Making the Grade: Saints Defensive and Special Teams Player Grades @ Packers
I can tolerate a defense getting flat out beat when they play a superior opponent, and that was definitely part of the problem in this game. But I cannot tolerate poor technique and lack of poise. Those things were entirely too prevalent in the Saints' defensive "effort" against the Packers, and I use the term "effort" very loosely.
Prepare yourself, the grades are bad. The bottom line is the tackling by the Saints was an abomination across the board. No one wanted to wrap and tackle, instead concerned with just putting a candy hit on Packer ball carriers. No expletive can do that performance justice.
The defensive line got no pressure and they were repeatedly pushed way off the ball. The defensive backs were routinely toasted in man coverage and slow to the ball in zone. The linebackers weren't as bad at tackling as they were slow to the football and completely absorbed with blocks, unable to shed anything. The secondary put together probably one of the most atrocious tackling efforts I've ever seen. There was everything in this game: poor tackling, broken assignments, broken coverage, poor coverage, terrible angles, slipping, and even the very few times in this game the Saints were in the right place, they still got beat.
Performances really don't get much worse than this one in the NFL. It was an embarrassment. The Packers make people look like that, no doubt, but to call that performance by the Saints defense anything less than incredibly alarming is just naive. And I don't think any of us are stupid enough to believe Will Smith's addition after Week 2 is going to make a lick of difference.
One player missing isn't the problem, the problem is a team-wide inability to tackle or shed blocks. To me, that's just playing with a higher sense of urgency, effort and composure. I do believe those things can be fixed internally without outside help, but it also doesn't get fixed overnight. I reluctantly give you grades that aren't pretty in the least.
Jeff Charleston: C+ (2.33) He finished with 3 tackles and he wasn't awful. His pursuit was good and he tried his best. I just don't think he's starting quality, but he's able to come in and give the Saints effort. He seems to have added some weight so he looks stronger, but he was just slow to the play too many times.
Junior Galette: C+ (2.33) He finished with 3 tackles and half a sack. He tackled Rodgers for a loss on a busted play which was a gimme, and he helped finish off a sack that was initiated by Harper. Other than those two positive plays, neither of which he really did much to inherit, he was largely stonewalled and not much for a factor off the edge.
Turk McBride: C+ (2.33) To me he was the most promising defensive end on the night. He finished with just 1 tackle so statistically he didn't do much, but he received numerous double teams so clearly the Packers we worried about him. He did a decent job of getting pressure and he was really the only one. Rodgers' release is just too quick, though, and McBride was always a step late. He held his ground best of the d-line against the run too. While he didn't have an amazing game I did leave with some hope that this guy could turn out to be a pretty good player for the Saints.
Cameron Jordan: C- (1.67) He finished with 3 tackles but he was pushed off the ball quite a bit and got no pressure whatsoever on the quarterback. He did not look like a 1st round pick to me.
Sedrick Ellis: D+ (1.33) One of the worst games I've ever seen Ellis play. He finished with 2 tackles and was completely manhandled in the trenches. He looked slow, weak and disoriented out there. I know he'll rebound because we've all seen this guy play at a high level but he just didn't have it.
Aubrayo Franklin: C- (1.67) At times you can tell why he's so highly praised as a premiere run defender. He definitely absorbed contact well and got a little penetration at times. That said, he was double teamed a good amount and I saw him get knocked clear on his butt at least two times which created a huge running lane. Maybe he's not 100% yet but I hope the Saints can get more out of him than that.
Shaun Rogers: D- (0.67) This guy was supposed to be a mammoth run stopper. I'm glad he looks the part, but so far that's it. He was a ghost out there. He made absolutely no impact whatsoever. The short yardage situations he came in, his supposed specialty, the Packers ran right at him and had their way with him. He never helped the Saints stop the Packers in short yardage situations, not even close. He was terrible and invisible in this. Finished with one tackle.
Mitch King: D+ (1.33) It's weird that he was so good in the preseason and the minute the regular season light came on, his hustle decreased and he was pushed around like a ragdoll. He finished with 1 tackle.
Scott Shanle: C+ (2.33) A mixed bag from the veteran. To me he was most active against the run and he was one of the few players that actually came ready to tackle someone. He made a huge stop behind the line of scrimmage in the red zone on a 2nd and short, only to turn around and give up a 1st down reception on the very next play by giving way too much cushion to Tom Crabtree who is hardly a receiving threat. He finished with 7 tackles and I thought his pursuit and tackling was decent, but he slipped a few times and he looked a little slow out there. His coverage looked very spotty.
Will Herring: D (1.00) The Saints praised this guy and said he was ready to assume a full time starting role after being more of a spot duty coverage linebacker with the Seahawks. Well, I certainly saw his coverage ability, and it wasn't that good. He did have a couple good coverages on Jermichael Finley, so I'll ease up on him there. Against the run, though, he was useless. Completely useless. The Packers ran right at him several times and he was completely swallowed by any willing blocker. He would often get a passive hand on a runner which did absolutely nothing. He finished with two tackles. I have to say, I'm not impressed with this pickup so far. I miss Danny Clark.
Jonathan Vilma: C (2.00) As the game wore on he found his bearings and got better. He finished strong and ended with 7 tackles once the Packers tried to milk their lead and become one dimensional with the run. Before that happened, though, he was out of place and victimized often. He was well on his way to a D or worse until the 4th quarter, where he redeemed himself with good tackling and physical play. Prior to that, he looked slow, and like Herring he couldn't shed any blocks. The Packers' blockers did a good job of finding him, getting a hat on him, and completely erasing him from the play. His coverage was not good.
Jonathan Casillas: C+ (2.33) He was great on blitzes and not good at anything else. He sacked Aaron Rodgers once and hit him viciously getting there just a step too late. He finished with two tackles. The Saints dropped him in coverage a few times and his awareness was poor. Sometimes in zone you have to break off your assignment when you see a wide open receiver a yard away from you. Instead, he stayed put and gave up a huge gain on a third and long. His ball and play awareness there were not good. He didn't provide the Saints with enough of a physical presence when he was in there, but I would have liked to see him in there against the run more.
Patrick Robinson: D (1.00) He was beaten badly in man to man coverage and the Saints had to move Harper from the box, run more zone, and use traditional shell coverage to make up for the fact that when left out on an island, Robinson was getting abused. On the opening drive he gave up a long pass to Jordy Nelson, slipping, and the touchdown pass to Greg Jennings with little resistance. He finished with 5 tackles and was always a step slow to the ball. His tackling was extremely poor as well.
Tracy Porter: C+ (2.33) He wasn't targeted much, and his coverage was the best of the group. He finished with 5 tackles, most accumulated leaving his assignment to help teammates that couldn't tackle. He did take a horrible angle on one short flare pass and gave the receiver and inside lane, slipping and missing the tackle badly. He wasn't immune to the team wide inability to tackle.
Jabari Greer: D+ (1.33) Rodgers went after him a lot as well with mostly good results. Greer did have good coverage on a couple 3rd down plays which would force a punt, but it's telling that when Rodgers needed a first down he was usually going after Greer. Greer's tackling was absolutely awful. I remember numerous times where the Packers would flare a pass at the line of scrimmage, isolating Greer one on one to make a tackle. He missed almost all of them. It was shameful. Give him credit for one very nice pass breakup. He was also flagged once for a not obvious pass interference call. He had a lot of trouble covering Greg Jennings.
Roman Harper: F (0.00) Documenting all of his screw ups would take way more time that I'm prepared to give. Needless to say, he was absolutely atrocious. His coverage once again was victimized constantly and it was basically a carbon copy repeat of his performance against the Seahawks in the last playoff game. That performance, by the way, earned him an F as well. He did lead the team with 9 tackles and had half a sack, so there's that, but make no mistake he was picked on all game. A very very bad performance throughout the game.
Malcolm Jenkins: C (2.00) I gave his grade a boost for that monstrosity of a hit on Donald Driver. Seriously, how did Driver get up from that? Jenkins completely obliterated him. WOW. I still can't get over that shot, it was quite impressive. Jenkins ended with 5 tackles and had a couple of good plays, but again, his game was defined by taking bad angles and missing tackles. The biggest runs the Packers had were extended by Jenkins' inability to put an end to them. He's the last line of defense and there was way too much diving at people's ankles.
John Kasay: B+ (3.33) I'm not going to give him a better grade than that for converting on two field goals inside 40 yards, but give him credit, after scaring us to death in the preseason he did what was asked of him well. He made all four extra points, both short field goals, and hit an onsides kick decently that didn't work out.
Thomas Morstead: B- (2.67) He averaged 49 yards on two punts (only 36.5 net) and had one go for a touchback. On his kickoffs, he blasted them deep in the end zone almost every time. Unfortunately for him, Randall Cobb took one out from 8 yards deep and well, yeah, you know what happened.
Courtney Roby: B (3.00) While he was relieved of his return duties, he still made the most of his time on the field. Give him credit for a monster block that sprung Darren Sproles on his punt return for a touchdown. That was a thing of beauty. He was also one of the first men down on almost every single coverage unit exercise.
Isa Abdul-Quddus: D (1.00) Two big mistakes by Abdul-Quddus in this one. First, on Morstead's touchback punt, he showed very poor ball awareness and was unable to locate the ball to maybe pin the Packers inside the 5. Also on a punt which would end up luckily being called back for a hold, he had a chance to make a one on one tackle with Randall Cobb and he completely blew it. Yet more evidence of poor tackling. He looked lost out there on special teams.
Leigh Torrence: C (2.00) The touchdown wasn't hit fault and he did have a tackle on special teams. It's good to see him out there as a veteran that knows how to play special teams, especially with Pierson Prioleau and Chris Reis both gone. Hopefully he can help young guys like Abdul-Quddus in a hurry.
Note: I already graded Darren Sproles out at an A in the offensive grades, which included his special teams reps, so that's why he's not listed here.
My Defensive Player of the Game: Scott Shanle (had to pick someone!)
My Special Teams Player of the Game: Darren Sproles
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with no burger option I'll create one
maybe they had their post-game burgers before the game and that bloated them up and slowed everybody down
WIN NOW
WINGRAMANIA!!!!
good work, Andrew
and here’s my usual pop-culture reference:
I just realized that the title of this series has reminded me of something for a long time…

WIN NOW
WINGRAMANIA!!!!
His coverage once again was victimized constantly and it was basically a carbon copy repeat of his performance against the Seahawks in the last playoff game.
Harper can’t cover jack anymore. He can blitz and tackle. And I haven’t been impressed with Porter lately as well. They have plenty of time to fix this mess by week 2.
The goal for today? Pull for the Bucs and Falcons to lose.
That's interesting. You know what makes me sad? YOU DO!!! Maybe we should chug on over to mambypandyland...or maybe we can find some self confidence for you YA JACKWAGON!!!!!!
(tears) Tissue?.....Crybaby.
As I said in pre season, Shaun Rogers and Olin Kruetz will hurt this team. These guys are proving me right. They need to be replaced before we go further in the hole. If they stay, I hope some miracle occurs to where they start playing better, but I don’t see it happening. These guys USED to be good, but those days are gone now. The good part is, they can be replaced by average players that would play better than them. It’s hard for players to do their own job plus trying to pick up slack for these two guys. That’s double work and some of these players won’t tolerate that. Replace those two guys and watch how the team plays better on both sides of the ball.
Something tells me they should have kept Hargrove and Ayodelle for 1 more season.
That's interesting. You know what makes me sad? YOU DO!!! Maybe we should chug on over to mambypandyland...or maybe we can find some self confidence for you YA JACKWAGON!!!!!!
(tears) Tissue?.....Crybaby.
I was disappointed when Ayodelle signed with, of all teams Minn/Vikings
Hargrove was a bit of a liability at times with his late hit penalties.
INGRAMANIA equals LOMBARDI 2012
by cajuncommando58 on Sep 11, 2011 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions
And we know
Gregg Williams need to step it up or we may begin to wonder
That's interesting. You know what makes me sad? YOU DO!!! Maybe we should chug on over to mambypandyland...or maybe we can find some self confidence for you YA JACKWAGON!!!!!!
(tears) Tissue?.....Crybaby.
I think GW may be
getting too predictable. He starts off blitzing and the backs off when he starts getting exposed. Teams are learning to prepare for the early blitz, and the good ones, ie GB make GW pay dearly. He needs to mix it up some because our secondary isn’t as good as it appeared in 2009. The reason it looked so good then was the big leads. The other team had to take chances to try to catch up. Also some fundamentals need to be brought back into play. Strips are nice if recovered, but the first priority must be stopping the player before big gains are made. We have some new players in the scheme and they will take time to gel as well,l so quit trying to get cute and play some strong basic defense. Just my opinion, and if the Saints organization likes any of my thoughts then I here by let them know I come fairly cheap. LMAO.
INGRAMANIA equals LOMBARDI 2012
by cajuncommando58 on Sep 11, 2011 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions
It’s one game, against the Super Bowl Champs, on their home turf, on opening night.
Take a chill pill, please.
"We got 99 problems, but a Brees ain't one!" by ShadowFlash
by Dan Kelly on Sep 12, 2011 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I Don't think it was that bad....
I mean the Packers are last years SB Champs for a reason. And we had a chance to tie the game up at the end. In fact, several times I noticed that the Packers receiver was COMPLETELY covered, but Rodgers just threw one of those passes that can only be caught by his receiver. And even then the receiver had to make a spectacular play just to catch the ball. There’s really no way to defend against those types of passes. Plus don’t forget that we handed them 7 points at the beginning of the game by Colston’s fumble. I think our defense will be just fine. And I don’t think we will face another offense like Green Bay until the playoffs.
Our fat punk kicker, Garrett Hartley, missed a game-winner and we lost for the second week in a row - Scott Fujita in 2009
making excuses here......
we have a lot of new guys playing on the Defensive side , short off season due
to the lockout and Smith had to sit out. Also , as has been said , the Packers are
playing pretty good football at the moment and if it was Brees tearing up the
DB`s then we would all be giddy with pleasure at what a great QB we have , and
not lamenting the poor defense we were facing.
I’m confident that as the season pans out “triple G” will get his boys playing to a good
standard and , hopefully , tackling effectively.
That could`ve been me,a useless gnome* fishing
for turds in a birthing pool.
Did anyone else see the illegal block in the back???
on the 108 yard return by the Packers. I was at Lambeau and was screaming bloody murder about the missed call. Our gunner was tackled from behind around the 10 yard line. The Packers should have been starting at their 5 yard line instead of getting 6 points. I have seen the replay on tv (too many times) and the illegal block was to the left side of the screen out of the full view of the camera.
Was I the only one there that saw this atrocity!?!
by nolanative on Sep 14, 2011 1:41 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Yeah... I just saw the play again, much of it in slow motion...
Forgive me for this in advance…
HOLY S***!!!!!!!!
Not only were there at least two blatant block in the back penalties not called, there were at least three HORRENDOUS holding penalties not called.
The first BAD one was at the point around the 30 yard line where Cobb spun and was held up by Kuhn. The Saints player to Cobb right was being lifted up by a GB special-teamer.
And, then near midfield, you see a Saints player chasing Cobb with the bottom of his jersey pulled up to his chest. Rewind 2 seconds and you’ll see why.
Again, I say HOLY S***!
"We got 99 problems, but a Brees ain't one!" by ShadowFlash

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