Brees Barely Cracks NFL's Top 10

The only list that matters to me is my own (and for you, your own).

Brees and Revis were too low. Peterson and Ray Lewis too high.

MilneMalbrough Ralph Malbrough

Remember NFL Top 100 is done by players. And NFL players for the most part don’t watch actual games. Ray Lewis #4, is it 2001?

Chad LeDoux
    #9 seriously? i know he had an off year last year

22 picks. (I mentioned this on your original comment, but Hans has forced me to respond to it again.) Brady threw 4. Peyton threw 17.

look at it this way:
Brees is still thought of as the 3rd best QB in the league. yes he’s number 9 overall, but 3rd QB in the NFL isn’t too bad.

FrenchFreak

Tom Brady no.1?!?!?

Sure is,
- 36 touchdowns (puts him at 9th all time, with him also having the single season record)
- 4 Interceptions gives him a 9:1 TD:INT ratio, probably also a record or close to it
- 3900 yards puts him at 8th in passing yards this past season
- he did all that without Randy Moss or a true rushing threat (nothing against BJGE)

besides the year he was injured he’s been pretty damn consistent, he’s never thrown more than 14 INTs…as much as I hate the Patriots, Brady deserved to be number one.

Ed Reed and Ray Lewis in the top 5? Really. I also think it is hilarious that Juilius peppers is in the top 10.

I would love for him to be #1, sure, but in all honesty, #9 is fair. Ray Lewis might be a little high, but thats just because people respect him and his career. Ed Reed at #5 I can agree with too. The guy missed about half the season and still had 8 INTs. Thats impressive.

Overall, the voting by the players wasn’t that much different than fan votes for the Pro Bowl, with tenure and reputation often playing a more important role than which players actually performed best during the past year.

With that said, until which time the lock out ends and they actually have real news to report on, I’m tired of wasting time with the NFL channel. It’s no different than watching the same rerun of “Law & Order” for the fifth time.

Fans voted Brees at 9 also.

here’s why- I have watched him a lot. He’s an incredible talent. But, it seems like a lot of games he gains like 60 yards in the first half on 7 carries, and then in the second half carries the ball 8 more times and then finishes with 82 yards.

So I checked the stats- a whole bunch of guys averaged more ypc than him. He averages about the same as Matt Forte who clearly is not a top ten guy. Four players average more yards per game than him.

If you compare stats, and we just go by last season (remember- the 2 seasons before he had fumbilitis, so that doesn’t help his resume in this consideration- about 20 fumbles in the 2 seasons before last season), he doesn’t dominate. Jamaal Charles averaged 6.4 ypc to Peterson’s 4.6 and over 5 yards per game more and over 150 yds more for the season. Not sure if Jamaal Charles is a top ten, but how can AP be if other guys perform better?

I have to agree with Brady at No.1. The interceptions is what killed Brees in the rankings. As far as QB’s I would have put Brady#1 (3 Superbowl Rings) Brees at No.2 and Peyton Manning at #3.

 Reason for Manning at #3? Well if you look at both QB’s, they each have a Ring correct? But guess who Brees outplayed in the Superbowl? Yes, Peyton Manning.

 So therefore, Brees has an edge over Manning.

 However! The only rankings that matters…is SUPERBOWL PART DEAUX!!!!

SUPERBOWL PART DEUX!!!!

FIFY

Bress should win another Super Bowl within the next 3 years with our current office structure and coaching staff (barring injuries of course). That will still put him behind Brady but has to put him ahead of Manning especially if he is voted the Super Bowl MVP again (highly likely). I think we can win another Super Bowl with this team but to be honest with you if it happens the year New orleans host the Super Bowl I couldn’t be more excited. Imagine winning the Super Bowl in New Orleans! That would pass any Saints moment ever in history and would go down as #1 even our 1st Super Bowl in my opinion. Petersen will probably not win a Super Bowl in his career. Ray and Ed will probably never win a Super Bowl because of Joe Flacco. I think T.J. Who’syour momma exposed him by telling everyone that he is slow in his reads. Polamalu misses a lot of games and I think that has to be a deciding factor on his place in this league. Andre Johnson is the best reciever in football but if his team can’t make the playoffs that has to weigh on people’s minds. Revis is the best cover corner but with him holding a doughnut in the ring department and Brees eventually having two; you have to place Brees ahead. So by the next time Brees wins a ring he should be #2 in my opinion. I’m not an irrational Saints fan either. I think Manning is the best QB. I think Brady has done more within his system. He has the hardware so he should be considered the best. Bress is the best QB for Sean Payton’s system. Does that make him the best QB in the NFL? No it does not. It makes him the best QB for the New Orleans Saints and to be honest with you that’s all I care about.

So by the next time Brees wins a ring he should be #2 in my opinion.

What if Roethlisberger wins a 3rd before then? Comparative statistics or not, if he’s leading his team to titles, he has to enter the “elite” conversation eventually. That’s truly no different than Bradshaw, when compared to his peers in the 1970s.

Is Trent Dilfer an elite QB?

No, not even close by any means. You gotta remember on Dilfer’s team. That team had an iron clad defense like a Berlin Wall, a great running game, and good special teams. It’s very rare with a poor offensive team wins the Superbowl. And that offense was pretty ugly.

If San Diego sort out their special teams or Wade does a G-Dub in Houston
both teams could have a run in the next year or so. Would they then become elite
if the run ended up with a Lombardi?
Both guys have been putting up good numbers for the last few years.

I’m more than happy he made 9th.

With all the interceptions he threw its a good number.