Making the Grade: Saints Offensive Player Grades @ Packers
When you look back on this game it's hard to blame the offense for this loss. Yes, you can look back and criticize two plays that had a critical impact on the game. Whether they were poor play calls or poor execution, the 4th and half a yard play and the last play of the game were the two things that stick out. Had they turned out better the outcome of the game could have been different.
Make no mistake though, the Saints put up 34 points on the road against an extremely good defense despite the fact that they were turned one dimensional because they were playing from behind the entire game. The two-minute drill at the end of the game was run flawlessly and you have to give huge kudos to Brees for putting his team in a position to possibly tie the game. The fact that they even got in that position was a miracle.
I present you our very first grades of the season, hope you enjoy. Remember, the letter grade represents the player's performance for that game, whereas the GPA behind it represents the cumulative effort for the season. For now, the GPAs will match the letter grade because this was the first game, but that will change as the season progresses. As always, your comments are encouraged and appreciated.
Drew Brees: A+ (4.33) I can nit pick and find some decision Brees made that I didn't love, but overall he played a fantastic game. Despite getting rocked numerous times after he got rid of the ball, Brees continually put on a clinic out there. There were two plays where I would have liked to see the ball come out and he didn't let it rip. Instead, on those two plays, he ended up getting sacked once and throwing the ball away on the 4th down play. Those were negative plays that hurt the outcome. Still, how can you possibly blame Brees for this loss? He was 32 of 49 for 419 yards, and 3 touchdowns. No turnovers, too. And if the run game bails him out on that last play, is there any question in your mind he comes back and gets the two point conversion? I don't really think he could have played much better, though he was fortunate on a few poor throws that could have been intercepted. Still, he really did play a magnificent game and it was great to see him rebound from a "down year" last season.Mark Ingram: C (2.00) It's really too bad he got stuffed on the last play of the game for no gain because overall I saw some good things from him. He ran hard to the hole and showed some good things out there. He had more than double any other Saints' rusher in terms of carries and finished with 13 carries for 40 yards. While a 3.1 yard average won't blow anyone's mind he showed some physical running and potential out there.
Pierre Thomas: B+ (3.33) This was classic Pierre Thomas. He finished off runs the way he always does and he was incredibly slippery and hard to tackle. Arm tackles were not bringing him down. He finished with 5 carries for 31 yards and 4 catches for 37 yards. He really made the most of his touches and I hope to see the ball in his hands more next week. Maybe the Saints are slowly working him back into the groove with his still fragile ankle.
Darren Sproles: A (4.00) I probably give him an A+ if it wasn't for his poor pass blocking. He whiffed badly on a blitz that got Brees sacked and drilled pretty hard. Outside of that, he was explosive, quick, terrific in open space, and everything we all hoped Reggie Bush could be consistently. If this guy can duplicate a performance like this one with any sort of consistency, this offense looks terrifying to anyone. He had just 2 carries for 7 yards, but did most of his damage catching the ball and on special teams. He had a whooping 7 catches for 75 yards (!!) including a big time 36 yarder early in the game on a 3rd down conversion to bring the Saints team to life. He also ripped off a 57 yard kickoff return, a 20 yard punt return, and a 72 yard return he brought to the house. This guy had a special game and the Saints are lucky to have him. I already take him over Bush any day after seeing one game.
Jed Collins: C (2.00) He alternated the very good and the not so good. I did see him destroy Charles Woodson on a corner blitz off the edge once which was awesome to see. He did have some nice collisions at the point of attack to open up lanes for Ingram mostly. His lead block on the last play of the game was terrible, though. I think he missed short yardage blocks that could have made a difference.
Marques Colston: C- (1.67) He had a couple drops but if you look at his stats he had a respectable effort: 6 catches for 81 yards. The catch he made down the seam on the final drive was an incredible grab reminiscent of vintage Colston. In the end he could never get out of the shadow of that first fumble he made on the Saints' opening drive. That handed the Packers a 14-0 lead right from the get go and the Saints could never come back from it. That fumble was a back breaker and he's got to do a better job of securing the football. That was a bad mistake.
Devery Henderson: A (4.00) I can't really criticize anything he did in this game. Out of nowhere, Henderson turned into a reliable medium range receiver. I will say his speed isn't what it used to be. I saw Charles Woodson and another corner run step for step with him down the sideline. He did get separation thanks to a nice move on his touchdown reception, but overall I just don't see the explosive straight line speed from him anymore. That said, he's made up for that with better hands, strength and route running. The guy has improved all other areas of his game as he's aged. He used to be incredibly fast and not good at anything else, and now he looks like a complete receiver out there with decent speed. I was proud of him and he laid to rest the critics that say he should be cut at least temporarily. He was sure handed and finished with 6 catches for 100 yards even and a touchdown.
Robert Meachem: B+ (3.33) He had an atrocious drop early in the game but came back later on that drive and made a 31 yard touchdown reception that was just an unbelievable catch. He finished with 5 receptions for 70 yards and a touchdown. He went vertical, he made a couple plays underneath, and overall I thought he played a pretty good game. I think there's a couple drops he wishes he had back, though.
Jimmy Graham: B (3.00) He was a little quieter than I'd hoped and the Packers did a great job of containing him. I will say I was overall pretty impressed with his blocking, and he showed great hands. He didn't get very good separation so his route running needs work. He finished with 4 catches for 56 yards and a touchdown late to keep the Saints close. I expect bigger and better things from him as the season progresses.
David Thomas: D+ (1.33) His blocking, which is supposed to be his forte, got eaten alive in this game. The one pass attempt to him was poor timing with Brees and he showed poor awareness of the ball in the air. He didn't contribute much to the offense at all.
Jermon Bushrod: B- (2.67) I've been hearing many people trash his performance, and yes, we can all point out the 3-4 plays where he was victimized, but overall I thought he played a fairly clean game. His protection by and large was solid and he got nice push off the line of scrimmage. No one is into crucifying Bushrod when he plays poorly more than me, trust me, but I thought he held his own out there. He was left out on an island with Strief struggling and he did well for the most part. I'm not going to pretend he was flawless or awesome, he wasn't, but he got the job done.
Carl Nicks: C+ (2.33) There were plays were he was his usual mammoth self out there getting big time push off the line, and there were times he really didn't do well. He had his hands full with B.J. Raji, no doubt about it. That guy is every bit as good as advertised and an absolute beast. I've never seen a guy give Nicks that kind of trouble in the trenches. Still, kudos to Nicks, he battled and did some nice things.
Olin Kreutz: C- (1.67) Am I the only one that thinks this guy seems incredibly light in the pads for an interior lineman? Maybe standing next to Jahri Evans and Carl Nicks dwarfs him unfairly. I just didn't see what all the praise is all about. Maybe the guy is washed up. Twice he was slow to rotate over on simple and basic pass protection schemes and that got Brees in trouble. On running plays he had very little push whatsoever. I'm going to tell you guys right now, the guy I saw out there didn't have the lateral quickness nor the strength of Jonathan Goodwin. I wasn't impressed. Hopefully he turns it around. The Saints did have a ton of snaps out of the shotgun and all his snaps were perfect, so I will give him that.
Jahri Evans: B- (2.67) I'd say he was the best offensive lineman overall on the day for the Saints, but he got distracted too often trying to help Strief. He also got flagged yet again for holding, which is becoming his trademark calling card. I saw the tape on that flag and there was no doubt about it, a blatant hold. He did have a really nice pull on a swing play to Sproles getting over to chip Clay Matthews Jr. which allowed Sproles to make the sidelines and turn the play into a first down. I thought he was solid in pass protection and he gave Brees a clean pocket to step into. He didn't have that initial surge push like Nicks on running plays, though.
Zach Strief: D+ (1.33) He was positively abused by Clay Matthews Jr. on pass rushing downs and it was painful to watch. Luckily Brees got rid of the ball so fast for the most part it wasn't a factor, but that didn't stop Brees from getting lit up like a Christmas tree as he released the ball a few times. Payton, to his credit, picked up on that quick because on the next series I saw Charles Brown, Big Jahri, Pierre Thomas, Jed Collins and Jimmy Graham all taking turns chipping or double teaming to Strief's side. On running plays the Saints couldn't take advantage of his size because he was too slow to his blocks. Hopefully he'll get better matchups as the season progresses.
Charles Brown: B (3.00) He didn't play much but when he came in I thought he was good. I think he maybe deserves a shot to start if Strief has another couple spotty starts. He was the 3rd tight end on blocking downs and he helped Strief out in pass protection a couple time and his size off the edge was a welcomed help.
My Offensive Player of the Game: Drew Brees
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PT deserves an A
He really made the most of his touches
…. a player can’t do any better than that. Sproles on the other hand, could have done better as in not whiffing and he gets an A. It seems to me, no one including Payton appreciates just what PT brings to the table as much as they should.
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by Philinwood on Sep 10, 2011 6:15 AM CDT reply actions 3 recs
When the offense had a chance to win the game, they couldn’t do it. Simple as that. Our line is not that good and Payton needs to realize that when the giant fatass on green au stops our mediocre rookie running back all game, it’s prolly going to happen again at the end, too. At a bare minimum, creating a wall for Mark to run into by bringing everyone in was not the best idea in the playbook. Spread the field!
by xen-cuts on Sep 10, 2011 6:28 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
When the offense had a chance to win the game, they couldn’t do it.
The short yardage and red zone woes were the reason why. They must correct that week 2. And I think they will.
That's interesting. You know what makes me sad? YOU DO!!! Maybe we should chug on over to mambypandyland...or maybe we can find some self confidence for you YA JACKWAGON!!!!!!
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I respectfully disagree on this
The Saints did have a ton of snaps out of the shotgun and all his snaps were perfect,
I know of one snap that was partially responsible for Drew getting sacked. Yes the o-line let the rush though, but, Olin Kreutz’s snap was way off to the right. Drew had to snag it out of the air with one hand, then didn’t see the rush coming because he was trying to get the ball turned for an accurate throw. IMO if this snap had been perfect, then Drew would possiblely have been able to scramble out of that sack. There was another snap that was far from perfect but this was the most glaring.
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by cajuncommando58 on Sep 10, 2011 6:41 AM CDT reply actions
I'm glad Drew was graded an A+
419 yds 3TD’s 0 Int’s nuff said. Let’s not forget Drew was pressured quite a few times due to lack of blocking. He played his heart out.
Dave Thomas’s grade D+ very accurate as well. I’ve never had much faith in him as far as catching the ball. He’s usually an excellent blocker but looked pretty bad out there. I hope Graham stays healthy all season long. He’s our bread and butter in the TE dept.
And Henderson? Looked like a pro out there. Welcome back Devery! I almost lost faith in you. My apologies. You proved me wrong, and so did Mr. Cariello.
And Darren Sproles. You are no Reggie Bush. And I thank you for that. And thank you for running north and south. I look forward to more huge KO and PRturns this season.
There were a lot of positives in the offense as there were a few negatives. Putting up 34 points against the defending champs who have a solid defense says alot. Grrr and those short yardage situations were the difference in the outcome.
Let’s take care of business week 2 at the Dome against the Bears.
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I agree
I noticed it after they pointed out the heads up play by Rogers to catch a bad snap. There were at least two, maybe three bad snaps from Krtuez. I think I even saw one play where Drew directly approached him to address the issue
by BlknGldSoulja on Sep 10, 2011 11:38 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I like Collins' potential
I think his grade was fair, but I also think Payton hasn’t really used fullbacks to their full potential in the past. He really helped open up a nice hole for PT early in the first quarter and few other plays like that in short yardage would have been nice to see. It’s very early in the season and I know Payton will make the play adjustments needed to really maximize all the new talent he has available.
Andrew,
You are not the only one that can see that in Olin. I thought I was the only one. At least I’m not alone. If you watch the Saints week after week you notice very much whose slacking and Olin has been slacking ever since the start of pre season. It is very obvious he is done, or not far from it. Even Chicago fans were happy when they let him go. Cajuncommando58 is right about the bad snaps also. I think every game so far he’s had at least one maybe two in each game. I hope to God he tightens up because I want to like all these players, but so far he’s on my unlike side along with Shaun Rogers.
And by the way, about Pierre, he played hard and fantastic. Didn’t play much, but I agree that they’re slowly moving him in. Next week he’ll probabaly have about 8-10 handoffs.
I pointed out the bad snaps...but
in all fairness he hasn’t been on the roster very long and am hoping his and Drew’s timing will come together more and more each game. Just stating that he wasn’t perfect. While none of the O-line was, I think they have come a long way since the Texans game, and are much improved. I was very worried for Drew at first but am feeling much better. Especially after their fairly good performance against a very good D-line. I’m am in no way trying to spread negativity and was merely pointing out some issues that I hope will be corrected.
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by cajuncommando58 on Sep 10, 2011 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions
Lance Moore,
I really think if Lance would have played, he would have made one TD for sure, maybe two or three. I think if he would have played, we would have won this game. Hope to see him play next week. He really makes a big difference in the offense.
Moore was missed in the red zone fo sho
Brees missed him big time
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I don’t agree. Brees uses whoever is open. I mean, he missed Joe Horn more than anything ;)
Seriously, somebody is going to have to go across the middle…
I love Horn and wish he could still play.
But, Lance always finds ways to get open and Drew finds him. Another thing, if that ball is anywhere close to Lance he will catch it, it doesn’t have to be right in his hands. He is very reliable and it’s no wonder why Drew likes him so much.
I'm down with most of the grades, but SP gets a C+
b/c of the short ydg. plays near the goal. Colstons fumble, 108 yd, KR are mistakes, but a perfect 2 min. drive ends with an off tackle run, from a singleback set is HS.
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Do us a favor,
Don’t even grade the defense, because they failed.
Who Dat?
by jhenn2004 on Sep 10, 2011 10:46 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
No I wouldn't say that.
They have a lot of improvement to be made, and started off really crummy in the first half. While not stellar in the second half they made some adjustments that addressed some what the free reign Aaron was having on us. Bear in mind Will was not there and they played P Rob in the spot that Tracey Porter would have normally played. P Rob just isn’t ready for a team with as many offensive weapons as GB. The main issue I have with the D is the very poor tackling. And I’m not buying the strip the ball mentality hypothesis. Players need to wrap up and stop all the tripping tackling BS techniques.
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by cajuncommando58 on Sep 10, 2011 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions
Jenkins needs a grade.
I only heard his name called once last night, and that was because of a devastating hit he delivered. That’s great to not have your name called if you’re in the secondary.
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Bring back Aaron Brooks! He's the only one who can save us from the evil that is Drew Brees!!
people criticized Ingram- but it was his firstr game. We have PT.
There is nothing wrong with PT. We can lean on him- he can do it all. He is a complete back- up the middles, screens, draws, pass protect, outlet passes. I know Ingram is the guy of the future- but this isn’t the future. If we give 6 of Ingrams carries to PT, including the 3rd and 1, we win.
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by Philinwood on Sep 10, 2011 1:17 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
who dared criticize Ingram
let me at ’em
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by cajuncommando58 on Sep 10, 2011 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions
PT >>> Ingram
It’s not necessary to justify the pick by playing Ingram today. Ingram might get better, but for now play PT!
Ingram gives PT much needed rest.
Pierre is great…so long as he doesn’t play a lot. (a lot being 15+ carries.)
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why is it again that PT needs rest?
he was injured last season, not tired.
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Everybody else thinks that. Hopefully he’ll get it together soon, or Tennent will be getting his shot ahead of schedule.
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by FuSoYa on Sep 10, 2011 3:54 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Speaking of Tennant....
Considering how thin we are in the OL, I was surprised to see Tennant as inactive. Isn’t he the backup at C AND both G spots?
Andrew--What a Great Job!!
Hell, my eyes are too far gone to see who’s playing where anymore, so your insight is great! I think a lot of folks don’t appreciate how many times Brees got hit—it’s tough to play that well when you’re getting slammed on the turf. I hated to see Colston fumble that ball, but seam routes down the middle invite big hits, and he took one.
Saints have 2 newbies on the OL and 3 newbies on the DL—it’s going to take a few weeks under fire to get the communication down.
Looking forward to your defensive grades.
I can't believe it
I agree with almost every grade here. That’s a first. I would swap the grades for Nicks and Evans, and give Strief an ‘F’. I might have been a little more generous with Ingram considering the circumstances (first game, not a lot of help from the line, etc.). Other than that, I’d say you nailed it.

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