Saints Sign Tackles Alex Barron and George Foster, Release Others
by Dave Cariello on Aug 3, 2011 11:51 AM CDT
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PrintThe Saints have made some more roster moves this morning, signing a couple of offensive tackles for added depth on the front line. The team has added Alex Barron, formerly of the Cowboys, and George Foster, most recently of the UFL's Omaha Nighthawks. Per their official Twitter account:
Other transactions that Payton announced after practice: the Saints agreed to terms with OTs Alex Barron & George Foster....
To help make some room, the Saints have released kicker Jacob Rogers and placed LB Jeremiha Hunter on IR, which means his season is over and he does not count against the 90-player roster limit.
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I wonder if the Saints will move Alex Barron to Gaurd and see if he excels there. Leonard Davis and Robert Gallery were both terrible at Tackle (in space), but made pro-bowls playing “in a phone booth” at Guard. Carl Nicks was drafted in the 5th round at Tackle, but looks All-Pro at Guard. Just a thought.
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by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Aug 3, 2011 11:57 AM CDT reply actions
I’d call that his best shot to make the 53 man roster.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
Don’t see why he wouldn’t be on the roster. If he can play guard, seems pretty much guaranteed barring injury he would be. We only have Strief, Bushrod and Stinch right?
"Winter is coming"
was brown on ir?
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by DrewBreesManCrush on Aug 3, 2011 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions
IR
if the saints elected to put hunter on IR instead of cutting him… then can i assume they find him to be too valuable to cut? what are the benefits of putting him on IR vs cutting him if he’s not going to contribute this season anyway? saw this happen with arnoux… kept him on IR a few years and then released him this year..
can someone explain the idea behind this?
To answer your question
If he gets put on IR this year, he will still technically be on the team, meaning he will be around next season for OTAs and training camp. He will have a year to study the playbook and watch film, and then can have a reasonable shot at making the 53 man roster next season
Peyton, I can eat Oreos faster than you!!!!
What was the length of his contract? If it’s a one year deal, he won’t be on the roster after next year’s free agency period starts.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
The fact
That they put him on IR as opposed to cutting him, to me, means that they want him around again next season. Whether that means resigning him to a new contract or if he already has a multi-year contract
Peyton, I can eat Oreos faster than you!!!!
You guys sure have short memories.
He’s an undrafted free agent. He wasn’t put on IR because they want to keep him. He was put on IR because they have no choice. If a person is injured while playing for you, you have to keep them for the rest of the year. Well, technically, you have one other option, you can waive them injured and hope somebody else takes him off your hands. If nobody claims him, he reverts to your IR then.
So either way, barring a miracle, he’s on your IR for the rest of the year. Or at least until he can pass a physical, and for an Achilles injury that’s quite likely the rest of the year. Or longer, but your responsibility ends with the start of the new league year.
No, the sign that they still want him — if there is one — will come if they keep him around next year. Otherwise, he was a camp body who was lucky enough to get hurt. He’ll at least make some money that way, unlike those who get cut in about a month.
To answer your question
They put…what?…what do you mean I did this already….what are you talking about, I would’ve remembered.
Anyway, FriarBob, I understand your point and thanks for some clarity regarding IR. However, I would say that Payton & co. have a tendency to put young players that they like on IR with different injuries. Adrian Arrington for example was placed on IR with an injury. I can’t remember what it was exactly, but I don’t think it was something that would’ve kept him out all year. That was kind of my thinking on this.
Peyton, I can eat Oreos faster than you!!!!
Chip Vaughn was placed on IR in 2009. He wasn’t retained in 2010.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
On the contrary
He was placed on IR in 2009, then was given a legit shot at making the final 53 in 2010. Couldn’t make the cut, but he was given the shot in training camp and early pre-season games
Peyton, I can eat Oreos faster than you!!!!
Well, technically, you have one other option, you can waive them injured and hope somebody else takes him off your hands. If nobody claims him, he reverts to your IR then.
You also have the option of offering an injury settlement and parting ways. That would ultimately be up to the player, though.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
Thanks Bob. Good explanation.
In Breesus' name we play
by Breesus Christ Superstar on Aug 3, 2011 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions
doesn't he also
get some kinda pay/compensation for the injury with the team. I’ve tried to decipher that in the Old CBA, without much comprehension.
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by cajuncommando58 on Aug 3, 2011 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions
does anybody know
exactly what pick or picks did we get for the reggie bush trade?
Not made public. Believed to be a SWAP of picks, probably related to Reggie’s production. For example if Reggie does __, the saints give Dolphins their 4th for the Dolphins 2nd. If Reggie tanks or stays injured, the Dolphins give a 5th for the Saints 7th. No telling what the actual agreement is, but probably something along that line of thinking.
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by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Aug 3, 2011 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Alex Barron
The dude is a walking disaster. I cannot believe you would want him on your team or near the team or in the stands watching the game. I saw a cowboys game last year where he single-handedly lost the game for the cowboys with unnecessary holding penalties. Literally, the game was on the line, a perfect, game-winning pass was completed, and for no reason at all, nowhere near the play, Barron was busy holding his man. And this was after repeated penalties throughout the game. I hope he never plays a down in the Black and Gold. To paraphrase Mike Singletary, “I’d rather play with 10 men.”
by GnomeChumpsky on Aug 3, 2011 12:28 PM CDT reply actions 5 recs
What he said rec'd
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by cajuncommando58 on Aug 3, 2011 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe I exaggerated a little ...
but it’s still really bad.
by GnomeChumpsky on Aug 3, 2011 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions
nah
I posted on another thread in 7 season he has allowed 31 sacks. Wasn’t even looking at penalties.
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by cajuncommando58 on Aug 3, 2011 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions
and that’s RIGHT tackle.
but, what the heck was Marian Barber doing? Help a brother out on the last effing play of the game!
"It ain't about how hard you hit, it is about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward, how much can you take and KEEP MOVING FORWARD. That's how winning is done!" - Rocky
The dude is worse than Victor Riley. Terrible at Tackle. If it isn’t holding, it’s a false start. He’s just not good in space. I think EVERYONE agrees with that.
Either the Saints signed him to see how he looks at Guard
or
They signed him to have better than UDFA competition for the second team d-line to practice against. Payton’s had to shorten a few practices because he just doesn’t have enough players at certain positions.
Loomis and Payton aren’t dumb. They won’t keep him unless he adds value to the roster, and the only way he does that is at Guard (talking 53 man roster)
Stop wearing a wishbone where your backbone ought to be. Would you be convicted in court of being a Christian? Happiness is shared, and comes from sharing.
by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Aug 3, 2011 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions
That was the Washington game…I remember that one
by BlackandGold4ever on Aug 3, 2011 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Me too. I laughed so hard. I love nothing more than seeing Dallas self destruct.
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by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Aug 3, 2011 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
I second
In Breesus' name we play
by Breesus Christ Superstar on Aug 3, 2011 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions
You forgot to mention
He was part of an offensive line that allowed their starting QB to be molested at the hands of the Giants, rendering him helpless to an injury that sidelined him for the remainder of the season. EFF Alex Barron, I would rather have Vern Troyer at RT.
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by SaintsFanInIraq on Aug 4, 2011 1:56 AM CDT up reply actions
welcome to CSC luvdem
boy that’s a hard one to pic an avatar for… maybe this
or this
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by cajuncommando58 on Aug 3, 2011 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions
would have been easy if luvdemsaints was luvdemsaintsations instead.
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by cajuncommando58 on Aug 4, 2011 6:24 AM CDT up reply actions
I love dem Saints too.... WELCOME TO CSC!!
"It ain't about how hard you hit, it is about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward, how much can you take and KEEP MOVING FORWARD. That's how winning is done!" - Rocky
Kinda new to CSC and blogs!
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by thukel on Aug 3, 2011 4:41 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
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by Dave Cariello on Aug 3, 2011 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Welcome thukel
afraid your on you own for an avatar. Searched your handle and all I could find is either an Idian sub-caste of a River basin in S.Africa.
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by cajuncommando58 on Aug 4, 2011 1:17 AM CDT up reply actions
This is called an audit
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by cajuncommando58 on Aug 4, 2011 1:18 AM CDT up reply actions
this too
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by cajuncommando58 on Aug 4, 2011 6:17 AM CDT up reply actions
I actually have to do some work every once and a while.
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by cajuncommando58 on Aug 4, 2011 7:41 AM CDT up reply actions
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Yeah, Barron was the other top-rated OT in 2005
Folks had them pretty evenly ranked, I think, and the Rams took him a few picks after we took JB, but Barron struggled to just not be called a bust.
Barron was a bum for the Rams – my St. Louisan in-laws hated him, and last year when they traded Barron for Bobby Carpenter, my father in law called it a “pass the trash” maneuver, and I think both Carpenter and Barron ended up being bums for their new teams, too.
I can’t imagine him making the team, but maybe he’ll get better?
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by cajuncommando58 on Aug 4, 2011 1:21 AM CDT up reply actions
If Barron is on the team
The glass will be empty and in need of frequent refills of high octane alcoholic type adult beverages.
The only problem with having a "Dream Team" is when you wake up and find out it was a nightmare instead.
by SaintsFanInIraq on Aug 4, 2011 1:59 AM CDT up reply actions
I already gave my opinion on Barron here...
but I’ll copy and paste if for you.
Career Sacks Allowed
31
Is this the reason for Romo’s broken collar bone?
7th season/31 sacks=4.43 sacks allowed per season. If you figure he played much as a rookie.
He only allowed 2 last season. Wonder if either was when Tony got hurt.
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by cajuncommando58 on Aug 3, 2011 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions
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by cajuncommando58 on Aug 4, 2011 4:22 AM CDT up reply actions
Ok
Since you want to play that way, why dont you go look up penalties. Dude is not a quality guy, if he was, the Cowboys would have kept him one more year instead of letting a bunch of rookies play.
The only problem with having a "Dream Team" is when you wake up and find out it was a nightmare instead.
by SaintsFanInIraq on Aug 4, 2011 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions
He's lost me cscmember
I already said Barron was a douche bag. What do you think he wants?
You don’t think he’s CP in disguise?
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by cajuncommando58 on Aug 4, 2011 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Hmmm, interesting. Can you have more that one profile? I figured SBN would block a person from having multiple accounts. If you can have multiple accounts then I think kat=coldpizza.
That would be soooo funny
CP(KAT) visits New Orleans and then doesn’t hook up with himself!
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by cajuncommando58 on Aug 5, 2011 1:03 AM CDT up reply actions
Sorry
Was having to read and skim quickly because of a lot of things going on at work. Breaking down how many sacks he gives up painted an OK picture about him. Rest assured though – Not CP.
The only problem with having a "Dream Team" is when you wake up and find out it was a nightmare instead.
by SaintsFanInIraq on Aug 5, 2011 4:32 AM CDT up reply actions
No problem...like a duck
and by that mean is rolls off my back….not the other line that goes with like a duck…ha,ha.
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by cajuncommando58 on Aug 5, 2011 5:24 AM CDT up reply actions
I have the idea that Barron stinks on ice
but, if he comes into camp and plays well enough that the Pay-Loo feel he could benefit the team, I’ll trust their judgment – but I’ll probably say a few GAAAAAA!!!!s at first until I can pull myself together and remind myself that I said I’d trust the Pay-Loo…
Thumbs up, everybody...
For rock and roll!!!!
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