Star Caps Suit Update - Could Will Smith Avoid Suspension?

If you break a law that no longer exists, can you still be punished for it?

Have they changed the CBA to protect players from StarCaps-gate?

Is there no provision in the new CBA for “StarCaps” and starcaps-like substances?

He throws out articles heaped in speculation a lot. It would be great if possible, but I have no doubt Herr Goodell and the league are determined to enforce these suspensions if for no other reason than pure spite after the three years of seemingly endless legal battles and public scrutiny of the BS league “gotcha” system that first started this whole mess. I’m still pissed at how that all went down. Remember, Deuce had the supplement approved by the league a year earlier and then the league became aware that a banned substance later appeared in the mix and didn’t inform the players. It was a trap game meant to make examples of people.

I’m to the point where I just want Smith to miss his four games so we can just finally move on from this. Justice is something only the mega-rich can afford.

whats going on with nesbit’s suit? he lost his starting job over it…

so if either of the people in my picture to the right actually killed somebody (which, clearly, they did not), but then the law changed to allow people to murder each other….. does that mean they could not be convicted. i very much so doubt it. mike florio is no lawyer.

There are several players who are currently waiting for reinstatement due violating the league substance abuse policy in the past. Two players specifically are the following:

Johnny Jolly Packers DL: Violated the league substance abuse policy and is suspended indefinitely 7/26/2011

Tanard Jackson Carolina DB: Violated the league substance abuse policy, as a result his return if reinstatement is granted by the NFL, would be no earlier than week 3.

If the NFL grants an exemption to the Star Caps situation, which already was won by the NFL in court, the league would have to automatically reinstate the two players mentioned above if those players wished it.

Floro’s argument that a NEW CBA exists does not hold any water in this situation. It sounds nice, but the reality of the situation dictates differently.

If you make an exemption for the violation of substance abuse policy since it is a new CBA, I for one would think that everyone that has violated the leagues behavior policy would be able to jump into the same category as the druggies.

I understand that the Star Caps case i unique, but to make exception to the policy would open up the flood gates for additional litigation that the league would not want now.

Bottom line: Will Smith, I love you, I fell for you, I think you are in a crappy situation, and I am going to miss you for 4 games.

Haven’t discussed plenary indulgence in almost a week. Funny it should come up here.

I say “may” because I didn’t actually read the article (no apologies…it’s Florio). But I would bet that Florio’s contention isn’t that the NFL is going to just give in and let Smith play, but that Smith now has a plausible argument to bring before a court. It could gain him an injunction, if nothing else, before he serves his suspension.

If Smith does bring a court action against the NFL, it would have no effect whatsoever on any other suspensions. Those would have to be adjudicated separately, likely by a separate court, unless the NFLPA brought the case in order to dispute ALL suspensions. In which case, I agree that the NFL might just throw up their hands, say “ah, f*** it,” and hit the reset button.

Just get it over with

If anything, they may pursue this more vigorously now. Because the new CBA was drafted while the NFLPA was decertified as a union, they were not able to negotiate certain items, like drug testing policy. I can’t imagine that the league would weaken their bargaining position on drug testing by forgiving/forgetting past infractions.

This is all much too complex for me to comprehend.

to allow players to take starcaps. Starcaps had some kind of “masking” chemical in it that would mask steroids. Now, the players didn’t know it was in there(which if it isn’t on the label then i don’t think they deserve the suspenion) when they took it, or at least that is what they’re claiming. If they haven’t changed the drug policy and it’s still on the banned list of things to take then nothing is going to change. Just because a judge is replaced by a new one doesn’t mean that all the ppl that the 1st judge sent to jail will be let go. If starcaps aren’t on the banned list then they have a chance, not a very good one imo, but still a chance of not being suspended.

is that some companies will put “proprietary blend” on there to protect from other companies knowing the ingredients and duplicating the product. So, the NFL’s position is that if it’s in your urine test, you’re guilty even if it’s not on the label. The bad thing about this instance is that the NFL knew there was a problem with this product ahead of time but never told the players. They knew players would unknowingly test positive and remained silent which is the lowest of lows especially since these unamed substances could have caused health problems to atheletes.

miketripletttp Mike Triplett

RT @leeweezy8: Is Will smith gonna have to sit out 4 games this year? … NFL still has not announced decision, but its’ still likely.

the CBA provisions they violated expired with the old CBA.

Doesn’t matter one little bit.
The provisions were in place and active when they were violated.

Gotta consider the source of this.
Florio/PFT.
’Nuff said!