Golden Words From Golden Boy Jon Gruden
What happens when the verbose and straight-talking (while ultimately not actually saying much) Jon Gruden (of Monday Night Football and Jon Gruden's QB Camp) collides with the esteemed and legacy-filled Manning Passing Academy?
Well, it turned out to be a quote-a-palooza beyond my wildest dreams.
Thank you Jeff Duncan (no, that's the wrong Jeff Duncan. Try this one. Still a bit off...how's this Jeff Duncan? That's the one.), for posting this meeting with the media Jon Gruden presided over when at the Manning Passing Academy on Friday.
Make the jump for some choice selections along with my snide commentary...
First of all, I was surprised to find out that Gruden's son, Jon II, is not only attending the Manning's camp, but further digging (via wikipedia) revealed that his nickname is "Deuce", for pete's sake! How about that?
The loquacious analyst for "Monday Night Football" met with the media on Friday at the Manning Passing Academy, where his son is a first-time camper, and touched on a variety of topics concerning the Saints.
Gruden discusses the receivers without even mentioning Marques Colston...
All of them are highly underrated, because they are very unselfish. You see Lance Moore do some things in the slot which are terrific. You see him block, which doesn't show up on the stat sheet. You see (Devery) Henderson and (Robert) Meachem blazing down the field. They're never going to finish in the top 10 (in the league in receptions). They're not catch counters in New Orleans. They're into winning football games.
I like that "catch counters" phrase.
Gruden definitely loves him some Jimmy Graham (and who doesn't?) and seems well-prepared to gush over Graham when we appear on MNF:
How can you not like him? Who saw that coming? That guy in the red zone, was not only a weapon for them, but he's really established himself as a force with what he can do in different alignments. I saw Payton line him up at receiver and (at other times) bring him out of the backfield. The guy can really create some matchup problems for you.
When discussing the debate of "is it the system or the players" of the Saints offensive prowess, he drops this doozy about Lance Moore (emphasis mine):
Throw in Lance Moore a quick slot receiver, who has the body language of an All-Pro.
Jon, what does that even mean?
Next, it's clear that Gruden has a terminal case of INGRAMANIA!!!
I love the pick. Ingram, he's my kind of back. He's a finisher. He's a punishing back. He can close out games. I think you need a guy when you have the ball and the lead inside of four minutes to run clock, that that's the only enemy. I think Ingram's that kind of guy. I think he's an NFL back. He can pick up blitz flush. I've seen him do it. He's a pretty good receiver out the backfield. He's going to make a lot of big first downs for the Saints in key situations. I really like him.
Can anyone tell me what a blitz flush is? Jon's seen it, but I haven't.
From Gruden's take on the Saints 2010 running game:
I'm watching the film, Ladell Betts is playing one game, (Chris) Ivory's playing another game. I went to Dayton. I know where Tiffin (College) is. He's starting for the New Orleans Saints as a rookie. And he did a heckuva job, and then he got hurt. I see Julius Jones playing. That's five backs I've named.
Really? Five? I counted three. Now maybe Duncan clipped your quote a bit, but...we will never know, so I retract that dig. Good thing Jon went to Dayton and knows where Tiffin College is, otherwise I'd feel he's completely unqualified to comment on the Saints running game or Tusk.
Gruden goes on to share his thoughts on the Saints 2011 prospects, and I implore you to read the whole thing on nola.com if you haven't already, and then drop some delicious commentary into the comment section below, either criticizing, questioning, or expounding on what Jon said above.
With one caveat...do it in your best GRUDENSPEAK, please. Let's have fun with this!
As Just 'Nother Day said so sweetly in another thread...Are you prepared for some football? I know I am.
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That was good. Gruden talked. I said that. But he’s great!
"I have something no one else has: my brain. Which I use to my advantage, when advantageous."
But really, I don’t know what it is, but when he talks and you’re listening he sounds like a genius..but when you actually read the stuff…sheesh!
"I have something no one else has: my brain. Which I use to my advantage, when advantageous."
agreed
if he’s talking he could tell me that the best thing that could have happened to a player was get a concussion in a game and play through it and i’d probably believe him. Then I’d read it and be like this guy is crazy! Also, he doesn’t ever seem to get straight to the point. It takes alot of words for him to get the point across and i can definetly relate to that sometimes
Let's have a 2011 season. Get a deal done
by skinnykinney on Jul 10, 2011 3:02 AM CDT up reply actions
Gruden talks highly of the Saints
which is cool. Yeah, he didn’t mention Colston, I ain’t mad at him. But its easy to leave someone out, our WR corps aren’t exactly household names, outside SaintNation. He also mentioned the loss of Graham and Jenkins for the Sea. gm. The Manning camp, was held at my alma mater Se.La.U, for years, at what was called (by students) “Strawberry Field” (for those Beatles fans) its actually Strawberry Stadium. Maybe the contract was up, lower rate, so they moved to Nicholls State.
You think you know, and you don't know, and you never, ever, will.-Jim Mora Sr.
I understand ....nothing.-Michael Scott
The Future is Unwritten.-Joe Strummer
"I don't dance to DIdo dude"-Tommy Saxondale
Gruden talks glowingly about every player and team in the league. I wouldn’t sleep with him just yet.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
by coldpizza on Jul 9, 2011 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I've noticed, esp. QB's
You think you know, and you don't know, and you never, ever, will.-Jim Mora Sr.
I understand ....nothing.-Michael Scott
The Future is Unwritten.-Joe Strummer
"I don't dance to DIdo dude"-Tommy Saxondale
boom REC'd it!
Thumbs up, everybody...
For rock and roll!!!!
by Hans Petersen on Jul 9, 2011 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions
GRUDENSPEAK I love that one...
GRUDENSPEAK
Man I love that term. To understand Grunden you must know GRUDENSPEAK!
You have to understand what he is meaning by not understanding what he is saying. Should be include in the new Webster Dictionary under NFL-isms
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and under the C in their Pictorial Dictionary
INGRAMANIA equals LOMBARDI 2012
by cajuncommando58 on Jul 9, 2011 12:36 PM CDT reply actions
and that's even better when you read cc58's comments in Gruden's voice
hearing him in your head, talking about himself is pretty WILD
like a wildcat…not a Kentucky Wildcat, but an Arizona Wildcat. You know, one of those Stoops brothers, Mike, I think his name is, coaches out there in the desert, and they are thirsty for wins. He’s coached that team to three straight bowl games so he knows something about drinking the blood of your vanquished foes, kinda like those Twilight kids up in Oregon. Do you know about Oregon? I’ve been there and Belotti bleeds just like you and me…
Thumbs up, everybody...
For rock and roll!!!!
by Hans Petersen on Jul 9, 2011 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Ahh... you did catch that
and that’s even better when you read cc58’s comments in Gruden’s voice
INGRAMANIA equals LOMBARDI 2012
by cajuncommando58 on Jul 9, 2011 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Let’s not forget about Cameron Jordan. Talk about a football player. He hails from California, where the bears are golden and the chips are, too. Only this gold chip is blue in my book. What a motor on this guy. He can line up at defensive end. He can line up at weak side linebacker. He could line up at Sinatra’s bar mitzvah if you let him. But versatility isn’t what makes Jordan special. What makes him special is how hard he hits you. If you’re a running back, you’re about to be a non-running back when Cameron Jordan hits you. You’re going to be a flat on the turf, counting birdies back. Because this guy brings the wood. Not just in the playoffs versus Arizona, but every week of the month. Pick the wrong gap and this guy will put you in a woozy sleep.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
by coldpizza on Jul 9, 2011 2:06 PM CDT reply actions 4 recs
FANTASTIC!!!
that’s what I’m talkin’ bout
Thumbs up, everybody...
For rock and roll!!!!
by Hans Petersen on Jul 9, 2011 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions
lol awsome
Let's have a 2011 season. Get a deal done
by skinnykinney on Jul 10, 2011 3:04 AM CDT up reply actions
Don’t forget about my man Reggie Bush. Now THIS GUY is a DECOY! I like to call him “THE COCKTEASE”. And not just because he gets the opposing defenses all hot and bothered. I’m here to tell you he’s an equal opportunity heartbreaker. I was down in Metarie during preseason workouts watching the Saints. He’s always looking great. He’s giving you all the right signals. You spend a lot of money on him, and just when you think it’s gonna pay off…BOOM! He doesn’t deliver. He’ll rip your nuts off. Leaves his team in the training room after games icing their blueballs or placing themselves on IR for groin pulls. Reminds me of another guy I used to coach by the name of Cadillac Williams. Great nickname. Lots of hype out of college. Big tease. But THIS GUY, Bush, takes it to another level. It’s players like him that make me think “Man, I’m glad I’m up here in the booth, instead trying to figure out how to finally score with Reggie.”
In Breesus' name we play
by Breesus Christ Superstar on Jul 9, 2011 3:20 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
oh man
this works on so many levels…
Thumbs up, everybody...
For rock and roll!!!!
by Hans Petersen on Jul 9, 2011 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Take a look at Roman Harper on this play. I want you to see why this guy has frequent flyer miles stretching from here to Honolulu every year. It’s because of plays like this. This is Turner the Burner taking the handoff from Matty Ice. Business as usual, right? Wait! Did you see that? Let’s back that up a couple of frames. What the hell is this bolt of black and gold lightning shooting in down here? Who is this Tuscaloosa Torpedo? Ever read a comic book when you were little? If you did, you sure didn’t see anything like this. And you wouldn’t have seen it here, had I not pointed it out. That’s strong safety Roman Harper launching himself at Turner’s ankles. Now, I know what you’re thinking. Big deal. He whiffed. Which is true. But look at the moment of hesitation Harper’s whiff causes. Turner doesn’t know whether to spin, jump, juke, giggle or wind his watch. So, what does he do? He runs straight through the A gap … BAM! right into the waiting arms of Scott Shanle, eight yards upfield. That’s the sort of selfless athleticism I see all written all over this Harper fellow. He puts the action in chain reaction and you just saw a dynamic example of that right there.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
by coldpizza on Jul 9, 2011 3:57 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
his rareness is fine
and his fineness is rare
Thumbs up, everybody...
For rock and roll!!!!
by Hans Petersen on Jul 9, 2011 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions
just sign at the bottom of this form please, ma'am
Thumbs up, everybody...
For rock and roll!!!!
by Hans Petersen on Jul 9, 2011 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Words are usually inspired by pictures.
by snowboard_kat on Jul 9, 2011 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Is it just me or
does anyone else get the feeling that Gruden would LOVE to replace SP as the Saints’ head coach!
Should we (heaven forbid) lose Sean for any reason, how do you think Jon would be as a replacement:
1. Perfect
2. Adequate
3. Below average
4. Totally bad choice
5. What’s his wife look like
Fat, dumb, and happy. Hell, two out of three ain't bad!
I Want To Die In My Sleep Like My Grandpa – Not Screaming and Yelling Like His Passengers.
by Just 'Nother Day on Jul 9, 2011 9:54 PM CDT reply actions
Somewhere between 1 and 2… slightly closer to 1. :-) i.e. We’d win a bunch of games, but not sure I’d call him ‘perfect’.
"It's more than a handful. It's a handsful."
i'm with you
not perfect but you won’t find a better fit really. Love how he gushes over us. It makes me blush and giggle lol
Let's have a 2011 season. Get a deal done
by skinnykinney on Jul 10, 2011 3:08 AM CDT up reply actions
Good coach. Terrible at amassing talent through the draft. Only able to find talent in nearly washed up FA veterans. Not a coach for long term success.
In Breesus' name we play
by Breesus Christ Superstar on Jul 10, 2011 8:01 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm with you
Like his enthusiasm. And unlike BC Super* below I don’t believe, and I may be wrong, Gasp, I don’t believe Gruden was so bad @ amassing talent as his hands were tied in Tampa. Also as long as Loomis stays he would be fine in this category.
INGRAMANIA equals LOMBARDI 2012
by cajuncommando58 on Jul 10, 2011 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions
opps above not below
INGRAMANIA equals LOMBARDI 2012
by cajuncommando58 on Jul 10, 2011 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions
He had the same problem in oakland
In Breesus' name we play
by Breesus Christ Superstar on Jul 10, 2011 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions
His hands were tied there, too. His hands would be tied anywhere but in New Orleans. Because we’re special.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
lol
In Breesus' name we play
by Breesus Christ Superstar on Jul 10, 2011 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Any coach in Oakland hands are tied
And AL holds the rope.
INGRAMANIA equals LOMBARDI 2012
by cajuncommando58 on Jul 11, 2011 12:44 AM CDT up reply actions
Hope he never leaves, but if Payton would not be here I’d love Gruden to be the coach. The way the Saints are playing now, I bet if the job would be available, he’d be packing his bags now and getting ready to head to New Orleans.
I've always liked old "Chucky."
Both of them!
Fat, dumb, and happy. Hell, two out of three ain't bad!
I Want To Die In My Sleep Like My Grandpa – Not Screaming and Yelling Like His Passengers.
by Just 'Nother Day on Jul 10, 2011 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions
I hear ya.
I could see a Gruden obsession kicking in…
by snowboard_kat on Jul 11, 2011 6:36 AM CDT up reply actions
hmmm
well i did coach a team once (my sons soccer team). does that count?
"If you ask ME, though, any game without push-ups, hits, burns or noogies is a sissy game" Calvin to Hobbes
LOL. Seems to be more of an NFL coach appeal…
by snowboard_kat on Jul 11, 2011 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions
Breesus Christ Superstarlet has a thing for Gruden. Took her to a Saints game against the Bucs and Gruden was all she watched.
In Breesus' name we play
by Breesus Christ Superstar on Jul 11, 2011 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions
meh, he’s OK… too pretty for my taste :)
…though everyone gets instantly hotter in black and gold.
by snowboard_kat on Jul 11, 2011 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions

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