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Five Reasons to Be Optimistic About The 2011 New Orleans Saints Season

Payton is excited about my new found optimism.

After my recent attempts to be a pessimistic person, I'm now going to take the opposite stance and be an optimistic fan. I want to explain to you why I think this coming Saints season will explode with the happiness of Who Dat Nation! Because, in all seriousness, I really had to think hard to be a pessimist about the Saints this year. Yet I had no trouble at all finding reasons to be excited about this team.

I really do feel like the Saints are better than the 2009 team in terms of talent. Brees is still Brees. The running backs are better. The  offensive line is mostly the same if not better. The defensive line has been bolstered. The receivers are still the same great guys, while the secondary is incredibly deep. 

However, those are just some of the reasons why I'm excited about this years team. Make the jump to see the other five reasons.

*Once again, special thanks to bigfatdrunk from Battle Red Blog for letting me use his idea.

Star-divide

#5: Malcolm Jenkins

Have you heard of this guy? I heard he's kinda good. Seriously. The reports from camp are that he's been all over the place. Intercepting Brees, intercepting camp bodies, hitting Mark Ingram so hard his helmet comes off. I'm officially placing Jenkins on my "mancrush" list. Why? Because I seriously believe that Malcolm Jenkins is going to become one of the new elite safeties after the era of Reed and Polamalu is over. It feels great to watch him blossom as well as he has, and it's only going to get better from here my friends.

 

#4: Flying Under the Radar

Have you heard about how awesome the Eagles are? They are soooooo savy! Did you see how savy they were? That must mean they are the inevitable Super Bowl winners! Who needs a season to actually determine that? Because there's no way that having a top tier roster and absolutely no depth will work out over sixteen to nineteen games. I mean, the 2010 Saints didn't have injuries and that worked out fine right?

Seriously speaking, the media is riding high on the Philadelphia Eagles right now while the Saints have kinda stayed under the radar, making signings that really "wow" people. Not just that, but they have some great depth at almost every position. As well, that should lead to a much better special teams unit which will help the team twice over.

 

#3: Culture of Success

How many of you older fans thought that would ever be associated with the New Orleans Saints? "Like I said, this team has already won a Super Bowl. I'm just trying to help them win another one." Those words were said by Aubrayo Franklin when asked why he signed with the Saints over other teams. "He actually had a flight out [of New Orleans] this morning and he never got on it." Those words came from Sean Payton about Olin Kreutz, who chose the Saints offer even though they offered less money.

These players and more are coming to the Saints because they sense the same thing fans do: this team can go all the way this year. The Saints, under Sean Payton and Mickey Loomis, have bred a culture of success that makes other free agents want to come in hopes of getting a Super Bowl ring. They want to come to a team with successful coaches, an elite quarterback and a competent front office.

 

#2: Revamped Running Game

Why is the running game appearing on both the pessimistic and optimistic posts? Because that's how much the 2011 season depends on it. We all saw what happened when the Saints running game breaks down. Now the Saints appear to have fixed most of their problems on the ground in 2010. They added Heisman-winning running back Mark Ingram. They kept my other 'mancrush,' Pierre Thomas. They've kept 'the bruiser' (in more ways than one) Chris Ivory. And they've added speedster Darren Sproles, who is considered to be a better version of Reggie Bush.

This gives Sean Payton more options to play around with and takes away Payton's excuse for not running the ball enough. As for those worried about Mark Ingram being a bust, let's ask NFL Network reporter Albert Breer his opinion on Ingram:

Oh, and Mark Ingram's gonna be a star.

 

#1: Drew Brees

Did you know Drew Brees is still the starting quarterback of the New Orleans Saints? Do you know how awesome that is? Drew Brees is currently an elite QB in the NFL and has the potential to get into the Hall of Fame. As for those still worried about his disappointing 2010 season, I highly recommend you check out my fanpost showing his stats and how they compared to his 2007 season. I seriously believe that Drew Brees is going to show that 2009 is something he can easily duplicate; he just needed some time off and a running game that can actually be utilized.

 

So now that you guys have read my reasons about being pessimistic and optimistic, how do you feel about this season? Are you with me on Train Two Dat? Or are you already prepping your 2012 mock drafts when the Saints will finally draft a first round linebacker?

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Need to hear more about CBs

So far the talk about the Saints secondary has been ALL M Jenkins. What about the CBs? I love hearing Jenkins is evolving into a premier Safety but he can only do so much. With Usama Young in Clev and Jenkins & Harper as premier Safties, what about the guys who’ll be defending Julio Jones & Roddy White(1’s & 2’s) every week?

by fshabazz on Aug 8, 2011 7:14 AM CDT reply actions  

You’ll hear more about them in a piece I wrote called “Its Time To Get Krunk” scheduled to come out in a few days.

Stop wearing a wishbone where your backbone ought to be. Would you be convicted in court of being a Christian? Happiness is shared, and comes from sharing.

by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Aug 8, 2011 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

reply error

INGRAMANIA equals LOMBARDI 2012

by cajuncommando58 on Aug 8, 2011 7:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

I hope you dont treat your wang like that all the time.

by cscmember on Aug 8, 2011 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

That’s better.

Mark Ingram-OROY
Cam Jordan-DROY
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by Alex Swift on Aug 8, 2011 8:08 AM CDT reply actions  

Now You're Talkin!!

Keep the optimism flowing!

That's interesting. You know what makes me sad? YOU DO!!! Maybe we should chug on over to mambypandyland...or maybe we can find some self confidence for you YA JACKWAGON!!!!!!

(tears) Tissue?.....Crybaby.

by Jricky70 on Aug 8, 2011 8:55 AM CDT reply actions   2 recs

YEAH!

"when an opponent is down, kick'em when they're down!" Bobby Hebert

by saintslam on Aug 8, 2011 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Am I the only one that is not seeing this post on the home page?

I’m having to link thru from MY Yahoo Page for this post.

INGRAMANIA equals LOMBARDI 2012

by cajuncommando58 on Aug 8, 2011 9:09 AM CDT reply actions  

It’s not just you. I clicked on the archives to see if I missed any comments over the weekend and saw this story. What Up With Dat?

by cscmember on Aug 8, 2011 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Bug Alert

INGRAMANIA equals LOMBARDI 2012

by cajuncommando58 on Aug 8, 2011 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

At first I thought I forgot to logout at home this morning and I could only see what was on my screen there. I guess not.

by cscmember on Aug 8, 2011 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

I tried logging out and back in

That didn’t work. I’ll E-mail Jon.

INGRAMANIA equals LOMBARDI 2012

by cajuncommando58 on Aug 8, 2011 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don’t know what I did but it’s on my front page for now. I checked a new comment in the injuries post clicked back to the font page and it was here.

by cscmember on Aug 8, 2011 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

I just clicked back and it’s gone again. It must be some sort of bug. I wonder how many people don’t know this post exist.

by cscmember on Aug 8, 2011 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

Should be fixed now.

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by Jon Banks on Aug 8, 2011 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Five Children and It. Great kids tv show.

trapped in grammar and calendars.

by Jay Preece on Aug 8, 2011 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

I only use the Archives, so I wouldn’t know.

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by Dan Kelly on Aug 8, 2011 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm a Saints fan...

Which means I’m an optimist every year. If I could get excited about upcoming seasons and teams back in the ’80’s, I can get ecstatic about this one. This team looks like it’s built to not only win, but DOMINATE on both sides of the ball.

WHO DAT BABY!!!!!!!

CHOOT 'EM LIZ-BETH, CHOOT 'EM!

by Cajun in CA on Aug 8, 2011 10:03 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Hmmmmmm

Interesting points,

Jenkins has come on quite well, but I can’t believe you actually said the secondary is “deep” before you started your list. The depth of the secondary could actually teeter towards a concern IMO.

“Flying under the radar” is a laughable statement. We won a Superbowl in the 2009-2010 season, we have one of the Top 3 QB’s in the league, our receiving corps is pretty darn good, and we have upgraded an ailing running game. We also start the season against the reigning SB champs, and when we win, every eye in the NFL will be watching, and every coach in the NFL will start drawing crosshairs on Brees, Colston, Moore, Sproles, Ingram, PT, Bushrod, Vilma, Jenkins, and the list goes on and on.

Coulture of Success has a very, VERY nice ring to it.

I believe the running game will keep opposing defenses honest. We have a threatening running game as it stands at this moment, I just want to see those threats turn into promises.

Drew Brees – NUFF SAID

The key to life isn't doing what you are told not to do, it is knowing what is worth doing when told not to do it.

by SaintsFanInIraq on Aug 8, 2011 10:11 AM CDT reply actions  

Re: Flying under the radar

Have you heard what most non-Saints fans think? They usually say the Saints aren’t even the best in the division, let alone the conference. You would think the Saints would be up in everyone’s mind, but that’s what happens when your team isn’t on the east coast.

As for corner depth, there are currently 11 defensive backs in camp right now compared to 7 running backs. What more do you want Payloo to do?

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by Jon Banks on Aug 8, 2011 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Re: Re: Flying under the radar

There is no way we are under anyone’s radar. Fans are fans and have a tendency to focus on their own team being superior to all, even though we know that no one is superior to the Saints. When you think under the radar, you have to think of coaches overlooking certain aspects of your team, or discounting your ability to compete – referece Detroit, San Fran, Seattle, St Louis, Jaxonville etc. I stand by my initial opinion -

"Flying under the radar" is a laughable statement.

As for our secondary, let me clarify, we do not have quality depth in the secondary which is my concern. Behind Greer – CB, Porter – Injured, Jenkins – FS, Harper – SS, Robinson – 2nd year in the league and Patrick – Rookie, What does our secondary look like? To me it looks like we have 5 camp bodies 2 Starting Safeties, 2 Starting CB’s and 2 back ups. Hopefully we can find some quality talent that will add quality depth.

The key to life isn't doing what you are told not to do, it is knowing what is worth doing when told not to do it.

by SaintsFanInIraq on Aug 8, 2011 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

As for our secondary, let me clarify, we do not have quality depth in the secondary at safety which is my concern.

FIFY.

Greer, Porter, Robinson, Patrick (and Jenkins) all have man to man “cover” corner skills. No need to play zone. Name any other team with 4 legit cover corners AND that hybrid safety everyone desperately needs.

Stop wearing a wishbone where your backbone ought to be. Would you be convicted in court of being a Christian? Happiness is shared, and comes from sharing.

by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Aug 8, 2011 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Point taken

Porter still dinged, Patrick dinged himself on downing a punt in practice. I will feel much more comfortable when they are healthy and Patrick has a lil more experience.

The key to life isn't doing what you are told not to do, it is knowing what is worth doing when told not to do it.

by SaintsFanInIraq on Aug 8, 2011 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

I completely agree, our corners are weak

Greer and Porter will never make it for a full season. The other guys are not very good. This group scares me.

I also agree that Jenkins is not to be considered a corner no matter how much we have to ask of him in making up for the cb talent deficiencies.

by xen-cuts on Aug 8, 2011 10:38 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

This group scares me.

Like Fred Thomas? Or like Chasin’ D? Or like McKenzie when he was overaggressive and whiffed?

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by stujo4 on Aug 9, 2011 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

You can;t count Jenkins in the CB’s numbers anymore.

He;s gonna be the starting FS, he won’t have time to play CB too.

Patrick hurt himself downing a punt?

Porter has surgery. Yes? And, may miss some time?

Robinson is a virtual rookie.

That leaves Greer… out 5 games in 2009 and 2 games last year.

So….

Yeah, we maybe could use some help at CB.

"It ain't about how hard you hit, it is about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward, how much can you take and KEEP MOVING FORWARD. That's how winning is done!" - Rocky

by Dan Kelly on Aug 8, 2011 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I heard discussions on at least two different national broadcasts regarding the teams to beat in the NFC and the Saints weren’t mentioned at all. It seems like all of the focus is on GB and Philly. That’s fine by me and I hope they start off hot so that all the talk will be about them and the Saints can play with a chip on their shoulder.

by BlackandGold4ever on Aug 9, 2011 6:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

I wouldn’t say that people thinking the Falcons are good equates to us flying under the radar. The Falcons look great. The Saints have made some unflashy acquisitions in the offseason that were still big news (the Sproles story, for example, was widely covered absolutely everywhere), and their draft day moves were a huge story.

Gotta say I agree with most of your article, and I share in your generally optimistic viewpoint, but we’re hardly flying under the radar, adjusting for the usual media Jets/Pats/Steelers/Cowboys biases.

trapped in grammar and calendars.

by Jay Preece on Aug 8, 2011 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

I know what you mean

I look at it this way, 2 years ago, Rex Ryan trash talked the unstoppable Brady and company, talked them down, told them he was gonna beat them, but when he started his press conference before the week three matchup against the Saints, his first words were “Please tell me Drew Brees isn’t playing.” That was before we won a Superbowl, and you know it will only get worse.

The key to life isn't doing what you are told not to do, it is knowing what is worth doing when told not to do it.

by SaintsFanInIraq on Aug 8, 2011 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

“11 defensive backs in camp right now compared to 7 running backs. What more do you want Payloo to do?”

.a. Not counting fullback, we only have 1 RB on the field at a time, where we always have 2 CB’s and often 3 CB’s on the field. So, we should potentially have 3 times as many CB’s to evaluate… if you want to use the ‘camp body’ logic.

.b. There may be 11 in camp, but how many of them are “starting” (can at least start and perform well at nickle) CB’s?

I’m mildly concerned about our CB situation, but I trust SP/GW are gonna get the guys we need in place.

"It ain't about how hard you hit, it is about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward, how much can you take and KEEP MOVING FORWARD. That's how winning is done!" - Rocky

by Dan Kelly on Aug 8, 2011 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

ok I'll rec it

But Brees does not belong at #1. Isn’t it obvious? INGRAMANIA!!

She said "I know what it's like to be dead"

by stujo4 on Aug 8, 2011 10:31 AM CDT reply actions  

What happened to

JOIQUEMANIA!

INGRAMANIA equals LOMBARDI 2012

by cajuncommando58 on Aug 8, 2011 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think...

Someone has been "joique"ing your leg…

CHOOT 'EM LIZ-BETH, CHOOT 'EM!

by Cajun in CA on Aug 8, 2011 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

wait and watch

The Joiquer will prevail.

Wall Street's down, so what
And according to astute market analysts, the world's gonna stop

by stujo4 on Aug 8, 2011 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

It would be accurate to say every athlete begins a “slow decline” immediately following the point they reach their apex. As you seem to think that occurred with Brees in ’09, your prediction is hardly original and could even be correct.

But assuming it is accurate to some degree, how do you extrapolate that into Brees is no longer the single most important piece of the puzzle in the Saints success this year?.

Select any great player in the NFL and make the claim they are beginning a stage of decline. Your overall prediction will always be correct even though it may not become apparent according to your prescribed timetable.

by Drew-Dat on Aug 8, 2011 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

It would be accurate to say every athlete begins a "slow decline" immediately following the point they reach their apex.

Easy on the sweeping generalizations there, pal. Check out Barry Sanders and tell me where that apex is located.

I’m not extrapolating anything. The running game is the big important news this year, not that DREW BREES!!!! is back for another fabulous season that will be nothing like 2010.

Wall Street's down, so what
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by stujo4 on Aug 8, 2011 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

REC’d it. If you want to see Drew Brees have the most tremendous season he’s ever had, give him a legit running game that can be a viable threat with Chase Daniels at QB and the Panthers group of WR’s.

Stop wearing a wishbone where your backbone ought to be. Would you be convicted in court of being a Christian? Happiness is shared, and comes from sharing.

by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Aug 8, 2011 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Can you say "Play Action!", baby!?

I say Drew has at least 4 400yard games this year.

"It ain't about how hard you hit, it is about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward, how much can you take and KEEP MOVING FORWARD. That's how winning is done!" - Rocky

by Dan Kelly on Aug 8, 2011 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

I definitely Rec Dat

The key to life isn't doing what you are told not to do, it is knowing what is worth doing when told not to do it.

by SaintsFanInIraq on Aug 8, 2011 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

The only way any athlete can avoid an eventual decline in skills is to die at the time they reach their peak. That’s not a sweeping generalization, it’s called aging. Sanders simply chose to retire before his decline became apparent on the field.

While the running game may be “the big important news this year” and, if successful, will certainly benefit Brees, it doesn’t negate the fact the Saints success will probably still be more dependent on the success of Brees than any other single factor.

by Drew-Dat on Aug 8, 2011 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sanders simply chose to retire before his decline became apparent on the field.

After 10 full seasons as an NFL running back behind a suspect offensive line. Yes, you are correct.

DREW BREES!!!! DREW BREES!!!

Wall Street's down, so what
And according to astute market analysts, the world's gonna stop

by stujo4 on Aug 8, 2011 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Actually, you’re wrong. Barry decided to retire because he felt that part of his life was complete. Not because he was afraid of declining, or making his decline apparent on the field. So yeah, you’re wrong.

DREW BREES!!! DREW BREES!!

Wall Street's down, so what
And according to astute market analysts, the world's gonna stop

by stujo4 on Aug 8, 2011 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, I thought he retired because the game wasn't fun anymore.

The key to life isn't doing what you are told not to do, it is knowing what is worth doing when told not to do it.

by SaintsFanInIraq on Aug 8, 2011 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

They fired Wayne Fontes after 1996. 2 years with Bobby Ross was enough.

Wall Street's down, so what
And according to astute market analysts, the world's gonna stop

by stujo4 on Aug 8, 2011 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

That could make things un-fun

The key to life isn't doing what you are told not to do, it is knowing what is worth doing when told not to do it.

by SaintsFanInIraq on Aug 8, 2011 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Still laughing at "suspect offensive line."

The only thing suspect about them is I suspect that they weren’t actually an offensive line.

The key to life isn't doing what you are told not to do, it is knowing what is worth doing when told not to do it.

by SaintsFanInIraq on Aug 8, 2011 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

If it soothes your fragile ego, I’ll concede and say you’re right about Barry Sanders. In the history of mankind, he is the singular exception to the human aging process and had he continued to play, he would have never shown any evidence of a physical decline.

not that DREW BREES!!! is back for another fabulous season that will be nothing like 2010

Yet another example of sophomoric sarcasm regarding anything to do with the best QB the team ever had. It has begun to appear as though you want him to do poorly (as well as being exposed as a selfish, greedy bastard) so you can feel vindicated regarding whatever point it is you’ve been attempting to make for the past year or so.

Until which time you have more substantial evidence to back it up, your DREW BREES!!! DREW BREES!!! routine is getting old.

by Drew-Dat on Aug 8, 2011 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

This is deffinitly getting you blocked.

by cscmember on Aug 8, 2011 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

LOLOLOLOLOL!!!

Nah it won’t! Stu got the rise out of him he wanted!

On to da next one!

by TAYDIGGA on Aug 8, 2011 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Stu got the rise out of him he wanted!

I hope Suzjo knows about this.

by cscmember on Aug 8, 2011 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Check the mirror, pal. It’s your routine. I’m just parroting it back to you.

I’m pleased your own enormous ego allowed you to concede the point. Progress!

Wall Street's down, so what
And according to astute market analysts, the world's gonna stop

by stujo4 on Aug 8, 2011 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Stop calling me pal, Mr. Nader.

by Drew-Dat on Aug 8, 2011 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

What does declining entail?

I’m with the guys on Brees declining. However, unless you’re a running (ahem!) I mean “mobile” QB, your decline isn’t as much of a problem as it would be at other positions. I mean, what really declines in a QB. I’d say you’d lose strength in your arm (a little). But I’d also say you probably get better at some aspects of the game too! My boy Joe Montana, after getting injured and then getting traded to KC continued to kill people. Was he slower than he used to be? Definitely, but he also seemed to read better and make wiser decisions. I really wonder what a decline for a QB looks like in an itemized format…

Then again, I’m at work and writing this off the whim of a quick thought and maybe with a little bit more thought I can see some things that make it easy to see a QB’s decline.

Just a thought.

On to da next one!

by TAYDIGGA on Aug 8, 2011 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

My boy Joe Montana

Explain further.
Not something you usually hear from a Saints fan.

In Breesus' name we play

by Breesus Christ Superstar on Aug 8, 2011 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

You'll find me here in the past admitting I been a niner's fan since I was 6.

Started following Saints in 06’ due to Reggie. Still follow the niners.

On to da next one!

by TAYDIGGA on Aug 9, 2011 1:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

What is your infatuation with Reggie? Is he really your cuz?

by cscmember on Aug 9, 2011 7:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

GAAAH! I’ll never know why you love him so much.

by cscmember on Aug 9, 2011 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Things have changed, but there was a time when someone being a fan of both the Niner’s and Saints would have qualified as schizophrenia in New Orleans.

by Drew-Dat on Aug 9, 2011 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah I think the fact that they changed divisions did it.

Besides I always hated the Cowboys more than anybody else.

On to da next one!

by TAYDIGGA on Aug 9, 2011 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

The saints are think at some spots but even Loomis can’t build the perfect roster. Excluding injuries at QB which can wreck any team’s season I think

DE and CB are my biigest concern on defense. Porter never stays healthy and Greer is coming off injury.

DE: I’m still not sold on what they have there because Smith will be out 4 games and I’m not sure Jordan lights it up early.

But oh the positives….

Defense should crush teams running the ball on early downs

Running game should be closer to 09 levels and Brees was more banged up last year than he let on (My opinion).

Whatever issues this team has on defense will be cured by 14-0 leads I really believe that.

by Malbrough on Aug 8, 2011 10:47 AM CDT reply actions  

Go Saints!

Love me some Saints. Great write up.

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by CoachSteveTucker on Aug 8, 2011 10:51 AM CDT reply actions  

Payton is excited about my new found optimism.

…and I’m excited about Payton

Agree with all your points, especially #2 and #3. Revamped running game indeed! As far as the culture of success, I see it up here with the Patriots so it’s nice to see the same culture being fostered with the Saints.

by snowboard_kat on Aug 8, 2011 10:51 AM CDT reply actions  

This is random, but I’ve been meaning to ask you, what’s up with that laset light show thingy at Gilette stadium and what is it’s significance? They never give a good shot of it on TV.

In Breesus' name we play

by Breesus Christ Superstar on Aug 8, 2011 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

say whaaaat?

Are you referring to the lighthouse that’s part of the stadium? Or the musket men that fire guns every time the Pats score? Or the fireworks that go off every time the Pats score? (yes, scoring is serious business up here in new England).

by snowboard_kat on Aug 8, 2011 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ahhh. A lighthouse. Ok. I’ve never gotten a good look at it. You would think the cameras would show such a distinctive feature of the stadium.
The musket men are cool.
Thanks. As you were.

In Breesus' name we play

by Breesus Christ Superstar on Aug 8, 2011 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Can you get chowdah at the concession stands?

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by stujo4 on Aug 9, 2011 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

Of course…at Fenway too.
Hey, I’m not blocked?

by snowboard_kat on Aug 9, 2011 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

He’s giving you a trial period. You only get one chance once you’re unblocked. Make it count.

by cscmember on Aug 9, 2011 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah that’s it.
I wouldn’t have guessed it was a lighthouse.

In Breesus' name we play

by Breesus Christ Superstar on Aug 9, 2011 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sort of a modern interpretation. No one usually gets it…

by snowboard_kat on Aug 9, 2011 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

oh and

This is random
child please, look who you’re talking to :)

by snowboard_kat on Aug 8, 2011 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

You forgot about our sub par tackles going up against revamped and superior pass rushing within the division as opposed to the year before. Not to mention we’re starting someone at OLB currently who couldn’t even crack the starting lineup on a 7-9 team with sub par talent. Those are reasons to be optimistic right?

flushes the toilet and makes sure my floating optimism goes down this time

"Winter is coming"

by jeff.l.b on Aug 8, 2011 11:30 AM CDT reply actions  

I wrote a pessimistic piece yesterday.

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by Jon Banks on Aug 8, 2011 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

I prefer the term "Unnecessarily pessimistic for no other reason than to be grumpy."

:-)

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"I rejected those answers. Instead, I chose something different. I chose the impossible. I chose...Rapture!"

by Jon Banks on Aug 8, 2011 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Dude, if you can’t get excited about this roster, you are trying to hard to be ‘realistic’. And, in a way, isn’t trying too hard not to be a homer just as annoying as being a homer?

In Breesus' name we play

by Breesus Christ Superstar on Aug 8, 2011 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

you make it sound like atl and tampa dont have holes on their rosters too

nobody is perfect. our 09 team certainly wasn’t…

your complaint is out of line… go write your own “realistic” article. then you and your alter ego coldpizza can complain about everthing and bash anyone who heaps the smallest amount of praise on this team.

"As a Saint fan I watch ‘Gone with the Wind’ just to watch Atlanta burn" -Ralph Malbrough

by DrewBreesManCrush on Aug 8, 2011 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

zactly.

"It ain't about how hard you hit, it is about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward, how much can you take and KEEP MOVING FORWARD. That's how winning is done!" - Rocky

by Dan Kelly on Aug 8, 2011 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL, my complaint is out of line that we have no solid starting offensive tackles and no solid starting outside linebackers? hands you your Kool-Aid. Here ya go…keep drinking buddy.

"Winter is coming"

by jeff.l.b on Aug 8, 2011 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Preach it, jeff. Drew BREEES!!!!

Wall Street's down, so what
And according to astute market analysts, the world's gonna stop

by stujo4 on Aug 8, 2011 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

I simply can’t understand Stu why people can’t look at things from a logical point of view instead of constantly being overly emotional about it all.

"Winter is coming"

by jeff.l.b on Aug 8, 2011 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

INGRAMANIA!!!!

Wall Street's down, so what
And according to astute market analysts, the world's gonna stop

by stujo4 on Aug 8, 2011 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

My friend who hates life and is pissed off all the time says the EXACT same thing.

I kid you not… Everything to him has to be “logical” (his own logic, of course) and “realistic” (aka pessimistic because HE THINKS the world is vampire).

"It ain't about how hard you hit, it is about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward, how much can you take and KEEP MOVING FORWARD. That's how winning is done!" - Rocky

by Dan Kelly on Aug 8, 2011 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

I just think it’s incredibly odd that somehow believe you’ll have a winning record…is pessimistic. I guess I missed that memo. And I by no means hate life….only thing I hate is pushy religious beliefs, spiders and cows.

"Winter is coming"

by jeff.l.b on Aug 8, 2011 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wasn’t saying that you do… my friend does, and he talks the same way about being logical (but it’s his own logic… which he thinks is the only logic) and realistic (which is his code word for pessimistic).

(I was just commenting on those two words, and not your overall prediction.)

"It ain't about how hard you hit, it is about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward, how much can you take and KEEP MOVING FORWARD. That's how winning is done!" - Rocky

by Dan Kelly on Aug 8, 2011 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

But more importantly….how do you feel about cows and spiders?

"Winter is coming"

by jeff.l.b on Aug 8, 2011 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

I do not like spiders myself… cows are ok.

"It ain't about how hard you hit, it is about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward, how much can you take and KEEP MOVING FORWARD. That's how winning is done!" - Rocky

by Dan Kelly on Aug 8, 2011 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

8 legged cows creep me out too

"Nobody in football should be called a genius. A genius is a guy like Norman Einstein." - Former NFL Quarterback Joe Theismann

by theprogrammerman on Aug 8, 2011 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dude, if you’re seeing 8 legged cows, you need to share.

by cscmember on Aug 8, 2011 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cows are important

because milking a spider would be incredibly difficult.

CHOOT 'EM LIZ-BETH, CHOOT 'EM!

by Cajun in CA on Aug 8, 2011 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Where the hell do you people live?

by cscmember on Aug 8, 2011 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

mmm...

that’s the far extreme of it. I don’t like those types either. I have an employee who constantly says things like, “that doesn’t make sense,” or “this makes the most sense” when in actuality it’s just not in line or in line with what HE thinks. But I think in matters such as these, people get so emo and rule out all reason and get upset, hurt and crazy because someone applies some sense to things.

On to da next one!

by TAYDIGGA on Aug 8, 2011 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

That’s the part that people don’t understand. It’s not the fact that someone applied sense to the situation. It’s the fact that the sense they are making makes no sense at all. When was the last time you felt strongly about something and let a person on-line change your mind? Sense goes a lot of ways and it’s not always the right way. But does is not make sense if you believe it does. Does this even make sense?

by cscmember on Aug 8, 2011 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Here ya' go -
My friend friends, cp and stujo4, who hates hate life and is are pissed off all the time says say

Fat, dumb, and happy. Hell, two out of three ain't bad!

I Want To Die In My Sleep Like My Grandpa – Not Screaming and Yelling Like His Passengers.

by Just 'Nother Day on Aug 9, 2011 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

pretty sure cp and stu are just misunderstood ;)

by snowboard_kat on Aug 10, 2011 12:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

Pretty sure you misunderstand ;-)

Fat, dumb, and happy. Hell, two out of three ain't bad!

I Want To Die In My Sleep Like My Grandpa – Not Screaming and Yelling Like His Passengers.

by Just 'Nother Day on Aug 10, 2011 12:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm with you my man, I'm with you.

Sports, politics and religion tend to do this. The smartest guy in the room can make himself look like an idiot when it comes to either of these issues and reacts off of pure emotion.

On to da next one!

by TAYDIGGA on Aug 8, 2011 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Does pure emotion change what a person believes? I don’t believe that it does. If a person is an idiot or not it will show no matter what the topic is. The three you mentioned just happen to be the three that are most often disagreed upon. Does it make a person an idiot because you don’t agree? Purple drank is tasting good tonight.

by cscmember on Aug 8, 2011 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not exactly...

Some people have a lot of intelligence and sense but when it comes to these topics they rely more on life experiences (their own) and the emotions they’ve attached to those experiences. All I meant was emotions can make you LOOK like an idiot, didn’t meant mean

“a person is an idiot”

These three topics are easily the topics that people will not listen to anyone else about. Topics that they usually can’t be convinced of anything else of—other than what they already believe (confirmation bias). I was relating the “make himself look like an idiot” to myself more than anyone else.

On to da next one!

by TAYDIGGA on Aug 9, 2011 1:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

true or false?

this is the best saints team ever.

i think its true… id like to hear you explain how this isn’t the best saints team ever. we may get decimated by injuries or just be flat out disappointing. but hearing you constantly come in and write all these buzzkilling statements pisses me off, especially in an article titled “five reasons to be optimistic”. the 49ers could probably come up with 5 reasons to be optimistic. but you dont have to go off topic to bash the premise of the article while using the kool aid cliche for the millionth time.

"As a Saint fan I watch ‘Gone with the Wind’ just to watch Atlanta burn" -Ralph Malbrough

by DrewBreesManCrush on Aug 8, 2011 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

False. Name one significant improvement over the Super Bowl winning team. I can name several significant loses when it comes to quality players.

"Winter is coming"

by jeff.l.b on Aug 8, 2011 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tight End kid over Shockey

Here’s another one: INGRAMANIA!!!!

Wall Street's down, so what
And according to astute market analysts, the world's gonna stop

by stujo4 on Aug 8, 2011 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I in no way believe a second year kid with extremely limited football playing time over the years trumps a multi Pro Bowl tight end…albeit injury prone. Call me in two years, then we’ll agree.

"Winter is coming"

by jeff.l.b on Aug 8, 2011 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is why you will lose your fantasy league unless you play with a bunch of lazy backward thinkers.

I’ll be here in 2 years and will accept your apologies with much grace.

Wall Street's down, so what
And according to astute market analysts, the world's gonna stop

by stujo4 on Aug 8, 2011 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

And that’s why you lose real football games. You thinks it’s all based on Fantasy numbers.

"Winter is coming"

by jeff.l.b on Aug 8, 2011 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

jeff, really… I will accept your admission of incorrectness with much tolerance.

Wall Street's down, so what
And according to astute market analysts, the world's gonna stop

by stujo4 on Aug 8, 2011 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

We’ll make the date in two years. But remember…that’s based on what he is this year….not where he is at the end in two.

"Winter is coming"

by jeff.l.b on Aug 8, 2011 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Listed, with fair warning.

Wall Street's down, so what
And according to astute market analysts, the world's gonna stop

by stujo4 on Aug 8, 2011 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

What, are you kidding? The kid took Shockey’s job. He is now better than Shockey was in 2009. boom

Wall Street's down, so what
And according to astute market analysts, the world's gonna stop

by stujo4 on Aug 8, 2011 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

No….age took Shockey’s job. I firmly believe Shockey when he arrived was better than Graham currently is as a tight end. Do I believe Graham can eventually surpass what Shockey was….absolutely. But things like that take time. You don’t simply anoint the guy after starting a couple of games and playing one year of college ball.

"Winter is coming"

by jeff.l.b on Aug 8, 2011 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

oh he's anointed all right

You said to name one significant improvement over the super bowl winning team. 2011 Graham > 2009 Shockey
boom done

Bonus: INGRAMANIA!!!!

Wall Street's down, so what
And according to astute market analysts, the world's gonna stop

by stujo4 on Aug 8, 2011 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

You’re missing on the word “significant” I would think.

"Winter is coming"

by jeff.l.b on Aug 8, 2011 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

(Take care, your next reply may List you.)

Wall Street's down, so what
And according to astute market analysts, the world's gonna stop

by stujo4 on Aug 8, 2011 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Choose your words carefully, jeff.

by cscmember on Aug 8, 2011 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

farfegnugen ?

"Winter is coming"

by jeff.l.b on Aug 8, 2011 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Too late. He already listed you.

by cscmember on Aug 8, 2011 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Shoulda picked a better word I guess. Serves me right though for not wearing sheep clothing.

"Winter is coming"

by jeff.l.b on Aug 8, 2011 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Who you calling cheap?

by cscmember on Aug 8, 2011 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

bahhhh grins

"Winter is coming"

by jeff.l.b on Aug 8, 2011 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Kreutz over Goodwin- wash

Sproles over Bush- improvement
Ingram- addition
Young- loss
Franklin over Ayodele – improvement
Rogers over Hargrove – improvement
Jenkins over Sharper – improvement
Graham over Shockey – mystery for now, though most say improvement
Jordan over McCray/Brown- improvement
Wilson- addition
H. Evans – loss (though you could argue addition by subtraction)

That about right?

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by Jon Banks on Aug 8, 2011 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Special teams-improvement.
Boom, boom and boom.

by cscmember on Aug 8, 2011 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don’t view Jordan over Grant an improvement…he’s a rookie after all. Nothing says he won’t bust.
I don’t view Sproles as an improvement over Bush, except on special teams.
Young was a loss as is Fujita.
I don’t view Kreutz as an improvement over Goodwin, mostly due to age.
I don’t view Graham as an improvement over Shockey this early in his career.
I don’t view an undrafted rookie as an improvement over Evans. Hate the guy…but it wasn’t quite as bad as CP said.
Wilson can’t even currently beat out a life time special teamer as of yet…though I’m hoping he eventually will…but hey…that’s another rookie there.
A few years further down the long tooth tree for Drew Brees. Is he in decline…yes…is he in steep decline…no…but 2008/2009 will probably be his peek.
I’ll give you Rogers and Franklin gladly.
Jenkins over Shaper….probably….Jenkins plus Harper better than having Jenkins plus Sharper plus Harper….No.

"Winter is coming"

by jeff.l.b on Aug 8, 2011 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

So you don't like the rookies simply because they could bust?

Nice to see you believe that a 32 year old QB is in decline, despite all signs to the contrary. Kolby Hall is a 3 or 4 year vet from Green Bay, not an UDFA. Jenkins over sharper…probably?? Dude…

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by Jon Banks on Aug 8, 2011 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

He is in decline physically. It’s called aging. Guess what…your physical athletic prime is your mid to late 20s. There’s nothing wrong with that…it’s simply the way the world works.

Sharper is a multi-Pro Bowl potential hall of famer. Jenkins…third year pro who currently looks the part but hasn’t quite shown the part. We’re taking history into equation here…not just today.

Didn’t know the hall thing obviously. And no…i don’t like rookies until they prove themselves in the pro game. It’s how it works. Some of the greatest college players in history couldn’t cut it at this level. You have to take rookies with a grain of salt.

"Winter is coming"

by jeff.l.b on Aug 8, 2011 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Brady was 33 last year, and 34 this year.

Yet absolutely no one is saying he’s in decline. Brees had a “bad” season by HIS standards, and everyone says he’s in decline the very season after having one of the best seasons in QB history.

Jenkins is doing everything right, and yet it’s still not enough apparently. He’s intercepting Brees in camp, having a great camp after having a fantastic season last year. Gregg has already said he’s the best def. player on the team. What more do you want.

I’ll give you that rookies can bust. But they can also be great. Just because they can bust, doesn’t mean they will. There’s a whole other perspective that you won’t even look at for rookies. Why? I have no clue.

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by Jon Banks on Aug 8, 2011 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

What more do I want…I want it to happen at game time. Not during practice. I think Jenkins has the potential to exceed even Sharper…who is one of the best safeties to lace it up in the past twenty years. But he has to PROVE it during the games Jon. That’s all I’m asking for…not like I’m asking for him to part the Red Sea. Can he do it…absofrickinglutely. Will he do it…we’re still waiting to see.

And I’ll gladly say Brady is in decline…cause he is. Nothing says you can’t compensate physical decline with additional knowledge and wit. The difference in Brady vs Brees, however….a 10% decrease in arm strength is much less notable when what you had was significantly more than the other guy to start.

Look…Brees is a helluva QB. He was…and still is…one of the top five in the league in my opinion. And hopefully will be for another year or three. But you can’t fight the eventual toll of mother nature. We’re already seeing in with Manning. Brees simply does not have the physical tools that Brady and Manning have…he made up for it with guile and accuracy. Nothing says Brees can’t be a top starter until he’s 38. I’m simply saying his prime is behind him. That’s all the word “decline” means. It doesn’t mean bring out the wheel chair.

"Winter is coming"

by jeff.l.b on Aug 8, 2011 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ok. You explained it very well.

Usually when I hear decline, that same person then justifies it with “DREW BREES DREW BREES!!!” I don’t agree with what you said, but at least you presented your case very well.

As for Jenkins, I realize this is just practice, but that’s all we have to go off right now. He’s doing phenomenal in practice and that’s exciting me. He’s doing everything right in the opportunities given to him.

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by Jon Banks on Aug 8, 2011 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

jenkins can tackle... sharper can't (at least not in 09)

"As a Saint fan I watch ‘Gone with the Wind’ just to watch Atlanta burn" -Ralph Malbrough

by DrewBreesManCrush on Aug 8, 2011 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jenkins has a higher gear

Which is nice to have, but I’d like to see it all come together on game day.

by nanvinnie on Aug 8, 2011 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Excites me too....but not in a weird way.

I simply choose not to count my chickens. According to some people…we apparently already have a full blown free range farm. Great….now I want some chicken.

"Winter is coming"

by jeff.l.b on Aug 8, 2011 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Everything I was going to say, you’ve said in your two comments above mine. Rec’d it.

I can’t get over the “Brees is in decline” mantra. Seriously? Take away Tom Brady’s running game, put pressure on him to do everything, and he’ll look like he’s declining. Conversely, do the same the thing to Peyton Manning, and he’s crowned as having the best season of his career though it matches nowhere near his statistically best year.

I won’t say Drew gets no respect— he gets plenty. But if Drew takes a rag tag bunch of WR’s and throws for 5K yards, while none have 1000, he doesn’t get mentioned for MVP. Lord forbid Peyton Manning or Tom Brady do that. All you’d hear is how awesome they are and how they took these nobody WR’s and did _.

I understand it and I get it, I really do. It doesn’t bother me anywhere close to Saints fans claiming to be realistic while making statements, with certainty, that Drew Brees is on the decline— after just 1 season of non superbowl mvp calibur play, while playing on a torn MCL.

Stop wearing a wishbone where your backbone ought to be. Would you be convicted in court of being a Christian? Happiness is shared, and comes from sharing.

by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Aug 8, 2011 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I don't think the WR's are ragtag...

I think Moore, Colston and Meachem could shine on another team in which they are getting the ball more.

On to da next one!

by TAYDIGGA on Aug 8, 2011 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

agreed. But in 2008, minus Colston (injury) for a good chunk of time, name one WR on the Saints roster who was part of the 5000 who would have gotten big money if he were a free agent in 2007.

Where did Colston get drafted? And Moore? Even Henderson (who was one Oakland type reach in the second round) wasn’t a hot commodity on the open market.

All I’m saying is that I’ve seen Peyton Manning and Tom Brady get all this extra credit for doing the same thing with previously no good or unknown Wr’s that Drew has done with his bunch.

5000 yards without one single 1000 yard WR is remarkable. I don’t think anyone has ever reached 4000 without having a 1000 yard WR, much less 5000. Just sayin.

Stop wearing a wishbone where your backbone ought to be. Would you be convicted in court of being a Christian? Happiness is shared, and comes from sharing.

by Preston J. Gary, Jr. on Aug 8, 2011 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

EOP

Equal Opportunity Passer…Drew Brees.

That’s why.

On to da next one!

by TAYDIGGA on Aug 9, 2011 1:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

what…your physical athletic prime is your mid to late 20s. There’s nothing wrong with that…it’s simply the way the world works.

Unless you took the pill…My body has been 25 for the last 7 years and barring any freak accidents I’ll be alive in the next millennium—still looking 25.

On to da next one!

by TAYDIGGA on Aug 8, 2011 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

So cialis does work. It’s nothing to be ashamed of.

by cscmember on Aug 8, 2011 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

it's viagra actually...

it’ll come in handy after my first marriage ends due to death. My wife refuses to take it.

I’m so sick…smh at myself.

On to da next one!

by TAYDIGGA on Aug 9, 2011 1:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

It’ll be alright, buddy.

it’ll come in handy after my first marriage ends due to death.
You know that could be taken the wrong way in the hands of her lawyers. You want me to flag it so it goes away?

by cscmember on Aug 9, 2011 7:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

“I don’t view an undrafted rookie as an improvement over Evans. Hate the guy…but it wasn’t quite as bad as CP said.”

I don’t know what CP said about it…

but,

.a. We have Hall from the Packers who will likely start at FB, not the undrafted rookie.

.b. Evans was bad enough that we put in a TE at fullback because he could play the position better.

Hall is an upgrade over the (lost his job to a TE) over the hill (thanks for your 2009 service) H Evans.

"It ain't about how hard you hit, it is about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward, how much can you take and KEEP MOVING FORWARD. That's how winning is done!" - Rocky

by Dan Kelly on Aug 8, 2011 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Welcome to opinions, everyone’s got one. My grandmother used to think that Joe Montana was the most handsome man in the world. Try and figure that one out.

"Winter is coming"

by jeff.l.b on Aug 8, 2011 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Do you think Evans was the best option at FB last year, but SP decided to put D Thomas in there anyway?

"It ain't about how hard you hit, it is about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward, how much can you take and KEEP MOVING FORWARD. That's how winning is done!" - Rocky

by Dan Kelly on Aug 8, 2011 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think SP felt that D Thomas gave him more options as both a lead blocker as well as coming out of the backfield in passing situations. As a pure lead blocker…i don’t believe that SP felt that Wendy’s was necessarily a cut above.

You’ll simply have to ask Payton.

"Winter is coming"

by jeff.l.b on Aug 8, 2011 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Didn’t really need that apostrophe there did I….

"Winter is coming"

by jeff.l.b on Aug 8, 2011 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

cataracts?

"Nobody in football should be called a genius. A genius is a guy like Norman Einstein." - Former NFL Quarterback Joe Theismann

by theprogrammerman on Aug 8, 2011 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nope…I marked it down as clinically insane.

"Winter is coming"

by jeff.l.b on Aug 8, 2011 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

It was embarrassing watching her cheer and blow kisses at Joe Montana while we were in the dome. It was only tempered by the fact that the rest of my family were the only Saints fans within shouting distance.

"Winter is coming"

by jeff.l.b on Aug 8, 2011 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

that’s disgraceful

In Breesus' name we play

by Breesus Christ Superstar on Aug 8, 2011 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

nice list... one correction and one additional 'loss'

Loss of Young = addition by subtraction

Liked the person, didn’t care for the player.

Hall over Evans – improvement

the only downgrade over the 2009 team (which is what he asked for) is

???? over Fujita – loss, possibly

"It ain't about how hard you hit, it is about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward, how much can you take and KEEP MOVING FORWARD. That's how winning is done!" - Rocky

by Dan Kelly on Aug 8, 2011 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

dt? te? rb? cb depth?

replacing fujita with shanle is a loss… but fujita was no superstar. sharper over jenkins? dont think so

"As a Saint fan I watch ‘Gone with the Wind’ just to watch Atlanta burn" -Ralph Malbrough

by DrewBreesManCrush on Aug 8, 2011 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

I feel sorry for you, Jeff.
It’s like you miss the old Aints.
I can make you a bag head out of a Schwegmann’s sack if it would make you more comfortable.

In Breesus' name we play

by Breesus Christ Superstar on Aug 8, 2011 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don’t miss the aints at all. I just can’t understand what’s wrong with looking at the team….identifying the obvious holes…and saying…“you know what…a 10 win season seems like it’s close to about right”.

"Winter is coming"

by jeff.l.b on Aug 8, 2011 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Veering dangerously close to a coldpizza “you’re never as good as you could be” attitude.

Wall Street's down, so what
And according to astute market analysts, the world's gonna stop

by stujo4 on Aug 8, 2011 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nothing.

But there’s no need to sit around and get mad at us for looking at all the positives on the team and thinking “You know, this is one of the best teams in the NFL, and I can easily see another 13 win season.”

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by Jon Banks on Aug 8, 2011 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

I’m not mad at you at all…think you got that backwards. I’m the one getting flamed here by stating I think our 2009 team was better. It’s a valid argument on both sides…but I’m currently the only one who not willing to throw in the hat automatically to the new guys in town.

"Winter is coming"

by jeff.l.b on Aug 8, 2011 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

where is coldpizza?

He might give you some support.

On to da next one!

by TAYDIGGA on Aug 8, 2011 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Every team has holes.
Even with these holes, this is the most complete team the Saints have ever fielded, and it ain’t even close. I’m pretty damn excited about it. It has nothing to do with being a homer, especially considering we are comparing one Saints team to another Saints team.
You are listed for 10 wins this season. If Stu forgets, I won’t. Now, when do you begin your annual praise of the Falcons?

In Breesus' name we play

by Breesus Christ Superstar on Aug 8, 2011 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Keep with the hate on me…it’s cool. Is it one of the most loaded teams we’ve ever had…yes. But not one of the most complete. You can’t have a complete team without a quality starting OLB and Tackle. Am I excited for the team…absolutely…but I’m also grounded in reality when it comes to expectations.

"Winter is coming"

by jeff.l.b on Aug 8, 2011 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

grounded in reality

It’s not called being grounded in reality to constantly believe your team is never good enough. You’re just being pessimistic because of past tendencies of the Saints (I’m guessing). You don’t get to have a claim on reality for refusing to believe good things about the Saints, and only believe the bad.

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"I rejected those answers. Instead, I chose something different. I chose the impossible. I chose...Rapture!"

by Jon Banks on Aug 8, 2011 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

I never once have said they weren’t good enough. Where did I say that? Did I say they can’t win the Super Bowl….no. Did I say they can’t win the division…no. The only things I’ve said was I don’t think they’re as good as 2009 and that I don’t see why everyone’s walking around here putting crowns on their head.

"Winter is coming"

by jeff.l.b on Aug 8, 2011 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

I guess I just have the feeling you didn’t think that team was championship caliber either.

In Breesus' name we play

by Breesus Christ Superstar on Aug 8, 2011 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don’t hate you, Jeff. Without you and pizza, it would all be just one big circle-jerk around here.
Just remember that homers can be right. I’m sad for you because if you can’t be fired up about this season’s team, you never will. This is the Saints’ golden age. I just want you to enjoy it while it lasts.

In Breesus' name we play

by Breesus Christ Superstar on Aug 8, 2011 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

I enjoyed 2009 while I cried hysterically like a 10 year old girl when Porter returned the TD in the Super bowl. Does that count?

"Winter is coming"

by jeff.l.b on Aug 8, 2011 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that counts. :)

In Breesus' name we play

by Breesus Christ Superstar on Aug 8, 2011 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

No it doesn't

Just being contrarian…yeah, it does. But I was happy from training camp onwards. Advantage, me.

It was good while it lasted.

by MtnExile on Aug 8, 2011 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

nothing wrong with it

Packers won the super bowl last year with a 10-6 season.

Wall Street's down, so what
And according to astute market analysts, the world's gonna stop

by stujo4 on Aug 8, 2011 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

"Winter is coming"

by jeff.l.b on Aug 8, 2011 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

but I like 12-4

Bill Walsh said it was pretty good.

Wall Street's down, so what
And according to astute market analysts, the world's gonna stop

by stujo4 on Aug 8, 2011 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

put me down for a dime on 11+ wins

you game jeff?

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by DrewBreesManCrush on Aug 8, 2011 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

I do have a dime sitting right here. Good old Eisenhower.

"Winter is coming"

by jeff.l.b on Aug 8, 2011 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think . . .

. . . it’s FDR on the dime, though I don’t have one handy at the moment. Not even a thin one.

by DrZin on Aug 10, 2011 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

Where you getting the Schwegmann’s sack?

by cscmember on Aug 8, 2011 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was being nostalgic

In Breesus' name we play

by Breesus Christ Superstar on Aug 8, 2011 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

No, but seriously

You got any?

It was good while it lasted.

by MtnExile on Aug 8, 2011 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think jeff’s just being careful and not getting his hopes up only to have them dashed away like a burning sack of dog poop on his dad’s porch on Halloween night. And that’s ok. He’ll come around.

Wall Street's down, so what
And according to astute market analysts, the world's gonna stop

by stujo4 on Aug 8, 2011 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

How did you know about the dog poop? Jeff, I told you it was stu.

by cscmember on Aug 8, 2011 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Actually I don’t believe I’ve actually used the Kool Aid reference more than twice…keep up the excellent math skills.

"Winter is coming"

by jeff.l.b on Aug 8, 2011 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Due to Jon's lack of edification concerning historical references

Wall Street's down, so what
And according to astute market analysts, the world's gonna stop

by stujo4 on Aug 8, 2011 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is it bad if I start looking at the 70s with a “good old days” mentality?

"Winter is coming"

by jeff.l.b on Aug 8, 2011 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

That probably didn’t help much. Cyanide laced Flavor-Aid, a generic Kool-Aid, perhaps?

Wall Street's down, so what
And according to astute market analysts, the world's gonna stop

by stujo4 on Aug 8, 2011 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

I loved the 70's

what i can remember

INGRAMANIA equals LOMBARDI 2012

by cajuncommando58 on Aug 8, 2011 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

dang you guys are old.

Just kidding!

On to da next one!

by TAYDIGGA on Aug 8, 2011 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

HEY

I’m in pretty good shape for the shape I’m in!

INGRAMANIA equals LOMBARDI 2012

by cajuncommando58 on Aug 9, 2011 2:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

And what a nice round shape that is.

by cscmember on Aug 9, 2011 7:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ask Dave

I’m a pretty big ole boy. And while I am getting old, and got a bit of a tool shed going, round is not my predominate shape.

INGRAMANIA equals LOMBARDI 2012

by cajuncommando58 on Aug 9, 2011 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

Bigger the shed the bigger the tool. What you saying?

by cscmember on Aug 9, 2011 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

actually

I was referring to my 6’3’’ inch frame and 238lb weight. My little brother is 6’9’’

INGRAMANIA equals LOMBARDI 2012

by cajuncommando58 on Aug 9, 2011 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe you should start calling him your younger brother. Dude doesnt sound little at all.

by cscmember on Aug 9, 2011 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

Nah

I still know how to bring him down to size

INGRAMANIA equals LOMBARDI 2012

by cajuncommando58 on Aug 9, 2011 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

dang!

yall played football?

On to da next one!

by TAYDIGGA on Aug 9, 2011 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

lots of park ball

Buddy of mine was trying to get me to try out for their semi-pro team just a couple of years ago. Told him to many cigs and to much arthritis to play now.
The irony is coach wanted me to play in high school but I couldn’t gain 5 lbs. Graduated 6’3’’ 158 lbs. Had to weigh 165 to pass the physical requirements for HS. I could bust through the line against some of the biggest guys at school, but the rules said I didn’t weigh enough. They didn’t have the hormones back then in HS football. Lifted weights, and ate like a pig one summer and lost 2lbs. My brother grew way too fast and has lots of skeletal problems.

INGRAMANIA equals LOMBARDI 2012

by cajuncommando58 on Aug 9, 2011 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

ouch...

sorry to hear that.

On to da next one!

by TAYDIGGA on Aug 9, 2011 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jones. The guy had a villiage down in South America and had a cult surrounding.

Killed them all.

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"I rejected those answers. Instead, I chose something different. I chose the impossible. I chose...Rapture!"

by Jon Banks on Aug 8, 2011 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nope. They killed themselves. It’s not his fault they listened to him. Just like Manson.

by cscmember on Aug 8, 2011 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wonder what flavor it was. I like orange.

"Winter is coming"

by jeff.l.b on Aug 8, 2011 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

As I recall, it was grape.

Wall Street's down, so what
And according to astute market analysts, the world's gonna stop

by stujo4 on Aug 8, 2011 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

If memory serves me

It was grape.

INGRAMANIA equals LOMBARDI 2012

by cajuncommando58 on Aug 8, 2011 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

It was purple drank. Thay all drank too much.

by cscmember on Aug 8, 2011 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sounds Like Russell was a few decades too late sigh.

"Winter is coming"

by jeff.l.b on Aug 8, 2011 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

I apologize for the sigh Stu…feel free to replace it with a “Doh!”.

"Winter is coming"

by jeff.l.b on Aug 8, 2011 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, but he was also on the DL. Not that there’s anything wrong with that. Also killed a congressman and several reporters, and I think some family members there trying to bring their brainwashed relatives back home.

Wall Street's down, so what
And according to astute market analysts, the world's gonna stop

by stujo4 on Aug 8, 2011 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hahahahaha.

I made fun of this exact idea weeks ago. Awesome.

by Jimbo03 on Aug 8, 2011 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

But didn’t you hear…we got Alex Barron! Seriously, Brees moves well enough in the pocket to compensate…especially with the running game we should have this season.

by BlackandGold4ever on Aug 9, 2011 7:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

We as fans

       badly need to see a game being played.

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by PanheadCatahoula on Aug 8, 2011 1:19 PM CDT reply actions  

Boom rec'd it

Wall Street's down, so what
And according to astute market analysts, the world's gonna stop

by stujo4 on Aug 8, 2011 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Was Leshoure even the second RB chosen in the draft?

by cscmember on Aug 8, 2011 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

No.

Though the Cardinals were considered to reach on their pick, IIRC.

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by Jon Banks on Aug 8, 2011 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ingram
Ryan Williams
Shane Vereen
Mikel Leshoure 57th pick overall

Wall Street's down, so what
And according to astute market analysts, the world's gonna stop

by stujo4 on Aug 8, 2011 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

agreed

The key to life isn't doing what you are told not to do, it is knowing what is worth doing when told not to do it.

by SaintsFanInIraq on Aug 8, 2011 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Greened!!

That's interesting. You know what makes me sad? YOU DO!!! Maybe we should chug on over to mambypandyland...or maybe we can find some self confidence for you YA JACKWAGON!!!!!!

(tears) Tissue?.....Crybaby.

by Jricky70 on Aug 8, 2011 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hate to say it

but I am holding my breath until I see Brees has overcome the nightmare that was interceptions last year. Hopefully with a better run game Payton will take some pressure off of him.

Tiger's blood!!

by SarahT on Aug 8, 2011 2:23 PM CDT reply actions  

If Ingram, Pierre, Ivory and Sproles can stay healthy

No problem.

Keyword (Healthy)

That's interesting. You know what makes me sad? YOU DO!!! Maybe we should chug on over to mambypandyland...or maybe we can find some self confidence for you YA JACKWAGON!!!!!!

(tears) Tissue?.....Crybaby.

by Jricky70 on Aug 8, 2011 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

I think a renewed commitment to the run game will work wonders for our offense this year.

Add in a upgraded (on paper) defense, I’m very excited to see how the Saints do. I would expect improved LB play if the D-line does what we all expect them to with Rogers, Ellis and Franklin plugging up the middle.

by nanvinnie on Aug 8, 2011 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Last year

Brees was channeling his inner Favre. Funny thing was, up until then nobody had suspected he had an inner Favre.

I think he’ll be fine. Brees is such a competitor, I think he ruthlessly stamps out whatever tendencies he sees in his play that keep him from his goal. I’m sure someone, at some point, took him aside and said, “Look, Drew, you’re still the same great quarterback you were in 2009, except for an occasional panic attack when you act like a total d***head. So stop it, okay?” And Brees, being the person he is, and not wanting to be associated with d***headedness on the field (like Favre), is going to stop it this season. I’m not sweating.

It was good while it lasted.

by MtnExile on Aug 8, 2011 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ya think that’s why Drew wont shave his head. He doesn’t want to look like a d***head. He’s gonna have to do something sooner or later, right?

by cscmember on Aug 8, 2011 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ya think that’s why Drew wont shave his head

I don’t think Drew is ready for that yet. Unless this guy is his favorite actor.

That's interesting. You know what makes me sad? YOU DO!!! Maybe we should chug on over to mambypandyland...or maybe we can find some self confidence for you YA JACKWAGON!!!!!!

(tears) Tissue?.....Crybaby.

by Jricky70 on Aug 8, 2011 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

His birthmark is on the wrong side.

by cscmember on Aug 8, 2011 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know

Forgot to flip the pic vertical.

That's interesting. You know what makes me sad? YOU DO!!! Maybe we should chug on over to mambypandyland...or maybe we can find some self confidence for you YA JACKWAGON!!!!!!

(tears) Tissue?.....Crybaby.

by Jricky70 on Aug 8, 2011 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe we should chug on over to mambypandyland..

Just get it right next time, YA JACkWAGON!!!!!!!!!! I love that commercial.

by cscmember on Aug 8, 2011 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

My All Time Favorite!!

And he was great in Texas Chainsaw the Beginning 2006

That's interesting. You know what makes me sad? YOU DO!!! Maybe we should chug on over to mambypandyland...or maybe we can find some self confidence for you YA JACKWAGON!!!!!!

(tears) Tissue?.....Crybaby.

by Jricky70 on Aug 8, 2011 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

who loves ya, baby

In Breesus' name we play

by Breesus Christ Superstar on Aug 8, 2011 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is that how you greet your patients right before they slide into the stirrups?

by snowboard_kat on Aug 9, 2011 8:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

LOL!!

That's interesting. You know what makes me sad? YOU DO!!! Maybe we should chug on over to mambypandyland...or maybe we can find some self confidence for you YA JACKWAGON!!!!!!

(tears) Tissue?.....Crybaby.

by Jricky70 on Aug 9, 2011 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

I’m trying to think of a comeback…

In Breesus' name we play

by Breesus Christ Superstar on Aug 9, 2011 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

She got ya, buddy. Just admit it.

by cscmember on Aug 9, 2011 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

She just fancies me as a gynecologist

In Breesus' name we play

by Breesus Christ Superstar on Aug 9, 2011 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

I actually prefer you as a shrink. A gynecologist would be amusing though.

by snowboard_kat on Aug 9, 2011 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

FIFY
I actually prefer you as a shrink. shrunk.

Fat, dumb, and happy. Hell, two out of three ain't bad!

I Want To Die In My Sleep Like My Grandpa – Not Screaming and Yelling Like His Passengers.

by Just 'Nother Day on Aug 9, 2011 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

FIFY

I actually prefer the movie shrek.

by cscmember on Aug 9, 2011 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

one that’s not wildly inappropriate

In Breesus' name we play

by Breesus Christ Superstar on Aug 9, 2011 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Kind of late for this party

Much better Jon.

in all seriousness, I really had to think hard to be a pessimist about the Saints this year

Good save

Peyton, I can eat Oreos faster than you!!!!

by mknkachow on Aug 8, 2011 9:50 PM CDT reply actions  

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