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NFC South Positional Rankings: Part Two - Defense And Punter

Previoulsy, we discussed how the offensive positions and kicker stacked up in the NFC South. Today's installment will rank the defensive positions and punter position. In a few days, we'll cap it off with a discussion on which trends are prevalent in the division, as well as the weakness and strengths of each team -- specifically where each team should be looking to upgrade through free agency.

The rosters will be re-shaped over the next month as a result of free agency, training camp, age and injury.  We'll revisit the rankings during the last few weeks of the pre-season, with a final ranking to come just before the season opener.  For the purpose of the "pre-offseason activity" rankings, we are using last year's roster in addition to any draft picks or free agents added before the lock out. 

It must be noted that these rankings are by positional group. The depth behind the starters carries some weight.  However, if the starter at a position is an elite player, the cumulative rankings another team has at the position may not justify a higher overall ranking.  Team A might have the best starter and back-up combo, but the impact of the elite player with no back-up on Team B outweighs any contribution Team A's duo could give.  Some positions see more players in the game at once, like cornerback. The cumulative of these positions count more than that of a position like MLB. 

Every team in the NFC South has its defense based in the 4-3 scheme.  While some, like the Saints, employ the 3-4 from time to time (because they are more versatile and have the ability to do so), they are primarily built to play the 4-3. This makes it easier to compare. So continue reading to see how teams in the NFC South stack up against each other on defense.

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Defensive Tackle: 

1.Saints-- Sedrick Ellis, Shaun Rogers, Remi Ayodele, Anthony Hargrove, Tom Johnson, Swanson Miller -- Anyone who believes Shaun Rogers won't have an impact as a NT should take a close look at Minnesota's Pat Williams.  Rogers gives the Saints just what the doctor ordered at the position. Ayodele (who started by default) will spell Rogers while Anthony Hargrove will move inside during obvious passing situations.

2. Buccaneers-- Gerald McCoy, Brian Price, Frank Okam, Al Woods, Doug Worthington, Roy Miller, Alex Magee -- Tampa has taken a position of weakness and really bolstered it over the last year.  I'll take the potential, youth, and rotation they have in place.

3. Falcons-- Peria Jerry, Jonathan Babineaux, Thomas Johnson, Trey Lewis, Corey Peters, Vance Walker -- Jerry and Babineaux played okay together last year, but many occasions they had to move Jamaal Anderson in.  The Falcons were good against the rush last season, making teams really earn every yard.

4. Panthers-- Ed Johnson, Derek Landri, Nick Hayden, Andre Neblett, Terrell McClain, Corvey Irvin, Sione Fua, Louis Ellis, Tommie Duhart -- The Panthers got more than anyone realistically expected out of this position last year. 

 

Defensive End: 

1. Panthers-- Everette Brown, Charles Johnson, Greg Hardy, Eric Norwood, Taylor Hilee, Tyler Brayton -- Brown and Johnson played so well last year, I can't put another team above them.  Who thought Carolina would get solid play at DE without Peppers?

2. Saints -- Will Smith, Cameron Jordan, Alex Brown, Jeff Charleston, Anthony Hargrove, Junior Gallette, Greg Romeus, Jimmy Wilkerson, Mitch King -- The Saints, like Tampa, addressed their biggest need in the draft.  And like Tampa, questions remain as to how soon the rookie(s) will make an impact at the position.  I'll take the way this group will look at year's end over the steady duo in Carolina and the best DE in Atlanta. 

3. Falcons-- John Abraham, Jamaal Anderson, Kroy Biermann, Chauncey Davis, Cliff Matthews, Lawrence Sidburry, Emmanuel Stephens -- Abraham is an impact player, but age and injury have limited his playing time. On many occasions, they'll keep him off the field on running downs. At this point, Abraham is the best DE in the division, but not being on the field for 100% of the defensive snaps and disappointing play from Jamaal Anderson weigh too much to rank them any higher. At least Biermann is solid.

4. Buccaneers-- DaQuan Bowers, Adrian Clayborn, Tim Crowder, Michael Bennett, Brandon Gilbeaux, George Johnson, Erik Lorig, Kyle Moore, Stylez White, E.J. Wilson -- Tampa continued their youth movement on the defensive line with their top two draft choices this year. Will the impact be immediate with the transition the rookies have to make in a short amount of time? Probably not. However, this defensive line's potential scares me, and though the rookies won't be effective early, the guys they replace are still on the roster.

 

Linebackers:

1. Panthers -- Jon Beason, Dan Connor, James Anderson, Thomas Davis, Nic Harris, Jordan Senn, Sean Ware, Thomas Williams, Jason Williams, Lawrence Wilson -- This group is by far the best in the NFC South.  Watch out for rookie Lawrence Wilson; you may not hear his name on anything but special teams, but in a few years...

2. Falcons -- Sean Weatherspoon, Curtis Lofton, Mike Peterson, Kroy Biermann, Stephen Nicholas, Spencer Adkins, Akeem Dent, Robert James, Bear Woods -- How many of us were sick when Atlanta drafted Weatherspoon?  I'm sure the Saints front office was. I do wonder how much Mike Peterson has left.

3. Buccaneers -- Barrett Rudd, Mason Foster, Dekoda Watson, Geno Hayes, Cody Grimm, Adam Hayward, Tyrone McKenzie, Simoni Lawrence, Niko Koutouvides, J.D. Folsom, Quincy Black -- If I didn't know for certain that Tampa was going to let Barrett Rudd walk, I might consider ranking them a little higher.

4. Saints -- Jonathan Vilma, Martez Wilson, Jonathan Casillas, Scott Shanle, Marvin Mitchell, Stanley Arnoux, Jo-Lonn Dunbar, Danny Clark, Nate Bussey, Anthony Waters, Ezra Butler, Ramon Humber, Kawika Mitchell -- Hopefully the Saints will see realized potential from this group. 

 

Cornerbacks:

1. Saints-- Tracy Porter, Jabari Greer, Patrick Robinson, Johnny Patrick, Randall Gay, Leigh Torrence, Mark Parson -- The Saints have something most teams would kill for - four cover corners.  This team has a top five secondary in the NFL, and by the time this off-season is over, arguably the top secondary (Cincinatti will lose Joseph).

2. Falcons -- Dunta Robinson, Brent Grimes, Christopher Owens, Dominique Franks -- I can't believe Atlanta only has four CB's on their roster.  The duo of Robinson and Grimes make a good tandem but how well do the other guys cover in nickle and dime?  I'm not sure.  It's a good thing they've got five safeties and free agency.  I believe Atlanta will likely leap frog Tampa if/when Aqib Talib gets suspended and free agency is all said and done with.

3.Panthers -- Chris Gamble, Richard Marshall, Captain Munnerlyn, Brandon Hogan, Robert McClain, R.J. Stanford, C.J. Wilson -- Carolina has three solid corners but the depth behind that is iffy.  I hate putting Carolina last so much, but I'd rather Atlanta's top two over the Panthers top three.

4. Buccaneers --  Ronde Barber, Aqib Talib, E.J. Biggers, Anthony Gaitor, D.J. Johnson, Elbert Mack -- Until the terrorist gets taken out or Barber retires, I'll give Tampa the two spot.  When Talib went down with injury last year, Tampa didn't really suffer that much. I love the addition of Gaitor, I think he's a good value pick late in the draft.  Tampa really needs to add to this group in free agency.

 

Safeties:

1. Saints -- Malcom Jenkins, Darren Sharper, Roman Harper, Usama Young, Pierson Prioleau, Chris Reis, Matt Giordano -- The Saints have the most versatile group, more than a few can play cornerback in a pinch and actually came into the pros as CB.

2. Falcons-- Thomas DeCoud, William Moore, Rafael Bush, Rafael Priest, Shann Schillinger -- I was really jealous watching Atlanta grab DeCoud and Moore in back to back drafts. The Falcons have gotten extremely young at the position and should have two solid starters for years to come.

3. Buccaneers --  Tanard Jackson, Sean Jones, Cody Grimm, Dominique Harris, Corey Lynch, Ahmad Black, Larry Asante, Vince Anderson -- Sean Jones really digressed last year and who knows when Jackson will play again.  I do have to say I like Ahmad Black and think, once again, Tampa got good value late in the draft.  (I believe they had the best 2011 draft out of all 32 teams).  If Sean Jones regains his form and Tanard Jackson gets on the field, Tampa could easily jump Atlanta for the two spot and possibly best New Orleans for top honors.

4. Panthers -- Sherrod Martin, Charles Godfrey, Jordan Pugh, Marcus Hudson -- Unlike the CB position, this group truly ranks last no matter how you cut it.  We could go starters, just free safety or just strong safety and Carolina would still be last every time.  At least they've got good LB's and a decent defensive line.

 

Punters:

1. Saints -- Thomas Morstead -- He's just about a top five punter in the NFL.  He'll officially become one this year, I believe.  How many touchbacks will he get on kick-off?  I'm so happy the Saints have this guy; they won't have to worry about this position for a long time.

2. Panthers -- Jason Baker -- Baker had to punt almost 100 times last year and still managed a 43+ yard average.

3. Falcons -- Michael Koenen, Ken Parrish -- Koenen is solid.  While he has the lowest average, he's got the most punts downed inside the 20 in the NFC South.

4. Buccanneers -- Robert Malone -- While he's ranked last, give the rookie a break.  He had a solid year one and last doesn't always mean worst, it just means 4th in this case. He did a great job last year and I believe Tampa is happy with him. 

 

I hate to break it to you, but I'm a Saints fan.  A very big Saints fan.  So these rankings are through the view of my black and gold colored glasses. If you disagree with a position or two, convince me the error of my ways.  Give me compelling evidence that suggests otherwise to support your opinion in the section below.  I look forward to reading what you have to say. 

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i think you rate our linebackers too high. we have the fifth best linebacking group in the division at best.

by hrp on Jul 16, 2011 11:39 AM CDT reply actions  

Great article, even if you’re way too optimistic about DE situation. 4 games missing from Smith, then what do we have? Cam Jordan, arguably less promising than both of the Bucs new draftees. Alex Brown? competent journeyman. Charleston? High motor, loveable try-hard, but 3 sacks a year situationally is his high water mark. Galette? See Charleston but with no sacks. Romeus? I hope he’s a late round gem, but that’s not likely. Do I believe in my fan’s heart that each of our DEs will be the next Julius Peppers, Reggie White, or Michael Strahan? Yes. Do I logically think that’s going to happen. Oh heck no.

Also, I appreciate your hard work and the free entertainment, but I think the Aqib Talib “The Terrorist” reference perhaps wasn’t in an appropriate context to indicate that you weren’t just making fun of his name or background, but rather other people’s use of the nickname or his subsequent criminal activities.

by GnomeChumpsky on Jul 16, 2011 12:14 PM CDT reply actions   2 recs

I hate to break it to you, but I’m a Saints fan. A very big Saints fan. So these rankings are through the view of my black and gold colored glasses.

Translation: I know very little about the personnel in this division outside of the Saints. The Saints are slotted based on my general satisfaction with their personnel, and the fact that they’re the defending Super Bowl champions once removed. 1st = extremely satisfied. 2nd = very satisfied. 3rd = quite satisfied. 4th = satisfied, though perhaps a tad constipated. Once the important stuff is out of the way, the three remaining teams (if you can even call them teams) are slotted almost exclusively on name recognition, though I do offer some leeway for bias and prejudicial disdain (see Terrorist, the) . If you disagree with this methodology, convince me of the error in my ways. Give me compelling evidence that suggests otherwise and I’ll concede that it’s arguable, as I will forever remain a proselyte invertebrate by nature.

"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Jul 18, 2011 2:07 AM CDT reply actions  

Judge. Jury. Executioner.

Thought I recognized the technique.

Fat, dumb, and happy. Hell, two out of three ain't bad!

I Want To Die In My Sleep Like My Grandpa – Not Screaming and Yelling Like His Passengers.

by Just 'Nother Day on Jul 18, 2011 3:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

Reminds me of chocolate starfish and hotdog water.

Maybe MARY JANE will load up and pass the PEACE PIPE around the conference room and they’ll all get happy in a big hurry, which might just help speed up the process. - HansDat

by cscmember on Jul 18, 2011 7:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

??????

Better put that pipe away, son.

Fat, dumb, and happy. Hell, two out of three ain't bad!

I Want To Die In My Sleep Like My Grandpa – Not Screaming and Yelling Like His Passengers.

by Just 'Nother Day on Jul 18, 2011 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Awww, come on pa.

Maybe MARY JANE will load up and pass the PEACE PIPE around the conference room and they’ll all get happy in a big hurry, which might just help speed up the process. - HansDat

by cscmember on Jul 19, 2011 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

btw I was implying that the comment above was very assholish. If that’s even a word. It was also an album reference.

Maybe MARY JANE will load up and pass the PEACE PIPE around the conference room and they’ll all get happy in a big hurry, which might just help speed up the process. - HansDat

by cscmember on Jul 19, 2011 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

While some, like the Saints, employ the 3-4 from time to time (because they are more versatile and have the ability to do so), they are primarily built to play the 4-3.

All four play the 3-4 from time to time. You can stop feeling special now.

"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Jul 18, 2011 11:18 AM CDT reply actions  

To think all this time I was waiting for the #1 Saints Fan to chime in with his opinion. I feel special all the time.

Stop wearing a wishbone where your backbone ought to be. Would you be convicted in court of being a Christian? Happiness is shared, and comes from sharing.

by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Jul 18, 2011 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

I feel special all the time.

Corky Thatcher Quotes for $200.

"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Jul 18, 2011 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

1/2 retard is better than full on retard, and it will win you an oscar. BTW, you’ll soon need to change your avatar.

Stop wearing a wishbone where your backbone ought to be. Would you be convicted in court of being a Christian? Happiness is shared, and comes from sharing.

by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Jul 18, 2011 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tropic Thunder ? !!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgHITc1OL-c

If that’s a Tropic Thunder reference Preston, you officially rock ;)

by snowboard_kat on Jul 19, 2011 1:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

it is… and that is one hilarious movie!

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - M.H.

by Dan Kelly on Jul 19, 2011 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

BTW...

Thanks! I’ve been watching YouTube clips of that Kinetic Typography since I watched your link.

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - M.H.

by Dan Kelly on Jul 19, 2011 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

It was. Isn’t black robert downey jr more awesome than white RDJ? He rocks. Just watched kiss kiss bang bang again last night. Have yall seen “I hope they serve beer in hell”? It’s awesome in the same way Beer League and Hangover are.

Stop wearing a wishbone where your backbone ought to be. Would you be convicted in court of being a Christian? Happiness is shared, and comes from sharing.

by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Jul 19, 2011 11:12 AM CDT reply actions  

RDJ in general is awesome, but I’d have to agree with you on that :)

by snowboard_kat on Jul 19, 2011 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

My favorite RDJ is Tony Stark.. he’s just too F-ing cool, but the character in TT was great too.

Speaking of TT, how about Tom Cruise’s character? I thought he was awesome in that role.

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - M.H.

by Dan Kelly on Jul 19, 2011 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not a Tom Cruise fan, but I’ll give you that one.

by snowboard_kat on Jul 19, 2011 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

I could take him of leave him, but that role was just so different and over the top compared to any of his other roles.

The big surprise is part of the reason I love the character/his acting in TT.

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - M.H.

by Dan Kelly on Jul 20, 2011 8:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

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