Saints 34 @ Packers 42: A Review of HansDat's Hot Reads
As one of our final mental well-being exercises, a bit of Web Therapy (anybody else enjoying this Showtime original as much as Mrs. Hans and I are?), if you will, in regard to Thursday's disappointing loss to the Packers in the NFL Back to Football Opener, let's take a look back at my Hot Reads and see how they turned out.
After the jump you'll find each of my Hot Read choices, along with what I said I wanted to see, and then a breakdown of what actually happened, and then my take on what kind of impact it had on the game itself.
Primary Option: Protect Brees
What I'd like to see: With nearly an entire year to work on it, I hope to high heaven that the coaches have come up with something, anything, to help our guys deal with this kind of scheme, because I imagine we'll see it quite a bit this season. I don't know what it'll take to stop it, but I think I'll know it when I see it, or at least know it when I'm NOT seeing it. Good communication, no missed assignments, helping each other out, and crisp/clean center-QB exchanges, would at least be steps in the right direction.
What I actually saw: From the view on my couch, the protection was BARELY OK. Looking at it statistically, the line gave up three sacks and allowed six quarterback hits.
If they give up 3 sacks per game, that projects to 48 for the year, which is waaaay too high for my liking. And further, two of these sacks were very fruitful for the Packers. One of them was on third and two at the Green Bay seven, forcing the Saints to kick a FG (four point swing), another was on third and four and caused the Saints to punt on a three-and-out drive right after the Packers went up 15 in the 4th Quarter, and the other sack came earlier in the game on a second and two, but the Saints were able to convert the third down on the very next play, so no loss there.
But it also seems you could say that the pressure they did bring to Brees did not cause him to melt down and throw four interceptions, but while Brees did have a good statistical night, there were a number of throws that were off-target, so maybe the pressure was effective in some respects.
Other protection notes: The protection was utter crap on the 4th and short play in the Packers red zone. Brees rolled out of the play action into a heap of trouble and barely escaped with an incompletion (as opposed to a strip/sack/crunch fumble TD return)...Jahri Evans did commit a holding penalty (on a play when it looked like he was trying to block two, maybe three Packers at once, so I'm not sure if that's entirely his fault)...Darren Sproles and Jermon Bushrod each badly missed on at least one block that I saw (but I'm not sure if these led to sacks or QB hits or what).
Impact on the game: As I said above, I consider the performance to be barely ok. It didn't directly cost the Saints the game, but if they had played better, they might have won.
Checkdown # 1: John Kasay needs to get his kicks
What I'd like to see: A blowout in which we take a huge lead early so that it just doesn't matter how Kasay performs. But since I don't really see that as happening, I'll settle for a game in which he gets and succeeds on a couple of mid- to short-range opportunities, and hits all the XPs (putting us on the good side of any of those low-scoring outcomes I listed above).
What I actually saw: Exactly what I asked for (except for the huge Saints blowout) - Kasay had a perfect night in which he did everything that they asked him to do, which while not much (4 XPs, 30- and 38-yard FGs), considering his debut against the Titans, should be considered a roaring success. It didn't seem to me that Payton had to alter his game plan to avoid attempting a long FG, so that was good, too.
Impact on the game: Kasay's kicks kept the Saints right in the game, and he definitely did not lose the game.
Checkdown # 2: Balanced Offense
What I'd like to see: That's all good and well, Hans, but just what in the hell does that mean? The Saints need to be strong in running, able to convert that third-and-short on the ground so the Packers can't just jam the TEs and WRs and disrupt that quick pass to stop a drive, and late in the game if the Saints need a grind-it-out, clock-consuming drive. On the other hand, the Saints also need to have the passing game viable at the mid- and long-range levels to bail them out in case they get into the occasional second- or third- and long, for simple variety of attack, and to help open up the running game. (I feel like this needs more here, but I just can't quite formulate it coherently right now, so maybe someone who agrees can help with more explanation in the comment section.)
What I actually saw: Straight-up huge discrepancies between the passing and running game in certain statistics - almost 4:1 ratios - not even close to even balance. 20 passing first downs to five rushing, 396 passing yards to 80 rushing yards, 49 pass plays to 21 rushing plays. The only balance was rushing yards per half: 37-44. Whoop-dee-freaking-doo.
Even using my qualification of just being able to run it when you need to and just enough to keep the defense honest didn't help. There were some decent rushes spread throughout the game, but the Saints could not convert many short-yardage runs when needed (two second half examples: Ingram ran for no gain on 3rd and 1 in the red zone, followed by Brees's incompletion on 4th down; and then we all saw what happened on the untimed down at the end of the game), and the running game was far from effective, reliable, and consistent.
The only bright spot was the opening drive of the third quarter. Five of the first seven plays were Ingram rushes for a total of 26 yards and two first downs. Nice! But beyond that, the rushing game brought almost nothing to the table.
Impact on the game: To put it plainly, it cost the Saints the game. The lack of a rushing game forced the Saints to be one-dimensional on offense - 49 attempts is too many and this puts Brees at severely heightened risk of injury when he has to throw that much. Also, converting on both of those second half short-yardage opportunities listed above would have won the game for the Saints, and succeeding on just one of those would have tied the score (or cut the Packer lead to one). The rushing game had two chances in the second half to bail out the terrible defensive showing, but it failed.
Safety Valve: Field Position
What I'd like to see: These new guys need to cover the actual kicks well, bring down the return men hastily, and not commit penalties in order to keep Green Bay far from the end zone at the start of each drive. Morstead will also need to kick it well. Lots of touchbacks and fair catches would be nice.
On the flip side, those same guys need to block well on returns to allow Courtney Roby and Darren Sproles to make clean catches, run straight ahead while following the blocking schemes in place, and hang on to the ball when they get hit, giving our team better field position.
What I actually saw: Barely decent overall performance (considering the big picture).
The Packers only had three returns in the whole game, and while one of them did go for a 108-yard touchdown (the Saints cancelled it out with a TD return of their own, so that's a wash), the other two were nothing special. One of them was the 27-yard KO return on the opening drive for the Packers (and the way their offense was clicking, they could have started that drive from anywhere on the field and they would have scored a TD), and the other was a 5-yard return what would have been a 31-yard return if the Packers hadn't committed a penalty on it (and on that drive, the Packers burned off almost five minutes of the clock in the 4th, but did not get any points). Three returns, one of which went for a TD, and the other two provided not good, but not bad field position.
The Saints had five returns in the game: one was the Sproles 72-yard TD, one was a 57-yard kickoff return that jump-started a 3-play TD drive, one was a 19-yard KO return to the Saints 19 that led to a FG, one was a 20-yard punt return to the Green Bay 49-yard line that we wasted (ended in the 4th down red zone incompletion), and one was a seven-yard Jed Collins return to the Saints 26 (this was the "we're NOT kicking it to Sproles again" kick), that led to a three-and-out by the Saints. Five returns, two that contributed significantly to TDs, two that were neither here nor there, and one that we totally wasted.
Impact on the game: I've done the math a number of different ways, and it always seems to come out as a "no advantage" final rating. The Saints had two good returns that led to TDs, and another that gave them a great starting point, while the Packers had only one of those. So, they win that one easily, right? But the Saints completely choked on one drive that started at the Green Bay 49 and got nothing, and if you consider the fact that the Packers turned this 4th down failure into a long TD drive of their own, it was actually a 14-point failure. Holy crap, this assignment was more difficult than I thought it'd be. My gut and stat study tell me that field position didn't cause a make-or-break difference or clear advantage for either side in the long run.
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Alrighty, then. There's my first installment of analyzing and assessing my Hot Reads. Jump in below and give me your thoughts on them. Maybe I drew the wrong conclusions, and maybe I missed key points of the game. Maybe I was right on like Donkey Kong. Fire away!
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The First view from CC58's seat.
Protect Drew Brees. My initial vote BTW. Nope, Nada, Not happening. New vote ….Call Drew Timex…keeps on ticket..
Kasey got his kicks. Yes but no bearing on the game. Did his job well so deserves an atta boy. ATTA BOY… There done
Balanced Offense. Yes Green Bay sure had one….Like I said about the 2009 Saints jumping out to an early lead helps make this possible.
Field Position…It didn’t really matter where they started on the field, They, walked all over it.
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by cajuncommando58 on Sep 10, 2011 4:45 PM CDT reply actions
I let you grab the top spot
since I jumped in front of you on the last one, lol.
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by AcquiredPanic on Sep 10, 2011 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Makes the game much more challenging.
Claiming the First spot by actually typing a comment before anyone else can beat you to it. I actually sort of have an unfair advantage because the first post of the day is usually at 6AM and I’m at work and usually online at that time.
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by cajuncommando58 on Sep 10, 2011 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Drew feels the sack coming

See him secure the ball like a Running Back before he takes the hit. Way to go Drew.
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by cajuncommando58 on Sep 10, 2011 5:42 PM CDT reply actions
and that's Bushord in the right corner sittin' on his a**
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by Hans Petersen on Sep 10, 2011 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Bushord = Bushrod
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by Hans Petersen on Sep 10, 2011 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions
The Jersey Drew shoulda wore in Green Bay

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by cajuncommando58 on Sep 10, 2011 5:47 PM CDT reply actions
this "balance-madness" must stop..
a team has a certain identity.. predominantly(ply) passing or ply running..
goes with the coaching makeup, available player personnel, sometimes even team history, throw in there: geographical location, if you want to.. anything..
the saints = ply passing.. the running is complementary to the pass.. at times when the teams has functioned at its best, typically creating great leads, the b-word (balance) actually has made an appearance.. the old run-out-the-clock having a lot to do with it..
in a game like thursday.. you run a little only to accomplish one of the following:
a. set up the pass or,
b. hoping you catch them in a nickel defense so you can get a good chunk of yards..
Offensive balance redux
You can’t expect balance when your team is playing from behind all game. This loss is on Greg Williams – not Sean Payton.
by Philistine on Sep 10, 2011 6:25 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
there you go..
each game takes its own life.. sometimes.. what appeared as a key point in the pregame, may go out the window..
by the 9th plague on Sep 10, 2011 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions
true but GW had nothing to do with the short-yardage rush failures
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by Hans Petersen on Sep 10, 2011 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions
But that isn't really on a balance attack.
If they had run more, they would have less time for their eventual comeback failure.
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Bring back Aaron Brooks! He's the only one who can save us from the evil that is Drew Brees!!
but it does fall under the caveat I listed in the Hot Read of what I'd like to see
The Saints need to be strong in running, able to convert that third-and-short on the ground…
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by Hans Petersen on Sep 10, 2011 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Ahh.
Ok, nevermind.
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Bring back Aaron Brooks! He's the only one who can save us from the evil that is Drew Brees!!
a little "cheat" of mine to allow for a broader interpretation of being correct
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by Hans Petersen on Sep 10, 2011 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions
If Green Bay had scored fewer points, it wouldn't have mattered so much
It would have been nice if we could have exercised Kasay a little more instead of being forced to make those short-yardage runs, at which we have always sucked during the Payton era, it seems.
This.
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Bring back Aaron Brooks! He's the only one who can save us from the evil that is Drew Brees!!
about your -field position- point..
i does affect the outcome indirectly, because of the additional time (& number of plays) that takes to reach an equal field position.. if you think about it.. the saints needed every bit of their time of possession to get withing 8 points.. if they had failed on some of those returns, getting less yards & field position it would have taken more plays (more time) to get to the same spot..
sure GB didn’t need field position cause the soft spread saints D was very cooperative.. it didn’t matter much to them..
good point
all those touchbacks starting at the 20 make a difference
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by Hans Petersen on Sep 10, 2011 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Oops--premature posting
Guess I saw dead people Thursday night as well. But I do see screens as running plays, as they are meant from the snap to put the ball in the hands of a running back behind some blockers, hopefully clear of the DL. And I think SP was trying to keep it very balanced (considering the screens) throughout the 1st half and early in the second. I really didn’t see “Pass First” consistently until time started running short in comparison to the score.
the problem with the offense is that when Ingram is in the backfield, everyone knows he is not receiving a pass
and, 4th and 1 and Sproles is pass blocking? What’s wrong with that picture? Where did we lose confidence in PT? He was good healthy, he was good banged up, and then he got injured and didn’t play. But, he’s good again and he’s not a rookie ergo he won’t make rookie mistakes ( see 3rd and 1 before above mentioned 4th and 1)
Bring Ingram along slow. He will have a long successful career. Especially if we don’t mess him up early. Don’t start him- give him every chance to excel by putting him in downs where he has the field tilted to his advantage. When it’s a tough situation – go to PT. Oh, and did I say START PT? Hasn’t he earned it? Has Ingram (and I love Ingram) earned anything? I’m a big believer in the importance of players earning what they get. Let him earn it all. He will.
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by Philinwood on Sep 10, 2011 9:02 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
BOOM
" I’ve never done drugs but I think watching Matty Ice stare blankly towards the field as Drew Brees kneels down while clock hits zero in a playoff game would be like doing cocaine off a strippers @$$#….yeah that good.
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by born in areacode 318 on Sep 10, 2011 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Hans...
I rec’d your post because I think it’s great. I love this weekly addition to the lineup. Well thought out, researched, written and organized. It’s about time you put your writing talent to work and I’m glad we’re now getting your personal opinions on the Saints in a much more serious and in-depth format. Please keep up the great work.
P.S.- Not a fan of ‘Web Therapy’ but I DO love me some ‘Mad Men.’
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the wife and I used to watch Mad Men – we had a couple of MM marathons to get caught up on the first couple of seasons after we “discovered” it, but then that episode where that guy let his dog walk out of the office building and into traffic to die was just too gut-wrenching and we have not watched it since…
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by Hans Petersen on Sep 11, 2011 9:05 AM CDT up reply actions
I just saw that episode
I don’t think the dog want into traffic to die. I just think he let the dog loose.
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by Dave Cariello on Sep 12, 2011 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions
What is the name of your store? For the life of me I cant remember. Are you open on Saturdays? I will be working off of Broadway this Saturday and would like to stop in if that isn’t a problem. If you dont see this I will send you an e-mail later in the week.
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Thanks, Dan. That’s only a few blocks from where I will be working. It looks like the store will be open. I hope I have time to stop in and meet the guy that runs this hell hole that I love so much. I hope he doesn’t warn his employess about me.
Some kid: Sprinkles is that you?
Csc M: Yep
Some kid: Ummmm, The Dave told me to tell you that he isn’t in.
Csc M: Who was that guy crouching in the hall way?
Some kid: You need to stay away from the purple Drank, Sprinkles. The Dave ran upstairs when you came in. DOH!!!!!
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Where are you working?
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by Dave Cariello on Sep 12, 2011 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions
It’s my g/f actually. She is painting a house on Audubon near Cohn. The gentleman she is working for knows of your shop and wanted to go with me if I do visit. He graduated from Tulane in 1965. This man eats, breathes and sleeps Tulane. I have a feeling he will love your store.
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I'm sure he's been here before.
And yes, that is close.
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by Dave Cariello on Sep 13, 2011 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions
may be time for another look, then?
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by Hans Petersen on Sep 17, 2011 6:19 AM CDT up reply actions
The offense couldn’t pull off enough miracles to win that game, because they were ill-equipped to handle a solid, competent defensive front. The Saints don’t have an O-line capable of getting a yard out of the Packers. They didn’t hire the personnel to accomplish that. They did what they could, which was substantial, but, lacking the element of surprise, they just aren’t good enough to break through a line like Green Bay’s. 3rd and 1 from the 31 yard line, TD to Meachem. 3rd and 1 from the 5, FG. That’s what they built this year. You put CJ2K behind that line, 4 out of 5 times, you get the same result.
Good field position likely did help the Saints, since they occasionally had trouble moving the ball against the Packers, but since the Packers didn’t have that problem, that didn’t really emerge as a factor for them. If anything, poor field position may have helped Green Bay, since it ate up more clock and wore down the already useless defense scoring touchdowns, compared to the 1-minute freebie Colston gave them. But that one did completely kill any hope of seeing a “balanced attack”(or a clean #9 jersey) about 6 minutes into the game.
Brees, Sproles, Henderson, and PT all came to play on offense. Jenkins, Greer, and Vilma came to play on defense. The rest just came.
"The Colts were punching at it and grabbing for it, trying to get it out. But I didn't care if they broke all my fingers. There was absolutely no way in the world I was going to let go of that ball. That was our ball.''-Chris Reis
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