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Saints Training Camp: Day Thirteen Recap

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Camp/Practice Reports

Jon Stinchcomb returns to practice for New Orleans Saints; Marques Colston still out | NOLA.com
Nakia Hogan - Post-practice injury report: Payton says Stinchcomb will play Friday night

Saints Practice Report: Graham's TD shows bright future for tight end | wwltv.com New Orleans
Bradley Handwerger - If you’re one of the Saints coaches, you likely never know what's going to happen when you see a pass going to Jimmy Graham.

Saints Camp: Battles for roster spots come in focus before 49ers tilt | sportsnola.com
Al Dupuy - On the eve of their preseason opener, the New Orleans Saints held what was just another traning camp workout on the road to the regular season.

Injuries limiting training-camp competition in New Orleans Saints secondary | NOLA.com
Jeff Duncan - Wednesday's news and notes from Saints camp.

Backup QB Chase Daniel nips at Drews Brees' heels in New Orleans Saints practice | NOLA.com
Mike Triplett - New Orleans Saints starter basks in competitive fire at camp.

Vilma happy about two new DTs - NFC South Blog | ESPN.com
Pat Y. - New Orleans fans, you'll hear plenty more from Jonathan Vilma when we run our Camp Confidential segment on the Saints on Friday.

 

Head coach talks about playing rotation

Saints head coach Sean Payton met with the media after practice and discussed the club's installation schedule, tommorrow night's preseason opener vs. San Francisco and the emergence of running back Joique Bell.

(Transcript via neworleanssaints.com)

Opening Statements

"I'll start on the injuries. The following players remain on the failed physical list: Chris Ivory, Tracy Porter, and Greg Romeus. The guys that did not practice today due to injury were Ezra Butler (hamstring and sports hernia surgery), Marques Colston (right knee, we are going to rest him tomorrow night), Ramon Humber (right quad), Clint Ingram (hamstring), and Alex Barron had a meniscus in his knee that was operated on yesterday. The guys that were limited today: Jon Stinchcomb (he'll play, he was full), Roger Allen (he'll play), Jarred Fayson (he'll play), and we'll probably hold on Adrian Arrington with his ankle (he's close, and should be ready to come back and practice on Sunday). Our plan right now, I think, with the first-line guys is somewhere between 14 or 16 snaps, which would be pretty typical of what we've done in the past. There may or not be a few exceptions there. Generally if you say ‘a quarter,' one side of the ball gets more snaps than the other in the first quarter, so we will pay attention to that and make the substitution after we hit that total. The second line guys will go into the third quarter, and we'll finish with the third wave."

Remember you said last week that you weren't going to rush the installations, you wanted to get it right and not try to squeeze anything in. How did that end up going? How far along are you?

"I would say we're - compared to the last five years - there's probably three less/two less installs that we would've had prior to this first game. We haven't had a full, thorough goal line install, nor have we had a full short-yardage install. That will begin Sunday, with practices Sunday PM, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday before we get into what would be the Texans practice next Thursday. There's plenty of plays we can run in those situations, but that would be the difference from this year compared to the prior years."

When you talk about waves, would Drew Brees play the first 14 plays as the first wave quarterback?

"Yes, and he would be one where I would monitor whether he goes the whole first wave or not. A lot of it would just be dependent on the snaps he gets. There are a couple of guys like Vilma and Darren Sproles that don't have to get the whole 14 or 16, but that would be the general guideline."

You brought so many guys into the defensive front seven and you have a lot of depth there. Does that make it difficult for some guys to stand out?

"It's a good question because of our numbers. The one thing we have a chance to do is really, when you look at the down linemen, they're at full strength per say and they'll all play. The linebacker position is a little different with a few guys nicked up and I think that we will be three-deep there. I think Martez Wilson will play more than just one role, if you will, because we're two-deep at the Sam (strongside linebacker) right now. But I think in the d-line, it lends itself to a natural rotation anyway and, to give you an example, in the first wave of defensive linemen there would be a third end ready and a third tackle ready. So they're playing, whether they get 14-16 snaps, they might be light of that. But to answer your question, I think it's a good problem to have and I think we've got experience there so it will be good competition beginning tomorrow night, and we will evaluate not only the preseason games but the practice snaps they're getting."

As far as your first-wave guys, because of the shortened time of the preseason/training camp, did you think about altering your approach to this first game at all, playing time wise?

"I think from a playing time standpoint, we kind of stuck with the snap count that we felt comfortable with. The change would be what we talked about a little bit earlier as far as what was in, but I think they're in good shape. I think they're ready to handle the snaps that they're given and we'll go from there."

In the past you've brought in an extra quarterback to kind of push your backups. What's the message it sends Sean Canfield as he goes into his first preseason game that nobody was brought in this year?

"Well, we actually had a fourth at the very beginning. It's always been a challenge when the number was 80, which it has been in years prior. I think these players understand one thing, and I just told it to them as we came off the field. It's easy for them to look at their own position on the depth chart, but they're really competing against the other 31 teams and players at their position on those teams because this tape goes out to everyone in the league. Of course, we'll study and pay attention to how guys are playing in the preseason for other teams. So they're not just competing with the depth chart here in New Orleans and I think certainly you've seen us acquire a player during training camp, and that player being someone who can contribute quite a bit. I'm anxious to see, from a performance standpoint, how Sean does, how Chase (Daniel) does. Those guys will get reps and have opportunities. I think they're further along today than they were a year ago at this time."

Is there any thought, because of the time frame, touching base with the other coaching staff about how you can work together to make sure you got done what you wanted to get done for this game.

"I think occasionally that's happened. In this case I haven't talked to Jim at all, so I think we've just taken the approach there's certain things we want to do in this game and be ready to do and be ready to adjust to what we're seeing from them. The challenge always with a new staff is trying to get a beat on what you're going to get scheme wise both from the offense and from the defense. So we're going to have to make some adjustments and be ready to defend and attack certain looks maybe that they haven't seen in practice."

With the frantic free agency you had, do you think you and other head coaches, going into the first free agency game, know a little less, maybe not know all the numbers and faces yet?

"I think it was, to really define the period it was that musical chairs and all of a sudden the rosters have changed and it just happened in two weeks as opposed to two months and a whole off-season, so really quickly you're getting yourself adapted to each team, who you see as their starting unit as well as getting your own team prepared. I think really our focus has been more internal though, in regards to players that we acquired during that period of time and it happened very fast, and so becoming familiar with Aubrayo Franklin, Darren Sproles, becoming familiar with Corey Hall, becoming familiar with Shaun Rogers, all these new players that we haven't had the time with maybe that you normally would have. Fortunately those players I mentioned are healthy, we've gotten a lot of snaps already, and I think that's one area where we really wanted to pay attention to our installation to not move along so fast where all of a sudden you're not allowing these guys to play at full speed."

Was this your most active free agency period?

"Well I would say it was the most unique. I haven't gone back and counted, but certainly it was different from a time frame, you know some of these have happened while we were in training camp; practices had begun. From a number standpoint it would probably be up there with one or two of the other seasons."

You didn't have a lot of time with Joique Bell last year because he came right at the end of the season. What does he bring. What does he show you?

"On tape, from past experience when we've seen him and Ryan Pace and his staff have done a good job at really looking at players like him. He stood out, he's elusive, has speed, can run with power, I think we'll see him play quite a bit tomorrow night and he's had a good camp so far. He's picked things up, I think it's helped he's been here the last half of last season. He's a confident player. I think he can help in the kicking game, He'll have snaps tomorrow night as well in that area. He's been a good surprise to watch."

When you talk about evaluations just for this first game, are there any priorities like the guys that are playing for roster spots, making sure you don't miss out on a young guy that you haven't seen before?

"I think more than anything, we spent time in a meeting last night for quite a while of just going through how do we see every position group playing, and staying on the phase that we're in and I think the bigger challenge is how you integrate the kicking game because it's not as simple in special teams. So, certainly the discussions last night took place where we want to see player "X" make sure he gets at least ten snaps in the kicking game, he's going to get X number of snaps at linebacker, safety, or full-back. We try to cover every player that's up in a jersey and know exactly what we think he's going to get from a snap count. Now, there's no exact science to that but we want to make sure we're on the same page and there aren't any surprises, we want to make sure these guys are getting in, there's certain players we don't need to see as much of, there's other players we need to see more of. We just try to communicate that and that's a challenge during the course of the game, you know, with the size of the roster right now and I think it's important that our players understand certainly the importance of these preseason games. I know it's a preseason game that won't count on the regular season schedule, however, it's very important for guys that are competing for roster spots. So, we talk about the sideline; how we handle that from the start of the game to the finish and just the way we approach the preseason."

 

Saints-Niners

New Orleans Saints backups auditioning for all 32 teams Friday night | NOLA.com
James Varney - In the Saints preseason opener Friday night against the San Francisco 49ers, more than a New Orleans roster spot could be at stake for some players, Coach Sean Payton and others noted.

Saints' Colston, Arrington out for Friday's preseason opener | wwltv.com New Orleans
Bradley Handwerger - Saints receiver Marques Colston missed his sixth consecutive practice and will not play in Friday’s preseason opener against San Francisco, coach Sean Payton said.

New Orleans Saints Preseason: 10 Things to Watch in Exhibition Games | sportsnola.com
Ken Trahan - We will get our first look at the 2011 New Orleans Saints in game action on Friday night against the San Francisco 49ers in the Superdome.

Video: Saints-49ers Preseason Preview | sportsnola.com
Ken Trahan and Lenny Vangilder breakdown what to expect from the Saints first exhibition game of 2011.

Saints Camp: Strange offseason now transitions Into preseason game mode | sportsnola.com
Lenny Vanglider - A few of the newest New Orleans Saints put on a black and gold practice jersey for the first time last Thursday. Now, in less than 48 hours, they will put on their game jerseys for the Saints’ preseason opener against the San Francisco 49ers in the Superdome.

Back to Football: Saints vs. 49ers Preview | neworleanssaints.com
Staff report - New Orleans opens the preseason vs. San Francisco Friday night at 7 pm CT in the Superdome.

Saints-49ers Broadcast Information | neworleanssaints.com
Staff report - The New Orleans Saints will battle the San Francisco 49ers on Friday, Aug. 12, at 7 pm CT in the Superdome. Below is information on how to watch and listen to Friday night’s game:

 

Lagniappe

Status reports on big-name rookies - NFC South Blog | ESPN.com
Pat Y. - Preseason games are about to start with the Saints, Falcons and Buccaneers playing Friday. The Panthers play Saturday.

New Orleans Saints trivia and tidbits: A bad season with a 'kick' in 1970 | sportsnola.com
William Taylor - The 1970 black and gold campaign was easily defined by turbulence starting in late January when head coach Tom Fears and general manager Vic Schwenk engaged in a fist fight over the Raiders' picking Gerald Irons in the third round. Schwenk didn’t have him on the Saints draft board, and Fears questioned the omission.

Gov. Bobby Jindal, Mayor Mitch Landrieu inspect all that's shiny and new at Superdome | NOLA.com
Nakia Hogan's take on the tour.

Former New Orleans Saints scout Bob Whitman dies at 86 | NOLA.com
John Reid - He worked for the Saints for 15 years.

New Orleans Saints alumni give West Bank youth a pep talk | NOLA.com
Gina Rivere Babin - The purpose was to motivate the children about going back to school and to improve lifestyles.

Almost 13,000 New Orleans Saints Super Bowl championship license tags sold | NOLA.com
Ed Anderson - Plate continues to be a steady seller eight months after it was unveiled.

 

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OK, I'll be first

Even though it’s preseason, I am PUMPED!!!!!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!!!!!!

CHOOT 'EM LIZ-BETH, CHOOT 'EM!

by Cajun in CA on Aug 11, 2011 9:33 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

I'm pumped too!! Just to see the Black n Gold on the field!

That's interesting. You know what makes me sad? YOU DO!!! Maybe we should chug on over to mambypandyland...or maybe we can find some self confidence for you YA JACKWAGON!!!!!!

(tears) Tissue?.....Crybaby.

by Jricky70 on Aug 11, 2011 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

and I'll rec'd you and join your excitement!!!!!!

It’s a “chain rec”.

get it?

get it?

"It ain't about how hard you hit, it is about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward, how much can you take and KEEP MOVING FORWARD. That's how winning is done!" - Rocky

by Dan Kelly on Aug 12, 2011 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I’ll join the party

There's a fine line between love and hate.

by cscmember on Aug 12, 2011 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

ok everyone

i wont be able to watch the game until the recast on saturday. so ill just ask you all now to not mention the game or the score or anything until after ive seen it. please and thank you

"If you ask ME, though, any game without push-ups, hits, burns or noogies is a sissy game" Calvin to Hobbes

by maybetoday on Aug 11, 2011 9:39 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

me too

wife’s birthday/our wedding anniversary Friday, so we’ll be spending quality time together – no laptop, no blogging, no internet feed of game

I’ll try to be in media blackout mode until I watch the rebroadcast, but it’ll be tough, since I have to compile a post-game links collection early Saturday morning…

Thumbs up, everybody...
For rock and roll!!!!

by Hans Petersen on Aug 11, 2011 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol working on the net

while blind folded? i just think everyone should be nice to us and pretend the game happens on saturday night. its not to much to ask.

"If you ask ME, though, any game without push-ups, hits, burns or noogies is a sissy game" Calvin to Hobbes

by maybetoday on Aug 11, 2011 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

btw PROPS

to all you guys for all you do for csc. cant say it enough, my girl calls you guys my mistress.

"If you ask ME, though, any game without push-ups, hits, burns or noogies is a sissy game" Calvin to Hobbes

by maybetoday on Aug 11, 2011 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would assume

They are MUCH cheaper…..no offense

Peyton, I can eat Oreos faster than you!!!!

by mknkachow on Aug 11, 2011 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Who you calling cheap?

There's a fine line between love and hate.

by cscmember on Aug 11, 2011 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey

I said no offense.

Peyton, I can eat Oreos faster than you!!!!

by mknkachow on Aug 11, 2011 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

hey im like mcdonalds

fast, cheap and easy. its pretty hard to offend me.

"If you ask ME, though, any game without push-ups, hits, burns or noogies is a sissy game" Calvin to Hobbes

by maybetoday on Aug 11, 2011 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

That’s funny. I heard ya momma was like micky d’s. It must be true that the fruit doesn’t fall far from the tree.

There's a fine line between love and hate.

by cscmember on Aug 12, 2011 6:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

I’m not cool with being called your mistress. (TWYMS)©

There's a fine line between love and hate.

by cscmember on Aug 11, 2011 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Happy Anniversary and Happy Birthday to your wife.

"It ain't about how hard you hit, it is about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward, how much can you take and KEEP MOVING FORWARD. That's how winning is done!" - Rocky

by Dan Kelly on Aug 12, 2011 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

thank you, Dan

I’ll be sure to tell her you said so…

Thumbs up, everybody...
For rock and roll!!!!

by Hans Petersen on Aug 13, 2011 7:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Did you guys have a good night?

What did you do?

What did you get her for her gift(s)?

If it’s private you don’t really have to share.

"It ain't about how hard you hit, it is about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward, how much can you take and KEEP MOVING FORWARD. That's how winning is done!" - Rocky

by Dan Kelly on Aug 13, 2011 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

We both worked a long and difficult week (and she's still on the long rehab path of major back surgery), so we ordered in from a nice restaurant we haven't eaten at in a long while

she had artichoke fritters and grilled whitefish, while I had a mandarin-style filet mignon with skillet potatoes
 dessert was gluten-free “think thin” soy bars

we just completely relaxed and watched our favorite show, Doc Martin on PBS

I gave her a cute birthday card and funny anniversary card, while she gave me a cute anniversary card with some special “message” magnets (“Love is a cosmic phenomenon.” and “One day can bend your life.”).

I also gave her a pair of Frank Lloyd Wright-inspired design earrings she’s been wanting, and then a surprise -“The Little Book of Saints”, has reproductions of 94 holy saint cards from the late 1800’s and early 1900’s. We’re not religious in the least as adults, but we were both raised Catholic (her) and Episcopalian (me), and she loves the stories of the saints and has taught world religions for years.

Within the book, I was able to inscribe it thusly…“Since we both love the Saints so much…” Ha!

Tonight’s a treat, too, because we’re being taken out to dinner by her son and his wife. Two nights in a row of no cooking – AWESOME, and I still got to have my grilled filet. Tonight I have my eye on the buttermilk fried chicken served at the Harvest Restaurant in Louisville, KY. For all you foodies, here’s a link.

We’ll return after dinner tonight and then watch the funny chick-flick You Again on Starz from 9-10:30, followed by the Saints-Niners rebroadcast on NFL network, and then call it a night.

This breakdown, while seeming quite thorough, of course excludes other intimate personal details of our plans…that is all.

Thumbs up, everybody...
For rock and roll!!!!

by Hans Petersen on Aug 13, 2011 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sounds like you guys had a great time. Cool!

"One day can bend your life." SO TRUE!

August 29th 2005 is one of them for many people, including me. So many bad, and so many more GREAT things happened (to me) because of that day.

January 24th 2011 is another one for me – met me current g/f, who is amazing.

"It ain't about how hard you hit, it is about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward, how much can you take and KEEP MOVING FORWARD. That's how winning is done!" - Rocky

by Dan Kelly on Aug 13, 2011 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

I’ll likely make some kind of post after the game, so watch for PRESEASON SPOILER ALERT in the post titles. ><

by Jimbo03 on Aug 12, 2011 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

whelp

the transcripts answered one of my questions for Dave.

i too will not be able to watch the game tom. 311 in houston is too sweet to pass up. then its off to FL. we’ll be back just in time for the Saints@Texans. wooooWHO DAT!

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You wiped the floor with victory, then puked until you fell asleep - Flogging Molly

by cockynessIsWHODAT on Aug 11, 2011 10:43 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

saw 311 a few times in small clubs.

one time it was with this “unknown” band opening up for them called no doubt. anyway, enjoy the show and pay attention to p-nut, he is an amazing bass player.

"If you ask ME, though, any game without push-ups, hits, burns or noogies is a sissy game" Calvin to Hobbes

by maybetoday on Aug 11, 2011 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I’ve seen 311 a few times in BR & NOLA. they’re pretty much my all-time fave, so I’m stoked to see them again.

and i’ll agree with you cscm, the drums are SICK

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You wiped the floor with victory, then puked until you fell asleep - Flogging Molly

by cockynessIsWHODAT on Aug 12, 2011 7:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

The drums, man….The drums….

There's a fine line between love and hate.

by cscmember on Aug 11, 2011 10:52 PM CDT reply actions  

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