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Golden Words From Golden Boy Jon Gruden

What happens when the verbose and straight-talking (while ultimately not actually saying much) Jon Gruden (of Monday Night Football and Jon Gruden's QB Camp) collides with the esteemed and legacy-filled Manning Passing Academy?

Well, it turned out to be a quote-a-palooza beyond my wildest dreams. 

Thank you Jeff Duncan (no, that's the wrong Jeff Duncan. Try this one. Still a bit off...how's this Jeff Duncan? That's the one.), for posting this meeting with the media Jon Gruden presided over when at the Manning Passing Academy on Friday.

Make the jump for some choice selections along with my snide commentary...

Star-divide

First of all, I was surprised to find out that Gruden's son, Jon II, is not only attending the Manning's camp, but further digging (via wikipedia) revealed that his nickname is "Deuce", for pete's sake! How about that?

The loquacious analyst for "Monday Night Football" met with the media on Friday at the Manning Passing Academy, where his son is a first-time camper, and touched on a variety of topics concerning the Saints.

Gruden discusses the receivers without even mentioning Marques Colston...

All of them are highly underrated, because they are very unselfish. You see Lance Moore do some things in the slot which are terrific. You see him block, which doesn't show up on the stat sheet. You see (Devery) Henderson and (Robert) Meachem blazing down the field. They're never going to finish in the top 10 (in the league in receptions). They're not catch counters in New Orleans. They're into winning football games.

I like that "catch counters" phrase.

Gruden definitely loves him some Jimmy Graham (and who doesn't?) and seems well-prepared to gush over Graham when we appear on MNF:

How can you not like him? Who saw that coming? That guy in the red zone, was not only a weapon for them, but he's really established himself as a force with what he can do in different alignments. I saw Payton line him up at receiver and (at other times) bring him out of the backfield. The guy can really create some matchup problems for you.

When discussing the debate of "is it the system or the players" of the Saints offensive prowess, he drops this doozy about Lance Moore (emphasis mine):

Throw in Lance Moore a quick slot receiver, who has the body language of an All-Pro.

Jon, what does that even mean?

Next, it's clear that Gruden has a terminal case of INGRAMANIA!!!

I love the pick. Ingram, he's my kind of back. He's a finisher. He's a punishing back. He can close out games. I think you need a guy when you have the ball and the lead inside of four minutes to run clock, that that's the only enemy. I think Ingram's that kind of guy. I think he's an NFL back. He can pick up blitz flush. I've seen him do it. He's a pretty good receiver out the backfield. He's going to make a lot of big first downs for the Saints in key situations. I really like him.

Can anyone tell me what a blitz flush is? Jon's seen it, but I haven't.

From Gruden's take on the Saints 2010 running game:

I'm watching the film, Ladell Betts is playing one game, (Chris) Ivory's playing another game. I went to Dayton. I know where Tiffin (College) is. He's starting for the New Orleans Saints as a rookie. And he did a heckuva job, and then he got hurt. I see Julius Jones playing. That's five backs I've named.

Really? Five? I counted three. Now maybe Duncan clipped your quote a bit, but...we will never know, so I retract that dig. Good thing Jon went to Dayton and knows where Tiffin College is, otherwise I'd feel he's completely unqualified to comment on the Saints running game or Tusk.

Gruden goes on to share his thoughts on the Saints 2011 prospects, and I implore you to read the whole thing on nola.com if you haven't already, and then drop some delicious commentary into the comment section below, either criticizing, questioning, or expounding on what Jon said above.

With one caveat...do it in your best GRUDENSPEAK, please. Let's have fun with this!

As Just 'Nother Day said so sweetly in another thread...Are you prepared for some football? I know I am.

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That was good. Gruden talked. I said that. But he’s great!

"I have something no one else has: my brain. Which I use to my advantage, when advantageous."

by GRlZZ on Jul 9, 2011 11:37 AM CDT reply actions  

But really, I don’t know what it is, but when he talks and you’re listening he sounds like a genius..but when you actually read the stuff…sheesh!

"I have something no one else has: my brain. Which I use to my advantage, when advantageous."

by GRlZZ on Jul 9, 2011 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

agreed

if he’s talking he could tell me that the best thing that could have happened to a player was get a concussion in a game and play through it and i’d probably believe him. Then I’d read it and be like this guy is crazy! Also, he doesn’t ever seem to get straight to the point. It takes alot of words for him to get the point across and i can definetly relate to that sometimes

Let's have a 2011 season. Get a deal done

by skinnykinney on Jul 10, 2011 3:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

Gruden talks highly of the Saints

which is cool. Yeah, he didn’t mention Colston, I ain’t mad at him. But its easy to leave someone out, our WR corps aren’t exactly household names, outside SaintNation. He also mentioned the loss of Graham and Jenkins for the Sea. gm. The Manning camp, was held at my alma mater Se.La.U, for years, at what was called (by students) “Strawberry Field” (for those Beatles fans) its actually Strawberry Stadium. Maybe the contract was up, lower rate, so they moved to Nicholls State.

You think you know, and you don't know, and you never, ever, will.-Jim Mora Sr.
I understand ....nothing.-Michael Scott
The Future is Unwritten.-Joe Strummer
"I don't dance to DIdo dude"-Tommy Saxondale

by metryman on Jul 9, 2011 12:15 PM CDT reply actions  

Gruden talks glowingly about every player and team in the league. I wouldn’t sleep with him just yet.

"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Jul 9, 2011 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I've noticed, esp. QB's

You think you know, and you don't know, and you never, ever, will.-Jim Mora Sr.
I understand ....nothing.-Michael Scott
The Future is Unwritten.-Joe Strummer
"I don't dance to DIdo dude"-Tommy Saxondale

by metryman on Jul 9, 2011 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

boom REC'd it!

Thumbs up, everybody...
For rock and roll!!!!

by Hans Petersen on Jul 9, 2011 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

No wonder kat likes you so much. You don’t speak glowingly about anyone.

Maybe MARY JANE will load up and pass the PEACE PIPE around the conference room and they’ll all get happy in a big hurry, which might just help speed up the process. - HansDat

by cscmember on Jul 9, 2011 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

GRUDENSPEAK I love that one...

GRUDENSPEAK

Man I love that term. To understand Grunden you must know GRUDENSPEAK!
You have to understand what he is meaning by not understanding what he is saying. Should be include in the new Webster Dictionary under NFL-isms .
and under the C in their Pictorial Dictionary

INGRAMANIA equals LOMBARDI 2012

by cajuncommando58 on Jul 9, 2011 12:36 PM CDT reply actions  

and that's even better when you read cc58's comments in Gruden's voice

hearing him in your head, talking about himself is pretty WILD

like a wildcat…not a Kentucky Wildcat, but an Arizona Wildcat. You know, one of those Stoops brothers, Mike, I think his name is, coaches out there in the desert, and they are thirsty for wins. He’s coached that team to three straight bowl games so he knows something about drinking the blood of your vanquished foes, kinda like those Twilight kids up in Oregon. Do you know about Oregon? I’ve been there and Belotti bleeds just like you and me…

Thumbs up, everybody...
For rock and roll!!!!

by Hans Petersen on Jul 9, 2011 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ahh... you did catch that

and that’s even better when you read cc58’s comments in Gruden’s voice

INGRAMANIA equals LOMBARDI 2012

by cajuncommando58 on Jul 9, 2011 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

FANTASTIC!!!

that’s what I’m talkin’ bout

Thumbs up, everybody...
For rock and roll!!!!

by Hans Petersen on Jul 9, 2011 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol awsome

Let's have a 2011 season. Get a deal done

by skinnykinney on Jul 10, 2011 3:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

oh man

this works on so many levels…

Thumbs up, everybody...
For rock and roll!!!!

by Hans Petersen on Jul 9, 2011 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL you are in rare form today.

by snowboard_kat on Jul 9, 2011 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

his rareness is fine

and his fineness is rare

Thumbs up, everybody...
For rock and roll!!!!

by Hans Petersen on Jul 9, 2011 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Your story inspired me.

"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Jul 9, 2011 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Words are usually inspired by pictures.

by snowboard_kat on Jul 9, 2011 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Your 1,000 word story painted a picture, which in turn inspired me.

"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Jul 9, 2011 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like when you get “inspired.”

by snowboard_kat on Jul 9, 2011 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Geologists call it “petrifaction”.

"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Jul 9, 2011 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Beautiful...

Roman for President!

Repeat? Under construction...

by FrenchFreak on Jul 9, 2011 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

At least Gruden isn’t as bad as Emmitt Smith..

"I have something no one else has: my brain. Which I use to my advantage, when advantageous."

by GRlZZ on Jul 9, 2011 7:04 PM CDT reply actions  

I think I’m going to be sick

Maybe MARY JANE will load up and pass the PEACE PIPE around the conference room and they’ll all get happy in a big hurry, which might just help speed up the process. - HansDat

by cscmember on Jul 9, 2011 9:16 PM CDT reply actions  

Is it just me or

does anyone else get the feeling that Gruden would LOVE to replace SP as the Saints’ head coach!

Should we (heaven forbid) lose Sean for any reason, how do you think Jon would be as a replacement:

1. Perfect
2. Adequate
3. Below average
4. Totally bad choice
5. What’s his wife look like

Fat, dumb, and happy. Hell, two out of three ain't bad!

I Want To Die In My Sleep Like My Grandpa – Not Screaming and Yelling Like His Passengers.

by Just 'Nother Day on Jul 9, 2011 9:54 PM CDT reply actions  

Somewhere between 1 and 2… slightly closer to 1. :-) i.e. We’d win a bunch of games, but not sure I’d call him ‘perfect’.

"It's more than a handful. It's a handsful."

by Dan Kelly on Jul 10, 2011 1:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

i'm with you

not perfect but you won’t find a better fit really. Love how he gushes over us. It makes me blush and giggle lol

Let's have a 2011 season. Get a deal done

by skinnykinney on Jul 10, 2011 3:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

Good coach. Terrible at amassing talent through the draft. Only able to find talent in nearly washed up FA veterans. Not a coach for long term success.

In Breesus' name we play

by Breesus Christ Superstar on Jul 10, 2011 8:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm with you

Like his enthusiasm. And unlike BC Super* below I don’t believe, and I may be wrong, Gasp, I don’t believe Gruden was so bad @ amassing talent as his hands were tied in Tampa. Also as long as Loomis stays he would be fine in this category.

INGRAMANIA equals LOMBARDI 2012

by cajuncommando58 on Jul 10, 2011 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

He had the same problem in oakland

In Breesus' name we play

by Breesus Christ Superstar on Jul 10, 2011 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

His hands were tied there, too. His hands would be tied anywhere but in New Orleans. Because we’re special.

"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Jul 10, 2011 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Any coach in Oakland hands are tied

And AL holds the rope.

INGRAMANIA equals LOMBARDI 2012

by cajuncommando58 on Jul 11, 2011 12:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hope he never leaves, but if Payton would not be here I’d love Gruden to be the coach. The way the Saints are playing now, I bet if the job would be available, he’d be packing his bags now and getting ready to head to New Orleans.

by tommy v on Jul 10, 2011 11:35 AM CDT reply actions  

I've always liked old "Chucky."

Both of them!

Fat, dumb, and happy. Hell, two out of three ain't bad!

I Want To Die In My Sleep Like My Grandpa – Not Screaming and Yelling Like His Passengers.

by Just 'Nother Day on Jul 10, 2011 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hear ya.
I could see a Gruden obsession kicking in…

by snowboard_kat on Jul 11, 2011 6:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

hmmm

well i did coach a team once (my sons soccer team). does that count?

"If you ask ME, though, any game without push-ups, hits, burns or noogies is a sissy game" Calvin to Hobbes

by maybetoday on Jul 11, 2011 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

LOL. Seems to be more of an NFL coach appeal…

by snowboard_kat on Jul 11, 2011 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

The money helps, Im sure.

Maybe MARY JANE will load up and pass the PEACE PIPE around the conference room and they’ll all get happy in a big hurry, which might just help speed up the process. - HansDat

by cscmember on Jul 11, 2011 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Breesus Christ Superstarlet has a thing for Gruden. Took her to a Saints game against the Bucs and Gruden was all she watched.

In Breesus' name we play

by Breesus Christ Superstar on Jul 11, 2011 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

meh, he’s OK… too pretty for my taste :)
…though everyone gets instantly hotter in black and gold.

by snowboard_kat on Jul 11, 2011 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

(CP runs to the bathroom with buckets of black and gold body paint)

"I have something no one else has: my brain. Which I use to my advantage, when advantageous."

by GRlZZ on Jul 11, 2011 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

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