NFL LOCKOUT UPDATE: Saints, NFL Fans Lash Out on Drew Brees
by Dave Cariello on Jul 19, 2011 7:01 PM CDT
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PrintBy now I'm sure you've read Greg Bedard's report earlier today that Drew Brees and Peyton Manning have requested to be exempt from the franchise tag for the rest of their careers, possibly holding up a settlement of the Brady v. NFL antitrust lawsuit and thus, a new collective bargaining agreement.
I've got to say, if this is true, it's disappointing to say the least. Such a selfish move flies directly in the face of all the rhetoric Brees and other player representatives have been spewing the last six months and just further proof that the owners aren't necessarily the only greedy bastards amid this whole flustercuck.
I will leave my own thoughts at that, however, and let other fans do the talking. Below are just a few tweets to Drew Brees from NFL fans I found on Twitter this evening.
UPDATE [ 07/19/11 7:08 PM CDT ]: Drew Brees has responded to fans via Twitter saying:
I hesitate to even dignify the false media reports with a response, but obviously they are leading people astray.
Never expected to be let down by (or frustrated with) @drewbrees. Stay gold, Drew! Black and gold, that is.
Please @drewbrees help me understand how wanting a fair deal for all the players but wanting a special deal for yourself goes together?
yo @drewbrees don't act like you're looking out for the best interests of the players when you're just looking out for yourself
Scott Shanle - Manning, Brees, Mankins, Jackson need to quit trying to cut their own deals...tell me this not really happening
If it's true that @drewbrees and others are about to use this new deal to get special exemptions that's a huge joke so much for bein united
I LOVE the Saints <3 & I think @drewbrees is So HOT! :)
um @drewbrees time to come clean. Are you are aren't you cutting your own deal to keep the Saints from franchising you? Whodats want to know
Fletcher Mackel - Talk to everyone @drewbrees ...franchise tag deal or no franchise tag deal??? to say we're a bit curious is obvious.
I just want football!! Is that to much to ask @drewbrees your killing me here.
On July 13th @drewbrees and Peyton Manning "Time to get this deal done." - Didn't realize they meant their own side deal #Greedy
@drewbrees get this thing over with and go back to playing football. Nobody sympathizes with any of you.
@drewbrees If its true you guys wanted special provisions its sad. If its not then the NFLPA needs to come out and set it straight
I really hope this story about @drewbrees demanding free agent status isn't true. If so, Lebron becomes the nice guy
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I LOVE the Saints <3 & I think @drewbrees is So HOT! :)
Where did that come from? The front page is rolling today.
Maybe MARY JANE will load up and pass the PEACE PIPE around the conference room and they’ll all get happy in a big hurry, which might just help speed up the process. - HansDat
now if it was Sean Payton is So HOT! you’d all know where that came from…
by snowboard_kat on Jul 20, 2011 7:04 AM CDT up reply actions
Why is he advocating one version of the deal for himself and not for the league at large?
Kant would be very upset. Brees and Manning apparently not big fans of the Categorical Imperative.
If you're not sure what to do with the ball, just pop it in the net and we'll discuss your options afterwards. - WS, OBE
by Joseph William Stern on Jul 19, 2011 7:09 PM CDT reply actions
I really hope this story about @drewbrees demanding free agent status isn’t true. If so, Lebron becomes the nice guy
Now that burns.
Maybe MARY JANE will load up and pass the PEACE PIPE around the conference room and they’ll all get happy in a big hurry, which might just help speed up the process. - HansDat
maybe he just wants to give Miami a second chance at him...
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by Hans Petersen on Jul 19, 2011 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions
he = brees, miami = dolphins
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by Hans Petersen on Jul 19, 2011 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions
“S … M … H …” -Mina Brees, via my Ouija board
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
by coldpizza on Jul 19, 2011 7:29 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Heaven looks like Austin.
"It’s the rich you can terrorize – the poor have nothing to lose." -Imelda Marcos
That’s a little ghoulish and uncalled for.
by GnomeChumpsky on Jul 19, 2011 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Seriously
Drew’s never been anything but a straight shooter. He took a prominent role doing uncompensated work to represent the union and he made himself a target for reprisal. If you noticed in the article, the same thing happened in 1993. The franchise tag is a bargaining tool in contract negotiations and it can be used to trap players into unfavorable situations. If you think the owners are above petty reprisals against the leaders of the NFLPA, then you’re very naive and you should ask Kevin Mawae if that happens.
The franchise tag is a bargaining tool in contract negotiations and it can be used to trap players into unfavorable situations.
Like getting paid $7 million instead of $10 million? Drew’s probably better off owning a t-shirt shop.
If you think the owners are above petty reprisals against the leaders of the NFLPA, then you’re very naive and you should ask Kevin Mawae if that happens.
Again I ask…do two wrongs make a right?
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It’s not a matter of two wrongs, it’s protecting him from future wrongs because he’s a target.
The owners started the whole lockout over getting an extra billion when they already have more money (even outside of their NFL interests) than any one and most small countries need. So Brees wanting an extra 3 million when he’s worth it is hardly unreasonable. If the NFL was a real competitive capitalist system, he’d be making much more than that. His lower pay subsidizes benefits for other players and the fans.
by GnomeChumpsky on Jul 19, 2011 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions
drewbrees Drew Brees
I want no special perks. My job is to get a fair deal for all players, and I am proud to represent them all – past, present and future
8:55 pm EST
and then there’s our boy Porter, at about the same time…
T_Porter22 Tracy Porter
I’m feeling like Olive Garden.
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by Hans Petersen on Jul 19, 2011 8:03 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
LOL @ Porter
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by Dave Cariello on Jul 19, 2011 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions
I want no special perks. My job is to get a fair deal for all players, and I am proud to represent them all – past, present and future
I don’t hear a denial. Did he have sex with that woman or not?
"It’s the rich you can terrorize – the poor have nothing to lose." -Imelda Marcos
he might think it's fair that he get a sweet deal with no franchise tag
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by Hans Petersen on Jul 19, 2011 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions
“It depends on what the meaning of the word is is”
—Bill Clinton
In Breesus' name we play
by Breesus Christ Superstar on Jul 19, 2011 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions
I hesitate to even dignify the false media reports with a response, but obviously they are leading people astray.
That’s not exactly a denial. He could have requested a waiver of the franchise tag along with Peyton, you know, as a throw in. but if not, then that’s cool. Which is cutting your own deal.
Which reminds me of another story: Co-worker cut a hell of a deal for herself with the boss (all based on work). Others complained that she got a bigger raise than she did and she told them: “Hey, don’t blame me because you don’t know how to negotiate” or some words to that effect. Of course she’s universally despised, but she does bank.
"It’s the rich you can terrorize – the poor have nothing to lose." -Imelda Marcos
more brees
5 minutes ago…
drewbrees Drew Brees
All media claims about me wanting a personal reward for this deal are false. I hope you all know me better than that
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All media claims about me wanting a personal reward for this deal are false.
I was looking for “I did not and will not ask for a franchise tag waiver for this year or any year”. That’s what I would say. Actually, I’d say “None-ya” and ask for the waiver. F all y’all. But I’m not Breesus1000, you see.
"It’s the rich you can terrorize – the poor have nothing to lose." -Imelda Marcos
'Nuff said?
Fat, dumb, and happy. Hell, two out of three ain't bad!
I Want To Die In My Sleep Like My Grandpa – Not Screaming and Yelling Like His Passengers.
by Just 'Nother Day on Jul 19, 2011 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions
stu hittin' it on all fronts of media exposure
stujo4 stujo 4
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@jeffduncantp @drewbrees I was hoping for “I did not and will not ask for a franchise tag waiver”. Anything else is not adequate.
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although with all those @s, I don't know who actually said what there...
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by Hans Petersen on Jul 19, 2011 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Duncan has never acknowledged my tweets. I wasn’t even sure it worked. Thanks for the confirmation, Hans.
"It’s the rich you can terrorize – the poor have nothing to lose." -Imelda Marcos
so...
what I cut and pasted here is what you tweeted to Jeff Duncan?
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by Hans Petersen on Jul 19, 2011 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Except for the extra @’s.
"It’s the rich you can terrorize – the poor have nothing to lose." -Imelda Marcos
How can that be public? I replied to a Duncan tweet by clicking on the reply button under it. I need Google+, this stuff sucks.
"It’s the rich you can terrorize – the poor have nothing to lose." -Imelda Marcos
it appeared on my twitter page and I posted it here (without your permission - just like all those other tweets I post in my Fleur De Linkses)
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by Hans Petersen on Jul 19, 2011 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions
I thought you were really asking how that tweet could be public...
so I explained how I did it…
but maybe I missed the point of your question
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by Hans Petersen on Jul 19, 2011 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Was that a real twit? If not you two are good.
Maybe MARY JANE will load up and pass the PEACE PIPE around the conference room and they’ll all get happy in a big hurry, which might just help speed up the process. - HansDat
oh, believe me, we're good...in fact, I'd say we're great, but just not for faking that tweet
that was a real tweet, alright
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by Hans Petersen on Jul 19, 2011 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions
man crush in jeopardy?
"But tonight the Superbowl belongs to the City of New Orleans" - Roger Goodell 2/7/2010
the part of me that wants Drew to be a nice guy wants an unconditional denial
but the other part of me says “he is who he is” and maybe he did want a sweet deal for himself…feeling like he earned it by putting his name on that suit…
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Members of the jury, we have reasonable doubt. Remember the admonition.
"It’s the rich you can terrorize – the poor have nothing to lose." -Imelda Marcos
that's what I'm saying
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by Hans Petersen on Jul 19, 2011 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions
I’m just going to call guilty. Some kind of fish is stinking in Denmark.
"It’s the rich you can terrorize – the poor have nothing to lose." -Imelda Marcos
and no matter what he says it won't be enough to remove the stink
guess what, guys? (and Kat and Kathy and Sarah T?)
We’re having so much fun now over this little tweet-controversy, that I can’t wait til we get a live season going and 3 days of FA to sign your current players before they’re open season…we’ll be lovin’ life then!!
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by Hans Petersen on Jul 19, 2011 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions
You missed quite a few ladies in that comment. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Maybe MARY JANE will load up and pass the PEACE PIPE around the conference room and they’ll all get happy in a big hurry, which might just help speed up the process. - HansDat
yeah, I shouldn't have even tried
woefully short
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by Hans Petersen on Jul 19, 2011 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions
You’ll get it right one day, pal. Don’t let it get you down.
Maybe MARY JANE will load up and pass the PEACE PIPE around the conference room and they’ll all get happy in a big hurry, which might just help speed up the process. - HansDat
just get back on the horse
and try, try again
“just what makes that little old ant think he can move that rubber tree plant?”
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by Hans Petersen on Jul 19, 2011 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions
This whole situation with the backlash is beyond me
this is not going the change the way I view Brees as a QB or a man. Not gonna bite the had that fed me a championship.
" I’ve never done drugs but I think watching Matty Ice stare blankly towards the field as Drew Brees kneels down while clock hits zero in a playoff game would be like doing cocaine off a strippers @$$#….yeah that good.
Yes my hatred for Atlanta is unhealthy/ possibly illegal" - Malbrough
by born in areacode 318 on Jul 19, 2011 8:23 PM CDT reply actions
*hand
" I’ve never done drugs but I think watching Matty Ice stare blankly towards the field as Drew Brees kneels down while clock hits zero in a playoff game would be like doing cocaine off a strippers @$$#….yeah that good.
Yes my hatred for Atlanta is unhealthy/ possibly illegal" - Malbrough
by born in areacode 318 on Jul 19, 2011 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions
How about a DUI? How would that affect your view? (I’ve got at least 7 more ready if you deny a view change. Your move.)
"It’s the rich you can terrorize – the poor have nothing to lose." -Imelda Marcos
How much would you let your star QB get away with? Just think Roethlisbereger and Steeler fans. Some here already have him on a stake and others want to believe this is not true. Just curious how people feel.
Maybe MARY JANE will load up and pass the PEACE PIPE around the conference room and they’ll all get happy in a big hurry, which might just help speed up the process. - HansDat
Drew fails a pee test for “growth hormones, guaranteed on Hong Kong television commercials to increase your height by 1” or more"?? Yes?
"It’s the rich you can terrorize – the poor have nothing to lose." -Imelda Marcos
I said this situation not the ones you're listing. This is a business so it doesn't affect me
rooting for him as my QB or appreciating what he does for the community. Comparing him asking not to have a franchise tag on him to raping someone, getting a DUI, or using roids is totally different.
" I’ve never done drugs but I think watching Matty Ice stare blankly towards the field as Drew Brees kneels down while clock hits zero in a playoff game would be like doing cocaine off a strippers @$$#….yeah that good.
Yes my hatred for Atlanta is unhealthy/ possibly illegal" - Malbrough
by born in areacode 318 on Jul 19, 2011 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Drew is arrested for disorderly conduct in an incident at The Columns while allegedly “seeing ghosts” and causing a disturbance.
"It’s the rich you can terrorize – the poor have nothing to lose." -Imelda Marcos
that was on the blooper reel of Treme Season II DVD
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by Hans Petersen on Jul 19, 2011 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions
we will find out in the end if his statements are true
but i have no reason to believe the media over drew… not that i think drew would ever get franchise tagged anyway. but at least he hasn’t raped anybody.
"As a Saint fan I watch ‘Gone with the Wind’ just to watch Atlanta burn" -Ralph Malbrough
by DrewBreesManCrush on Jul 19, 2011 8:26 PM CDT reply actions
How is
All media claims about me wanting a personal reward for this deal are false.
Not a denial? Methinks Duncan doesn’t want to cross the ESPN crowd. so he’s crawfishing.
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook
maybe Brees doesn't think it's a personal reward to get the franchise tag exemption
maybe he feels like he earned it by putting his name on the suit vs. the NFL and being a leading spokesperson during the lockout…
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by Hans Petersen on Jul 19, 2011 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes. Also known as waffling and weaseling. Drew did not have intimate relations with anything. That includes everything. But there’s no need to be specific.
"It’s the rich you can terrorize – the poor have nothing to lose." -Imelda Marcos
my point exactly
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by Hans Petersen on Jul 19, 2011 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Knowing the 93 precedent
That could very well be the case — but if so, that would would have been part of the deal from the beginning. Not something that would be holding up a deal NOW.
Which makes the leak suspect.
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook
by Billy Gomila on Jul 19, 2011 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions
According to what i heard today while
watching NFL Access earlier today, it was apart of the suit to begin with. Its just all of a sudden coming out now which is as u said suspect. But either way its NOT going to hold up the deal. And the overall deal its really whats important here. And lets face it everyone thats taking such personal offense to this calling Brees a liar and greedy and what not won’t be saying S*&@ about it if we win another SB.
" I’ve never done drugs but I think watching Matty Ice stare blankly towards the field as Drew Brees kneels down while clock hits zero in a playoff game would be like doing cocaine off a strippers @$$#….yeah that good.
Yes my hatred for Atlanta is unhealthy/ possibly illegal" - Malbrough
by born in areacode 318 on Jul 19, 2011 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions
So then
It’s not like Brees or Manning woke up yesterday morning and were like “you know, I think I should cut a side deal with all this” and that it’s holding things up. And therefore Florio & Co. are completely mis-characterizing the situation.
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook
by Billy Gomila on Jul 20, 2011 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions
Honestly
Sometimes the angel boy act annoys me. Maybe he really is the totally honest super sweet Heaven sent Christian boy chosen one leader but in reality its probably a bit of an act. Don’t get me wrong I like buying into it too but the only reason anyone is offended right now is because he is supposed to be perfect.
Tiger's blood!!
by SarahT on Jul 19, 2011 9:46 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
You talkin' about Stu, right?
I did notice the cross.
Fat, dumb, and happy. Hell, two out of three ain't bad!
I Want To Die In My Sleep Like My Grandpa – Not Screaming and Yelling Like His Passengers.
by Just 'Nother Day on Jul 19, 2011 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions
No one in particular.
Not sure how Stu feels about him.
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by SarahT on Jul 19, 2011 10:01 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I take this personally
When you talk about Drew Brees, I’m sorry but for some reason I take it a little personal. I usually read all the comments before I just post but in this instance I will NOT! I find it difficult to believe that Drew would in any way attempt to hold up a deal just to make sure that he isn’t franchised. Why would Drew ever want to leave the city of New Orleans? He could run for Governor and promise everyone he was going to raise taxes and cut the police force and he would still WIN the election. He is the most influential man in the state of Louisiana. If he were to endorse any candidate I’m sure we would all vote for that guy or gal. Why leave New Orleans and he could have anything he wants and more here. He is not going to be franchised. Benson is smart enough to know that his franchise is worth so much more because of Drew Brees. He knows he has a waiting list a mile long because of Drew Brees. Brees will get a long term deal around Peyton Manning’s numbers. I think Peyton might have a problem getting the deal he wants because he is 35 coming off a second neck surgery. I’m sure the Colts want to sign him to a 4 year deal at best. I think Drew is 31 if I’m not mistake. You could sign him to a 6 year deal no problem. Contract is not an issue for Drew Brees. I would part with the entire team to give Drew his worth because the truth is that the Saints will only go as far as Drew Brees takes them. That is an unquestioned statement and if you think otherwise you do not know football.
He could be found in bed with a dead girl AND a live boy and still get elected!
Anybody remember the reference?
In Breesus' name we play
by Breesus Christ Superstar on Jul 19, 2011 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions
I still have a bumper sticker from Edwards campaign against the Ku Klux Klan guy that says, “I’m for the Crook”.
Fast Eddie! You are correct, sir!
In Breesus' name we play
by Breesus Christ Superstar on Jul 19, 2011 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions
When you talk about Drew Brees, I’m sorry but for some reason I take it a little personal.
I’m ok with that. He’s not perfect. First of all, he’s from Texas. Ok I’m done.
"It’s the rich you can terrorize – the poor have nothing to lose." -Imelda Marcos
Texas???
What does him being from Texas have to do with anything? Every man has his faults, I agree. I in no way think he is perfect. I think he is one of the most outstanding citizens in the greater New Orleans area. He has shown the citizens of New Orleans nothing but love and we have returned that the same. Breesus? I think not I’m a spiritual man. An outstanding citizen and a hell of a philanthropist, Hell yes! It would take for him to say he wants out of New Orleans for me to believe he would want anything else but to retire a Saint. Benson should pay him as a top tier QB because he has EARNED that salary.
What does him being from Texas have to do with anything?
Ha ha!! Come on now, let’s be serious.
"It’s the rich you can terrorize – the poor have nothing to lose." -Imelda Marcos
iced tea just came out of my nose I laughed so hard at that.
by snowboard_kat on Jul 20, 2011 9:05 AM CDT up reply actions
GFY.
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harsh?
"If you ask ME, though, any game without push-ups, hits, burns or noogies is a sissy game" Calvin to Hobbes
Does that mean what I think it does?
Maybe MARY JANE will load up and pass the PEACE PIPE around the conference room and they’ll all get happy in a big hurry, which might just help speed up the process. - HansDat
im thinking it does mean something
about copulating with ones self. way outta line. but what do i know?
"If you ask ME, though, any game without push-ups, hits, burns or noogies is a sissy game" Calvin to Hobbes
That’s what I thought. I wouldn’t have expected that from Jon.
Maybe MARY JANE will load up and pass the PEACE PIPE around the conference room and they’ll all get happy in a big hurry, which might just help speed up the process. - HansDat
yea i know.
probably just having a bad day. lord knows ive come back on csc and went “i said what? GAAAAA” i tell ya, csc or my puter needs a breathalizer on it.
"If you ask ME, though, any game without push-ups, hits, burns or noogies is a sissy game" Calvin to Hobbes
Ben there before. I suggested the breathalizer to Dave the other day. He must have thought I was joking.
Maybe MARY JANE will load up and pass the PEACE PIPE around the conference room and they’ll all get happy in a big hurry, which might just help speed up the process. - HansDat
i brought it up last year.
good ol JND screamed at me “are you kidding? you will shut down CSC” or something to those words. lol
"If you ask ME, though, any game without push-ups, hits, burns or noogies is a sissy game" Calvin to Hobbes
He may have been right. My comments would drop by about 50 or so easy.
Maybe MARY JANE will load up and pass the PEACE PIPE around the conference room and they’ll all get happy in a big hurry, which might just help speed up the process. - HansDat
probably
at some point most of us go off on a tangent around here are regret things or cross the line. JB has been here a long time and always been cool. its no biggie to me.
"If you ask ME, though, any game without push-ups, hits, burns or noogies is a sissy game" Calvin to Hobbes
* and
"If you ask ME, though, any game without push-ups, hits, burns or noogies is a sissy game" Calvin to Hobbes
Not worried about Jon. He was tired of being attacked in the other thread and was fed up. All of us have to blow off some steam from time to time. He just picked the first bully that crossed his path.
Maybe MARY JANE will load up and pass the PEACE PIPE around the conference room and they’ll all get happy in a big hurry, which might just help speed up the process. - HansDat
oops wrong reply…
CSCM your reply was supposed to be:
you are wise beyond your years :)
by snowboard_kat on Jul 20, 2011 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions
You're both right.
Sorry to Stu. Been a rough week(s) and I’ve been lacking sleep this week especially. Saw the Texas hate and it was another straw on the camel’s back. It could have been anyone else and I would of had the same reaction. Still, I should be a bit more disciplined.
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OK what have you done with the real Jon Banks? Though this new ‘take no prisoners’ JB has a certain appeal :)
by snowboard_kat on Jul 20, 2011 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions
BA SAINT, I agree.
This is Drew we’re talking about. He will be a Saint for years to come. If he has done or said anything that people may disagree with, I’m sure he had a reason and has a reasonable explanation for it. I know for a fact that I want him to remain the Saints quarterback. I believe in him and I really don’t think he means harm or disrespect to anyone. He is a leader with respect for players, owners and other people like us. He voices out to try and make things right.
I find it difficult to believe that Drew would in any way attempt to hold up a deal just to make sure that he isn’t franchised. Why would Drew ever want to leave the city of New Orleans?
Huh? The two aren’t necessarily one in the same, Paco. The franchise tag only guarantees a player the average salary of the top 5 players at his position at the time of the designation. Another QB who isn’t tagged can sign the richest contract in NFL history the very next day and that isn’t taken into account. The tagee is now guaranteed the average of the 2nd-6th highest paid. And so on. While not likely, he could actually wind up being the 28th-32nd highest paid starter, if the 6th-32nd highest are inexplicably offered and signed to more after the designation. As a fan, it hard not to look at it as a very good situation to be in. As a top echelon player at your position, it’s rather easy to view it as an albatross. Your value — which is limited by only the salary cap on the open market — is suddenly pigeon holed in the here and now. Drew may be perfectly content in New Orleans. That doesn’t mean he doesn’t want to be able to strike his own deal based on demand. Last time I checked, cold hard cash is where it’s at, no matter where you lay your hat. [ /poetry minute]
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
If True . . .
. . . it’s ugly and damaging.
On the other hand, it’s BULLS***.
There’s no way that he and Manning could expect to get away with something like that. How could they POSSIBLY have sold that?
“Hooray, we have a new contract! And, oh, by the way, every player in the league will be subject to a potential franchise tag EXCEPT Peyton Manning and me.”
It doesn’t make sense.
Furthermore, there’s never been anything in Drew Brees’ character to suggest that he was ethically capable of that kind of money-grubbing.
I’d bet a big that it’s total bulls***. Or at the very least a gross distortion of some general NFLPA objection to the franchise tag policy.
And, oh, by the way, every player in the league will be subject to a potential franchise tag EXCEPT Peyton Manning and me.
From my understanding, they’re looking to abolish the franchise tag all together. Doing so would merely benefit them both. That’s the crux of the quandary. That’s not to say they don’t have their own best interests in mind. Even if they do, they’re NOT looking for preferential treatment. There are 30 other players this could potentially apply to each season. If every other i was dotted and every other t was crossed, I personally wouldn’t hold up a deal based on that one issue, especially this close to the season. What I would do is irrelevant, however. Even as a season ticket holder, it’s not my money we’re talking about.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
If it is in fact a general player opposition to the franchise tag policy, I don’t understand why this would even be an issue that particularly reflects on Brees personally. But the article linked above states quite specifically a claim that Brees and Manning were requesting personal exemptions for themselves.
Anyway, while the usual toads may find this a great opportunity to denigrate their own team’s QB, I think Brees, whose character has never been impeached as far as I know, deserves the benefit of the doubt.
Manning, too, for that matter.
Furthermore, there’s never been anything in Drew Brees’ character to suggest that he was ethically capable of that kind of money-grubbing.
Turning down an opportunity to prove himself in Miami, in favor of the same opportunity + a guaranteed contract in New Orleans wasn’t money-grubbing? Child, please. a.) you can’t change the spots on a leopard. b.) it’s perfectly reasonable to expect a leopard to have spots. Drew wants to get paid his perceived value based on what his peers are pulling in. He’s no different than any other player in the league looking to maximize his take. The irony being, if he was more open to the idea of a pension for retired players, he wouldn’t have to focus so much on storing nuts for the winter.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
a.) you can’t change the spots on a leopard.
Is that why Drew won’t get rid of that thing on his face?
Maybe MARY JANE will load up and pass the PEACE PIPE around the conference room and they’ll all get happy in a big hurry, which might just help speed up the process. - HansDat
Clearly we have a semantic disagreement over the term “money-grubbing.”
You don’t see a significant “ethical” difference between taking the best market-based offer available for one’s services and engaging as a representative in collective bargaining negotiations with a selfish, personal enrichment agenda?
Child, please.
A moneygrubber is defined as “one who is intent on or preoccupied with accumulating money”. That applies equally in either case. The ethical difference between the two scenarios is irrelevant to the term you chose to use.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
Yeah, well . . .
. . . the lack of proof of Drew Brees’ “preoccupation with accumulating money” notwithstanding, “money-grubbing” is also defined as,“seeking greedily to obtain money at every opportunity,” which is the more useful definition as it distinguishes between a person in an ordinary business posture and one who exhibits the ethically questionable quality of “greed.”
If you read me as saying,“There’s nothing in Brees’ history to suggest that he has the normal human desire to receive optimum compensation for his labor,” then I apologize profusely for the confusion.
I guess next time I’ll have to be really, really careful to iron out every ounce of potential ambiguity from my post to avoid pointless semantic gotchas.
And please don't forget . . .
. . . I indicated that I was referring to “that kind of money-grubbing” in plain reference to the accusation of Brees’ greedily seeking an unfair backroom deal. The ethical component was clear.
The irony being, if he was more open to the idea of a pension for retired players, he wouldn’t have to focus so much on storing nuts for the winter.
good point
by snowboard_kat on Jul 20, 2011 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions
The irony being, if he was more open to the idea of a pension for retired players, he wouldn’t have to focus so much on storing nuts for the winter.
The NFL doesn’t offer players pensions? That’s the first I’ve heard of that.
It would be a great if someone with knowledge of the subject wrote a post outlining exactly what retired players do and don’t get and exactly what they are and aren’t asking for.
There are times I read something coming from the retired players viewpoint and sympathize with their position. Other times, I read something coming from the other side and feel that sounds fair also. Bottom line, like a lot of fans, I don’t really know enough about it to have an educated opinion one way or the other….. and, I don’t have the time or inclination to research it on my own.
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