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49ers @ Saints: Players to Watch

The Saints are taking on the San Francisco 49ers tonight in their first preseason game of the 2011 NFL season. Sean Payton said we can expect the Saints starters to play only 14-16 snaps tonight, with the second teamers playing a majority of the game and the third string closing things out late. Not surprising since they are two installs behind their normal preseason progress. 

That means we can probably expect a sloppy game with more than a few penalties and some atrocious tackling. But regardless of who's on the field for the black & gold, there will always be something to keep an eye on as it relates to the development of the the final 2011 squad. Here's a quick take on who I think Saints fans should be paying close attention to while watching the first Saints game being played in a newly renovated Superdome. 

Star-divide

Mark Ingram/Joique Bell/Darren Sproles

I don't know about you but I think I'm most excited to see Mark Ingram make his debut. INGRAMANIA!!! is officially here! There has been so much talk about how amazing he is, my interest is piqued at record levels. But if he's really that good and Payton plans on using him heavily, chances are he won't play too much. That's okay because we should get our first glimpse of Darren Sproles in a Saints uniform as well. If that wasn't enough, Joique Bell is also supposed to be turning heads during training camp and the coaches will probably want to see how he performs in game situations. Either way, most of the game should be exciting to watch as we're introduced to this new and improved Saints rushing attack.  

 

Montez Billings

I've heard a few people say positive things about the sophomore wide receiver's performance thus far this training camp. He's battling for one, maybe two, available spots on the final roster and with Adrian Arrington sitting this game out, this could be a huge opportunity for Billings to shine. 

 

New Kids on the Block

The Saints have a lot of new faces all along the defensive line, most notably Shaun Rogers, Aubrayo FranklinCameron Jordan and Turk McBride. Some may play significantly less than others tonight but it will be our first chance to see what each of them might bring to the table when it comes to an improved defensive front. 

 

Will Herring/Jonathan Casillas/Martez Wilson

If you're one of those Saints fans that really wants to see the team finally improve the outside linebacker position, these are the guys you'll want to keep your eyes on. Will Herring has drawn a good bit of praise thus far during training camp and I'd say the leading candidate to become a starter. Also look to see whether Casillas can pick up where he left off last summer before getting injured. This will be our first chance to sneak a peek at third round draft pick Martez Wilson. 

 

Not Drew Brees

We know he's going to be the starting quarterback. This is usually our only chance to see Chase Daniel actually get some game action with the exception of a meaningless late-season game and certainly our only chance to watch Sean Canfield. With Brees only taking a handful of snaps tonight, it will be the clipboard holders who will have a chance to prove their mettle. Let's see what they've got!

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That means we can probably expect a sloppy game with more than a few penalties and some atrocious tackling.

I expect nothing but a perfect game from my Saints that will lead to a horrendous trouncing of the 49ers (like the Patriots-Jags game last night!) I know…wishful thinking!

"It's about time that something good like this happened." - Drew Brees

by SaintsFanMD on Aug 12, 2011 6:33 AM CDT reply actions  

Pats played VERY few starters (no Brady, Ochocinco, Welker etc). I wonder how much ball time our starters will truly see.

by snowboard_kat on Aug 12, 2011 6:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

I know...I know

Which makes their game score all that much scarier! Are their backups really that good, or are the ones at Jax that bad? Probably a combo of both!

"It's about time that something good like this happened." - Drew Brees

by SaintsFanMD on Aug 12, 2011 7:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Mallett

led 4 straight TD Drives. If he keeps that up during the preseason…..well, nothing’s going to happen. But he’s gonna make a lot of GM’s sick to their stomach for passing him up.

by mattxlegend on Aug 12, 2011 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

or bill b will trade him for a bucket-load of 1st and 2nd round future picks

by hrp on Aug 12, 2011 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

was Mallett the Arkansas QB?

"It ain't about how hard you hit, it is about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward, how much can you take and KEEP MOVING FORWARD. That's how winning is done!" - Rocky

by Dan Kelly on Aug 12, 2011 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Indeed he was.

I think he was a third round draft choice, but he played like a first rounder last night!

"It's about time that something good like this happened." - Drew Brees

by SaintsFanMD on Aug 12, 2011 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

And appeared to be sober. Huh.

It's getting hard to be someone but it all works out, it doesn't matter much to me

by stujo4 on Aug 12, 2011 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Have news for ya'll

Mallet was the most NFL ready QB in the Draft Pool. Can’t believe some of the fools taken before him, because he what, smoked Mary Jane in college? What really rankles me the worst, is most of the self-righteous prigs out there, are the same people I partied with in the 70’s.

INGRAMANIA equals LOMBARDI 2012

by cajuncommando58 on Aug 13, 2011 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

i don’t know too much about him, so I am not passing judgement based on a 30 minute tv show… but, from what little I saw of him in interviews, he sounded like an IDIOT.

Low IQ… Low football IQ.

I could be totally wrong.

Maybe they can coach him up.

I have no idea. But that was my impression of Mallet

"It ain't about how hard you hit, it is about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward, how much can you take and KEEP MOVING FORWARD. That's how winning is done!" - Rocky

by Dan Kelly on Aug 13, 2011 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

If your talking about the Gruden Interview

I have to admit he looked really bad. Have followed him here in AR and he is really pretty good. Of course always but the gris-gris on him when he was playing LSU.

INGRAMANIA equals LOMBARDI 2012

by cajuncommando58 on Aug 13, 2011 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah that was the place where i saw the biggest chunk of footage on him. and a couple of other short interviews on ESPN et al.

"It ain't about how hard you hit, it is about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward, how much can you take and KEEP MOVING FORWARD. That's how winning is done!" - Rocky

by Dan Kelly on Aug 13, 2011 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm going to be zeroing in on special teams.

Hopefully we can do much better in the field position battle than we did last year. Knowing Sean, however, we’ll probably see a pretty vanilla game.

The scariest thing about putting Drew in at all is knowing that on the defensive side there are rookies and recent acquisitions that are going to be doing their damndest to make the 49rs squad by making a “highlight” statement.

Dave, I just want to take a sec and congradulate you on the great job you (and the gang of five at the bottom of the page) did holding this thing together during the lockout. You guys always came up with at least ONE thing to attract members’ attention and spark “lively” debates.

There’ll be a little extra something on your paycheck this week! ;-)

Fat, dumb, and happy. Hell, two out of three ain't bad!

I Want To Die In My Sleep Like My Grandpa – Not Screaming and Yelling Like His Passengers.

by Just 'Nother Day on Aug 12, 2011 6:37 AM CDT reply actions  

Agree that Payton will prob keep things pretty vanilla. I’m curious to see how Harbaugh handles his gig as HC. SanFran is coming off a 6-10 season and with a new HC and a lot of expectations already voiced by the press, will they come out swinging or play it vanilla as well?

(also props to Dave and the gang).

by snowboard_kat on Aug 12, 2011 6:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

I’m curious to see how Harbaugh handles his gig

(twyms)© You are a strange girl, kat.

There's a fine line between love and hate.

by cscmember on Aug 12, 2011 7:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

you leave my momma out of this :)

by snowboard_kat on Aug 12, 2011 7:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

would momma snowboard approve of cold p? more importantly, will poppa snowboard say yes when we have our first CSC engagement?

by hrp on Aug 12, 2011 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Poppa snowboard has his shotgun waiting for the day cold p steps foot on his property.

There's a fine line between love and hate.

by cscmember on Aug 12, 2011 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

You must have met poppa snowboard. He’s a nice guy and all but that lazy eye is hard not to look at. It’s like it follows you around the room.

There's a fine line between love and hate.

by cscmember on Aug 12, 2011 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

and what’s this …©

have you copyrighted TWYMS ? LOL.

by snowboard_kat on Aug 12, 2011 7:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

MBT took care of that for me. The money is slow right now but I expect it will puck up with time.

There's a fine line between love and hate.

by cscmember on Aug 12, 2011 7:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

"Puck up"?

That could go one of two ways…

It was good while it lasted.

by MtnExile on Aug 12, 2011 7:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

Puck up much? :-)

Fat, dumb, and happy. Hell, two out of three ain't bad!

I Want To Die In My Sleep Like My Grandpa – Not Screaming and Yelling Like His Passengers.

by Just 'Nother Day on Aug 12, 2011 8:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

It’s not my first puck up and it wont be my last.

There's a fine line between love and hate.

by cscmember on Aug 12, 2011 8:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Pobody's Nerfect

Thumbs up, everybody...
For rock and roll!!!!

by Hans Petersen on Aug 13, 2011 7:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

I see a TWYMS t-shirt empire in your future…

by snowboard_kat on Aug 12, 2011 7:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

as the accidental originator of the CSC copyright does that mean that I get a small cut of the TWYMS © action?

by hrp on Aug 12, 2011 8:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

You haven’t gotten your check yet? I’m gonna have to keep a closer eye on MBT.

There's a fine line between love and hate.

by cscmember on Aug 12, 2011 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hoping for good things for Montez Billings

I thought he did great last preseason. He seems like a big target that can go up to fight for a jump ball. I’m cheering for him to make the team over Arrington.

"I want to hand this trophy to the MVP of the Super Bowl -- and the MVP of the entire league.''
-- Saints coach Sean Payton, handing the Vince Lombardi Trophy to Drew Brees after Super Bowl 44.

by VAsaintsfan on Aug 12, 2011 7:45 AM CDT reply actions  

Nice List

I’m also interested to see how the offensive tackle plays out over preseason, mainly seeing if Charles Brown has been making any progress, and if Stinchcomb can hold onto his spot (which I don’t think he will).

by shipgoalie05 on Aug 12, 2011 7:54 AM CDT reply actions  

Remember Steve Spurrier’s first pre-season game? The good thing about this short and peculiar training camp is that Harbaugh likely didn’t have enough time to thoroughly game-plan for the Saints in the “this is my first ever NFL game as a coach and I want to prove to the world I can do this and start my team off with a confidence building big win” kind of move we saw Spurrier use his first year.

Something Payton said in last nights timely training camp re-cap (thanks for those Hans and Jon) piqued my interest. He mentioned something along the lines of “new coaching staff with no film on them yet” and how he’s eager to see how our players respond to things “they’ve not seen in practice” due to this.

Part of me thinks even a vanilla Saints is so much deeper and experienced and no contest for the 49ers, so much so that it will be a Patriots/Jags type blow-out; while the other part is zoned in on what Payton said and thinking um, not so fast. The biggest part just hopes to see no injuries, great special teams coverage, and plenty of explosive plays for our offense with none given up by our defense.

Stop wearing a wishbone where your backbone ought to be. Would you be convicted in court of being a Christian? Happiness is shared, and comes from sharing.

by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Aug 12, 2011 8:00 AM CDT reply actions  

It feels nice to have turned the tables on the niners. I still remember when we were just starting to show signs of winning and they were dominant and slapped us around all the time. And I can still remember Jerry Rice spiking the ball inside the one and the refs gifting the TD for him. Glad those days are behind us…

by BlackandGold4ever on Aug 12, 2011 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

I also can’t wait to see who “that guy” we’ll all fall in love with is— you know, the 2 or 3 gems in the rough who look like world beaters against the 3rd stringers.

Stop wearing a wishbone where your backbone ought to be. Would you be convicted in court of being a Christian? Happiness is shared, and comes from sharing.

by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Aug 12, 2011 8:01 AM CDT reply actions  

whom everyone will proclaim as “beast” and panic that the Saints cut him cause they are convinced he’ll never make it to our practice squad— when 90% of the time he either is signed to it or not signed by anyone at all. That guy.

Stop wearing a wishbone where your backbone ought to be. Would you be convicted in court of being a Christian? Happiness is shared, and comes from sharing.

by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Aug 12, 2011 8:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

Gems

We have done a good job finding solid players that would usually play during the third and fourth quarters of pre-season games (PT, Ivory, Colston). Arrington is a strange case. He has been destined for the practice squad despite fine showings during the preseason. I’m less interested in the draft picks tonight. I want to see how our undrafted free agents perform.

by tmac641 on Aug 12, 2011 8:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I know what you mean, Preston. Say for instance, a guy like [REDACTED]…..I can’t believe people are still feenin’ for that clown to come back. Good riddance, I say.

(I couldn’t bear to see his name in print)

I've got two words for ya.....Whit Bissell

by BewareofDog on Aug 12, 2011 8:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Preston, I think you are asking the question – who will be the 2011 Junior Galette…. speaking of which, it will be interesting to see how Junior goes as I cant remember him being mentioned at all this training camp (unlike 2010 when it was all anyone was talking about)…..

by hrp on Aug 12, 2011 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Junior Galette

It will be interesting to see him play as a gunner on special teams. I don’t think I have ever seen a defensive lineman play gunner.

As far as no one mentioning him yet, he wasn’t mentioned last year much until we got to see him in a game. He will probably make a few plays tonight and be back in the limelight.

I guess if I had to choose one player to watch tonight it would be Joique Bell, who is also a part of almost every special team.

"Cocaine is a hell of a drug" Rick James

by DrWhoDat on Aug 12, 2011 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

agree about bell. the guy should get plenty of reps tonight as i hope pierre barely sees the field, and ingram only see a handful of carries. however i do recall there being a lot of talk last year, even before the first pre-season game, about junior – especially by bobby etc on WWL.

by hrp on Aug 12, 2011 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

okay, I didn’t listen to WWL much last pre-season, was working evenings.

Oh, in case anyone is interested here are some highlights on Bell.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EDCp5rWqzI&feature=related

"Cocaine is a hell of a drug" Rick James

by DrWhoDat on Aug 12, 2011 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Junior Galette was Gregg Williams' whipping boy last preseason

Williams has said nothing but good things about him so far this year. Same with Patrick Robinson. Nothing but good things coming from the coaching staff. Let’s see how that translates on the field

Peyton, I can eat Oreos faster than you!!!!

by mknkachow on Aug 12, 2011 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

I was just thinking about that guy DrwhoDat

I’m anxious to see what he can bring to the table this pre-season.

And of course I’ll be zeroing on in Ingram and special teams as well

That's interesting. You know what makes me sad? YOU DO!!! Maybe we should chug on over to mambypandyland...or maybe we can find some self confidence for you YA JACKWAGON!!!!!!

(tears) Tissue?.....Crybaby.

by Jricky70 on Aug 12, 2011 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Is everyone seeing this same nestea ad?

With T on the left and A on the right? I’m having a tough time focusing on the players to watch.

by GlackAndBold on Aug 12, 2011 8:24 AM CDT reply actions  

sorry there is iced tea somewhere on the page…. i didn’t notice. i thought “the dave” had moved into selling T&A and was about to insert my credit card details.

by hrp on Aug 12, 2011 8:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

HA!

There's a fine line between love and hate.

by cscmember on Aug 12, 2011 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

Jr was mentioned. Tripple G said that he didn't have to yell at him once during camp and that he is having a good camp . Last year he was yelled at very, very often.

I think the Saints will be quite vanilla tonight and the 49ers will play extremely hard, but the Saints still come out on top. That’s the difference between these two teams. The 49ers have a way to go yet.
 Cold Pizza will keep a close eye on Joique Bell tonight and so will I. In my opinion Joique Bell can easily make this roster with a good game tonight. I hate to say it, but if Ivory continues to fail his physical, he may be in trouble.

by tommy v on Aug 12, 2011 9:16 AM CDT reply actions  

You know what would really piss me off?

Seeing Lance Moore, or Pierre Thomas awaiting a kickoff or punt return. I hope to God coach doesn’t put those players at risk like that. Just use those guys at their regular positions.

by tommy v on Aug 12, 2011 9:27 AM CDT reply actions  

when the/mr/sir dave sells out to “the man” he does it in style. thanks for thinking of us boss.

by hrp on Aug 12, 2011 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

How's she even getting any tea out of the bottle?

She’s got her lips sealed all the way around it.

by bewrong on Aug 12, 2011 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

TWYMDS? That’s What Yo Momma Said. Has MBT contacted you about that check, hrp?

There's a fine line between love and hate.

by cscmember on Aug 12, 2011 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I used to love that Lipton Ice Tea commercial back in the 70's

When the guy would gulp down through the ice cubes then fall in the pool.

Perfect for 95 degree hot humid days

That's interesting. You know what makes me sad? YOU DO!!! Maybe we should chug on over to mambypandyland...or maybe we can find some self confidence for you YA JACKWAGON!!!!!!

(tears) Tissue?.....Crybaby.

by Jricky70 on Aug 12, 2011 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

Called "The Nestea Plunge"

You think you know, and you don't know, and you never, ever, will.-Jim Mora Sr.
I understand ....nothing.-Michael Scott
The Future is Unwritten.-Joe Strummer
"I don't dance to DIdo dude"-Tommy Saxondale

by metryman on Aug 12, 2011 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Those were the fun days!

That's interesting. You know what makes me sad? YOU DO!!! Maybe we should chug on over to mambypandyland...or maybe we can find some self confidence for you YA JACKWAGON!!!!!!

(tears) Tissue?.....Crybaby.

by Jricky70 on Aug 12, 2011 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ahhhhh

You think you know, and you don't know, and you never, ever, will.-Jim Mora Sr.
I understand ....nothing.-Michael Scott
The Future is Unwritten.-Joe Strummer
"I don't dance to DIdo dude"-Tommy Saxondale

by metryman on Aug 12, 2011 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Really

it must be excellent iced tea!

"Emancipate yourself from mental slavery, none but ourselves can free our minds" -Bob Marley

by PanheadCatahoula on Aug 12, 2011 9:57 AM CDT reply actions  

looks like the air-con is working a little too well if that pic of Rita is anything to go by.
Either that or m imagination is working overtime.

That could`ve been me,a useless gnome* fishing
for turds in a birthing pool.

by saint_chew on Aug 12, 2011 10:58 AM CDT reply actions  

What?

There's a fine line between love and hate.

by cscmember on Aug 12, 2011 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

T's to the left of me, A's to the right.

And I’m stuck in the middle with Ya’ll. Just saying.

"Daddy, them cigarettes are gonna kill you". My aunts last words to my 96 year old grandpa before he fell out of bed and broke his neck reaching for a full pack.

by KilnBill on Aug 12, 2011 11:16 AM CDT reply actions  

GAWD... the wait is killing

the fact that i can’t watch this game is killing me… ugh!

i’m looking forward to seeing junior, wilson, and mcdaniel… i hope those guys have an awesome night!

by nanvinnie on Aug 12, 2011 11:26 AM CDT reply actions  

That means we can probably expect a sloppy game with more than a few penalties and some atrocious tackling

Hopefully the penalties would not be like the Denver game last night where the offense recieved 3 offensive penalties on the same play. If that wasn’t strange enough, the defense declined all three penalties.

"I can eat oreos faster than him" Scott Fujita's take on Payton Manning SB44

by jeremysherwin on Aug 12, 2011 12:52 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm going to throw a name in there

Tyler Lorenzen. He’s a little bit of a long shot to make the team. But, his bio is interesting. He played 2 years as a QB in jr college in California and then played 2 years as a QB at Uconn, all the while being from Iowa. At 6’5", he’s now been converted to TE and could be one of Payton’s “undeclared” projects. He loves “creating” players he can utilize the way he wants to- such as 3rd and short or goaline or whatever. I think he is interested in having 3 TEs on the team, and being able to use 2 TE formations on occasion to make match ups difficult. Possibly a practice squad candidate (I think) . He could also serve as an emergency QB. Anyone have any info or opinions? Do you see the Saints keeping an add’l TE after Graham and Thomas? I could see him being a guy that payton creates a small, well-defined role for and uses him to his best advantage. Could help if he plays special teams also0 seems we could be a little light there.

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by Philinwood on Aug 12, 2011 2:35 PM CDT reply actions  

Is Montez Billings going to be the next Adrien Arington?

The guy who many people seem to like (inexplicably), who never gets any regular season play, who barely hang on to the roster, while many people call for him to get some regular season play time (inexplicably).

Is this how it starts – a guy hears from a guy that a player might be good… then that spreads through fan-dom… and they hold on to that possibility until the guy is finally released from the team three years later?

"It ain't about how hard you hit, it is about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward, how much can you take and KEEP MOVING FORWARD. That's how winning is done!" - Rocky

by Dan Kelly on Aug 12, 2011 3:18 PM CDT reply actions  

I think Arrington has shown some flashes of brilliance

pre-season last year and some in the regular season. It’s a hard task when you don’y play regularly or practice with the 1st team regularly ( or get injured)

Rod Harper did pretty good last night for the Eagles- but he still may be available when the cuts happen …….I think he can play in this league..

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by Philinwood on Aug 12, 2011 4:17 PM CDT reply actions  

Arrington is listed as 6’3" and 192lbs. I’ll bet he’s really 185. Meachem is 6’2" 210. I don’t think Arrington can last in the NFL. Too skinny and fragile.

It's getting hard to be someone but it all works out, it doesn't matter much to me

by stujo4 on Aug 12, 2011 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

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