DeAndre McDaniel Looking for More than Just a Roster Spot with Saints
by Andrew Juge on Jul 27, 2011 9:00 AM CDT
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PrintAt the risk of sounding like a broken record, I love, love, love the DeAndre McDaniel pickup. I called for the Saints to trade up and take this guy starting in the fourth round of the NFL draft. At the time the Saints didn't have a pick until the 7th round after they taking Johnny Patrick in the third round. Three rounds later, McDaniel was still on the board and he'd been listed as Mel Kiper's best available for the better part of 36 hours, and the Saints passed on him again. Twice.
McDaniel came into the draft as a third round graded prospect and many were shocked to see him go undrafted. I was particularly shocked to see the Saints pass on him considering they had only one safety on the roster at the time in Malcolm Jenkins. So why did he go undrafted?
According to some, he was red flagged on many scouting reports due to an injury risk that teams were worried about. He also ran a relatively slow 40-yard dash time at the NFL Combine which apparently hurt his stock as well. So don't expect this guy to come to camp and mail in a performance. McDaniel is a capable player with the pedigree to play at the NFL level and he's got a huge chip on his shoulder after going undrafted.
Three months later he finally signed with the Black and Gold, and now he'll try to become the next Lance Moore, Pierre Thomas or Chris Ivory. That is, an undrafted rookie free agent who takes the league by storm. If the season started today, he'd be the only strong safety on the team. That said, I think we all expect Roman Harper to come back, but I think McDaniel stands a great chance of making the squad as Harper's primary backup.
Check out his write up on NFL.com:
Overview: "McDaniel is a physically impressive safety prospect who makes a lot of plays roaming the middle in zone coverage and filling against the run. Would be a good fit for a team that likes to walk a safety down into the box for run support or to cut loose on blitzes. Will bring a tough, intimidating, explosive presence to the middle of an NFL defense. Some deficiencies in man coverage and an off-the-field issue are the two main areas of concern. But in a relatively weak safety class, McDaniel should hear his named called in the first few rounds of the draft."
Strengths: "McDaniel is an outstanding blend of height, length, bulk and speed. Looks the part. Very productive player, with a flair for making the big play. Appears to be a well-prepared. Has good range in zone, can lay the wood or make a plays on the ball. Loves to play the run, fills in a hurry."
Weaknesses: "Is a bit high-cut and lacks some fluidity when attempting to mirror quicker receivers in coverage. Can get caught looking in the backfield at play fakes on occasion. Must watch his tackling technique at times. Was arrested in 2008 but is not a locker room personality problem."
Does this write-up remind anyone of Roman Harper? Does this write up sound like the type of player that Gregg Williams can turn into a devastating playmaker? I think so! Don't be surprised when McDaniel makes the 53-man roster and starts a few games when Harper gets banged up. Mark my words. I think he'll satisfy himself with making the team for now but I'm hopeful McDaniel represents another very low risk - high return type of story the Saints have become so good at constructing.
Do you see McDaniel making the team?
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Agreed.
I was excited with the pick from the get-go. Though the character issue turns upsets me.
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If Loomis rolls with him, I’m not concerned. Aside from Charles Grant (work ethic, desire) and Reggie (ego), this team hasn’t really had character concerns since Payton. They did their homework on Hargrove, and I trust lockerroom to take a guy under wing.
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by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Jul 27, 2011 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions
Reggie (ego),
What bad ego has Reggie shown since coming to New Orleans?
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He was talking about the frozen waffles. Those suck
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by Fat Punk Kicker on Jul 27, 2011 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Those waffles are the best
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by Who Dat Patate on Jul 27, 2011 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Ego, as in thinking he is more than a talented role player with a great niche and costing the Saints on the field because his ego can’t accept what he is and leads him to believe he can do more than he actually can and is better “worth more” than he actually is.
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by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Jul 27, 2011 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Early in his career...
he did mention wanting to be season MVP AND Super Bowl MVP…
Didn’t sound too much of a team player at the time.
Repeat? Under construction...
I know it was a serious issue
It happen 3 years ago and he has been a model citizen as far as I’ve heard, since then.
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by cajuncommando58 on Jul 27, 2011 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions
Giants add 49ers center David Baas
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by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Jul 27, 2011 9:15 AM CDT reply actions
Adam Schefter
Former Chiefs defensive tackle Ron Edwards reached agreement with Carolina on a 3-yr, $8.25 million deal.
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Wonder if that is an upgrade over Ed.
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by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Jul 27, 2011 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions
know anything about him coldpizza?
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by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Jul 27, 2011 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions
I am an ACC football fan and totally agree with your McDaniel evaluation
This guy is a playmaker and it was very surprising to me that NO ONE drafted him. He will make mistakes, but he is capable of the big, game-changing play…and better hands than Harper (although I pray they re-sign Harper)…Very smart move by the Saints..
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I really think he was the best UDFA. Im curious to see how others like DeAndre Brown, Anthony Gray, David Mims, Tim Barnes, Joe Lefeged, Kendrick Burney, Mark Herzlich, and a few others do, but to me, McDaniel was a priority and great get.
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by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Jul 27, 2011 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions
Can we possibly get a “he’ll compete for a roster spot” option? These unwarranted extremes aren’t doing anything for me.
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Not sure what your point is...
My point was that picking him up as a free agent was a very smart move…Many analysts thought he would be drafted in the mid-rounds.
Everyone competes for a roster spot. Ryan Leaf and Jamarcus Russell were first round picks who were total busts.
I saw McDaniel play on numerous occasions and was impressed. Will he make the team…I have no idea…But IMHO it was still a very smart move by the Saints. That was all I was trying to say.
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by BenDerDonDat on Jul 27, 2011 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions
I second that with the added caveat that if he amounts to anything, the Saints got a player who had a decent draft grade without using a draft choice to select him, and at a minimum salary. Don’t see anything bad about that.
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by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Jul 27, 2011 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions
My point is, I don’t view him as either a roster lock or a camp body and that’s the only two choices I’m being given on the poll above.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
I didn’t even notice they had a poll.
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by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Jul 27, 2011 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions
I agree with that Pizza.
That’s all he will be doing is competing for a roster spot right now. He may get one, he may not. I just read the votes and did not vote, because I don’t really know much about this guy.
Maybe come back and ask that question after I see him in a few practices or a couple of pre season games.
My bad...
I did not understand from your first post that you were referring to the choices in the poll…
IMO, he has as good a chance of making the roster as any of the Saints draft picks other than Cameron Jordan and the Bama running back
That is all I can say.
Apologize for missing the gist of your first post.
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by BenDerDonDat on Jul 27, 2011 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions
pretty simple
he either makes the team or he doesn’t. That’s what the vote is. If you want shades of gray vote in another poll. I’m not adding “he’ll BARELY make the roster by the skin of his teeth”. Abstaining is absolutely a choice as well.
by Andrew Juge on Jul 27, 2011 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions
he makes the team
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by BenDerDonDat on Jul 27, 2011 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions
Sorry Andrew.
You are right. Either he makes the team or he doesnt. But I tell you what. Nobody knows that answer in reality. So I just didn’t vote on that one. Pretty simple, with no shady looking gray around it.
Damn, You guys are intense......................Chill a little
We got a lot of football to go.
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by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Jul 27, 2011 9:41 AM CDT reply actions
Good. He’s a helluva lot more consistent than either Edwards or Cotchery.
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do you have any resource for finding out how many time a person was thrown to?
I was very suprosed to see that Edwards and Holmes had the same number of catches last year, with Edwards having over 100 more yards that Holmes as well.
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Both Football Outsiders and Yahoo (believe it or not) track WR targets. And you’r eright, Edwards had a decent season last year. String two or three of those together and that’s when I’ll start to compare the two.
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Ewards quit dropping the ball because he had Holmes to worry him.IMO
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by cajuncommando58 on Jul 27, 2011 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions
If Jets somehow land Nnamdi, that’s the best offensive and defensive free agents in the entire 500 player class. Sick.
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by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Jul 27, 2011 9:48 AM CDT reply actions
Rumors of Brandan Jackson to Bengals from Rotoworld and Giants make offer to Bradshaw
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by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Jul 27, 2011 9:49 AM CDT reply actions
Falcons to re-sign MIke Peterson and Brad Smith going to Bears per rotoworld— neither confirmed yet
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by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Jul 27, 2011 9:51 AM CDT reply actions
There a reason we have more free agents out there than just about anyone...yet we haven't signed a single vet yet? Ours or anyone elses?
It’s not good if half our defense and our offensive tackles and center are all rookies or first year starters.
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Go through our list. Of 29 players, Moore, Bushrod, Strief, Goodwin, Dave Thomas, Roman Harper are the only NEEDS, and of the 3 OL, you could argue 2/3 would be good. Saints will be patient. 500+ FA’s with a combined 600 million in cap space means the market will settle before long. Teams are still trying to figure how cap will look in the next few years. Saints will do well with under the radar moves at bargain prices. Just have to be patient. No news at this point is good news.
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by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Jul 27, 2011 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions
Theyre probably just getting those other guys signed first.
We can’t do any signing of the vets till Friday. But they could at least give us a peak at who they will sign.
LaCanfora reports Reggie Bush will likely be DROPPED by 4:01pm EST on Thursday.
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Hoping for a dual press release worded " Saints have signed Darren Sproles and released Reggie Bush"— same skill set, more consistantcy, less price and less drama.
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by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Jul 27, 2011 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions
Agreed in terms of the comparison, though I think we’d be better served with a legitimate power back. Joique Bell may very well turn out to be that guy, but I’m thinking more along the lines of someone with a few skins on the wall, like Ricky Williams or Marion the Barbarian. Those being the bigger names. I’m sure there are a number of available short yardage backs that fall somewhere in between, both in terms of name recognition and salary expectations.
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Sproles can also be used in the return game… unlike a true power back.
Plus, assuming limited injuries, we have Ivory to run over people, and Ingram might fill that role too – we’ll see.
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Ivory gets injured when he looks at a defender the wrong way. I agree that we need a RS, but that can also be filled with a 6th WR or a DB (Johnny Patrick being the frontrunner there). We have no durable power back, outside of perhaps Bell.
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We could also fill that need with a FB that’s a bit more adept at taking handoffs. Mike Tolbert, LeRon McClain, Jason Snelling, someone in that vein.
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I’m not arguing with you. (I wanted Thomas Jones last year.)
I just don’t think the Saints are going to get rid of a small, fast, pass-catching RB, and pickup another big, hard running running back.
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Mike Triplett coming up on NFL Network for those who are intrested.
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by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Jul 27, 2011 10:13 AM CDT reply actions
HOLY. Mike Lombardi reports Jets will spend the next 12-14 hours trying to sign Nnamdi Asomugha
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by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Jul 27, 2011 10:15 AM CDT reply actions
Revis + Asomugha = 8 in the box all game. Scary.
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Rumor that Sidney Rice and Seattle have agreed in principle to contract
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by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Jul 27, 2011 10:17 AM CDT reply actions
"It's all about the Benjamins, baby"
That;s the ONLY reason a WR would go to Seattle right now.
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For the record, Leinart also signed with them. I think Carrol with probably want to roll with his USC boy over T-Jax. Although, the Seahawks getting Jackson and Rice, along with Minny’s ex O-coordinator Darrell Bevell could be a great starting point. And if Reggie does get cut, which I still don’t expect him to be, he’ll probably be wearing that gross lime green next year as well.
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This.
5.5 mil deal.
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Tripplet says Saints are trying to keep Reggie, but will be Reggie’s choice based on best offer.
So quite on FA front since deals can’t be finalized till Friday, doesn’t help to leak them. 10 guys Saints don’t want to bring back, few guys getting competition from.
Puts Saints at top of list of team with great continuity.
no good nuggets of info
Gut on Reggie is that he’ll leave, but depends on market more than Bush. If he realizes no situation is better, he;ll be back
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by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Jul 27, 2011 10:22 AM CDT reply actions
but will be Reggie’s choice based on best offer.
Pure rhetoric. He’s under contract. It’s the Saints’ choice.
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Triplett’s, not mine. They will have to cut him if he doesn’t agree to their offer, at which point he will see other offers. It will come down to how the market values him compared to how the Saints do.
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by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Jul 27, 2011 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions
There is a third option with Reggie ... do nothing
Think about this for a moment….DeAngelo Williams just got $43m for 5 yrs ($8.6m per year) for production comparable to Reggie. If we restructure Reggie’s contract, he’s still going to end up at $6-8m. Do you want to be locked into that for another 4 years if he doesn’t produce? On the other hand, do you want to cut him now, only to find out he is finally healthy, and maybe burns us twice a year for the next 6-8 years, like Morten Andersen?
At this point, let just kill the drama, and pay him the $11.8m for the one year. If he produces, you negotiate a new, incentive laden contract, you have a potent weapon. If he doesn’t produce again, you don’t re-sign him, and you haven’t committed to future multiple years worth of salary. Trust me, DeAngelo Williams just raised the bar on Reggie’s worth.
Holmes deal— 5 years, 50 million, 24 guaranteed
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by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Jul 27, 2011 10:23 AM CDT reply actions
If Jets sign Nnamdi, they won’t have money for depth. Already, Brad Smith and Edwards will be gone. They still need a pass rush. They just own’t be able to sign players you will need to go deep. Injury and lack of rotational depth will finish them.
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by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Jul 27, 2011 10:25 AM CDT reply actions
They went deep the last two years with questionable depth. I don’t think they’re much worse off without those guys in the picture. They’ll still have Cromartie as a nickel and they drafted Kerley and McKnight at WR.
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Cromartie is a FA and will be gone
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by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Jul 27, 2011 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions
Albert Breer saying Jets/Nnamdi is very real
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by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Jul 27, 2011 10:28 AM CDT reply actions
Here’s my problem with Mike Brown. It’s okay for an owner to not honor a contract and cut a player, but the minute a player does the same, all of the sudden you’re a man of principle? hypocrite
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by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Jul 27, 2011 10:32 AM CDT reply actions
Wow...a lot of action today
Poluszny to Jags…Takeo Spikes and Bob Sanders to Chargers…Donte Stallworth and Barry Cofield to Redskins…Holmes staying with the Jets…
by BlackandGold4ever on Jul 27, 2011 10:33 AM CDT reply actions
Here’s my problem with Mike Brown. It’s okay for an owner to not honor a contract and cut a player, but the minute a player does the same, all of the sudden you’re a man of principle? hypocrite
Eric Weddle will make decision today.
Davin Joseph said Bucs have not made ANY offer to him on twitter.
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by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Jul 27, 2011 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions
That’s not hypocrisy, that’s posturing + cutting your losses, after the former didn’t work. Palmer’s the one holding the team over a barrel, not vice versa. “Trade me or I’ll retire.” Well, they didn’t trade him. Now let’s see who the hypocrite is.
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The only clear “makes sense” move is to trade him and gets value in return. palmer isn’t holding the team over a barrel. The cap doesn’t have to be reached till the end of the season. They can keep his cap space right up till then, and give it in extensions to young players or distribute it to all players if they choose to do nothing with his space. Palmer’s only choices are to return, return and fake an injury so that his salary is guaranteed all year, sit out and hope that in 2012 when his salary is committed he can force a move, or stay retired.
I’d try to buy out my contract and give money back if I wanted to get free bad enough.
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by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Jul 27, 2011 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions
They’re negotiating, my brother.
… or if you prefer…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEzuC5UoM8g
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friend met Rocky McIntosh’s agent in Vegas, and word is Saints have a contract drawn up for him. Keeping quite till things can go official. Saints don’t want to release any deals to media because other teams can one up them before 5pm Friday.
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by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Jul 27, 2011 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions
Bob Sanders out of Indy? wow!
That division is up in the air now… could be Houston’s year.
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Based on Sanders’s departure? He hasn’t been a major factor in 3 or 4 years.
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I’ll laugh if they lose Melvin Bullit too
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by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Jul 27, 2011 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions
Bullitt’s a guy I’d like to see the Saints go after.
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I second that. perfect loomis bargain type.
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by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Jul 27, 2011 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions
Not just Sanders… I don’t think they are going to resing all of their high profile FA’s, and I didn;t even know Sanders was one of the FA they were going to lose.
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he signed with Chargers before lockout
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by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Jul 27, 2011 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions
Redskins sign Kellen Clemons
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by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Jul 27, 2011 10:37 AM CDT reply actions
Quintin Mikell cut by Eagles, signed by Rams
Rams dropped Atogwe to make room
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Atogwe signed with Redskins before lockout
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by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Jul 27, 2011 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, bad writing by me...
meant to say they had a spot…too much going on to keep stuff straight…thanks for the correction
by BlackandGold4ever on Jul 27, 2011 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions
Philly Enquirer saying they won't bring back any free agents...
including Stewart Bradley
by BlackandGold4ever on Jul 27, 2011 10:39 AM CDT reply actions
Jets are competing with 49ers for Nnamdi right now. SF making strong push.
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by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Jul 27, 2011 10:43 AM CDT reply actions
Why is Orton mentioned as a possible QB in SF, but not Kolb?
They need a QB, really really really bad.
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Cuz Kolb hasn't done anything significant
I really think this Kolb thing is all hype. I would take Orton over Kolb any day. At least you know barring injury he can be consistant with a good WR to throw too.
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by born in areacode 318 on Jul 27, 2011 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions
Niners already have Kaepernick and Smith
It’s unlikely they’ll spend any real money on another QB…
by BlackandGold4ever on Jul 27, 2011 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions
But...
my question is why would they want Orton but not Kolb?
why would Arizona want Kolb but not Orton?
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Kolb still has potential
Orton’s potential has a ceiling at this point, imo. Cards are buying into the potential. Don’t think its worth the 1st round pick the Eagles are asking for, but from what I hear, the Cards are offering a 3rd and Rodgers-Cromartie
Peyton, I can eat Oreos faster than you!!!!
Smith signed a one-year contract
49ers are hoping to hit the Luck sweepstakes, imo.
Peyton, I can eat Oreos faster than you!!!!
They won’t be bad enough, even with their crappy QB’s
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Well
If you can’t win the NFC West, you’re going to be picking high up in the draft.
Peyton, I can eat Oreos faster than you!!!!
Kolb looked worse last year than he did in 09. Eagles are losing leverage because Cards are the only team seriously still showing intrest. Orton has done much with players around him, but isn’t known for overcoming deficits and making things happen on his own— he isn’t a “play maker”
McNabb to Minn is about McNabb acting the diva. He’s worried they are trying to bring in Tyler thigpen.
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by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Jul 27, 2011 10:49 AM CDT reply actions
Tyler thigpen
Another guy the Saints should be looking at, imo.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
He now has a 3-year agreement with the Bills.
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by Dang Hu Dat on Jul 27, 2011 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions
Don’t know why McNabb feels its an issue. Think he’s concerned the Vikings are going to try to bring another QB in and he’ll have competition (aside from Ponder who’s had no offseason as well as McNabb).
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by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Jul 27, 2011 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions
LaCanfora said issue is still the money
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by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Jul 27, 2011 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions
Leinart weighing his options...
talk about funny…he just needs to sign with Seattle and get it over with.
by BlackandGold4ever on Jul 27, 2011 10:52 AM CDT reply actions
No kidding. He’s better off competing with Whithurst and Jackson than Grossman/Clemens/Beck
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by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Jul 27, 2011 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions
Bucs close to re-signing Quincy Black. I wish someone would steal him away.
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by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Jul 27, 2011 10:53 AM CDT reply actions
Namely us. I think he’d work out well as a 4-3 WOLB.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
Dont think we can afford him, but he’d be an UPGRADE for sure.
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by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Jul 27, 2011 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions
It was funny. last night reports broke that falcons were close to resigning Clabo, then Clabo’s camp said not even. Hope Buffalo gets him.
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by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Jul 27, 2011 10:54 AM CDT reply actions
Why did Hasselbeck sign with the Titans?
I thought he’d have better options available
by BlackandGold4ever on Jul 27, 2011 10:55 AM CDT reply actions
His best option was staying put. After that, Titans gave him the $$ he wanted and he’s worked with Locker while Locker was in college. Doesn’t look like he’ll have anyone to throw to.
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by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Jul 27, 2011 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions
Hasselbeck got a multi year contract. Don't know for how many years, or how much money.
Maybe that was his best option, especially them giving him a multi year contract instead of say a 1 year contract.
Lions and Browns going after Anthony Hargrove
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by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Jul 27, 2011 10:57 AM CDT reply actions
So the Browns want all of our players?
They already got one from us, now the want Young and Hargrove also? They’re trying to make a team as good as ours, but it won’t work.
per Sal Cappacio twitter
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by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Jul 27, 2011 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions
I thought the Texans were going to come out and set the market for Asomugha...
Kubiak has to win this year, so I don’t know why they don’t make him an offer he can’t refuse…
by BlackandGold4ever on Jul 27, 2011 11:00 AM CDT reply actions
I'm talking to a 49er fan who said that it makes absolutely no sense for them to be going after Nnamdi.
Thinks Lombardi is being used.
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He’s not the only one reporting it. They will cut Clements and not resign Aubrayo (who I hope the Saints target) and are looking for a cover corner.
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by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Jul 27, 2011 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions
NFL Network is suggesting Miami is working hard to get Ortin.
"Dang! The Saints won the Super Bowl!" - my wife, Meso "Happy" Hu Dat.
Orten to Miami and Kolb to Arizona would seem to end QB musical chairs. Orten will be traded, he’s not in camp.
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by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Jul 27, 2011 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions
Deangello Williams will sign with either Giants, Broncos, or Panthers TODAY per Michael Lombardi tweet.
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by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Jul 27, 2011 11:14 AM CDT reply actions
root for the afc team with his old coach.
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by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Jul 27, 2011 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions
"Signed"
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No, I'm saying that they "signed" with teams.
Meaning they agree to sign on friday.
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Ok...seriously...there were 20 posts in this thing when i went to a meeting an hour ago.
"Winter is coming"
Raiders looking at VY, Trent Edwards, and Marc Bulger
by BlackandGold4ever on Jul 27, 2011 11:20 AM CDT reply actions
Ugh @ Bulger. I’d honestly rather wait for Henne to hit the open market.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
Edwards could be a good starter
He didn’t play terrible in Buffalo, but injuries and the emergence of Ryan Fitzpatrick made him expendable. He’s still got potential
Peyton, I can eat Oreos faster than you!!!!
Rumor is Hasselbeck is getting a $21M deal
by BlackandGold4ever on Jul 27, 2011 11:22 AM CDT reply actions
Garland Gillen
Malcolm Jenkins 2nd day in a row at the facility. Also Chase Daniel and Tyler Lorenzen
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by Jon Banks on Jul 27, 2011 11:22 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
He did.
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not till Nnamdi shoe drops tonight. Jets offering Nnamdi 12 million as of now.
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by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Jul 27, 2011 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions
How much money do the Jets have?
It just seems kinda crazy to me that they just signed Holmes and now they’re in contention for Nnamdi, too
by BlackandGold4ever on Jul 27, 2011 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions
This.
They had to cut guys to get under the cap. Now they have money to spend? I don’t buy it.
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Mark Sanchez
Is apparently willing to re-negotiate his contract so they afford to sign FA’s.
Peyton, I can eat Oreos faster than you!!!!
Lacanfora tweets Steve Breaston rumored to reunite with Haley in KC
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by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Jul 27, 2011 11:37 AM CDT reply actions
Hasselbeck deal is 3 years
so he couldn’t get $7M a year somewhere else?
by BlackandGold4ever on Jul 27, 2011 11:39 AM CDT reply actions
Dolphins in contract talks with Orton.
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by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Jul 27, 2011 11:41 AM CDT reply actions
Giants will release rocky Benard because he won’t restructure contract.
Shanle thinks he’ll find something out today.
Jets looking at Moss, which doesn’t make sense considering their philosophy in run game.
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by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Jul 27, 2011 11:45 AM CDT reply actions
The news coming out of NJ makes no damn sense.
They seem to want and have the ability to pay everyone.
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moss would be for veteran minimum
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by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Jul 27, 2011 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions
What's next?
They go and sign DeAngelo and Ricky Williams?
by BlackandGold4ever on Jul 27, 2011 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions
considering their philosophy in run game
Their “philosophy” is based on their personnel, just like any other team. Tennessee was run first and still went after Moss last season. Relative balance is always going to be the key to success on offense.
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Tennessee was run first and still went after Moss last season.
That probably had more to do with the fact that there offense was only CJ last year. They didn’t have a single WR for (insert name of whichever QB was playing) to throw to. Moss was clearly a guy that they wanted to force teams to NOT play with 8 in the box. Too bad it didn’t work out.
Mark Ingram-OROY
Cam Jordan-DROY
New Orleans Saints-2012 Super Bowl Champs
Jared Tokarz
Free Agent Eric Weddle has resigned back with the Chargers.
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Why did the Chargers make Eric weddle the highest paid S in NFL history. dumb. should have waited and let someone else look foolish.
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by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Jul 27, 2011 12:12 PM CDT reply actions
These are the same people who selected Jonas Mouton (a 7th round pick) in the 2nd round.
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per evansliva tweet, jags likely to sign Dawan Landry
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by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Jul 27, 2011 12:34 PM CDT reply actions
s**t. deangelo stays in carolina 5 years 43 mil 21 guaranteed
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by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Jul 27, 2011 12:38 PM CDT reply actions
Where is Barrett Ruud going?
Doesn’t seem like the Bucs aren’t all that interested in bringing him back
by BlackandGold4ever on Jul 27, 2011 12:39 PM CDT reply actions
Just saw Lions are after Jonathan Joseph...
guess I answered my own question
by BlackandGold4ever on Jul 27, 2011 12:41 PM CDT reply actions
Jared Tokarz
RB Deangelo Williams is staying in Carolina. Signs a 5 year,43 million, 21 guaranteed contact with the #Panthers.
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!!!!!
Lance Moore
Wow this process has been pretty crazy. The Decision coming shortly lol
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decision on what. Did NO make him an ofer or someone else?
INGRAMANIA equals LOMBARDI 2012
by cajuncommando58 on Jul 27, 2011 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions
and Jake Delhomme is cut.
will be switching to podcast tthread for updates. shorter comments to sift through
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by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Jul 27, 2011 12:53 PM CDT reply actions
Don't sleep on the Isa Abdul-Quddus
Going to Fordham ususally means the kids pretty sharp academically which should make him pick up the defense quickly. He played cornerback which should make him a pretty good cover safety (i.e. Malcolm Jenkins)…AND he hits like a truck…..Saw Jeremhia Hunter play his senior year of football. Very classy kid played both ways and was a pretty good tailback. Hope he does well with the black and gold……
JUST OUT
The New Orleans Saints have agreed to terms on a three-year-contract with former Seattle Seahawks linebacker Will Herring, according to agent George Mavrikes.
Bring the metal....
Will Herring Info:
http://www.nfl.com/player/willherring/2507217/profile
http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/4407/player?r=1 says he’s a restricted FA… “original pick”
not much in the stats department
initial reaction… ?? :-( ??
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SAINTS NEWS!!! Woohoo!
"It ain't about how hard you hit, it is about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward, how much can you take and KEEP MOVING FORWARD. That's how winning is done!" - Rocky
by Dan Kelly on Jul 27, 2011 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
sAINTS RESIGN mOOREE FOR 5 YEARS
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by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Jul 27, 2011 1:03 PM CDT reply actions
details?
INGRAMANIA equals LOMBARDI 2012
by cajuncommando58 on Jul 27, 2011 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions
AND ARE GOINBG AFTER SEATTEL DT BRANDON MEBANE
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by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Jul 27, 2011 1:04 PM CDT reply actions
WHY???
http://www.nfl.com/player/brandonmebane/2495677/profile
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Bucs signed their first round pick
Whoohoo…maybe we can get Jordan and Ingram signed soon!
by BlackandGold4ever on Jul 27, 2011 1:31 PM CDT reply actions
This does not look like Roman Harper. Or Usama Young.
Said you had a thing or two to tell me
How was I to know you would upset me?
A couple of those shoulder tackles may have been broken in the NFL.
I hope he has the smarts to handle the speed and complexity of the NFL game.
And, yes.. he looks better than UYoung
"It ain't about how hard you hit, it is about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward, how much can you take and KEEP MOVING FORWARD. That's how winning is done!" - Rocky
Unless is speed isn't NFL caliber...
I think my man Usama’s gone.
Come on DeAndre, make me a believer!
Repeat? Under construction...
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