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Need to get some of these items put to bed.

Star-divide

Date

Name

Assertion

Remarks

Resolution

Jul 19  2011

Jimbo3

Dan Kelly

David "Satch" Kelly

St Jenkins

Billy Gomila

lovingmma25

Dang Hu Dat

Fat Punk Kicker

Expressed disbelief that Drew Brees would ask for lifetime exemption from franchise tag as part of the CBA

Or, "God, I hope this is false."

There IS a God.  Looks like the NFLPA lawyers asked for it without Brees' knowledge.  Oh well, it was fun while it lasted.  Again, my apologies to Drew Brees and his agent, Tom Condon.

Aug 8  2011

jeff

Jimmy Graham's 2011 season will not be better than Shockey's 2009 season

He just needs to stop dropping passes and stay healthy.

Aug 3  2011

Northfan

Saints go 5-1 in division, lose @Tampa

15-1 blah blah

That's not blind optimism, that's Helen Keller optimism.

Aug 3  2011

hansdat

Bucs will go at least 11-5 and push us for the division title

Well, that's possible.

Aug 3  2011

hansdat

Atlanta will hit 9-7 (Julio will fail miserably, and Ryan will do worse than 2010 in passer rating)

Disclaimer:  Hans is a Saints fan.

Aug 4  2011

coldpizza

Tarvaris Jackson goes .500 in 2011 if he starts an even number of games greater than zero

This is also possible.  I think. 

Aug 4  2011

stujo4

Tarvaris Jackson starts Game One in 2011

TJAX!!!!

Aug 4  2011

Breesus Christ Superstar

Seahawks go under .500 in 2011

I sense some subjective analysis here.

Jul 31  2011

Preston J. Gary, Jr.

Plaxico Burress will probably start game one, and play a significant amount of snaps

Jets are calling Derrick Mason the starter.

Jul 13  2011

Preston J. Gary, Jr.

Jimmy Graham: 10 TD's in 2011

Wouldn't that be nice?

Jul 15  2011

coldpizza

Objects to Rotoworld's statement that Danny  Amendola will return as the starter in the slot.

They're still doing it!!  GAAA!!!

Jul 15  2011

Jon Banks

GRIZZ

Dan Kelly

cscmember

Jay Preece

Just 'Nother Day

Very impressed with Shaun Rogers' career even before he became a Saint

Not sure why this is on here.  I guess I thought he was just a FF and wouldn't amount to much.  Its not trending that way.

Apr 29  2011

were gonna need a bigger boat

Jeff Duncan

Louisville lovers love Johnny Patrick

I'll need to see some preseason action before I can become a Johnny Lover.

Apr 29  2011

Jun 8  2011

xen-cuts

were gonna need a bigger boat

Andrew Juge

Ingram pick cost too much with too much risk.  Overrated, potential bust.

I think they were thinking of Mikel Leshoure.

May 1  2011

xen-cuts

Ingram scores only 2 to 4 TD's IF he makes the team.

So Pierre and Lance get the rest?  Teetering on the precipice here.

May 1 2011

Hi_Fidelity

Ingram has injury concerns, may not have been the best running back prospect in the draft, and doesn't represent a great upgrade over Thomas/Ivory. and when you consider the price, it was a bad pick unless Ingram puts his butt in the Pro Bowl multiple times or keys another Super Bowl run.

I don't think we'll need multiple pro bowls to prove this wrong.  Turn off your mind, relax and surrender to INGRAMANIA!!

Jul 6  2011

coldpizza

stujo4

Ingram starts more games than Jordan in 2011

Seems like a lock.

Jul 12  2011

skinnykinney

Ingram DOES NOT start more games than Jordan in 2011

Somebody's got JORDANMANIA!!

Apr 28  2011

HansDat

Morstead and 2011 Saints will set NFL record for fewest punts and team record for 6 games without a punt

Hans might have turned off his mind and relaxed a bit too much here.

Mar 17  2011

stujo4

Breesus Christ Superstar

Northfan

NFL CBA will be signed before any 2011 games are lost

Cut it kinda close.

I'm sure we all meant regular season games.  I'm counting this as a win.

Mar 4  2011

Ranger565

Saints RB's:

1. PT
2. Chris Ivory
3. Reggie
4. Hamilton

Ouch.  TUSK!!! is probably PUP'd, Reggie is traded and PhotoOp is a ghost. 

And Pierre is probably not going to start. 

Let's end this mercifully.

Apr 24  2011

MtnExile

Thinks our run game will be Top 5.

If they stay healthy and Payton balances his play calls, right?

Jan 9  2011

Bob Marshall, T-P

Saints To-Do List:  Don't rest on your laurels

Time to settle this.

BM, cont'd

Get a pass rush.

Shaun Rogers, Aubrayo Franklin, Cam Jordan

We'll see if this works.

BM, cont'd

Find an elite deep threat.

Adrian Arrington would be the only add on here.

Meachem = chopped liver?

BM, cont'd

Find more running backs

INGRAMANIA!!

SPROLIES!!!

BOOM!! Marking this one complete.

BM, cont'd

tlsk1066

Overhaul your return and coverage teams.

tlsk thinks this got done with Johnny Patrick and Nate Bussey.  We'll see. 

Roby is back too.

Jan 10  2011

Satch

saint-sly

NFL players and owners will reach an agreement by March and all will continue as normal provided they drop the 18-game schedule idea.

Missed it.   Satch regroups and predicts we'll miss no more than 2 preseason games.

Boom, done.  Hall of Fame game doesn't count.

Jan 14  2011

VAsaintsfan

Skeptical of Denver Post's statement that Kyle Orton is likely to be traded in the offseason

This went back and forth all year.... until they saw Tebow's first practice.  Then they realized they wouldn't have a QB if they traded Orton.

VAsaintsfan is correct.  Orton is not going anywhere for now.

Jan 16  2011

Jeff Duncan

To Do List:

Sign Brees

cont'd

Reggie-pay cut/trade/cut

This took an extraordinary turn. 

In an unlikely trade.

cont'd

Cut Shockey-keep Graham/D Thomas

Done

And done.

cont'd

Cut Kyle/Gay, keep Dresher/P-Rob

Kyle and Gay cut.

Gay might return.  Or not.

cont'd

Retain Bushrod, Harper, Moore,

P Thomas

All done

Fans' response is mixed on some of these.

cont'd

Shanle, Ayodele, Hargrove-Paycut or cut

"Now starting at linebacker for your New Orleans Saints...."

Shanle signed.  Ayodele skips to the Wikings, Hargrove to the Eagles.

cont'd

Goodwin, Evans, Strief, Charleston, Prioleau, Torrence-release, resign at Saints' leisure

Gootwin & Evans gone.

Strief, Charleston, Prioleau and Torrence all return, for now. (We got camp bodies in competition!)

cont'd

(Tennant replaces Goodwin, Casillas replaces Shanle)

Tennant backburnered with the addition of Kreutz.  This might take another year.

Casillas needs to step it up.

cont'd

Draft a DE to help Will Smith

Cameron Jordan

boom done, we'll see how much help he is

cont'd

Free agency niceties-  young fullback, reserve interior OL, K/P returner

See ya, Heath Evans.

I don't know, I guess this is covered.  Can Sproles return kicks or just punts?

cont'd

Educate and overhaul TUSK!

Don't know about the education, but the overhaul is turning into a long term project.

About to start the season on the PUP list.

Jul 12 2011

coldpizza

Strief gets re-signed by the Saints before Bushrod

Close enough to be meaningless.

Bushrod signed July 28, Strief on August 1.

Apr 28  2011

stujo4

Whoever drafts Da'Quan Bowers will see him balloon up during the inevitable rehab

This is not happening, I was wrong.  At least, for THIS rehab.  Will he make it through his rookie season?  Holding this open in case of catastrophe.

May 1  2011

GSO Saints Fan

The Falcons will begin a steep decline based on this draft.

Julio Jones looks awesome.

May 1  2011

were gonna need a bigger boat

Martez Wilson, not Mark Ingram, makes the biggest impact of all rookies this season.

Wilson's had a pretty quiet camp, hasn't he?

May 2  2011

coldpizza

Three NFC South teams with double digit win totals in 2011.

Why didn't he just say Saints, Falcons, Bucs?

May 2  2011

Northfan

Wilson probably has the best chance of our drafted rookies to win Rookie of the Year

He didn't say "...in the NFL" so technically, he's still got a chance.

May 2  2011

tommy

Junior Galette will be a starter this year

He's got to make the team first.

May 9  2011

coldpizza

2011 RB's:  Ingram, Thomas, Ivory, J Bell. Bush gets cut outright prior to training camp

The crystal ball had a little smudge on it, Reggie was traded before camp.  Leaving this open to see if The Joiquer can prevail.

May 4  2011

skinnykinney

Ingram won't have more than 3 games with 13+ carries

I heard that humble pie tastes like dog poop.

May 4  2011

coldpizza

Ingram will have 8 games with 13+ carries & 50%+ more rushing yards than teammates

Mikel Leshoure would have done the same if Mickey had read his incoming faxes on draft day and Leshoure's Achilles hadn't snapped.

May 4  2011

jray2000

Martez Wilson will be the best overall performer of our draft class

Déjà vu.  That's French for "You smoke too much dope."

May 11  2011

Andrew Juge

Saint for life

Andrew Juge again

Saint for Life again

Heath Evans will probably/def be on the opening day roster

Oh, you meant on the NFL Network?  Well why didn't you say so?

Bunch of Heath lovers.

May 13  2011

Preston J. Gary, Jr.

Saints will pursue Rocky McIntosh and Barry Cofield

If by "pursue" you mean "If you want to come to camp without any guarantees of any kind, that's fine, whatever", then I think you nailed it.

They signed with somebody but I'm not looking it up.

Jun 2  2011

jeff

Doesn't believe A Arrington will be a regular rotation receiver

In 2011

jeff, ever the skeptic.  But I tend to agree.  He's got a very slight build.  AA, I mean.  jeff could stand to lose a few.

Jun 18  2011

tommy

PhotoOp makes the roster

So sorry, tommy.

If Ingram pops an Achilles, Rita could give Lynell a call, sure.

April 18  2011

stujo4

Scott Shanle will return to the Saints in 2011

LunchPale ain't skeered of Casillas, Herrring, or Clint Ingram.

Now, will he start on opening day?

Aug 1  2011

tstuart77

Shanle plays SAM-and presumably starts

That's what I'm talkin' ‘bout.  Not that I like it.  I'm just reading Gdub's mind.

Jan 21  2011

bondcrash

OT Charles Brown is the starter by Sep 2011

He's practicing and doing well, I heard.  But he'll have to stay healthy.

Aug 1  2011

bondcrash

Strief will give Stinchcomb a run for his money and start at RT

I don't know what "run for his money" means.  Like, steal out of his locker?  We're going to need to be more specific, guys.

Nov 2  2010

Stujo4

The over thrown would be TD pass to Strief in week 8 of 2010 indicates Brees' QB career peaked in 2009

I'll draw a picture for you in a couple of years.  It'll kinda look like this:

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.          \

Jul 14  2011

Satch

Drew Brees will prove he is not in decline by throwing less than 10 interceptions and winning the league MVP award

In 2011, presumably.  The >10 might be harder than the MVP.

Jul 14  2011

Satch

Pierre Thomas will lead the team for the season in rushing yards and rushing TDs

Satch, you found the peyote in the New Mexico desert, didn't you?

Jul 14  2011

Satch

Darren Sharper won't play another snap for the Saints

Down to the wire on this one, but not looking good for Sharper.

May 14  2010

VAsaintsfan

Condemned Ricky Williams draft day trade, applauded Tebow draft day trade

Hey, Ricky's going to play for the Ravens this year.  While Tim Tebow sits on the bench behind Orton.  it's a completely different thing than the shotgun.  Tebow is stiff under center and can't make decisions quickly enough.

May 17  2010

Frenchie

Believes Payton was addicted to Vicodin and Loomis aided cover-up

Need to get this off of here before we get sued.

I'm calling it.  Unless they go to rehab, this is a closed chapter.

Jul 2  2011

Preston J. Gary, Jr.

Shaun Rogers will make a big impact on defense for the Saints in 2011.

I underestimated the Big Ass Baby Huey or whatever he's called.  But let's wait and see if he falls on Ingram in practice and tears his Achilles.

Jul 11 2011

coldpizza

Shaun Rogers in 2011:  2-3 sacks tops

Seems about right.

Jul 12  2011

coldpizza

At least two teams with a new starting QB will make the playoffs this year. At least one of those new QBs will be a rookie

I need a pencil and paper to make sense of this.  You mean, like, Christian Ponder?

Jul 18  2011

Len Pasquarelli

Between signing bonus and 2011 salary, Bush will be 'made whole' on the $11.8 million, or close to it, but the odds are it won't be in New Orleans.

Signed a two-year, $9.75 million contract with Miami. The deal included a $2.5 million signing bonus. 2011: $2.5 million, 2012: $4.5 million (+ $275,000 workout bonus)

I thought "made whole" meant he'd get all of it.  He didn't get all of it and certainly didn't get it all this year.

Jul 2  2011

Preston J. Gary, Jr.

If Reggie stays, he will have a more impactful season than his rookie year and the offense will be more dangerous than in 2009.

He didn't stay.

You wanna double down and say it applies in Miami?

Jun 23  2011

Jeff Duncan

Chances of being a Saint in 2011:

Reggie 30-40%

Lance  80-90%

Correct on both.

I think he might have just guessed on those odds, though.

May 4  2011

TAYDIGGA

Reggie's new contract will be at least $4 million a year, traded or restructured

It is.

I wish him well in Miami.

May 3  2011

stujo4

Reggie needs to have a good camp, or PayLoo will cut him without a contract offer.

I don't know what kind of camp he's having.

I think the Daniel Thomas kid will put a kink in Reggie's plans.

Mar 22  2011

coldpizza

Reggie will not sign a new contract prior to mid-August 2011

Well technically, he didn't sign a contract with the Saints.

Signed with the Dolphins on July 28

June 11  2010

coldpizza

CP thinks PT and Reggie both gone in 2011

Only half way there.

I'm closing this. PT will sit behind Ingram.

May 20  2011

stujo4

Reggie will retire having played all his NFL games as a Saint.

I let my emotions get the better of me.

I'm trying not to cry.

Jul 26  2011

Steve Forbes

US will return to the gold standard within 5 years

Teddy Roosevelt style pince nez eyeglasses will come back into style first.

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12 votes
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6 votes

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coldpizza will say I stole his Helen Keller gag, but I wrote that the day before he used it in a comment here and I thought “CP’s going to think I stole his Helen Keller gag.” That’s my story and I’m sticking with it.

The Drew Brees graph looked a lot better in Word.

Try to realize it's all within yourself
No one else can make you change

by stujo4 on Aug 11, 2011 3:56 PM CDT reply actions  

Awesome!

Can’t wait to see how many I got right! I still believe in my Pierre Thomas prediction. I hope Ingram not only proves me wrong but makes me out to be an absolute idiot. My ego can take the hit.

"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!

by David "Satch" Kelly on Aug 11, 2011 4:11 PM CDT reply actions  

Me too Stu, Me too...

I think he won’t disappoint us.

On to da next one!

by TAYDIGGA on Aug 11, 2011 5:49 PM CDT reply actions  

I seem to remember asking you to put me on the list

That Reggie would be traded. Why no love?

Peyton, I can eat Oreos faster than you!!!!

by mknkachow on Aug 11, 2011 8:38 PM CDT reply actions  

Yeah, I remember that too

“Asking” doesn’t do it. You have to provoke me. Which you did here. But I guess you did such a good job that I didn’t List it. So I apologized for being wrong here. It’s not a perfect science.

Try to realize it's all within yourself
No one else can make you change

by stujo4 on Aug 11, 2011 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fair enough

Peyton, I can eat Oreos faster than you!!!!

by mknkachow on Aug 11, 2011 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm sure

It’s hard to keep track of all these predictions

Peyton, I can eat Oreos faster than you!!!!

by mknkachow on Aug 11, 2011 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

I remember that convo too...I wasn't sure what would happen.

But hey…Ingram does look beastly, can’t deny it. I wonder what Payton is going to do, I maintain he’s going to be 60/40 with pass to run this year.

On to da next one!

by TAYDIGGA on Aug 14, 2011 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

here's the thing...I'm likely to forget my Aug 3 predictions for Bucs/Falcons

please remind me if I pop off later in the season in a contradictory manner to what I said on Aug 3

Thumbs up, everybody...
For rock and roll!!!!

by Hans Petersen on Aug 11, 2011 9:15 PM CDT reply actions  

as always, nice work, Stu

I always enjoy reading this…

and I always chuckle at my silly special teams prediction – Ha!

Thumbs up, everybody...
For rock and roll!!!!

by Hans Petersen on Aug 11, 2011 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks for inflating my comments total, Hans. And for voting “Clever, funny guy” That’s 2 votes now, you and me. Versus 6 for douche bag. Unless you protested the name calling by voting for hamburger. That’s ok too.

Try to realize it's all within yourself
No one else can make you change

by stujo4 on Aug 11, 2011 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why isn’t there a burger on every post? The Dave, are you reading?

There's a fine line between love and hate.

by cscmember on Aug 11, 2011 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

there is

but its like wheres waldo or the bunny on the cover of playboy. ya gotta find it

"If you ask ME, though, any game without push-ups, hits, burns or noogies is a sissy game" Calvin to Hobbes

by maybetoday on Aug 11, 2011 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

I did vote for clever, funny guy

would have chosen “clever, funny name-caller” but it wasn’t an option

although I did agonize a bit over the meaning (what with the words again and all):

do you mean that choice to mean you are both a clever and funny guy, or perhaps that the feature itself is clever, and you are a funny guy (doesn’t really matter, because I’d have voted for both of them, but you know how I love to parse words/meaning)

Thumbs up, everybody...
For rock and roll!!!!

by Hans Petersen on Aug 13, 2011 7:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

or was it to drip with sarcasm and "funny guy" is another name-calling instance

My skills are both a blessing and a curse.

Also, I just BOOM-REC’d the post…

Thumbs up, everybody...
For rock and roll!!!!

by Hans Petersen on Aug 13, 2011 7:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don’t know what it means, it came out of my head. Ask Dr. Melphi. And happy day after your anniversary, by the way.

Man, you should have seen them kicking Edgar Allen Poe

by stujo4 on Aug 13, 2011 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

thank you

and I wasn’t really looking for an answer about your meaning – just noodling around with words…

Thumbs up, everybody...
For rock and roll!!!!

by Hans Petersen on Aug 13, 2011 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

…maybe clever and funny douche bag?

by snowboard_kat on Aug 12, 2011 7:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

I’ll take it.

It's getting hard to be someone but it all works out, it doesn't matter much to me

by stujo4 on Aug 12, 2011 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

lol probably the best option ;D

Now that we have a 2011 season let's win the Superbowl!

by skinnykinney on Aug 14, 2011 12:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

After last night's preseason game...

You might be a little too tough on Tebow. I don’t know about Denver’s practices but the guy was an accurate passer last night.

"I want to hand this trophy to the MVP of the Super Bowl -- and the MVP of the entire league.''
-- Saints coach Sean Payton, handing the Vince Lombardi Trophy to Drew Brees after Super Bowl 44.

by VAsaintsfan on Aug 12, 2011 7:20 AM CDT reply actions  

well, that's one opinion
Tebow had a decent game and looked a lot like he did last season and would be a productive fantasy QB, but I doubt he would win many games. It looks as if he is acting on instinct alone and that can only carry you so far in the NFL. And when he runs he isn’t Michael Vick, he is Mike Tolbert. The dude is going to get hit hard and hit often by some very large men.

It's getting hard to be someone but it all works out, it doesn't matter much to me

by stujo4 on Aug 12, 2011 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

If instinct alone lets the man complete 85% of his passes then I’ll take it any day of the week.

"I want to hand this trophy to the MVP of the Super Bowl -- and the MVP of the entire league.''
-- Saints coach Sean Payton, handing the Vince Lombardi Trophy to Drew Brees after Super Bowl 44.

by VAsaintsfan on Aug 12, 2011 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

In one preseason game. You can have all you want of that.

It's getting hard to be someone but it all works out, it doesn't matter much to me

by stujo4 on Aug 12, 2011 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

here's an opinion by someone who counts

rotoworld.com:

Assessing Tim Tebow’s performance in the preseason opener, Broncos coach John Fox called him “a work in progress.” “Quarterbacking-wise, I thought Kyle (Orton) was sharp and I thought Tim is a work in progress,” Fox said. “[Tebow] made some things happen. He’s learning.” This obviously isn’t a camp battle, but it’s notable that Fox was underwhelmed by a quarterback who completed 6-of-7 passes for 91 yards. We firmly believe Tebow will make starts this year. It just won’t be by design.

It's getting hard to be someone but it all works out, it doesn't matter much to me

by stujo4 on Aug 12, 2011 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Joan Walsh can Earn the Bacon, Bring it home, and Fry it up in a pan

your avatars are turning into a who’s who of MSNBC, there’s still Wolffe, Millbank, Alter, just no Michael Steele, WUWT, is he our Alan Colmes?

You think you know, and you don't know, and you never, ever, will.-Jim Mora Sr.
I understand ....nothing.-Michael Scott
The Future is Unwritten.-Joe Strummer
"I don't dance to DIdo dude"-Tommy Saxondale

by metryman on Aug 12, 2011 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Notice no Olbermann. Can’t stand Michael Steele.

It's getting hard to be someone but it all works out, it doesn't matter much to me

by stujo4 on Aug 12, 2011 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wolfe sold out for a book deal. Dana Milbank is a weasel. (Sorry, Hans.)

It's getting hard to be someone but it all works out, it doesn't matter much to me

by stujo4 on Aug 12, 2011 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Steele aggravates me to no end

but he does look funny as “Mr. Johnson” the Muppet

You think you know, and you don't know, and you never, ever, will.-Jim Mora Sr.
I understand ....nothing.-Michael Scott
The Future is Unwritten.-Joe Strummer
"I don't dance to DIdo dude"-Tommy Saxondale

by metryman on Aug 12, 2011 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Do u have the Current Channel?

You think you know, and you don't know, and you never, ever, will.-Jim Mora Sr.
I understand ....nothing.-Michael Scott
The Future is Unwritten.-Joe Strummer
"I don't dance to DIdo dude"-Tommy Saxondale

by metryman on Aug 12, 2011 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

I do

When are they going HD?

It's getting hard to be someone but it all works out, it doesn't matter much to me

by stujo4 on Aug 12, 2011 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

workin on it

bringing in a new guy, oh yeah, The Jacksonville Sharks are your Arena Bowl Champions!

You think you know, and you don't know, and you never, ever, will.-Jim Mora Sr.
I understand ....nothing.-Michael Scott
The Future is Unwritten.-Joe Strummer
"I don't dance to DIdo dude"-Tommy Saxondale

by metryman on Aug 12, 2011 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Simply to play a devil’s advocate here….i personally could care less about the Tebow/Orton drama….but would you ever actually expect John Fox to come out and lather praise on Tim Tebow after one preseason game even if he felt like Tebow played amazing? (not saying he did…cause he didn’t…had the terrible interception called back because of a penalty etc, etc).

Fox is a good coach and a fairly smart guy. He’ll play his cards close to his chest etc. He can’t afford to alienate Orton by overly praising Tebow, he can’t afford to alienate the somewhat idiot fan base by degrading Tebow either. Additionally…if Tebow ever did get the starting nod…they’d undoubtedly have to trade off Orton. By praising Orton as sharp (even when he wasn’t he missed two passes for TDs but at least didn’t do anything negative) it at least keeps him in a good light for possible trade values as well.

To cap this odd to avoid more listing….Frankly I hope Orton wins and keeps the job. While Orton is not a great QB, he is more than an adequate starter who deserves some credit. He’s more than capable of winning a football game. The issues that Denver has…frankly evolves around the running game and defense…not Orton’s play at QB. Baby Jesus may one day become a decent QB…but this isn’t the day…stay with Orton.

"Winter is coming"

by jeff.l.b on Aug 12, 2011 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pre-reply – in the last paragraph odd = off.

"Winter is coming"

by jeff.l.b on Aug 12, 2011 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

He can’t afford to alienate Orton

John Fox pretty much alienates everyone but his running backs.

Orton is the one holding all the cards (and not so close to his vest, either). He knows the Broncos need a real QB or risk going 0-16. He gets paid his full contract amount and gets to start.

rotoworld.com:

The Broncos will not release Kyle Orton, according to the Denver Post.
The Broncos would owe Orton $2.9 million in salary on top of his $1.5 million roster bonus if they cut him. In other words, it’s not happening. He’s also wisely not willing to take a paycut on a long-term deal when he could simply hit the open market as a free agent next season. The Denver media continues to say a deal is dead while the Miami media says a trade is still very possible.
Related: Dolphins
Source: Denver Post
Jul 30, 11:25 AM

Speaking on NFL Network Wednesday afternoon, Michael Lombardi confirmed an ESPN report that Kyle Orton “will be the starter in Denver.”
NFL Network introduced the Lombardi segment by stating that Orton has already been told he’s the starter. “He will not be traded,” Lombardi emphasized, echoing Adam Schefter’s report. The Broncos have done a 180 in one week, perhaps in an attempt to quell any negative feedback from the legion of Tebow supporters.
Related: Tim Tebow
Aug 3
ESPN’s Rick Reilly is the latest to call the quarterback competition in Denver “over.” Reilly lives in the Denver and has close ties to Broncos Executive VP of Football Operations John Elway. “Orton won by the kind of margin Kim Jong Il wins elections,” writes Reilly, who says the entire locker room is in Orton’s corner. Tebow will be the second quarterback in during the Broncos’ preseason opener as he battles with Brady Quinn for the backup job. Aug 10, 10:08 AM

It's getting hard to be someone but it all works out, it doesn't matter much to me

by stujo4 on Aug 12, 2011 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Then why are we talking about baby Jesus? I’d rather talk about the over/under on “the joiquer” ever becoming a part of the official Saints lexicon.

"Winter is coming"

by jeff.l.b on Aug 12, 2011 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's already there, baby!!

The Joiquer will prevail.

It's getting hard to be someone but it all works out, it doesn't matter much to me

by stujo4 on Aug 12, 2011 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

It may have been the meds making me hallucinate (I had to undergo an unexpected surgery last night) But I believe the Joiker had a really good game. I’m starting to believe in him. You and Pizza have been right about that guy all along.

In Breesus' name we play

by Breesus Christ Superstar on Aug 13, 2011 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mostly CP. I’m a Chime In kind of guy. Get well soon.

Man, you should have seen them kicking Edgar Allen Poe

by stujo4 on Aug 13, 2011 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

“He knows the Broncos need a real QB or risk win the Andrew Luck lotto by going 0-16.”

Hmmm… conspiracy theorist, chew on that

"It ain't about how hard you hit, it is about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward, how much can you take and KEEP MOVING FORWARD. That's how winning is done!" - Rocky

by Dan Kelly on Aug 12, 2011 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I’m willing to bet Luck won’t be the first QB drafted next year. When was the last time that ever worked out? Leinart…Locker…etc. Though go back for another year, and right or wrong, they get picked apart that much harder by people and they wind up falling a few pegs. There’s more than a few like Landry for instance that will give him a run for the #1 spot. Plus he’ll be learning a new system etc.

"Winter is coming"

by jeff.l.b on Aug 12, 2011 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

I’m willing to bet Luck won’t be the first QB drafted next year.

I think you’re right, jeff. The #1 pick in the draft next year will be…..

Jordan Jefferson

There's a fine line between love and hate.

by cscmember on Aug 12, 2011 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

“When was the last time that ever worked out?”

If “that” is a QB drafted #1 overall… Manning is the last one I remember.

"It ain't about how hard you hit, it is about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward, how much can you take and KEEP MOVING FORWARD. That's how winning is done!" - Rocky

by Dan Kelly on Aug 12, 2011 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hope you’re talking about Eli, because if not you’re missing at least a couple. And I know its too early to call it decisively, but Detroit and St. Louis seem to be happy with Stafford and Bradford

"I want to hand this trophy to the MVP of the Super Bowl -- and the MVP of the entire league.''
-- Saints coach Sean Payton, handing the Vince Lombardi Trophy to Drew Brees after Super Bowl 44.

by VAsaintsfan on Aug 12, 2011 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Both are still unproven, although they probably won’t “bust”.

And I don’t like Eli.

Any others?

"It ain't about how hard you hit, it is about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward, how much can you take and KEEP MOVING FORWARD. That's how winning is done!" - Rocky

by Dan Kelly on Aug 12, 2011 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jamarcus Russell

Mark Ingram-OROY
Cam Jordan-DROY
New Orleans Saints-2012 Super Bowl Champs

by Alex Swift on Aug 13, 2011 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

but the guy was an accurate passer last night.

Bronco fans have Mrs. Tebow to thank for that. Had she aborted little Timmy, last night’s exhibition performance would have been meaningless. Even more meaningless than it actually was, I mean.

"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Aug 12, 2011 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

I’m just ready to see my prediction come true

Mark Ingram-OROY
Cam Jordan-DROY
New Orleans Saints-2012 Super Bowl Champs

by Alex Swift on Aug 12, 2011 7:55 AM CDT reply actions  

hey Northfan!
Keeping my fingers crossed for your prediction…

by snowboard_kat on Aug 12, 2011 8:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

I just noticed I’m on the list. I should have voted for the second option. GAAAAH!

There's a fine line between love and hate.

by cscmember on Aug 12, 2011 10:32 AM CDT reply actions  

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Are you sure this isn’t Preston’s credibility?

"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Aug 12, 2011 10:49 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

What’s your beef with Preston, man? If it wasn’t for him you would have far less material to work with.

There's a fine line between love and hate.

by cscmember on Aug 12, 2011 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

lol

idk what to think about this but it made me laugh lol

Now that we have a 2011 season let's win the Superbowl!

by skinnykinney on Aug 14, 2011 12:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

wow!

LOL!!!!

On to da next one!

by TAYDIGGA on Aug 14, 2011 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Stuart…you look different.

It was good while it lasted.

by MtnExile on Aug 12, 2011 2:55 PM CDT reply actions  

Estrogen is kicking in. But I’m still pre-op.

It's getting hard to be someone but it all works out, it doesn't matter much to me

by stujo4 on Aug 12, 2011 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

from a distance, I can't tell if it's MM or that hispanic kid from My So-Called Life

anyone else enjoying the reruns of that on IFC channel?? If you can stomach the “teenager-lingo-speak” it’s a quality dramedy brought to you by the folks who brought you thirtySOMETHING, which originally came out when i was teenSOMETHING…

Thumbs up, everybody...
For rock and roll!!!!

by Hans Petersen on Aug 13, 2011 7:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Seen it, don’t need to relive it. It is very high quality teen angst drama.

Man, you should have seen them kicking Edgar Allen Poe

by stujo4 on Aug 13, 2011 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

I must confess. my so-called life is a guilty pleasure.

In Breesus' name we play

by Breesus Christ Superstar on Aug 13, 2011 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

no reason to feel guilty about that - it's all good

are you watching it on IFC? My wife and I are really enjoying it. We remember some parts of it from the original airings, but then have forgotten much of it, too.

Thumbs up, everybody...
For rock and roll!!!!

by Hans Petersen on Aug 14, 2011 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

How could anyone forget Jordan Catalano?
Saw the commercial for IFC. Haven’t watched it yet.

In Breesus' name we play

by Breesus Christ Superstar on Aug 14, 2011 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

We’re not quite FF’s yet, jeff.

It's getting hard to be someone but it all works out, it doesn't matter much to me

by stujo4 on Aug 12, 2011 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tebow is stiff under center

That’s what she said.

(Sssssh. Nobody tell Jebus.)

by Grandmaster Wang on Aug 13, 2011 8:26 AM CDT reply actions  

but what if Jebus was playing center Thursday night?

ssssh don’t tell His Dad

Thumbs up, everybody...
For rock and roll!!!!

by Hans Petersen on Aug 13, 2011 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

For my vote

Yes sometimes you are a clever,funny and sometimes not so funny guy.
And I really don’t consider you as a self-centered douche bag, but more a provocateur, instigator, with self-righteous tendencies. I fear I may possess some of the same character flaws.
Theretofore, I have taken the spineless and non-controversial Hambuger option.

INGRAMANIA equals LOMBARDI 2012

by cajuncommando58 on Aug 13, 2011 1:49 PM CDT reply actions  

Hey, Clever Funny Guy is leading by 1 vote. Shocking. Thanks everyone. I think I was actually trying to drive votes to the second choice just for fun. But only she knows for sure.

Or maybe him.

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Mr. Dave once called me a s*** stirrer. I took it as a compliment.

Man, you should have seen them kicking Edgar Allen Poe

by stujo4 on Aug 13, 2011 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Shameless self-promoter: guilty

Man, you should have seen them kicking Edgar Allen Poe

by stujo4 on Aug 13, 2011 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

what about this guy?

he’s the same phenotype as Frasier, but “Hey, Now!” he also reminds me of this guy:

Thumbs up, everybody...
For rock and roll!!!!

by Hans Petersen on Aug 13, 2011 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

me too

Man, you should have seen them kicking Edgar Allen Poe

by stujo4 on Aug 13, 2011 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

no, character concerns

Man, you should have seen them kicking Edgar Allen Poe

by stujo4 on Aug 13, 2011 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

he is

Former accountant.

Man, you should have seen them kicking Edgar Allen Poe

by stujo4 on Aug 13, 2011 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

forgot that fun fact - HA!

He IS your man…

Thumbs up, everybody...
For rock and roll!!!!

by Hans Petersen on Aug 13, 2011 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was thinking more like


"Hi….I’m Larry…… this my brother Darryl…..and this is my other brother Darryl….."

INGRAMANIA equals LOMBARDI 2012

by cajuncommando58 on Aug 13, 2011 3:45 PM CDT reply actions  

Loved the Darryls. Loved Larry on Deadwood.

Man, you should have seen them kicking Edgar Allen Poe

by stujo4 on Aug 13, 2011 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

yup

“Anything for a dollar” was their family business

Thumbs up, everybody...
For rock and roll!!!!

by Hans Petersen on Aug 13, 2011 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

i voted for #2 because you're an agitator between ppl.

as dave put it, you are a s*** stirrer. On the other hand though, you’re the most entertaining/funny s*** stirrer i know. So I’d have to really go with between 1 and 2 with a side of 3.

Now that we have a 2011 season let's win the Superbowl!

by skinnykinney on Aug 14, 2011 12:30 AM CDT reply actions  

Hmmmm, not on the list huh

I will show you

Drew Brees will throw 38 TD’s and no more than 14 INT’s this year

That should do it.

If that one doesn’t, this one will

Tim Tebow will be a starting QB this year, due to injury, trade or performance, he will start at QB, somewhere, in the 2011 season.

The key to life isn't doing what you are told not to do, it is knowing what is worth doing when told not to do it.

by SaintsFanInIraq on Aug 15, 2011 10:01 AM CDT reply actions  

I’ll bite on Brees, because I think he may throw 14+ picks (long slow decline). His best has been 34 TD’s twice.

Tebow will start this year. Why don’t you go ahead and tell me he’ll have 34 TD’s? Ok, how about 7 rushing TD’s? He’ll get hurt before either of those happen. Talk about a target on one’s back.

Liberals shout and cause concern, forget next week while we all burn

by stujo4 on Aug 15, 2011 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don’t like the direction this list is headed.
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There's a fine line between love and hate.

by cscmember on Aug 15, 2011 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

WOOOOOHOOOOOOOO

On the list. YEAH BABY YEAH.

It isn’t an accountability list without me.

Just for good measure, I also say the Houston Texans will make the playoffs this year.

The key to life isn't doing what you are told not to do, it is knowing what is worth doing when told not to do it.

by SaintsFanInIraq on Aug 15, 2011 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

Let’s not get greedy.

Liberals shout and cause concern, forget next week while we all burn

by stujo4 on Aug 15, 2011 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

I need to be added

Stujo,
I need to be added for saying the Reggie Bush will not make it 16 weeks as the premier RB in Miami. He couldn’t do it here and I felt like this will not work in Miami. He’s doing well in preseason, but I simply don’t feel he will do it in Miami. I wish no ill will toward him, and wish him luck.

A good clown is a DEAD clown!

by St Jenkins on Aug 20, 2011 5:39 PM CDT reply actions  

It helps if you say something Stu would find brash & would disagree with.

"Dang! The Saints won the Super Bowl!" - my wife, Meso "Happy" Hu Dat.

by Dang Hu Dat on Aug 22, 2011 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Any positive Lito Shepard remark or any outlandish Tim Tebow remark should do the trick. Warning, use Lito Shepard only in the event you feel an Emergency Need to be placed on the list. I aim for the list, but not even I cross the Lito Line.

The key to life isn't doing what you are told not to do, it is knowing what is worth doing when told not to do it.

by SaintsFanInIraq on Aug 23, 2011 1:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah ok, Vicodin off the list.

But you know that’s b**l.

Repeat? Under construction...

by FrenchFreak on Aug 21, 2011 9:57 PM CDT reply actions  

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