Email to NFLPA questions NFL procedure to end lockout
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Roger Goddell said in his press conference that THERE IS NO LINE IN THE SAND, drop dead date that the union has to reform.
Yes, they have to re-certify before the lockout is over, but he said there is NO REQUIRED DATE to do so.
"It ain't about how hard you hit, it is about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward, how much can you take and KEEP MOVING FORWARD. That's how winning is done!" - R.B.
That’s very reasonable. However, he did set the dates for free agency to start, etc etc, hence, pressure on players.
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Where is this pressure coming from?
And, is there no “pressure” on the owners?
EVERYONE wants to get paid.
There is “pressure” on everyone who wants to get paid to sign an agreement.
If the player don’t sign, they don’t get paid.
If the player don’t sign, the evil owner don’t get paid either.
There’s no extra pressure on the players than there is on the owners.
"It ain't about how hard you hit, it is about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward, how much can you take and KEEP MOVING FORWARD. That's how winning is done!" - R.B.
by Dan Kelly on Jul 21, 2011 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
DSmith has to improvise unschedule press conference with he medis.
Doesn’t that ring a bell?
Repeat? Under construction...
He didn’t SET anything….
He said “if the players vote yes and re-certify” this is when was can start training camp, etc.
"It ain't about how hard you hit, it is about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward, how much can you take and KEEP MOVING FORWARD. That's how winning is done!" - R.B.
He SET the dates specifically and his propaganda arm (NFL Network) showed the dates on the screen.
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To increase the pressure on the players, see? “SIGN IT! QUICK! Or the fans will hate YOU!”
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how much of the fan’s opinion really plays into consideration on the players decision?
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by cockynessIsWHODAT on Jul 21, 2011 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions
none
"Nobody in football should be called a genius. A genius is a guy like Norman Einstein." - Former NFL Quarterback Joe Theismann
by theprogrammerman on Jul 21, 2011 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions
exactly
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by cockynessIsWHODAT on Jul 21, 2011 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions
seems to be working...
the fan hatred and all. The interwebz is blowing up with people pissed at the players now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qais_eGMnWk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39GH-nzrY_I&feature=relatde
sub-plot of the owners? trying to leave the players in a bad light by tossing this to them, probably sprinkling in some things the players were unaware of & expect them to happily sign, so when the players refuse for whatever reason makes the players look bad.
poor taste.
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by cockynessIsWHODAT on Jul 21, 2011 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions
sooooo what, they should have sat with their thumbs up their asses until the players voted?
"Nobody in football should be called a genius. A genius is a guy like Norman Einstein." - Former NFL Quarterback Joe Theismann
by theprogrammerman on Jul 21, 2011 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions
no no that's not what i'm saying
like i said on another thread, it can be interpreted as either a trap or an olive branch. the devil is in the details
I CAST THEE OUT!!
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by cockynessIsWHODAT on Jul 21, 2011 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions
I like it.
In Breesus' name we play
by Breesus Christ Superstar on Jul 21, 2011 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions
He “set the date” IF THE CBA IS AGREED TO and union re-certified.
Someone asked him a pointed question… “When do they players have sign the agreement?”
He said, “THERE IS NO LINE IN THE SAND”.
He can’t be more plain than that… a pointed question with a specific answer.
"It ain't about how hard you hit, it is about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward, how much can you take and KEEP MOVING FORWARD. That's how winning is done!" - R.B.
I just Goodell’d you with my hugely loaded statement.
There’s no line in the sand. But they’ll need to sign it quick or else.
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“or else” what?
They’re going to take the offer off the table?
I thought the deal was slanted toward the owners? If it was, why would they take it off the table?
"It ain't about how hard you hit, it is about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward, how much can you take and KEEP MOVING FORWARD. That's how winning is done!" - R.B.
according to the shrimp on the NFLNetwork
post-owner press conference, there’s no opt-out
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by cockynessIsWHODAT on Jul 21, 2011 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions
I heard that too. Jason “Pick an eye and go with it” La Canfora. But that’s pretty nice, 10 years no opt out.
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by stujo4 on Jul 21, 2011 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
i won’t have to put up w/this shittake until i’m 36 in 2021. that’s nice
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by cockynessIsWHODAT on Jul 21, 2011 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Ha! Pick an eye and go with it. You’re on a roll.
In Breesus' name we play
by Breesus Christ Superstar on Jul 21, 2011 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Or else… hell, they don’t even have time to think about what else. SIGN IT!!
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I agree with Stu
Typical owners move here. Last I heard they haven’t sent the damn agreement to the players yet. This is total BS!
"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!
by David "Satch" Kelly on Jul 21, 2011 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions
But… I thought the media was bashing the players only.
Oh yeah, they are equal opportunity a-holes.
Many are saying the haven’t sent it.
Others are saying they do have it.
"It ain't about how hard you hit, it is about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward, how much can you take and KEEP MOVING FORWARD. That's how winning is done!" - R.B.
holidays must be interesting at the Kelly household.
"Nobody in football should be called a genius. A genius is a guy like Norman Einstein." - Former NFL Quarterback Joe Theismann
by theprogrammerman on Jul 21, 2011 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions
He's disowned.
Just kidding.
To Dan: Who’s saying they do have it? NFL Network? The network owned and operated by the owners? I’ve just been watching ESPN. I keep hearing they don’t have it yet.
"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!
by David "Satch" Kelly on Jul 21, 2011 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Heath Evans says there are things in the agreement that the players don’t like.
ie. They’ve seen it, read it, and don’t like part of it.
But, yes, the media is still bashing the OWNERS by saying that they haven’t sent the proposal yet.
"It ain't about how hard you hit, it is about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward, how much can you take and KEEP MOVING FORWARD. That's how winning is done!" - R.B.
My understanding
There’s a summary that the players and Chris Mortensen have seen and there’s the full document with all of the details. The full document hasn’t been sent.
"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!
by David "Satch" Kelly on Jul 21, 2011 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions
lol…
We’re not debating.
I’m actually replying to all the people who think the media is a one sided (owner sided) a-hole.
They don’t care who they crap on, as long as it gets them ratings. They really, sincerely, honestly don’t care.
"It ain't about how hard you hit, it is about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward, how much can you take and KEEP MOVING FORWARD. That's how winning is done!" - R.B.
by Dan Kelly on Jul 21, 2011 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
have to agree with you on this one, Dan
"Nobody in football should be called a genius. A genius is a guy like Norman Einstein." - Former NFL Quarterback Joe Theismann
by theprogrammerman on Jul 21, 2011 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions
I’m actually replying to all the people who think the media is a one sided (owner sided) a-hole.
Is the NFL Network “media”?
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yes. why wouldn’t they be?
do you think they are an exception that really is one sided?
"It ain't about how hard you hit, it is about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward, how much can you take and KEEP MOVING FORWARD. That's how winning is done!" - R.B.
yes. why wouldn’t they be?
Oh I don’t know. Maybe because they are owned completely and 100% by the NFL. Hard to criticize Goodell when he signs your paycheck. Hard to criticize Jerry Richardson when he owns a part of you.
Ever see that movie Good Night and Good Luck? That used to be real life. Before news had to be profitable and things got… messy.
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Who thinks the players are going to read the contract anyway?
In Breesus' name we play
by Breesus Christ Superstar on Jul 21, 2011 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Who thinks 99% of the players would understand the contract anyway?
Similar yet different.
Fat, dumb, and happy. Hell, two out of three ain't bad!
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by Just 'Nother Day on Jul 21, 2011 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions
you said it better
In Breesus' name we play
by Breesus Christ Superstar on Jul 21, 2011 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions
you said itbettergooder
FIFY :-)
Fat, dumb, and happy. Hell, two out of three ain't bad!
I Want To Die In My Sleep Like My Grandpa – Not Screaming and Yelling Like His Passengers.
by Just 'Nother Day on Jul 22, 2011 12:14 AM CDT up reply actions
How considerate of you to speak Alabamian to me.
In Breesus' name we play
by Breesus Christ Superstar on Jul 22, 2011 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions
"Someone asked him a pointed question… "When do they players have sign the agreement?"
“Right before the fans start shooting.”
Fat, dumb, and happy. Hell, two out of three ain't bad!
I Want To Die In My Sleep Like My Grandpa – Not Screaming and Yelling Like His Passengers.
by Just 'Nother Day on Jul 21, 2011 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Based on current news events, one thing is for certain....
NFL owners are the only group of billionaire businessmen in the country who want their employees to reform a union.
You tell me, you are about to agree to split 9 billion dollars with a group of employees, and leave them in a position that if one of them is pissed about it, they can sue you for anti-trust reasons? I would demand a union too.
"Nobody in football should be called a genius. A genius is a guy like Norman Einstein." - Former NFL Quarterback Joe Theismann
by theprogrammerman on Jul 21, 2011 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions
That’s what I was thinking…. why the hell would they want that?
Because it’s easier to negotiate with one group than 1900?
"It ain't about how hard you hit, it is about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward, how much can you take and KEEP MOVING FORWARD. That's how winning is done!" - R.B.
No union puts them at high risk for anti-trust litigation. And the LAST thing rich white men want is the gummint getting involved in their bidness.
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or they just don’t want to give them 4.5 billion dollars AND get sued…the evil of it all.
"Nobody in football should be called a genius. A genius is a guy like Norman Einstein." - Former NFL Quarterback Joe Theismann
by theprogrammerman on Jul 21, 2011 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Very sneaky of the owners
As you know the Owners have ratified their proposal to settle our differences," the e-mail states. "It is my understanding they are forwarding it to us. As you may have heard, they apparently approved a supplemental revenue sharing proposal. Obviously, we have not been a part of those discussions. As you know from yesterday, issues that need to be collectively bargained remain open other issues such as workers compensation, economic issues and end of deal terms remain unresolved. There is no agreement between the NFL and the Players at this time. I look forward to our call tonight."
email from De Smith to players.
Looks like the owners slipped in some extra stuff, and left their meetings.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qais_eGMnWk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39GH-nzrY_I&feature=relatde
Chris Warcraft
The Owners are douchebags. #attentionwhore
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Fletcher Mackel
Do you think the players should vote yes on this deal? Tom Benson “I don’t see any reason why they shouldn’t, they’re getting a grt deal.”
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Don’t believe everything that’s put out in the media people. They’re controlled by the owners. Its a tactic for … http://tmi.me/dkHgD
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"I rejected those answers. Instead, I chose something different. I chose the impossible. I chose...Rapture!"
yes, everything the media says bad about owners is God’s honest truth, and everything bad about the players is them being controlled by the owners. How silly of me, I forgot.
"Nobody in football should be called a genius. A genius is a guy like Norman Einstein." - Former NFL Quarterback Joe Theismann
by theprogrammerman on Jul 21, 2011 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions
you remind me of…oh wait, you are stujo, the noted player apologist. I have stated many times, they are both scumbags. I just react against your blind loyalty
"Nobody in football should be called a genius. A genius is a guy like Norman Einstein." - Former NFL Quarterback Joe Theismann
by theprogrammerman on Jul 21, 2011 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
It was a compliment, Mr. Prickly. You know I love and miss FriarBob. He argued with facts and logic, unlike many premenstrual males around here.
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mea culpa, stu. I miss him as well. Crappy work week. I can’t say, other than the evil owner thing that I don’t enjoy reading your stuff. I personally think “The List” is brilliant
"Nobody in football should be called a genius. A genius is a guy like Norman Einstein." - Former NFL Quarterback Joe Theismann
by theprogrammerman on Jul 21, 2011 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Thank you. The last guy who complimented me went 6 days before attacking me. See if you can do better.
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Checking Calendar
I am not making any promises. I’ll be sure to do it in the media though :P
"Nobody in football should be called a genius. A genius is a guy like Norman Einstein." - Former NFL Quarterback Joe Theismann
by theprogrammerman on Jul 21, 2011 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions
LOL!
Here’s my tweet:
Dan Kelly
Don’t believe everything that’s put out in the media people. They are a bunch of scumbag liars who don’t give a s*** about the owners or the players.
"It ain't about how hard you hit, it is about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward, how much can you take and KEEP MOVING FORWARD. That's how winning is done!" - R.B.
by Dan Kelly on Jul 21, 2011 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
you get a rec on that one, buddy.
"Nobody in football should be called a genius. A genius is a guy like Norman Einstein." - Former NFL Quarterback Joe Theismann
by theprogrammerman on Jul 21, 2011 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions
They'll go with whom is helping them sell there stories.
Right now, it’s the owners.
Repeat? Under construction...
RIGHT NOW…
Chris Mortonson is saying that there are a bunch of things in the agreement (because h got a copy) that is great for the players.
"It ain't about how hard you hit, it is about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward, how much can you take and KEEP MOVING FORWARD. That's how winning is done!" - R.B.
I want to hear what the players don't like,
before I pass judgement.
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"I rejected those answers. Instead, I chose something different. I chose the impossible. I chose...Rapture!"
that’s what i heard/read someplace earlier today or yesterday. (gotta get my mind straight)
this supposed proposal was a good thing for the players. what changed?
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by cockynessIsWHODAT on Jul 21, 2011 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions
This.
If the players had done this, the media would be so pro-player right now it’s not even funny.
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"I rejected those answers. Instead, I chose something different. I chose the impossible. I chose...Rapture!"
And, now they are bashing the owners.
The media is an equal opportunity a$$hole!
"It ain't about how hard you hit, it is about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward, how much can you take and KEEP MOVING FORWARD. That's how winning is done!" - R.B.
Turn on ESPN.
"It ain't about how hard you hit, it is about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward, how much can you take and KEEP MOVING FORWARD. That's how winning is done!" - R.B.
I haven’t seen it in writing yet.
Herm is saying, “let’s not jump on the players. You can’t vote on this tonight. You’;ve got time. Take a deep breath and read over that document.”
"It ain't about how hard you hit, it is about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward, how much can you take and KEEP MOVING FORWARD. That's how winning is done!" - R.B.
That’s some bad juju right there. I wouldn’t trust Benson if he paid me too.
Maybe MARY JANE will load up and pass the PEACE PIPE around the conference room and they’ll all get happy in a big hurry, which might just help speed up the process. - HansDat
yeah well, I am not exactly lining up to buy a used car from DeMaurice Smith
"Nobody in football should be called a genius. A genius is a guy like Norman Einstein." - Former NFL Quarterback Joe Theismann
by theprogrammerman on Jul 21, 2011 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions
You shouldn't.
Go with Tom, he’ll give you a 10 years warranty!
Repeat? Under construction...
by FrenchFreak on Jul 21, 2011 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Correction! Tom will sell you a ten year warranty. I dare you to take him up on it.
Maybe MARY JANE will load up and pass the PEACE PIPE around the conference room and they’ll all get happy in a big hurry, which might just help speed up the process. - HansDat
rec!!
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by cockynessIsWHODAT on Jul 21, 2011 8:04 PM CDT reply actions
fial
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by cockynessIsWHODAT on Jul 21, 2011 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions
fml *fail fail
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by cockynessIsWHODAT on Jul 21, 2011 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Schefter just read an email that says the players may sue for coercion.
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"I rejected those answers. Instead, I chose something different. I chose the impossible. I chose...Rapture!"
What a nice single word to describe what Frenchie has been trying to get across here tonight.,
from Anglo-French *cohercer Latin coercēre, from co- + arcēre to shut up, enclose
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you’re right, the owners shouldn’t have done anything at all. They should have waited on the players to get their side together. No reason for them to, I don’t know, do their part on this.
"Nobody in football should be called a genius. A genius is a guy like Norman Einstein." - Former NFL Quarterback Joe Theismann
by theprogrammerman on Jul 21, 2011 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions
that was not an attack, that was disagreement with your statement, using sarcasm as emphasis.
"Nobody in football should be called a genius. A genius is a guy like Norman Einstein." - Former NFL Quarterback Joe Theismann
by theprogrammerman on Jul 21, 2011 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Heath Evans on ESPN
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by cockynessIsWHODAT on Jul 21, 2011 8:16 PM CDT reply actions
Heath Evans on ESPN
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great minds JB lol
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by cockynessIsWHODAT on Jul 21, 2011 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Its not that the Players aren’t going to accept it yet, they’re just wanting to sift thru it all before recertifying & signing on the dotted line, right? so until its signed & done, no movement?
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by cockynessIsWHODAT on Jul 21, 2011 8:23 PM CDT reply actions
Next time this whole lockout deal happens...
the fans should have some reps in the room to tell us what is going on. LOL. Media don’t know jack and most of the players dont even know whats going on. and the owners double talk. Its just frustration all around.
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by born in areacode 318 on Jul 21, 2011 8:31 PM CDT reply actions
all this he-said, he-said BS makes my head hurt
time for another Abita Amber
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by cockynessIsWHODAT on Jul 21, 2011 8:37 PM CDT reply actions
Patience, everyone
The players would be stupid to vote on this tonight since they reportedly still haven’t received a deal to review. Pretty underhanded, strong-arming BS by the owners, IMHO. The players can still take a few more days at least to vote and still save all preseason games. No need to get this done tonight. Whatever they vote on they’re stuck with for the next ten years. Better get it right now.
"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!
by David "Satch" Kelly on Jul 21, 2011 8:43 PM CDT reply actions
“The players would be stupid to vote on this tonight "
Agreed!
“since they reportedly still haven’t received a deal to review. "
Seriously doubt it!
“Pretty underhanded, strong-arming BS by the owners, IMHO.”
Iff it’s true, you’re right. But I doubt it’s true.
"It ain't about how hard you hit, it is about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward, how much can you take and KEEP MOVING FORWARD. That's how winning is done!" - R.B.
Can you explain what is underhanded about this to me? The owners voted, they announced the result. Give me what you would expect them to do.
"Nobody in football should be called a genius. A genius is a guy like Norman Einstein." - Former NFL Quarterback Joe Theismann
by theprogrammerman on Jul 21, 2011 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions
He believes the report that the owners have not sent the proposal to the players.
So, send the proposal to the players would be the first step.
"It ain't about how hard you hit, it is about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward, how much can you take and KEEP MOVING FORWARD. That's how winning is done!" - R.B.
right
because again, everything the media reports from the players is true, and everything it reports from the owners is a lie…I forgot. I need to write that on the wall or something.
"Nobody in football should be called a genius. A genius is a guy like Norman Einstein." - Former NFL Quarterback Joe Theismann
by theprogrammerman on Jul 21, 2011 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions
did you see my tweet to Lance Moore?
"It ain't about how hard you hit, it is about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward, how much can you take and KEEP MOVING FORWARD. That's how winning is done!" - R.B.
Seriously, who's saying (other than the owners who are very difficult to believe at this point) the players have received the deal?
I guess I don’t care enough about this to consult numerous sources. I’m just flipping back and forth to ESPN from non-football programming. I’m just waiting for Conan to come on.
"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!
by David "Satch" Kelly on Jul 21, 2011 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions
perhaps the players saying there are things in the deal they don’t like?
"Nobody in football should be called a genius. A genius is a guy like Norman Einstein." - Former NFL Quarterback Joe Theismann
by theprogrammerman on Jul 21, 2011 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Heath Evans was on ESPN and said that there were things in this proposal that the players still don’t agree with.
They are outside the NFLPA offices now… reporting.
"It ain't about how hard you hit, it is about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward, how much can you take and KEEP MOVING FORWARD. That's how winning is done!" - R.B.
I just asked Heath on twitter.
Though he hasn’t tweeted anything in almost an hour.
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"I rejected those answers. Instead, I chose something different. I chose the impossible. I chose...Rapture!"
There's a difference between a summary and the fully detailed deal.
Would you vote on something this big based just on a summary? I sure as hell wouldn’t. They can’t and shouldn’t vote until they get the fully detailed document. The devil is in the details.
I’m outta here. Nothing is getting done tonight.
"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!
by David "Satch" Kelly on Jul 21, 2011 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions
I wouldn’t either.
I agree with you 100%…. IFF it’s true, that the players don’t have the full agreement, they SHOULD NOT vote on it.
But, I think they have the full document now, and have had it for a while.
"It ain't about how hard you hit, it is about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward, how much can you take and KEEP MOVING FORWARD. That's how winning is done!" - R.B.
If they didn’t have the proposal by now (2 hours after the start of their meeting), they would have walked outside to the vultures reporters waiting to talk to them and tell them that they don’t have it yet.
"It ain't about how hard you hit, it is about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward, how much can you take and KEEP MOVING FORWARD. That's how winning is done!" - R.B.
Thats what I'm saying...from all indication this week
thats how it was going to go. The owners were going to vote then the players to ratify the deal. The PLAYERS are the ones who refused to vote yesterday, they didn’t, they voted to have D. Smith and crew come to an agreement then vote on a conference call today. Now they’re saying they don’t have the whole deal well whose fault is that you could have said yesterday hey, can we get a draft of the thing to go over tonight then vote on Thursday, but you left your negotiating team there to do it instead and now you wanna get mad because you feel like you’re getting pushed when YOU were the ones to hold up the process by not even trying to see the details yesterday. Its just frustrating. There’s obviously a disconnect and maybe it would have been a better idea for both sides to be in the same city to make it easier to communicate.
" I’ve never done drugs but I think watching Matty Ice stare blankly towards the field as Drew Brees kneels down while clock hits zero in a playoff game would be like doing cocaine off a strippers @$$#….yeah that good.
Yes my hatred for Atlanta is unhealthy/ possibly illegal" - Malbrough
by born in areacode 318 on Jul 21, 2011 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions
They were saying yesterday that they didn't have the deal.
That’s why they postponed the vote.
"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!
by David "Satch" Kelly on Jul 21, 2011 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions
citation please
"Nobody in football should be called a genius. A genius is a guy like Norman Einstein." - Former NFL Quarterback Joe Theismann
by theprogrammerman on Jul 21, 2011 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Thats what I'm saying obviously the owners had some form of draft of a deal and were
ready to vote today, they wanted the players to vote first but it seemed like the player reps just didn’t want to go through the tediousness of reading it line by line so they decided to let the negotiation team do it for them and get back to them today. So to say that they didn’t have any type of a deal in front of them YESTERDAY is weird. Because they WERE SUPPOSED TO VOTE YESTERDAY but decided not to. Thats not the owners fault. I find it hard to believe after all that had went on that they would put a deal in front of them that the negotiating team DID NOT agree on at least with a hand shake.
" I’ve never done drugs but I think watching Matty Ice stare blankly towards the field as Drew Brees kneels down while clock hits zero in a playoff game would be like doing cocaine off a strippers @$$#….yeah that good.
Yes my hatred for Atlanta is unhealthy/ possibly illegal" - Malbrough
by born in areacode 318 on Jul 21, 2011 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions
I do want to know how the players were bashing the deal an hour ago,
but now say they don’t have a deal in hand.
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by Jon Banks on Jul 21, 2011 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
+1
"It ain't about how hard you hit, it is about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward, how much can you take and KEEP MOVING FORWARD. That's how winning is done!" - R.B.
Jon Banks
@scottshanle Heath said there r stuff in there you guys don’t like. But you guys haven’t seen a deal yet. Which is it? #jw
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@foreclosedbanks u need to ask heath in all honesty. He been more involved directly. I just trust what he says
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Is that your tweet name? I like it if it is.
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It is indeed.
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touche
they went from it being a great deal for the players, to not knowing what all it entailed?
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by cockynessIsWHODAT on Jul 21, 2011 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions
and the media had a copy of it before the players? somehow I suspect the mediator would frown on that, thus I doubt it happened.
"Nobody in football should be called a genius. A genius is a guy like Norman Einstein." - Former NFL Quarterback Joe Theismann
by theprogrammerman on Jul 21, 2011 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions
exactly!
"It ain't about how hard you hit, it is about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward, how much can you take and KEEP MOVING FORWARD. That's how winning is done!" - R.B.
somethings icky in the deal, but i’m not too surprised. i just want football dammit.
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by cockynessIsWHODAT on Jul 21, 2011 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Jon, you get a rec on that one.
"Nobody in football should be called a genius. A genius is a guy like Norman Einstein." - Former NFL Quarterback Joe Theismann
by theprogrammerman on Jul 21, 2011 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions
basic physics of negoatiation
but both sides will not be 100% thrilled on every issue in the end. things don’t work that way, especially in a $9billion dollar business.
who is willing to be the bigger person & take one in the nads to get back to playing again, which is the main goal of it all?
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by cockynessIsWHODAT on Jul 21, 2011 8:48 PM CDT reply actions
If anyone cares about my opinion:
I just want to know what the f*** is going on. I don’t care who’s right/wrong. I just want a deal, and I want to know why that isn’t happening, so it can be remedied.
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wow! in a 2nd email to players de smith says the nfl may be in violation of federal labor laws by trying 2 coerce plyrs into forming a union
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Yeah…
They were going to re-certify the union, until big bad Roger told them they had to.
Now they are going to sue because they are being forced to to what they were already going to do.
Childish!
"It ain't about how hard you hit, it is about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward, how much can you take and KEEP MOVING FORWARD. That's how winning is done!" - R.B.
Jim Trotter
CLARIFICATION: the second email was from nflpa general counsel richard berthelsen, not demaurice smith.
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"I rejected those answers. Instead, I chose something different. I chose the impossible. I chose...Rapture!"
Good Lord now De Smith the lawyer comes out....
this is NOT a good sign. The players are being their own worst enemy right now
" I’ve never done drugs but I think watching Matty Ice stare blankly towards the field as Drew Brees kneels down while clock hits zero in a playoff game would be like doing cocaine off a strippers @$$#….yeah that good.
Yes my hatred for Atlanta is unhealthy/ possibly illegal" - Malbrough
by born in areacode 318 on Jul 21, 2011 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Albert Breer
I’m told the NFLPA conference call is over.
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whatev. i'm over it.
transporting myself to a happier day. watching SB XLIV.
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by cockynessIsWHODAT on Jul 21, 2011 8:57 PM CDT reply actions
Good choice. We’re going to have to hang out sometime.
Maybe MARY JANE will load up and pass the PEACE PIPE around the conference room and they’ll all get happy in a big hurry, which might just help speed up the process. - HansDat
sounds like a plan friend. we shall float the bogue chitto & talk saints
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by cockynessIsWHODAT on Jul 21, 2011 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Now ya talking. That would be a perfect CSC get together. Met at the Choo Choo early enough to set up camp and catch a bus to the river. I’m sure with all the action on the front page this will be lost but I can see it now. Don’t forget your towel. You know that tube gets hot. No need to mention beer. I got it.
Maybe MARY JANE will load up and pass the PEACE PIPE around the conference room and they’ll all get happy in a big hurry, which might just help speed up the process. - HansDat
darren rovell
by scottshanle
Texans owner Bob McNair told me he thought players would ratify the CBA. Assume some owners are shocked right now.
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One thing we can probably all agree on...
Assuming there are pre-season games, we’re going to see some sloppy ass football.
lock out or not...
this would be applicable.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qais_eGMnWk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39GH-nzrY_I&feature=relatde
Can anyone see the new story on the front page?
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yup
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by cockynessIsWHODAT on Jul 21, 2011 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Thanks. Was having trouble getting it to post.
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de rein, mon ami
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by cockynessIsWHODAT on Jul 21, 2011 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions
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