderson, Adrian Arrington, Montez Billings, Courtney Roby, Andy Tanner-- This is the best group in the division. Maybe top 5 in the NFL. Each player compliments the other and fulfills their role precisely.
2. Falcons -- Roddy White, Julio Jones, Tim Buckley, Harry Douglas, Brandyn Harvey, Michael Jenkins, Kerry Meier, Andy Strickland, Eric Weems -- Maybe some might view the combo of Jones and White as more potent than the entire Saints group.
3. Buccanerrs -- Mike Williams, Arrelious Benn, Micheal Spurlock, Sammy Stroughter, Maurice Stovall, Dezmon Briscoe, Ed Gant, Preston Parker -- This group is only going to get better.
4. Carolina -- Steve Smith, Brandon LaFell, Armanti Edwards, David Clowney, David Gettis, Trent Guy, Charly Martin, Kealoha Pilares, Wallace Wrigh t-- Carolina needs a quality wide receiver (or two) in the worst way.
Tight End:
1. Buccaneers -- Kellen Winslow, Luke Stocker, Ryan Purvis, Nathan Overbay, Erik Lorig, Daniel Hardy, John Gilmore -- Stocker and Winslow will make a nice duo.
2. Saints-- Jimmy Graham, Dave Thomas, Tyler Lorenzen, Tory Humphrey -- Jimmy Graham is a freak. David Thomas is versatile. The Saints could use an in-line blocker but as a receiving duo, this group will rival Stocker and Winslow. Perhaps the Saints make a play on Carolina's Dante Rosario in free agency?
3. Falcons -- Tony Gonzalez, Robbie Agnone, Justin Peele, Micheal Palmer -- Gonzo is a future first ballet HOF'er, but the clowns don't have much behind him and he is getting up there in age.
4. Panthers -- Jeremy Shockey, Dante Rosario, Jeff King, Gary Barnidge -- Shockey has lost a step; he no longer garners bracket coverage. `I love Rosario, and hope the Saints do their best to steal him.
Tackle:
1. Panthers -- Jordan Gross, Jeff Otah, Jacob Bender, Lee Ziemba, Garry Williams-- For now, the Panthers have the best starting book-ends in the division. The Panthers got a steal with Ziemba.
2. Saints -- Jermon Bushrod, John Stinchcomb, Zach Strief, Charles Brown, Roger Allen -- You could say the Saints have four good RT's or three good swing tackles, and you'd be right. The versatility (and continuity) put the Saints in second place.
3. Buccaneers -- Donald Penn, Jeremy Trueblood, James Lee, Will Barker, Demar Dotson, Derek Hardman, James Lee -- Trueblood took a step back last year and gave his starting job to Lee.
4. Falcons -- Tyson Clabo, Sam Baker, Garrett Reynolds, Will Svitek-- Some of their guards play tackle, and vice versa. Sam Baker never really materialized, and they don't have much in terms of true tackle depth.
Guard:
1. Saints -- Carl Nicks, Jhari Evans, Matt Tennant, Roger Allen, Brian De La Puente, -- the Saints could really use some depth here. Nicks/Evans is maybe the top guard tandem in the NFL let along the division. I can't put a group of good depth over two starters who dominate and are on the field every snap; which is why two great guards and no back-ups will get you top ranking and conversely why two top WR's and no back-ups won't (Atlanta).
2. Buccaneers -- Jeremy Zuttah, Davin Joseph, Ted Larson, Derek Hardman, Brandon Carter, John Malecki, Marc Dile -- Tampa had a few injuries to the offensive line and really had to shuffle it last year. Zuttah was playing center for Faine and I have no clue what happened to Joseph. But I think the versatility and depth of this group earns them a spot over an Atlanta trio I really like.
3. Falcons -- Justin Blaylock, Harvey Dahl, Andrew Jackson, Joe Hawley, Mike Johnson, Jose Valdez -- Blaylock and Dahl are very solid and I love Andrew Jackson -- good value in the draft.
4. Panthers -- Travelle Wharton, Geoff Schwartz, Zach Williams, Duke Robinson, CJ Davis, Mackenzy Bernadeau -- at least they can run block.
Center/Long Snapper (this is the toughest group on offense to rank):
1. Panthers -- Ryan Kalil, JJ Jansen (LS)-- Kalil's the only true C on their roster, but with his youth, he's the best right now in the division.
2. Buccaneers -- Jeff Faine, Jeremy Zuttah, Ted Larson, John Malecki, Andrew Economos (LS) -- Only one center plays at a time, so I gave Kalil from the Panthers the edge. But as a group with great depth, the Bucs get the No. 2 spot.
3. Saints -- Jonathen Goodwin, Matt Tennant, Jason Kyle (LS), Justin Dresher (LS) -- I'll take the experience, talent and youth mix of Tennant and Goodwin over what Atlanta has to offer. I think the Saints got great value when the moved up and snagged Tennant in last year's draft. The guy will be nasty whenever Goodwin decides to retire or move on.
4. Falcons-- Todd McClure, Rob Bruggeman, Joe Zelenka (LS) -- I love McClure, and while he's only a year older than Goodwin, I don't see a talent like Tennant waiting in the wings.
Kicker:
1. Falcons -- Matt Bryant -- He's the real Matty Ice.
2. Saints -- Garrett Hartley -- Three 40+ yard FG's in the Super Bowl and another to get the Saints there. In two seasons, he's done enough to make the front office confident enough to give him a nice contract.
3. Buccaneers -- Conner Barth -- who wants a mustache ride? This guy is pretty young but he's making a name for himself.
4. Panthers -- John Kasay and Rhys Lloyd-- Kasay has played 21 years in the NFL; he's 41 years old. When you have two kickers on the roster, you're waisting a roster spot and have tough decisions to make when faced with kicking a field goal 45 yards or longer.
Post Script:
I'm sure I'll be labled a "homer" for a few of these rankings. Guilty as charged. However, I do have logic to back my point up with so I'm going to take the next few minutes to further explain some of my choices I think will get the most criticism -- call it "proactive apologetics".
Drew Brees has led the NFL in almost every passing statistic since he became the Saints starter in 2006. From 2006 through 2010, no one has played better. FACT, not homerism. Drew has had what many may describe as a rag-tag group of WR's to work with. Yes, Meachem was a first round choice. Wasn't Colston a 7th round rookie under Drew? Wasn't Lance Moore and UDFA? Wasn't Devery a highly inconsistant reach under the "looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane" regime of Haslett? Devery's one significant play at LSU was a fluke known as the "Bluegrass Miracle". Adrian Arrington is another 7th rounder.
Yet this group of wide-outs have worked their tales off with Drew and are very good in our offensive system. They run PRECISION routes. You've got two that use their bodies and gain separation despite lack of top end speed. You've got two others with top end speed who will hurt you with the seam route. You've got another guy that fits perfectly in the slot. They compliment each other. One goes down, another steps in, you don't see any drop off in production -- Production that has led the entire NFL over the last 5 years.
So I am pretty sure that merits their ranking above Atlanta's WR's. The combo of Roddy White and Julio Jones certainly is enticing, but take them away, and what have you got? Remember the combo of Randy Moss and Wes Welker? The Saints figured out how to take that away when they were playing very hot, with a depleted secondary. Know how that turned out? Know what New England did the next offseason? They upgraded that position and the TE position because having two very good guys isn't enough now that this is officially a passing league and Nickle defense sees the field more than 50% of the time for ALL teams.
I'll gladly take the "homer" label for my ranking of TE. Jimmy Graham has been consistant and impactful in just a very short time, and Dave Thomas has been both versatile and consistant. You could argue Gonzo is the G.O.A.T., but the only other team that will have a very good two TE combo is the one ranked ahead of us. Gonzo is on the fence with retirement. He'll play if there is a season and retire if there isn't. I'm going on youth and potential, and if it isn't true by the end of this year, it will be true next.
As for RB, Cadillac Williams won't be back in Tampa. Jerrious Norwood won't be back in Atlanta. For "I don't think the Bucs would trade RB's with us", I'm pretty sure they are foaming at the mouth with thoughts of adding Reggie right now. I'm unimpressed with Snelling and anyone not named Turner on the Falcons, and though Turner is a pounder, what happens when he's banged up? Rodgers potetial scares me, but as of now he's as unproven and likely to make no impact like Joe McKniight. Tampa has a nice 1-2 with Earnest Graham and Blount, but neither team has the versatility or complete group that can do everything from blitz pick-up to screens to catching passes out of the backfield to inside and outside running that the Saints now have, so I'll stand firm there.
Sure, I'm a homer, but it's not blind homerism.
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That’s the funniest picture I’ve ever seen of Ryan. I might make it my profile pic. Well done Preston.
In Breesus' name we play
by Breesus Christ Superstar on Jul 11, 2011 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Rec'd for this line.
Freeman scares me, Ryan does not.
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I am calling you a homer though. On the positions you didn't mention.
You do know that Penn and Clabo got Pro bowl nods, and Bushrod and Stinchcomb sucked absolute ass last year, right?
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Agreed. The Saints should be dead last at tackle.
At FB, Graham is clearly better than Evans and the Bucs have two more players at the position. How on earth does that equate to worse?
Unimpressed with Snelling? You’ve got to be kidding me. The guy has stepped up every time he’s been called upon to carry the load.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
I don't know about FB, I'll have to concede to you. But I've never been all that impressed with Evans.
I know I hate Snelling, for a good reason. Seems like he always found a hole against us.
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Thank goodness we can be “dead last” at tackle and still win 13 games and a Super Bowl.
"It's more than a handful. It's a handsful."
To be fair,
Stinch wasn’t nearly as bad during our SB run. I’m not sure if he was playing above his level that year, or injuries really affected his play. Damn S&C coach!!!! Dalrymple!!!!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qais_eGMnWk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39GH-nzrY_I&feature=relatde
Stinchcomb is a slightly better tackle than Bushrod, imo. They’re both below average as starters, though. Bushrod was exploited quite a few times in 2009, as well. I think people tend to caught up in the shiny object that is the Lombardi Trophy and lose focus on some of our Achilles heels over the past couple of seasons, champions or not. DeMarcus Ware ate him for lunch. An injured Dwight Freeney got to Brees in the SB. Granted, it wasn’t quite as bad a showing as this season, but 20 sacks given up by a team that relies so heavily on their QB is nothing to pat yourself on the back about.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
- rushing offense that year, but that’s more about frequency of attempts than anything. 0.5 additional yards per carry isn’t spelling a 23 spot cushion in the team rankings.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
Stinchcomb is a slightly better tackle than Bushrod, imo. They’re both below average as starters, though. Bushrod was exploited quite a few times in 2009, as well
no argument there.
An injured Dwight Freeney got to Brees in the SB. Granted, it wasn’t quite as bad a showing as this season, but 20 sacks given up by a team that relies so heavily on their QB is nothing to pat yourself on the back about
fair points, but the top offense over the last 5 years including 3/5 individually is. I believe the Saints would be top 5 in least amount of sacks given up over the same span as well.
I’ve never been a big Stinchcomb or Bushrod supporter, but I’ve never been a big hater of each either. As for last year, Bushrod looked very good against Jared Allen. He looked good against many other top notch DE’s during the 2009 season. I don’t think he’s a world-beater, but I don’t think he deserves the criticism he gets from Saints fans. I don’t know when he and Stinch got hurt last year, but they both started the season off fine.
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by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Jul 11, 2011 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions
but the top offense over the last 5 years including 3/5 individually is. I believe the Saints would be top 5 in least amount of sacks given up over the same span as well.
That 5 year span is irrelevant, outside of Stinchcomb. Bushrod’s only been a starter the last two. As a duo, they’ve been part of an OL that’s given up 46 in the last 32 regular season games. I doubt that’s anywhere near the top of the league.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
Yes, I know. But didn’t Stincomb make it the year before? In 2010, Stinch and Bushrod were playing with injuries that were surgically repaired in the offseason. I think Stinch had a partially torn quad, and the Saints never disclosed Bushrod’s injury. Heck, they didn’t disclose Stinch’s— we found out from an interview of a teammate when Drew was putting together the initial practice sessions (Bushrod was rehabbing/working out in Atlanta).
I ranked the Saints higher because AS A GROUP, they are much better at tackle. I love Donald Penn. I hope the Saints make a run for Clabo— but they only occupy one position while the other is a big ?.
As for FB, on Tampa’s website, Graham isn’t listed as FB. I included him at the position because I know they used him there a few times. Has anyone ever heard of the full backs on Carolina or Tampa’s roster? While I don’t think Heath Evans is much better than the rest, I think is longevity speak to the fact that he does something right at a position some teams don’t even carry. I would love for the Saints to upgrade the position, but I can’t rank FB’s I’ve never heard of higher than Evans.
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by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Jul 11, 2011 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, but you know more about the Saints tackles since you follow them as a team.
I disagree with your ranking, but hey, it’s your ranking.
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Thanks. I wasn’t replying directly to you alone, but to the majority of posts wanting clarification as to “why I ranked _ over _ when __” or “what are you thinking”. I don’t mind showing what I think (obviously), and I don’t mind disagreement and constructive criticism. You sir have been constructive. You brought
You do know that Penn and Clabo got Pro bowl nods, and Bushrod and Stinchcomb sucked absolute ass last year, right?to the your argument— somthing tangible that can lead to further discussion and debate; not “your rankings stink, your an idiot and I’m so much more knowledgeable than you that if anything you say doesn’t mesh with what’s in my head you are so obviously wrong I don’t have to show why” rhetoric. Your response brought something to the table that benefited everyone, and I appreciate it.
If I had to put together a starting 5 from the linemen in the NFC South, I’d take Jordan Gross at LT, Carl Nicks at LG, Ryan Kalil at C, Jhari Evans at RG, and either Tyson Clabo or Donald Penn at RT.
If I had to choose a starting tackle tandem, Carolina would still be at 1, but I’d have a hard time splitting hairs after that.
If I had to choose a group of all tackles on a team, I’d rank them just they way I did above.
And of course, it is my opinion. I follow the Saints as close as I know how, and keep up with the rest of the NFL with any time left over. So I’m pretty sure if it is close, I’ll give the edge to the Saints, but I do make an attempt to show logic as to why.
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by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Jul 11, 2011 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions
and he doesn’t have poop stains for everyone to see.
but the clowns don’t have much behind him
Jesus1000, deliver me from this drivel.
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by coldpizza on Jul 11, 2011 11:33 AM CDT reply actions 2 recs
Buccaneers — Conner Barth — who wants a mustache ride?
What have you done with the real Preston? This is very raunchy territory, LOL.
Barth has been through 3 teams in 3 years. What’s up with that?
He also kicked the game winning field goal against the Saints in Dec of 2009- reason enough to dislike him.
though he also kicked a game winning field goal for a Bucs win over the BUNGLES in 2010 – reason enough to like him again.
by snowboard_kat on Jul 11, 2011 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions
Super Troopers is one of my all time favorite movies. Couldn’t resist. You were supposed to say “I do, I do!!”
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by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Jul 11, 2011 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Nice, verly nice. (in the tone of Borat)
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by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Jul 11, 2011 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions
It’s one of mine too!
And that’s one of my favorite lines… My friend (a girl) even bought me a fridge magnet that has that phrase on it.
I also love when one of them has to say "Meow "10 times during a traffic stop.
“Alright meow… Do you know how fast you were going?”
"It's more than a handful. It's a handsful."
by Dan Kelly on Jul 11, 2011 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Good call. The meow scene is a riot.
In Breesus' name we play
by Breesus Christ Superstar on Jul 11, 2011 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Stop this Supertrooper talk right meow.
And stop your shenanigans.
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Doing so, you may get a glimpse of the direction each team is headed or the positions each team will target when free agency begins.
How does one even begin to gauge this, when you’ve included free agents in the rankings?!?!
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After the dust settles and the regular season is about to kick-off, we’ll do this again to see how free agency, training camp and injuries might have changed the picture.
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by Dave Cariello on Jul 11, 2011 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions
All including them does is show shortcomings as of last season and possible plugs via the draft. It doesn’t begin to illustrate the newest shortcomings expired contracts have caused.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
And yes, I understand the gist of the sentence you quoted. Still, it doesn’t validate the sentence I quoted. You’re not getting a glimpse of jack based on these rankings. Bushrod and Strief aren’t currently on the roster. What does including them and/or ranking the Saints above two better tackle units tell me about the dire straits we’re in at the position? Zilch. Nada. Even if I bought into the ranking, the only conclusion I can possibly draw from this is “we’re not that bad off at OT” and that’s obviously not the truth.
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Fearlessly assuming the devil's advocate position
"we’re not that bad off at OT" and that’s obviously not the truth.
Where’s the fire? Bushrod and Strief aren’t going anywhere. Mickey will match any reasonable offer they might get. If there are no replacements available, he’ll pay a little more.
Bushrod and Strief aren’t going anywhere. Mickey will match any reasonable offer they might get.
You don’t know that, btw. Mickey might not want them back. He may think he can improve upon the position.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
Bushrod almost certainly is not leaving. Strief might be on the street.
Let’s see a show of hands: With all the 2010 Saints becoming free agents and Drew Brees’ new contract imminent, who thinks Mickey is going break the bank on a tackle and snub Bushrod?
Fujita was almost certainly not leaving last year, according to both Rotoworld and Jeff Duncan. And Mickey certainly wouldn’t have to “break the bank” to improve on Bushrod as a starter.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
Fujita was almost certainly not leaving last year, according to both Rotoworld and Jeff Duncan.
Easy on the hyperbole, I’m getting dizzy. I don’t dispute Duncan, but Rotoworld only referenced Don Banks at SI:
The Saints will likely try to retain impending unrestricted free agent LB Scott Fujita, according to Sports Illustrated’s Don Banks. Fujita will be 31 by next season but he’s the kind of glue guy that led the Saints to the title. The Saints will likely get younger at the position through the draft but we’d expect Fujita to remain the starter next season. He had 58 tackles in 11 regular season games and added 11 more in three playoff games.The Saints did try to retain him right up to the point where they heard how much Cleveland offered him. There was no prediction other than that he’s a starter, which he was.
Source: Sports Illustrated Feb 9, 11:29 AM
And Mickey certainly wouldn’t have to "break the bank" to improve on Bushrod
Mickey won’t go through the trouble of a trade. So which of these affordable free agents do you recommend as an upgrade? I’ll get the fax machine ready.
I would recommend anyone under 30 years old with at least 10 games starting experience, that isn’t named Alex Barron. Corey Hilliard’s from New Orleans, btw.
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I agree wholeheartedly. A few would bring more for more money. Others would bring more for less money. But none for the same money.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
So, you’re urging Mickey to spend more money to improve his left tackle position in 2011. I doubt that’s going to happen. Look how he manages his outside linebackers. He’s so tight even his expensive Bruno Maglis squeak.
I don’t rightly care whether he spends more or less. He’s not going to land a franchise LT in free agency regardless. I’m urging him to throw sh** at the wall and see if it sticks. It’s what he did when he traded Brown and started Bushrod in the first place. It didn’t stick then. Maybe it will this time. If not, I don’t think we’ll be much worse off than we are now. Hell, I’d even be ok with them trying Strief as the starter. To me, the odds of improving the position make it worth the gamble.
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Agreed.
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by Dave Cariello on Jul 12, 2011 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Or Charles Brown...
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by Dave Cariello on Jul 12, 2011 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Poor Charlie Brown...
coming off back surgery = not a hot look for him.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39GH-nzrY_I&feature=relatde
I would think Strief is the greater priority, considering his versatility. Add me to list … Strief gets re-signed by the Saints before Bushrod does. Still possible that neither happens.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
I think Bushrod is a bigger priority than Goodwin, yet due to the shortened off-season, I think Goodwin is almost a must-have. I would love to keep Strief because he’s our “swing” tackle, which is very valuable when deciding who to keep active on game-day rosters.
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by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Jul 11, 2011 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions
With you on this one
Think we should resign Strief and also have wondered if he would be a better option at LT. Believe he is versatile enough to give Bushrod some competition.
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by cajuncommando58 on Jul 13, 2011 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions
According to the official web-site, they still are. Every player I have listed is from each team’s official web-site. Until the league year begins, they are still property of each team. Many are tendered; whether the tender still holds when the new CBA is in place, who knows. Until free agency begins, they are still part of the team they are listed under. Mark Ingram and none of the rookies are under contract either. By your logic, they aren’t on our team.
You like to try and pick apart everything. That’s fine. Just bring something to the table. What would you rank and where? Or like Mr. Banks did above, point out facts that support an argument for different rankings.
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by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Jul 11, 2011 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions
I believe the ball is in your court, pizza.
In Breesus' name we play
by Breesus Christ Superstar on Jul 11, 2011 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Btw you guys better becareful...
You’ll make Preston “awaken”. Sorry, I’ve been watching too much Claymore.
2010 is cuzzin's breakout year...run with that chip bruh!
what's that line from Pulp Fiction?
Bring out the Ginch!
Ginch’s sleeping.
Guess you gonna have to wake him up.
Thumbs up, everybody...
For rock and roll!!!!
by Hans Petersen on Jul 11, 2011 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions
*gimp
In Breesus' name we play
by Breesus Christ Superstar on Jul 11, 2011 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions
thanks - my memory...child, please
you FIFM
Thumbs up, everybody...
For rock and roll!!!!
by Hans Petersen on Jul 11, 2011 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions
*audited
In Breesus' name we play
by Breesus Christ Superstar on Jul 11, 2011 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions
thanks you AIFM
Thumbs up, everybody...
For rock and roll!!!!
by Hans Petersen on Jul 11, 2011 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions
lol
In Breesus' name we play
by Breesus Christ Superstar on Jul 11, 2011 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions
The official websites are never updated until free agency begins. That’s any year, as many players wind up retained and they’d just be putting them right back on the same rosters otherwise. Once a player’s contract expires, he’s no longer part of the roster. Feel free to provide one cached screen shot of an official offseason NFL.com roster that consists of 30-40 players (i.e., updated to exclude free agents) and I’ll buy into your assertion that that’s something on which to base player ownership.
Mark Ingram and none of the rookies are under contract either. By your logic, they aren’t on our team.
That’s correct. I didn’t say they were.
point out facts that support an argument for different rankings
I Already did that.
At FB, Graham is clearly better than Evans and the Bucs have two more players at the position.
As for FB, on Tampa’s website, Graham isn’t listed as FB. I included him at the position because I know they used him there a few times.
A few times? He’s their starting fullback. Is that an official enough NFL document for you? I don’t give a rat’s rectum what the team site lists him as. He’s a fullback that is occasionally used as a running back. Jason Snelling (the back who doesn’t impress you) is also a FB, unless he happens to be spelling Turner, which has occurred so frequently because Norwood is constantly getting injured. LeRon McLain is a FB. Mike Tolbert is a FB. When in doubt, check the Gamebooks, not the often times ambiguous rosters. The position column is only wide enough for four or five characters. They’re not giving you a clear picture and your personnel knowledge seems to tail off dramatically outside of the Saints’. For example, Erik Lorig (who you have accurately listed as both a fullback and a tight end) also played defensive end. No mention of that on the official roster. Dave Thomas isn’t OFFICIALLY listed as a FB on the Saints roster, yet you’ve chosen to include him. Regardless, you included Graham, so his superiority over Evans should be taken into account. Hell, even if you have Evans slightly ahead, two FBs you “never heard of” are still better than a TE filling in, in terms of solidity at the position, and should have been enough to tip the scales.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
The official websites are never updated until free agency begins.
True, but THIS off-season is a tad different because aside from veterans with more than 6 years experience, there still exists questions as to who will become unrestricted and who will not.
A few times? He’s their starting fullback
they asked him to play fullback last year. Previoulsy, he was first and foremost their HB, and in many instances, their best option at HB. With Williams surely out the door, I question how much he’ll see full back this year.
Hell, even if you have Evans slightly ahead, two FBs you "never heard of" are still better than a TE filling in, in terms of solidity at the position, and should have been enough to tip the scales.
Two players who may rank 2/10 on a 1-10 scale aren’t better than 1 player who ranks 5/10 on the same scale.
and your personnel knowledge seems to tail off dramatically outside of the Saints’
last I checked, I’m not Peter King. I have a day job. I’m a Saints fan writing for free on a Saints blog. What do you expect? You pick apart every post as if I am claiming to be a guru who does this as his profession. I write my OPINIONS as a Saints fan. I do not claim to be a journalist or a reporter. You are not giving me any money for my opinion, and I don’t believe this blog cost anything to view. If you want error free balanced and unbiased professional reporter, you’re looking in the wrong place, though I’m not sure you’ll be successful finding that anywhere these days.
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by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Jul 11, 2011 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions
True, but THIS off-season is a tad different because aside from veterans with more than 6 years experience, there still exists questions as to who will become unrestricted and who will not.
A difference that holds no bearing as to whether they’re under contract or not under contract, hence on the roster or not on the roster at present.
they asked him to play fullback last year. Previoulsy, he was first and foremost their HB, and in many instances, their best option at HB. With Williams surely out the door, I question how much he’ll see full back this year.
Week 16 2009 Gamebook – still a FB. What am I missing, Preston?
Two players who may rank 2/10 on a 1-10 scale aren’t better than 1 player who ranks 5/10 on the same scale.
While that may be true, a.) Evans isn’t a 5/10, imo and b.) there are three FBs in Tampa (not two) and they sure as hell aren’t <Evans cumulatively.
If you want error free balanced and unbiased professional reporter, you’re looking in the wrong place, though I’m not sure you’ll be successful finding that anywhere these days.
While I don’t claim to be error free, I do feel as though my rankings below are considerably less biased than yours are. I’m not clear on why that seems to be a problem for certain regular contributors, whether I’m paying for the content or not. P.S. trust me, I wouldn’t pay for THIS content, even if it included a reacharound. But you’re right, you’re entitled to post whatever you want. Keep this up and you’ll be offered a gig as a Yahoo! blogger in short time. Ball Don’t Lie (for free) and neither will you.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
If we ever got an upgrade at LT, I’d be very intrested to see who would win the starting RT spot with a full off-season out of Bushrod and Stinchcomb. In a perfect world, we’d sign Clabo away from Atlanta and have Charles Brown dominate at RT.
Stop wearing a wishbone where your backbone ought to be. Would you be convicted in court of being a Christian? Happiness is shared, and comes from sharing.
by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Jul 11, 2011 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions
You don’t have to, but you know you will.
In Breesus' name we play
by Breesus Christ Superstar on Jul 11, 2011 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Not to nitpick, but seeing the word "Runningback" as one word really grates on me.
If you're not sure what to do with the ball, just pop it in the net and we'll discuss your options afterwards. - WS, OBE
by Joseph William Stern on Jul 11, 2011 3:18 PM CDT reply actions
no runningback in the superbowl for cold pizza :P
Free your mind
by theprogrammerman on Jul 11, 2011 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions
i notice stuff like this in everybody's post...
But who cares? Unless you revel in being persnickety.
2010 is cuzzin's breakout year...run with that chip bruh!
amen
In Breesus' name we play
by Breesus Christ Superstar on Jul 11, 2011 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions
shouldn't that be "everyONE's" post???
I’m just kidding. :-)
"It's more than a handful. It's a handsful."
Is Quarterback one word?
Because I’ve always believed it is, and writing running back right after always makes me want to put it together.
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Every source I could find listed Quarterback as one word but running back as two.
I think this is because running back is not technically a position. Halfback, fullback, quarterback, tailback, on the other hand are very specifically defined positions.
If you're not sure what to do with the ball, just pop it in the net and we'll discuss your options afterwards. - WS, OBE
by Joseph William Stern on Jul 11, 2011 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions
i.e. Running back is simply a vague description indicating a backfield player who runs with the ball.
If you're not sure what to do with the ball, just pop it in the net and we'll discuss your options afterwards. - WS, OBE
by Joseph William Stern on Jul 11, 2011 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions
So is it “defensive back” and “cornerback” and “nickelback”?
"It's more than a handful. It's a handsful."
Or hunchback
Fat, dumb, and happy. Hell, two out of three ain't bad!
I Want To Die In My Sleep Like My Grandpa – Not Screaming and Yelling Like His Passengers.
by Just 'Nother Day on Jul 11, 2011 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions
....
oh to have a neg rep button for this pic!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qais_eGMnWk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39GH-nzrY_I&feature=relatde
That's why...
I abbreviate as many positions as I can. Saves some of those pointless discussions with the Grammar Police Squad. RB, QB, LT, RT G, NT T etc…you get the Pic.
INGRAMANIA equals LOMBARDI 2012
by cajuncommando58 on Jul 13, 2011 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions
serious...
I’m educated in writing/grammar and etc., but couldn’t care less (haha) about mistakes on a blog so long as they aren’t along the lines of what I see on FB statuses. And don’t call them “police” Cajun, they’re NERDS!
2010 is cuzzin's breakout year...run with that chip bruh!
1 and 2 of the kicker rankings are backwards
Last December when I was with New Orleans, our fat punk kicker, Garrett Hartley, missed a game-winner and we lost for the second week in a row – that was one of the times you want to grab a guy and tell him to [bug ] off," Fujita said. "But Hartley was young, and I didn’t want to mess him up for good, so I just bit my lip and said, ‘Hey, man, don’t worry about it — it was a team loss,’ which of course was a total lie."
by Fat Punk Kicker on Jul 11, 2011 3:49 PM CDT reply actions
now that was shameless self promotion :P
Free your mind
by theprogrammerman on Jul 11, 2011 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions
If you are the real Garrett Hartley, your moniker and signature are an awesome expression of self-depreciating humor; which shows real character in my book— it’s funny as hell. And if you are the real Garrett Hartley, it’s totally cool an actual Saints player reads this stuff.
It might be a stupid question, but are you the real Garrett Hartley?
Growing up here in LA, I always heard the phrase “monche connais pas” . Not sure if I spelled it correctly, but it’s cajun french for “I don’t know”. When I’d ask anyone what it meant, they’d all say I don’t know and laugh at me. It was an inside joke amongst family and friends until finally someone told me it literally meant “I don’t know”. I hope no one pulls my leg with the question above.
Stop wearing a wishbone where your backbone ought to be. Would you be convicted in court of being a Christian? Happiness is shared, and comes from sharing.
by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Jul 11, 2011 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions
He asked you not to pull his leg.
Maybe MARY JANE will load up and pass the PEACE PIPE around the conference room and they’ll all get happy in a big hurry, which might just help speed up the process. - HansDat
Right.
That’s Kat’s job.
Fat, dumb, and happy. Hell, two out of three ain't bad!
I Want To Die In My Sleep Like My Grandpa – Not Screaming and Yelling Like His Passengers.
by Just 'Nother Day on Jul 12, 2011 1:39 AM CDT up reply actions
Hey ole top
how u doing
You think you know, and you don't know, and you never, ever, will.-Jim Mora Sr.
I understand ....nothing.-Michael Scott
The Future is Unwritten.-Joe Strummer
"I don't dance to DIdo dude"-Tommy Saxondale
Life's good!
Yesterday I proved to myself that one CAN cut one’s foot with a pressure washer!
(’Nother new avatar I see.)
Fat, dumb, and happy. Hell, two out of three ain't bad!
I Want To Die In My Sleep Like My Grandpa – Not Screaming and Yelling Like His Passengers.
by Just 'Nother Day on Jul 12, 2011 1:46 AM CDT up reply actions
Yep that High Pressure, peel your hide off
u were barefoot? careful, careful.
You think you know, and you don't know, and you never, ever, will.-Jim Mora Sr.
I understand ....nothing.-Michael Scott
The Future is Unwritten.-Joe Strummer
"I don't dance to DIdo dude"-Tommy Saxondale
Crocks. No socks.
Gonna’ leave a scar on my foot the size of Drew’s birthmark (X 3)!
Fat, dumb, and happy. Hell, two out of three ain't bad!
I Want To Die In My Sleep Like My Grandpa – Not Screaming and Yelling Like His Passengers.
by Just 'Nother Day on Jul 13, 2011 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Catch u tmrrw
my shift just ended
You think you know, and you don't know, and you never, ever, will.-Jim Mora Sr.
I understand ....nothing.-Michael Scott
The Future is Unwritten.-Joe Strummer
"I don't dance to DIdo dude"-Tommy Saxondale
Ha! JND, we may be father and son after all
I burned the beBreesus out of my foot using a hot water pressure sprayer at work when I was a teenager – spraying down a huge engine, and it slipped and sprayed my right foot – it cleaned all the oil/grease off the top of my shoe, and then when the hot water seeped through to my foot – YEE-OUCH!!!! I was in some major pain and had two big blisters on my foot for almost a week after…
Thumbs up, everybody...
For rock and roll!!!!
by Hans Petersen on Jul 12, 2011 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions
I was using cold water.
I can imagine how hot water would magnify the pain!!!
(BTW, you don’t have to call me JND. Pop will do.)
Fat, dumb, and happy. Hell, two out of three ain't bad!
I Want To Die In My Sleep Like My Grandpa – Not Screaming and Yelling Like His Passengers.
by Just 'Nother Day on Jul 13, 2011 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions
I am not
I just think it is a great screen name
But sometimes I pretend to be Hartley when I am in a goofy mood
Last December when I was with New Orleans, our fat punk kicker, Garrett Hartley, missed a game-winner and we lost for the second week in a row – that was one of the times you want to grab a guy and tell him to [bug ] off," Fujita said. "But Hartley was young, and I didn’t want to mess him up for good, so I just bit my lip and said, ‘Hey, man, don’t worry about it — it was a team loss,’ which of course was a total lie."
by Fat Punk Kicker on Jul 12, 2011 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions
“Chase Daniel — Superbowl MVP”
Never thought I’d see those words in the same sentence.
"It's more than a handful. It's a handsful."
unless it's this in a picture caption
AP – Chase Daniel, standing next to two-time Super Bowl MVP Drew Brees as Brees hoists the Lombardi trophy
Thumbs up, everybody...
For rock and roll!!!!
by Hans Petersen on Jul 12, 2011 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions
I eagerly await your post with that image/caption combo.
"It's more than a handful. It's a handsful."
At first Matty's skid marks were funny, but now it's just gross.
I can’t look at it anymore.
In Breesus' name we play
by Breesus Christ Superstar on Jul 11, 2011 9:34 PM CDT reply actions
I laugh hysterically everytime I see it, but I’ve always had a fully developed sick dark humor when it comes to the subject of farts and such. I’ve learned not to embarass my wife in public.
Stop wearing a wishbone where your backbone ought to be. Would you be convicted in court of being a Christian? Happiness is shared, and comes from sharing.
by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Jul 11, 2011 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Or is it Groce?
Forget Poopie Stain, if that’s blood, its a Bleeding Roid. And I can’t look anymore, either.
You think you know, and you don't know, and you never, ever, will.-Jim Mora Sr.
I understand ....nothing.-Michael Scott
The Future is Unwritten.-Joe Strummer
"I don't dance to DIdo dude"-Tommy Saxondale
It could be blood from the arm of a defender that was leaning against him following the sack (or a sack prior). It could also be a clay stain. He’s wearing a white jersey, so maybe Atlanta is the visiting team at an outdoor stadium. The field appears to be artificial turf … that doesn’t mean the sidelines are. It could also be a paint or dirt stain from sitting on the bench, when the defense was on the field. Preston may have Photoshopped it. I can think of many explanations. But you’re right, it’s burning my retinas.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
they were playing that game in the dome. It was against the rams last year. no dirt, no clay.
Stop wearing a wishbone where your backbone ought to be. Would you be convicted in court of being a Christian? Happiness is shared, and comes from sharing.
by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Jul 13, 2011 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Since you asked for my rankings, here they are:
QB – Saints, Falcons, Bucs, Panthers. Re: Ryan over Freeman, more passing yards, more frequent scoring drives, more wins. As much as I like Freeman, I don’t understand how this is even a debate. Seems like the “more with less” argument should require “more” to come into play. All I see is “less with less”.
RB – Panthers, Falcons, Saints, Bucs. That’s including rookies and based strictly on individual talent. Tampa led the division in rushing last year, so the entire lot is at least capable of making waves. I don’t think Carolina will however, due to their developing QB situation.
FB – Falcons, Bucs, Saints, Panthers. Evans is a liability. There is no one worth mentioning past Tampa Bay.
WR – Falcons, Saints, Bucs, Panthers. The Falcons have a more talented receiving corps top to bottom, they’re just not utilized as often. Why was Finneran omitted?
TE – Bucs, Falcons, Saints, Panthers. Gonzalez (there’s no S in his name) is still talented enough to buoy the Birds, though I expect Graham to be heavily involved. Justin Peele is one of the best blocking TEs in the league, btw.
OT – Panthers, Bucs, Falcons, Saints. The middle two are somewhat debatable.
OG – Saints, Bucs, Falcons, Panthers. We’re in agreement here.
C – Bucs, Panthers, Saints, Falcons. I agree that Kalil is better than Faine at this point, but the Bucs clealry have the better group of centers.
K – Falcons, Saints, Panthers, Bucs. I’d still take Kasay over Barth.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
Pretty good list.
I still agreed with Preston on Freeman though. I see potential in Ryan, I see MVP in Freeman. But otherwise yeah, these rankings are ones I agree with more.
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In terms of potential, I’d be more inclined to call it a toss up. Not currently, though. Same reason I don’t have Ingram and the Saints ahead of the Panthers at RB, though I don’t view Ryan as digressing. He’s just not as meteoric a riser as Freeman seems to be. I expect DeAngelo Williams to be a Dolphin within the first 48 hours of free agency, so that already slim edge should evaporate.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
Aside from OT, basically you have a swap (difference) in RB, FB, WR, TE, and C. That’s just a difference in opinion, and the differences are debateable. Everyone has their opinion. My problem isn’t that yours is different, but the fashion in which you attack mine— you make it almost a vandetta in the tone of “you are an idiot and this is complete garbage”— I can understand if I am ranking multiple positions that are an obvious 4th place as 1st place (or vice versa) but every difference in OPINION is swapping a 2 with a 3 or a 1 with a 2 (aside from T). This does not warrant the kind of criticism you give.
Stop wearing a wishbone where your backbone ought to be. Would you be convicted in court of being a Christian? Happiness is shared, and comes from sharing.
by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Jul 12, 2011 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions
you make it almost a vandetta
By “almost a vandetta”, do you mean a vendetta? Perhaps I lash out at you due to my Neopolitan complex … chocolate, vandetta and strawberry.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
and I just figured you were Chocolate Pecan Delight
Free your mind
by theprogrammerman on Jul 12, 2011 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions
isn't that what Baretta drove?
a Vandetta
or maybe Dantana drove it in VEga$
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by Hans Petersen on Jul 12, 2011 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Life of Brian, Holy Grail, and Meaning of Life
I’d also throw in A Fish Called Wanda, even though it’s not officially a MPFC film…
oh, wait. I think I’m in the wrong thread
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by Hans Petersen on Jul 12, 2011 9:39 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
he and I come from the same school of drive-by humor
and laughter can diffuse tension pretty well, sometimes
it gives me the jitters when folks get pretty serious about their arguments…
Thumbs up, everybody...
For rock and roll!!!!
by Hans Petersen on Jul 12, 2011 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions
Anyone have the chops to make a Talking Stain video out of that Matt Ryan pic?
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
Has anyone said this about the pic?
“It could be DOO DOO!”
10 points if you can name where this came from.
Tiger's blood!!
I'm confident in "Chappelle's Show"
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"I rejected those answers. Instead, I chose something different. I chose the impossible. I chose...Rapture!"
I have so many clips from that on my iphone…so funny.
by snowboard_kat on Jul 12, 2011 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions
My favorite is the R. Kelly spoof.
Canal Street Chronicles-A place of great Saints news and information. Oh and the stuff I write!
"I rejected those answers. Instead, I chose something different. I chose the impossible. I chose...Rapture!"
I love them all. Did anyone see him on Inside the Actor’s Studio? It was very interesting.
Maybe MARY JANE will load up and pass the PEACE PIPE around the conference room and they’ll all get happy in a big hurry, which might just help speed up the process. - HansDat
Yes and Smoking the Cigarette
very funny, very honest. You know you’ve made it, if make that show. Seen DeNiro on there and HE’S DeNIRO! and he’s a terrible interview, always was, great actor though.
You think you know, and you don't know, and you never, ever, will.-Jim Mora Sr.
I understand ....nothing.-Michael Scott
The Future is Unwritten.-Joe Strummer
"I don't dance to DIdo dude"-Tommy Saxondale
mine is the black blind guy who's a racist
and Rick James true hollywood story with Charlie Murphy
Thumbs up, everybody...
For rock and roll!!!!
by Hans Petersen on Jul 12, 2011 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Love Clayton Bigsby
Also P. Diddy in Making the Band, the Real World Lil John, Wayne Brady, when keeping it real goes wrong, etc
“Why don’t you purify yourself in the waters of Lake Minnetonka?”
Tiger's blood!!
Agree with all of this. Did we just start t T.V. thread?
Maybe MARY JANE will load up and pass the PEACE PIPE around the conference room and they’ll all get happy in a big hurry, which might just help speed up the process. - HansDat
PJG Jr will have to consider this thread hijacked!
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For rock and roll!!!!
by Hans Petersen on Jul 12, 2011 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions
I love the “everything is funnier in slow motion”— especially when he’s on the commode. It made me laugh until I cried. I love the wife swap one where the “white” guy sniffs the panties and bra— too funny. I had a conspiracy theory some one sent me as to why Dave quit the show, but can’t seemed to find it. Will post link if I do.
Stop wearing a wishbone where your backbone ought to be. Would you be convicted in court of being a Christian? Happiness is shared, and comes from sharing.
by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Jul 12, 2011 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions
that wife swap bit was hilarious
and then the woman didn’t want to switch back…
Thumbs up, everybody...
For rock and roll!!!!
by Hans Petersen on Jul 12, 2011 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions
I think I missed that one...
Sounds hilarious!!!
2010 is cuzzin's breakout year...run with that chip bruh!
can’t find it— the link emailed to me no longer works, but here’s an article about it:
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/111991/was_dave_chappelle_almost_whacked_by.html?cat=49
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by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Jul 12, 2011 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions
that Howard Dean byahhhhh!!! bit was pretty darn good, too
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For rock and roll!!!!
by Hans Petersen on Jul 12, 2011 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions
I love the black milk man. The white family’s last name is n*****. It’s hillarious in a way only he could pull off.
Maybe MARY JANE will load up and pass the PEACE PIPE around the conference room and they’ll all get happy in a big hurry, which might just help speed up the process. - HansDat
the white family bit was hilarious.
And i loved the Rick James stuff too.
"It's more than a handful. It's a handsful."
His standup is funny as hell too.
Maybe MARY JANE will load up and pass the PEACE PIPE around the conference room and they’ll all get happy in a big hurry, which might just help speed up the process. - HansDat
yeah you see when he was talking about Sesame Street?
Comedy!!
2010 is cuzzin's breakout year...run with that chip bruh!
I don’t think so. I must have missed it.
Maybe MARY JANE will load up and pass the PEACE PIPE around the conference room and they’ll all get happy in a big hurry, which might just help speed up the process. - HansDat
Black Bush and the Coalition of Many
Charlie Murphy and Ashie Larry, tears in my eyes from laughing.
You think you know, and you don't know, and you never, ever, will.-Jim Mora Sr.
I understand ....nothing.-Michael Scott
The Future is Unwritten.-Joe Strummer
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