Accountability Index Update-Camp

by stujo4 on Aug 11, 2011 3:52 PM CDT

Need to get some of these items put to bed.

Date	Name	Assertion	Remarks	Resolution
Jul 19 2011	Jimbo3 Dan Kelly David "Satch" Kelly St Jenkins Billy Gomila lovingmma25 Dang Hu Dat Fat Punk Kicker	Expressed disbelief that Drew Brees would ask for lifetime exemption from franchise tag as part of the CBA	Or, "God, I hope this is false."	There IS a God. Looks like the NFLPA lawyers asked for it without Brees' knowledge. Oh well, it was fun while it lasted. Again, my apologies to Drew Brees and his agent, Tom Condon.
Aug 8 2011	jeff	Jimmy Graham's 2011 season will not be better than Shockey's 2009 season	He just needs to stop dropping passes and stay healthy.
Aug 3 2011	Northfan	Saints go 5-1 in division, lose @Tampa 15-1 blah blah	That's not blind optimism, that's Helen Keller optimism.
Aug 3 2011	hansdat	Bucs will go at least 11-5 and push us for the division title	Well, that's possible.
Aug 3 2011	hansdat	Atlanta will hit 9-7 (Julio will fail miserably, and Ryan will do worse than 2010 in passer rating)	Disclaimer: Hans is a Saints fan.
Aug 4 2011	coldpizza	Tarvaris Jackson goes .500 in 2011 if he starts an even number of games greater than zero	This is also possible. I think.
Aug 4 2011	stujo4	Tarvaris Jackson starts Game One in 2011	TJAX!!!!
Aug 4 2011	Breesus Christ Superstar	Seahawks go under .500 in 2011	I sense some subjective analysis here.
Jul 31 2011	Preston J. Gary, Jr.	Plaxico Burress will probably start game one, and play a significant amount of snaps	Jets are calling Derrick Mason the starter.
Jul 13 2011	Preston J. Gary, Jr.	Jimmy Graham: 10 TD's in 2011	Wouldn't that be nice?
Jul 15 2011	coldpizza	Objects to Rotoworld's statement that Danny Amendola will return as the starter in the slot.	They're still doing it!! GAAA!!!
Jul 15 2011	Jon Banks GRIZZ Dan Kelly cscmember Jay Preece Just 'Nother Day	Very impressed with Shaun Rogers' career even before he became a Saint	Not sure why this is on here. I guess I thought he was just a FF and wouldn't amount to much. Its not trending that way.
Apr 29 2011	were gonna need a bigger boat Jeff Duncan	Louisville lovers love Johnny Patrick	I'll need to see some preseason action before I can become a Johnny Lover.
Apr 29 2011 Jun 8 2011	xen-cuts were gonna need a bigger boat Andrew Juge	Ingram pick cost too much with too much risk. Overrated, potential bust.	I think they were thinking of Mikel Leshoure.
May 1 2011	xen-cuts	Ingram scores only 2 to 4 TD's IF he makes the team.	So Pierre and Lance get the rest? Teetering on the precipice here.
May 1 2011	Hi_Fidelity	Ingram has injury concerns, may not have been the best running back prospect in the draft, and doesn't represent a great upgrade over Thomas/Ivory. and when you consider the price, it was a bad pick unless Ingram puts his butt in the Pro Bowl multiple times or keys another Super Bowl run.	I don't think we'll need multiple pro bowls to prove this wrong. Turn off your mind, relax and surrender to INGRAMANIA!!
Jul 6 2011	coldpizza stujo4	Ingram starts more games than Jordan in 2011	Seems like a lock.
Jul 12 2011	skinnykinney	Ingram DOES NOT start more games than Jordan in 2011	Somebody's got JORDANMANIA!!
Apr 28 2011	HansDat	Morstead and 2011 Saints will set NFL record for fewest punts and team record for 6 games without a punt	Hans might have turned off his mind and relaxed a bit too much here.
Mar 17 2011	stujo4 Breesus Christ Superstar Northfan	NFL CBA will be signed before any 2011 games are lost	Cut it kinda close.	I'm sure we all meant regular season games. I'm counting this as a win.
Mar 4 2011	Ranger565	Saints RB's: 1. PT 2. Chris Ivory 3. Reggie 4. Hamilton	Ouch. TUSK!!! is probably PUP'd, Reggie is traded and PhotoOp is a ghost.	And Pierre is probably not going to start. Let's end this mercifully.
Apr 24 2011	MtnExile	Thinks our run game will be Top 5.	If they stay healthy and Payton balances his play calls, right?
Jan 9 2011	Bob Marshall, T-P	Saints To-Do List: Don't rest on your laurels	Time to settle this.
	BM, cont'd	Get a pass rush.	Shaun Rogers, Aubrayo Franklin, Cam Jordan	We'll see if this works.
	BM, cont'd	Find an elite deep threat.	Adrian Arrington would be the only add on here.	Meachem = chopped liver?
	BM, cont'd	Find more running backs	INGRAMANIA!! SPROLIES!!!	BOOM!! Marking this one complete.
	BM, cont'd tlsk1066	Overhaul your return and coverage teams.	tlsk thinks this got done with Johnny Patrick and Nate Bussey. We'll see.	Roby is back too.
Jan 10 2011	Satch saint-sly	NFL players and owners will reach an agreement by March and all will continue as normal provided they drop the 18-game schedule idea.	Missed it. Satch regroups and predicts we'll miss no more than 2 preseason games.	Boom, done. Hall of Fame game doesn't count.
Jan 14 2011	VAsaintsfan	Skeptical of Denver Post's statement that Kyle Orton is likely to be traded in the offseason	This went back and forth all year.... until they saw Tebow's first practice. Then they realized they wouldn't have a QB if they traded Orton.	VAsaintsfan is correct. Orton is not going anywhere for now.
Jan 16 2011	Jeff Duncan	To Do List: Sign Brees
	cont'd	Reggie-pay cut/trade/cut	This took an extraordinary turn.	In an unlikely trade.
	cont'd	Cut Shockey-keep Graham/D Thomas	Done	And done.
	cont'd	Cut Kyle/Gay, keep Dresher/P-Rob	Kyle and Gay cut.	Gay might return. Or not.
	cont'd	Retain Bushrod, Harper, Moore, P Thomas	All done	Fans' response is mixed on some of these.
	cont'd	Shanle, Ayodele, Hargrove-Paycut or cut	"Now starting at linebacker for your New Orleans Saints...."	Shanle signed. Ayodele skips to the Wikings, Hargrove to the Eagles.
	cont'd	Goodwin, Evans, Strief, Charleston, Prioleau, Torrence-release, resign at Saints' leisure	Gootwin & Evans gone.	Strief, Charleston, Prioleau and Torrence all return, for now. (We got camp bodies in competition!)
	cont'd	(Tennant replaces Goodwin, Casillas replaces Shanle)	Tennant backburnered with the addition of Kreutz. This might take another year.	Casillas needs to step it up.
	cont'd	Draft a DE to help Will Smith	Cameron Jordan	boom done, we'll see how much help he is
	cont'd	Free agency niceties- young fullback, reserve interior OL, K/P returner	See ya, Heath Evans.	I don't know, I guess this is covered. Can Sproles return kicks or just punts?
	cont'd	Educate and overhaul TUSK!	Don't know about the education, but the overhaul is turning into a long term project.	About to start the season on the PUP list.
Jul 12 2011	coldpizza	Strief gets re-signed by the Saints before Bushrod	Close enough to be meaningless.	Bushrod signed July 28, Strief on August 1.
Apr 28 2011	stujo4	Whoever drafts Da'Quan Bowers will see him balloon up during the inevitable rehab	This is not happening, I was wrong. At least, for THIS rehab. Will he make it through his rookie season? Holding this open in case of catastrophe.
May 1 2011	GSO Saints Fan	The Falcons will begin a steep decline based on this draft.	Julio Jones looks awesome.
May 1 2011	were gonna need a bigger boat	Martez Wilson, not Mark Ingram, makes the biggest impact of all rookies this season.	Wilson's had a pretty quiet camp, hasn't he?
May 2 2011	coldpizza	Three NFC South teams with double digit win totals in 2011.	Why didn't he just say Saints, Falcons, Bucs?
May 2 2011	Northfan	Wilson probably has the best chance of our drafted rookies to win Rookie of the Year	He didn't say "...in the NFL" so technically, he's still got a chance.
May 2 2011	tommy	Junior Galette will be a starter this year	He's got to make the team first.
May 9 2011	coldpizza	2011 RB's: Ingram, Thomas, Ivory, J Bell. Bush gets cut outright prior to training camp	The crystal ball had a little smudge on it, Reggie was traded before camp. Leaving this open to see if The Joiquer can prevail.
May 4 2011	skinnykinney	Ingram won't have more than 3 games with 13+ carries	I heard that humble pie tastes like dog poop.
May 4 2011	coldpizza	Ingram will have 8 games with 13+ carries & 50%+ more rushing yards than teammates	Mikel Leshoure would have done the same if Mickey had read his incoming faxes on draft day and Leshoure's Achilles hadn't snapped.
May 4 2011	jray2000	Martez Wilson will be the best overall performer of our draft class	Déjà vu. That's French for "You smoke too much dope."
May 11 2011	Andrew Juge Saint for life Andrew Juge again Saint for Life again	Heath Evans will probably/def be on the opening day roster	Oh, you meant on the NFL Network? Well why didn't you say so?	Bunch of Heath lovers.
May 13 2011	Preston J. Gary, Jr.	Saints will pursue Rocky McIntosh and Barry Cofield	If by "pursue" you mean "If you want to come to camp without any guarantees of any kind, that's fine, whatever", then I think you nailed it.	They signed with somebody but I'm not looking it up.
Jun 2 2011	jeff	Doesn't believe A Arrington will be a regular rotation receiver In 2011	jeff, ever the skeptic. But I tend to agree. He's got a very slight build. AA, I mean. jeff could stand to lose a few.
Jun 18 2011	tommy	PhotoOp makes the roster	So sorry, tommy.	If Ingram pops an Achilles, Rita could give Lynell a call, sure.
April 18 2011	stujo4	Scott Shanle will return to the Saints in 2011	LunchPale ain't skeered of Casillas, Herrring, or Clint Ingram.	Now, will he start on opening day?
Aug 1 2011	tstuart77	Shanle plays SAM-and presumably starts	That's what I'm talkin' ‘bout. Not that I like it. I'm just reading Gdub's mind.
Jan 21 2011	bondcrash	OT Charles Brown is the starter by Sep 2011	He's practicing and doing well, I heard. But he'll have to stay healthy.
Aug 1 2011	bondcrash	Strief will give Stinchcomb a run for his money and start at RT	I don't know what "run for his money" means. Like, steal out of his locker? We're going to need to be more specific, guys.
Nov 2 2010	Stujo4	The over thrown would be TD pass to Strief in week 8 of 2010 indicates Brees' QB career peaked in 2009	I'll draw a picture for you in a couple of years. It'll kinda look like this: \ .\__ . \ . \__ . \
Jul 14 2011	Satch	Drew Brees will prove he is not in decline by throwing less than 10 interceptions and winning the league MVP award	In 2011, presumably. The >10 might be harder than the MVP.
Jul 14 2011	Satch	Pierre Thomas will lead the team for the season in rushing yards and rushing TDs	Satch, you found the peyote in the New Mexico desert, didn't you?
Jul 14 2011	Satch	Darren Sharper won't play another snap for the Saints	Down to the wire on this one, but not looking good for Sharper.
May 14 2010	VAsaintsfan	Condemned Ricky Williams draft day trade, applauded Tebow draft day trade	Hey, Ricky's going to play for the Ravens this year. While Tim Tebow sits on the bench behind Orton. it's a completely different thing than the shotgun. Tebow is stiff under center and can't make decisions quickly enough.
May 17 2010	Frenchie	Believes Payton was addicted to Vicodin and Loomis aided cover-up	Need to get this off of here before we get sued.	I'm calling it. Unless they go to rehab, this is a closed chapter.
Jul 2 2011	Preston J. Gary, Jr.	Shaun Rogers will make a big impact on defense for the Saints in 2011.	I underestimated the Big Ass Baby Huey or whatever he's called. But let's wait and see if he falls on Ingram in practice and tears his Achilles.
Jul 11 2011	coldpizza	Shaun Rogers in 2011: 2-3 sacks tops	Seems about right.
Jul 12 2011	coldpizza	At least two teams with a new starting QB will make the playoffs this year. At least one of those new QBs will be a rookie	I need a pencil and paper to make sense of this. You mean, like, Christian Ponder?
Jul 18 2011	Len Pasquarelli	Between signing bonus and 2011 salary, Bush will be 'made whole' on the $11.8 million, or close to it, but the odds are it won't be in New Orleans.	Signed a two-year, $9.75 million contract with Miami. The deal included a $2.5 million signing bonus. 2011: $2.5 million, 2012: $4.5 million (+ $275,000 workout bonus)	I thought "made whole" meant he'd get all of it. He didn't get all of it and certainly didn't get it all this year.
Jul 2 2011	Preston J. Gary, Jr.	If Reggie stays, he will have a more impactful season than his rookie year and the offense will be more dangerous than in 2009.	He didn't stay.	You wanna double down and say it applies in Miami?
Jun 23 2011	Jeff Duncan	Chances of being a Saint in 2011: Reggie 30-40% Lance 80-90%	Correct on both.	I think he might have just guessed on those odds, though.
May 4 2011	TAYDIGGA	Reggie's new contract will be at least $4 million a year, traded or restructured	It is.	I wish him well in Miami.
May 3 2011	stujo4	Reggie needs to have a good camp, or PayLoo will cut him without a contract offer.	I don't know what kind of camp he's having.	I think the Daniel Thomas kid will put a kink in Reggie's plans.
Mar 22 2011	coldpizza	Reggie will not sign a new contract prior to mid-August 2011	Well technically, he didn't sign a contract with the Saints.	Signed with the Dolphins on July 28
June 11 2010	coldpizza	CP thinks PT and Reggie both gone in 2011	Only half way there.	I'm closing this. PT will sit behind Ingram.
May 20 2011	stujo4	Reggie will retire having played all his NFL games as a Saint.	I let my emotions get the better of me.	I'm trying not to cry.
Jul 26 2011	Steve Forbes	US will return to the gold standard within 5 years	Teddy Roosevelt style pince nez eyeglasses will come back into style first.

Poll

Stujo4 is a:

clever, funny guy

13 votes

self-centered douche bag (how many times can I vote?)

12 votes

hamburger lover

6 votes

31 votes | Poll has closed

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coldpizza will say I stole his Helen Keller gag, but I wrote that the day before he used it in a comment here and I thought “CP’s going to think I stole his Helen Keller gag.” That’s my story and I’m sticking with it.

The Drew Brees graph looked a lot better in Word.

Try to realize it's all within yourself
No one else can make you change

by stujo4 on Aug 11, 2011 3:56 PM CDT reply actions

Awesome!

Can’t wait to see how many I got right! I still believe in my Pierre Thomas prediction. I hope Ingram not only proves me wrong but makes me out to be an absolute idiot. My ego can take the hit.

"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!

by David "Satch" Kelly on Aug 11, 2011 4:11 PM CDT reply actions

Me too Stu, Me too...

I think he won’t disappoint us.

On to da next one!

by TAYDIGGA on Aug 11, 2011 5:49 PM CDT reply actions

I seem to remember asking you to put me on the list

That Reggie would be traded. Why no love?

Peyton, I can eat Oreos faster than you!!!!

by mknkachow on Aug 11, 2011 8:38 PM CDT reply actions

Yeah, I remember that too

“Asking” doesn’t do it. You have to provoke me. Which you did here. But I guess you did such a good job that I didn’t List it. So I apologized for being wrong here. It’s not a perfect science.

Try to realize it's all within yourself
No one else can make you change

by stujo4 on Aug 11, 2011 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions

Fair enough

Peyton, I can eat Oreos faster than you!!!!

by mknkachow on Aug 11, 2011 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions

I'm sure

It’s hard to keep track of all these predictions

Peyton, I can eat Oreos faster than you!!!!

by mknkachow on Aug 11, 2011 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions

I remember that convo too...I wasn't sure what would happen.

But hey…Ingram does look beastly, can’t deny it. I wonder what Payton is going to do, I maintain he’s going to be 60/40 with pass to run this year.

On to da next one!

by TAYDIGGA on Aug 14, 2011 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions

here's the thing...I'm likely to forget my Aug 3 predictions for Bucs/Falcons

please remind me if I pop off later in the season in a contradictory manner to what I said on Aug 3

Thumbs up, everybody...
For rock and roll!!!!

by Hans Petersen on Aug 11, 2011 9:15 PM CDT reply actions

as always, nice work, Stu

I always enjoy reading this…

and I always chuckle at my silly special teams prediction – Ha!

Thumbs up, everybody...
For rock and roll!!!!

by Hans Petersen on Aug 11, 2011 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions

Thanks for inflating my comments total, Hans. And for voting “Clever, funny guy” That’s 2 votes now, you and me. Versus 6 for douche bag. Unless you protested the name calling by voting for hamburger. That’s ok too.

Try to realize it's all within yourself
No one else can make you change

by stujo4 on Aug 11, 2011 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions

Why isn’t there a burger on every post? The Dave, are you reading?

There's a fine line between love and hate.

by cscmember on Aug 11, 2011 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions

there is

but its like wheres waldo or the bunny on the cover of playboy. ya gotta find it

"If you ask ME, though, any game without push-ups, hits, burns or noogies is a sissy game" Calvin to Hobbes

by maybetoday on Aug 11, 2011 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions

I did vote for clever, funny guy

would have chosen “clever, funny name-caller” but it wasn’t an option

although I did agonize a bit over the meaning (what with the words again and all):

do you mean that choice to mean you are both a clever and funny guy, or perhaps that the feature itself is clever, and you are a funny guy (doesn’t really matter, because I’d have voted for both of them, but you know how I love to parse words/meaning)

Thumbs up, everybody...
For rock and roll!!!!

by Hans Petersen on Aug 13, 2011 7:07 AM CDT up reply actions

or was it to drip with sarcasm and "funny guy" is another name-calling instance

My skills are both a blessing and a curse.

Also, I just BOOM-REC’d the post…

Thumbs up, everybody...
For rock and roll!!!!

by Hans Petersen on Aug 13, 2011 7:09 AM CDT up reply actions

I don’t know what it means, it came out of my head. Ask Dr. Melphi. And happy day after your anniversary, by the way.

Man, you should have seen them kicking Edgar Allen Poe

by stujo4 on Aug 13, 2011 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions

thank you

and I wasn’t really looking for an answer about your meaning – just noodling around with words…

Thumbs up, everybody...
For rock and roll!!!!

by Hans Petersen on Aug 13, 2011 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions

LOL @ Steve Forbes making the list

…gave you clever and funny for that.

by snowboard_kat on Aug 12, 2011 6:55 AM CDT reply actions

…maybe clever and funny douche bag?

by snowboard_kat on Aug 12, 2011 7:43 AM CDT up reply actions

I’ll take it.

It's getting hard to be someone but it all works out, it doesn't matter much to me

by stujo4 on Aug 12, 2011 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions

lol probably the best option ;D

Now that we have a 2011 season let's win the Superbowl!

by skinnykinney on Aug 14, 2011 12:23 AM CDT up reply actions

After last night's preseason game...

You might be a little too tough on Tebow. I don’t know about Denver’s practices but the guy was an accurate passer last night.

"I want to hand this trophy to the MVP of the Super Bowl -- and the MVP of the entire league.''
-- Saints coach Sean Payton, handing the Vince Lombardi Trophy to Drew Brees after Super Bowl 44.

by VAsaintsfan on Aug 12, 2011 7:20 AM CDT reply actions

well, that's one opinion

Tebow had a decent game and looked a lot like he did last season and would be a productive fantasy QB, but I doubt he would win many games. It looks as if he is acting on instinct alone and that can only carry you so far in the NFL. And when he runs he isn’t Michael Vick, he is Mike Tolbert. The dude is going to get hit hard and hit often by some very large men.

It's getting hard to be someone but it all works out, it doesn't matter much to me

by stujo4 on Aug 12, 2011 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions

If instinct alone lets the man complete 85% of his passes then I’ll take it any day of the week.

"I want to hand this trophy to the MVP of the Super Bowl -- and the MVP of the entire league.''
-- Saints coach Sean Payton, handing the Vince Lombardi Trophy to Drew Brees after Super Bowl 44.

by VAsaintsfan on Aug 12, 2011 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions

In one preseason game. You can have all you want of that.

It's getting hard to be someone but it all works out, it doesn't matter much to me

by stujo4 on Aug 12, 2011 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions

here's an opinion by someone who counts

rotoworld.com:

Assessing Tim Tebow’s performance in the preseason opener, Broncos coach John Fox called him “a work in progress.” “Quarterbacking-wise, I thought Kyle (Orton) was sharp and I thought Tim is a work in progress,” Fox said. “[Tebow] made some things happen. He’s learning.” This obviously isn’t a camp battle, but it’s notable that Fox was underwhelmed by a quarterback who completed 6-of-7 passes for 91 yards. We firmly believe Tebow will make starts this year. It just won’t be by design.

It's getting hard to be someone but it all works out, it doesn't matter much to me

by stujo4 on Aug 12, 2011 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions

Joan Walsh can Earn the Bacon, Bring it home, and Fry it up in a pan

your avatars are turning into a who’s who of MSNBC, there’s still Wolffe, Millbank, Alter, just no Michael Steele, WUWT, is he our Alan Colmes?

You think you know, and you don't know, and you never, ever, will.-Jim Mora Sr.
I understand ....nothing.-Michael Scott
The Future is Unwritten.-Joe Strummer
"I don't dance to DIdo dude"-Tommy Saxondale

by metryman on Aug 12, 2011 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions

Notice no Olbermann. Can’t stand Michael Steele.

It's getting hard to be someone but it all works out, it doesn't matter much to me

by stujo4 on Aug 12, 2011 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions

Wolfe sold out for a book deal. Dana Milbank is a weasel. (Sorry, Hans.)

It's getting hard to be someone but it all works out, it doesn't matter much to me

by stujo4 on Aug 12, 2011 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions

Steele aggravates me to no end

but he does look funny as “Mr. Johnson” the Muppet

by metryman on Aug 12, 2011 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions

Do u have the Current Channel?

by metryman on Aug 12, 2011 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions

I do

When are they going HD?

It's getting hard to be someone but it all works out, it doesn't matter much to me

by stujo4 on Aug 12, 2011 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions

workin on it

bringing in a new guy, oh yeah, The Jacksonville Sharks are your Arena Bowl Champions!

by metryman on Aug 12, 2011 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions

Simply to play a devil’s advocate here….i personally could care less about the Tebow/Orton drama….but would you ever actually expect John Fox to come out and lather praise on Tim Tebow after one preseason game even if he felt like Tebow played amazing? (not saying he did…cause he didn’t…had the terrible interception called back because of a penalty etc, etc).

Fox is a good coach and a fairly smart guy. He’ll play his cards close to his chest etc. He can’t afford to alienate Orton by overly praising Tebow, he can’t afford to alienate the somewhat idiot fan base by degrading Tebow either. Additionally…if Tebow ever did get the starting nod…they’d undoubtedly have to trade off Orton. By praising Orton as sharp (even when he wasn’t he missed two passes for TDs but at least didn’t do anything negative) it at least keeps him in a good light for possible trade values as well.

To cap this odd to avoid more listing….Frankly I hope Orton wins and keeps the job. While Orton is not a great QB, he is more than an adequate starter who deserves some credit. He’s more than capable of winning a football game. The issues that Denver has…frankly evolves around the running game and defense…not Orton’s play at QB. Baby Jesus may one day become a decent QB…but this isn’t the day…stay with Orton.

"Winter is coming"

by jeff.l.b on Aug 12, 2011 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions

Pre-reply – in the last paragraph odd = off.

"Winter is coming"

by jeff.l.b on Aug 12, 2011 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions

He can’t afford to alienate Orton

John Fox pretty much alienates everyone but his running backs.

Orton is the one holding all the cards (and not so close to his vest, either). He knows the Broncos need a real QB or risk going 0-16. He gets paid his full contract amount and gets to start.

rotoworld.com:

The Broncos will not release Kyle Orton, according to the Denver Post.
The Broncos would owe Orton $2.9 million in salary on top of his $1.5 million roster bonus if they cut him. In other words, it’s not happening. He’s also wisely not willing to take a paycut on a long-term deal when he could simply hit the open market as a free agent next season. The Denver media continues to say a deal is dead while the Miami media says a trade is still very possible.
Related: Dolphins
Source: Denver Post
Jul 30, 11:25 AM

Speaking on NFL Network Wednesday afternoon, Michael Lombardi confirmed an ESPN report that Kyle Orton “will be the starter in Denver.”
NFL Network introduced the Lombardi segment by stating that Orton has already been told he’s the starter. “He will not be traded,” Lombardi emphasized, echoing Adam Schefter’s report. The Broncos have done a 180 in one week, perhaps in an attempt to quell any negative feedback from the legion of Tebow supporters.
Related: Tim Tebow
Aug 3

ESPN’s Rick Reilly is the latest to call the quarterback competition in Denver “over.” Reilly lives in the Denver and has close ties to Broncos Executive VP of Football Operations John Elway. “Orton won by the kind of margin Kim Jong Il wins elections,” writes Reilly, who says the entire locker room is in Orton’s corner. Tebow will be the second quarterback in during the Broncos’ preseason opener as he battles with Brady Quinn for the backup job. Aug 10, 10:08 AM

It's getting hard to be someone but it all works out, it doesn't matter much to me

by stujo4 on Aug 12, 2011 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions

Then why are we talking about baby Jesus? I’d rather talk about the over/under on “the joiquer” ever becoming a part of the official Saints lexicon.

"Winter is coming"

by jeff.l.b on Aug 12, 2011 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions

It's already there, baby!!

The Joiquer will prevail.

It's getting hard to be someone but it all works out, it doesn't matter much to me

by stujo4 on Aug 12, 2011 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions

It may have been the meds making me hallucinate (I had to undergo an unexpected surgery last night) But I believe the Joiker had a really good game. I’m starting to believe in him. You and Pizza have been right about that guy all along.

In Breesus' name we play

by Breesus Christ Superstar on Aug 13, 2011 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions

Mostly CP. I’m a Chime In kind of guy. Get well soon.

Man, you should have seen them kicking Edgar Allen Poe

by stujo4 on Aug 13, 2011 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions

“He knows the Broncos need a real QB or ~~risk~~ win the Andrew Luck lotto by going 0-16.”

Hmmm… conspiracy theorist, chew on that

"It ain't about how hard you hit, it is about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward, how much can you take and KEEP MOVING FORWARD. That's how winning is done!" - Rocky

by Dan Kelly on Aug 12, 2011 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions

I’m willing to bet Luck won’t be the first QB drafted next year. When was the last time that ever worked out? Leinart…Locker…etc. Though go back for another year, and right or wrong, they get picked apart that much harder by people and they wind up falling a few pegs. There’s more than a few like Landry for instance that will give him a run for the #1 spot. Plus he’ll be learning a new system etc.

"Winter is coming"

by jeff.l.b on Aug 12, 2011 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions

I’m willing to bet Luck won’t be the first QB drafted next year.

I think you’re right, jeff. The #1 pick in the draft next year will be…..

Jordan Jefferson

There's a fine line between love and hate.

by cscmember on Aug 12, 2011 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions

“When was the last time that ever worked out?”

If “that” is a QB drafted #1 overall… Manning is the last one I remember.

"It ain't about how hard you hit, it is about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward, how much can you take and KEEP MOVING FORWARD. That's how winning is done!" - Rocky

by Dan Kelly on Aug 12, 2011 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions

I hope you’re talking about Eli, because if not you’re missing at least a couple. And I know its too early to call it decisively, but Detroit and St. Louis seem to be happy with Stafford and Bradford

"I want to hand this trophy to the MVP of the Super Bowl -- and the MVP of the entire league.''
-- Saints coach Sean Payton, handing the Vince Lombardi Trophy to Drew Brees after Super Bowl 44.

by VAsaintsfan on Aug 12, 2011 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions

Both are still unproven, although they probably won’t “bust”.

And I don’t like Eli.

Any others?

"It ain't about how hard you hit, it is about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward, how much can you take and KEEP MOVING FORWARD. That's how winning is done!" - Rocky

by Dan Kelly on Aug 12, 2011 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions

Jamarcus Russell

Mark Ingram-OROY
Cam Jordan-DROY
New Orleans Saints-2012 Super Bowl Champs

by Alex Swift on Aug 13, 2011 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions

but the guy was an accurate passer last night.

Bronco fans have Mrs. Tebow to thank for that. Had she aborted little Timmy, last night’s exhibition performance would have been meaningless. Even more meaningless than it actually was, I mean.

"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Aug 12, 2011 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions

I’m just ready to see my prediction come true

Mark Ingram-OROY
Cam Jordan-DROY
New Orleans Saints-2012 Super Bowl Champs

by Alex Swift on Aug 12, 2011 7:55 AM CDT reply actions

hey Northfan!
Keeping my fingers crossed for your prediction…

by snowboard_kat on Aug 12, 2011 8:03 AM CDT up reply actions

I just noticed I’m on the list. I should have voted for the second option. GAAAAH!

There's a fine line between love and hate.

by cscmember on Aug 12, 2011 10:32 AM CDT reply actions

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Are you sure this isn’t Preston’s credibility?

"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Aug 12, 2011 10:49 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs

What’s your beef with Preston, man? If it wasn’t for him you would have far less material to work with.

There's a fine line between love and hate.

by cscmember on Aug 12, 2011 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions

lol

idk what to think about this but it made me laugh lol

Now that we have a 2011 season let's win the Superbowl!

by skinnykinney on Aug 14, 2011 12:26 AM CDT up reply actions

wow!

LOL!!!!

On to da next one!

by TAYDIGGA on Aug 14, 2011 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions

Stuart…you look different.

It was good while it lasted.

by MtnExile on Aug 12, 2011 2:55 PM CDT reply actions

Estrogen is kicking in. But I’m still pre-op.

It's getting hard to be someone but it all works out, it doesn't matter much to me

by stujo4 on Aug 12, 2011 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions

from a distance, I can't tell if it's MM or that hispanic kid from My So-Called Life

anyone else enjoying the reruns of that on IFC channel?? If you can stomach the “teenager-lingo-speak” it’s a quality dramedy brought to you by the folks who brought you thirtySOMETHING, which originally came out when i was teenSOMETHING…

Thumbs up, everybody...
For rock and roll!!!!

by Hans Petersen on Aug 13, 2011 7:14 AM CDT up reply actions

Seen it, don’t need to relive it. It is very high quality teen angst drama.

Man, you should have seen them kicking Edgar Allen Poe

by stujo4 on Aug 13, 2011 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions

I must confess. my so-called life is a guilty pleasure.

In Breesus' name we play

by Breesus Christ Superstar on Aug 13, 2011 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions

no reason to feel guilty about that - it's all good

are you watching it on IFC? My wife and I are really enjoying it. We remember some parts of it from the original airings, but then have forgotten much of it, too.

Thumbs up, everybody...
For rock and roll!!!!

by Hans Petersen on Aug 14, 2011 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions

How could anyone forget Jordan Catalano?
Saw the commercial for IFC. Haven’t watched it yet.

In Breesus' name we play

by Breesus Christ Superstar on Aug 14, 2011 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions

He's dreamy....sigh (pitter patter goes my heart)

Thumbs up, everybody...
For rock and roll!!!!

by Hans Petersen on Aug 14, 2011 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions

and I also have to say here that I often read M-E's comments in the voice of HAL from 2001

Thumbs up, everybody...
For rock and roll!!!!

by Hans Petersen on Aug 13, 2011 7:14 AM CDT up reply actions

pats my belly thanks for reminding me of my svelte figure Stu.

"Winter is coming"

by jeff.l.b on Aug 12, 2011 3:30 PM CDT reply actions

We’re not quite FF’s yet, jeff.

It's getting hard to be someone but it all works out, it doesn't matter much to me

by stujo4 on Aug 12, 2011 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions

Tebow is stiff under center

That’s what she said.

(Sssssh. Nobody tell Jebus.)

by Grandmaster Wang on Aug 13, 2011 8:26 AM CDT reply actions

but what if Jebus was playing center Thursday night?

ssssh don’t tell His Dad

Thumbs up, everybody...
For rock and roll!!!!

by Hans Petersen on Aug 13, 2011 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions

For my vote

Yes sometimes you are a clever,funny and sometimes ~~not so funny~~ guy.
And I really don’t consider you as a self-centered douche bag, but more a provocateur, instigator, with self-righteous tendencies. I fear I may possess some of the same character flaws.
Theretofore, I have taken the spineless and non-controversial Hambuger option.

INGRAMANIA equals LOMBARDI 2012

by cajuncommando58 on Aug 13, 2011 1:49 PM CDT reply actions

Hey, Clever Funny Guy is leading by 1 vote. Shocking. Thanks everyone. I think I was actually trying to drive votes to the second choice just for fun. But only she knows for sure.

Or maybe him.

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Mr. Dave once called me a s*** stirrer. I took it as a compliment.

Man, you should have seen them kicking Edgar Allen Poe

by stujo4 on Aug 13, 2011 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions

Shameless self-promoter: guilty

Man, you should have seen them kicking Edgar Allen Poe

by stujo4 on Aug 13, 2011 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions

would this guy be on your approved providers list?

Thumbs up, everybody...
For rock and roll!!!!

by Hans Petersen on Aug 13, 2011 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions

what about this guy?

he’s the same phenotype as Frasier, but “Hey, Now!” he also reminds me of this guy:

Thumbs up, everybody...
For rock and roll!!!!

by Hans Petersen on Aug 13, 2011 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions

me too

Man, you should have seen them kicking Edgar Allen Poe

by stujo4 on Aug 13, 2011 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions

no, character concerns

Man, you should have seen them kicking Edgar Allen Poe

by stujo4 on Aug 13, 2011 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions

but I'm actually thinking this guy is more your speed

Thumbs up, everybody...
For rock and roll!!!!

by Hans Petersen on Aug 13, 2011 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions

he is

Former accountant.

Man, you should have seen them kicking Edgar Allen Poe

by stujo4 on Aug 13, 2011 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions

forgot that fun fact - HA!

He IS your man…

Thumbs up, everybody...
For rock and roll!!!!

by Hans Petersen on Aug 13, 2011 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions

I was thinking more like

"Hi….I’m Larry…… this my brother Darryl…..and this is my other brother Darryl….."

INGRAMANIA equals LOMBARDI 2012

by cajuncommando58 on Aug 13, 2011 3:45 PM CDT reply actions

Loved the Darryls. Loved Larry on Deadwood.

Man, you should have seen them kicking Edgar Allen Poe

by stujo4 on Aug 13, 2011 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions

yup

“Anything for a dollar” was their family business

Thumbs up, everybody...
For rock and roll!!!!

by Hans Petersen on Aug 13, 2011 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions

i voted for #2 because you're an agitator between ppl.

as dave put it, you are a s*** stirrer. On the other hand though, you’re the most entertaining/funny s*** stirrer i know. So I’d have to really go with between 1 and 2 with a side of 3.

Now that we have a 2011 season let's win the Superbowl!

by skinnykinney on Aug 14, 2011 12:30 AM CDT reply actions

Hmmmm, not on the list huh

I will show you

Drew Brees will throw 38 TD’s and no more than 14 INT’s this year

That should do it.

If that one doesn’t, this one will

Tim Tebow will be a starting QB this year, due to injury, trade or performance, he will start at QB, somewhere, in the 2011 season.

The key to life isn't doing what you are told not to do, it is knowing what is worth doing when told not to do it.

by SaintsFanInIraq on Aug 15, 2011 10:01 AM CDT reply actions

I’ll bite on Brees, because I think he may throw 14+ picks (long slow decline). His best has been 34 TD’s twice.

Tebow will start this year. Why don’t you go ahead and tell me he’ll have 34 TD’s? Ok, how about 7 rushing TD’s? He’ll get hurt before either of those happen. Talk about a target on one’s back.

Liberals shout and cause concern, forget next week while we all burn

by stujo4 on Aug 15, 2011 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions

I don’t like the direction this list is headed.
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There's a fine line between love and hate.

by cscmember on Aug 15, 2011 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions

WOOOOOHOOOOOOOO

On the list. YEAH BABY YEAH.

It isn’t an accountability list without me.

Just for good measure, I also say the Houston Texans will make the playoffs this year.

The key to life isn't doing what you are told not to do, it is knowing what is worth doing when told not to do it.

by SaintsFanInIraq on Aug 15, 2011 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions

Let’s not get greedy.

Liberals shout and cause concern, forget next week while we all burn

by stujo4 on Aug 15, 2011 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions

I need to be added

Stujo,
I need to be added for saying the Reggie Bush will not make it 16 weeks as the premier RB in Miami. He couldn’t do it here and I felt like this will not work in Miami. He’s doing well in preseason, but I simply don’t feel he will do it in Miami. I wish no ill will toward him, and wish him luck.

A good clown is a DEAD clown!

by St Jenkins on Aug 20, 2011 5:39 PM CDT reply actions

It helps if you say something Stu would find brash & would disagree with.

"Dang! The Saints won the Super Bowl!" - my wife, Meso "Happy" Hu Dat.

by Dang Hu Dat on Aug 22, 2011 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions

Any positive Lito Shepard remark or any outlandish Tim Tebow remark should do the trick. Warning, use Lito Shepard only in the event you feel an Emergency Need to be placed on the list. I aim for the list, but not even I cross the Lito Line.

The key to life isn't doing what you are told not to do, it is knowing what is worth doing when told not to do it.

by SaintsFanInIraq on Aug 23, 2011 1:26 AM CDT up reply actions