Texans 33 @ Saints 40: A Review of HansDat's Hot Reads
Another week, another win, and then you win again because now it's time for a review of HansDat's Hot Reads from Sunday's game against the Texans.
Make the jump to see what I hit, what I missed, and exactly where I went horribly awry.
The Primary Option was to Protect Drew Brees, and here's what I wanted to see:
That Payton really learned from the 2009 loss to Dallas and schemes the protections to stop Williams and the extra pressure, from wherever it comes. It would also behoove the Saints to establish the running game early, and try to hit on short, quick-outs to keep the chains moving so Brees can stay alive. Once this has sucked in the defense, I see Devery breaking free for another long TD by about the third quarter...
Well, the protection wasn't great, but it really wasn't too terribly bad, either. And if you factor in that two starters on the o-line left the game with injuries, it might even be considered decent.
Brees was hit five times and sacked twice, and while he threw two picks, it didn't seem to me as if they were a result of him being harassed by the pressure of the Texans. The sacks were pretty costly, though, as the first one left the Saints with a 3rd and 17, which they didn't convert and ended up having to kick a FG on 4th down (loss of possible four points), and the second one left the Saints staring another 3rd and 17 in the face, which was not converted, and forced a punt (loss of three or seven points). I'd rather not see Brees hit this much, so work on that for me, will ya, guys?
Overall, Brees didn't seem too rattled by the pressure, never had to run for his life, and certainly kept his cool late when he slipped into his "not in our house, not today" mode during those two absolutely brilliant 4th quarter TD drives and 2-point conversion passes. (Eat it, Jim Haslett/Mike McCarthy and your feeble attempts to rock the 2-point conversions!!)
Devery did not get a long touchdown in the third, and they definitely did not establish the run game early. Heck, the only thing they did establish was inconsistency on offense early in that game.
Checkdown #1 was that Jo-Lonn Dunbar needed to step up big time:
What I'd like to see: It would be really easy for a player in this situation to take on too much himself and end up messing things up (over pursuing, getting out of position, trying to rush a last-minute adjustment that puts others out of position, etc.) by over-thinking things and/or going overboard with enthusiasm and attitude.
Play it cool, Jo-Lonn. You got this. Take in what you see, think about your schemes, and know where people are and what they'll be doing so you can do what you need to do.
Jo-Lonn finished the day with a pretty decent stat line: 10 total tackles (six solo) with two passes defensed. So that's something, anyway.
I'm not sure how to precisely grade the other stuff I wrote for him to do, but we can take a look at some of the things linebackers are generally responsible for: covering the TEs, pressuring the QB, and contributing to stopping the run game.
Covering the tight ends did not work out well at all. Owen Daniels rang up five catches for 76 yards and a touchdown, while Ken Walter caught three for 35 and a touchdown. What's most embarrassing is that the Texans whodat fullback, James Casey (who I'll also say is the linebackers' duty to cover), absolutely torched the Saints for five catches, 126 yards and a touchdown, while also having one carry for 11 yards. OUCH. After his diving touchdown catch in the second half, I wrote in my notebook, "Who in the holy hell is James f****** Casey?" Literally. You can ask my wife.
In case you're wondering, those two TEs and the FB contributed a total of 13 catches for 237 yards and all of the Texans three touchdowns for the day. Not good.
As far as pressure goes, the linebackers accounted for two of the four hits the defense laid on Schaub, but neither of the two sacks.
By the end of the day, the Texans rushed for 109 yards, so the LBs didn't exactly get run over, but they weren't exactly shutting it down, either.
So, it's a mixed bag, and it seemed Jo-Lonn and crew did just enough to win, but it needs improvement.
Checkdown #2 saw me call on the revamped defensive line to make a statement:
What I'd like to see: Hey, new guys! Show us why Pay-Loo brought you here. Stuff the run and take down Schaub. Hard.
Aubrayo, you need to stuff that running lane and force Texan running backs to run into a wall of pads and large, sweaty men, allowing the linebackers to swoop around and then take them to the ground.
Rogers, collapse that pocket and free up Ellis to crush Schaub or flush him out and into the arms of the blitzing Roman Harper or Malcolm Jenkins.
Big Willie, it's your turn to party like it's 2009 again. Swallow ball carriers in the backfield. Give Schaub LOTS to think about when he drops back to pass.
Aubrayo Franklin didn't even have a stat line. Did he even play? I don't think he did anything I asked him to do.
Shaun Rogers notched three tackles (two of them solos), and Big Willie had the biggest day of all the boys I called out: six tackles (four solos, one for a loss) and a QB hit.
Schaub was hit four times and sacked twice, but he lit up the Saints defense for 373 yards, three TDs and an INT, while achieving a 103.9 passer rating.
The assessment of the running game was detailed above.
Again, the story of this game was...nothing spectacular, but just enough, and at the right time to win.
The Safety Valve involved a big play on special teams:
What I'd like to see: Another EXPLOSIVE blocked kick for a score by the Saints that literally blows up the noise meter. Deep, booming kicks that edge the sideline combined with stifling coverage that keeps Jones and Manning wishing they were somewhere else.
I invoked the ghosts of Saints-Falcons from September 25, 2006, and came up with this:
Fourth play of that game - Steve Gleason's blocked punt opening the floodgates for an emotional and humbling 23-3 win.
Fourth play of Sunday's game - 32-yard reception by Andre Johnson on 1st down (which followed a 15-yard catch and run by Johnson on 3rd and 14). Clearly this game would go differently for the Saints than the celebrated Dome reopener in 2006.
No blocked kick for a score in this one, although Thomas Morstead and the punt coverage units did play very well this week. Morstead punted thrice for a 49.3 yard average, and they only gave up two returns for a total of five yards (23 yards below the Texans average).
The Texans had three kickoff returns for a 27.7 average per return (14 yards less than the average they carried into the game).
So, while the Saints did not rock the Dome with a big special teams scoring play, they did neutralize Danieal Manning and Jacoby Jones, and Morstead had yet another good game.
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Thus ends this review. But it can live on as we discuss it in the comment section.
Do you have anything to add to my assessment? Anything to criticize? Have at it, I can take it!
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Really don't think Drew had that bad of a game.
I’d rather him take the sack, ( did,nt he get stepped on by one of the offensive linemen on one sack?) than make some of the terrible throws he did last year. I:E interceptions.
"Daddy, them cigarettes are gonna kill you". My aunts last words to my 96 year old grandpa before he fell out of bed and broke his neck reaching for a full pack.
I thought that as well at first
but the play-by-play scored that fist offensive snap for the Saints as a rush – “Drew Brees up the middle for -3 yards” and the two sacks came later in the game
WIN NOW
WINGRAMANIA!!!!
by Hans Petersen on Sep 28, 2011 7:53 AM CDT up reply actions
I agree
I’d rather not see the two picks, but he’s not going to go interception free all season, and one of the picks was not his fault
Drew really kept his cool and didn’t go all crazy trying to win the game all by himself (like he did in 2008 and 2010)
WIN NOW
WINGRAMANIA!!!!
by Hans Petersen on Sep 28, 2011 7:54 AM CDT up reply actions
Oh and good morning Hans.
Thanks for the read.
"Daddy, them cigarettes are gonna kill you". My aunts last words to my 96 year old grandpa before he fell out of bed and broke his neck reaching for a full pack.
you're welcome
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WINGRAMANIA!!!!
by Hans Petersen on Sep 28, 2011 7:54 AM CDT up reply actions
No one is perfect...
Brees had a good(borderline great) game and I’m satisfied with that because we got the “W”. Eventhough he had 2 INTs/TOs, it could have been 3 when he was getting sacked and was still thinking about doing an underhand throw that would’ve probably lost the game for us. I think sometimes Drew needs to understand that because he puts the team on his back every week, he can’t do it “all” and take what you’re given and remember the game is not “1 possesion”. GW needs to work on his schemes and disguising the blitzes so teams don’t audible like this last game. Hartley is on IR!!!! Don’t know whether I should throw a house party or take the day off! Gives us room for a quality OL who can help in the run game fand take pressure off Brees. Lastly, I think Dunbar will be that physical presence in the middle to slow/stop the run game. I want Vilma back but he needs to be 100% to be effective.
Great job Hans !
IMO , we are just barely establishing a running game enough to have the defenses “respect” it minimally. I think we can do better with the run. This RB by committee is doing well, but I think that neither PT nor Ingram get enough rhythm to bring out their best. Having said that, I don’t know what the answer is. I am partial to PT short term and Ingram long term. Sproles seems to be able to handle the sporadic game time- he’s used to it. When Ivory comes back, it will be very confusing- the way he played last year, you can’t just forget about him – you have to give him a few acrries and see what he does. You also have to play him because he could be trade bait for next season. But he may affect Ingram and PT negatively because of that RB rhythm thing. I guess, overall, it’s a good thing to have. If all 4 are playing well, I would be in favor of deactivating a different one each week to let them keep rested and be fresh for the playoffs.
But, that’s IF Ivory comes back.
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A review of my keys to the game
Red Zone Efficiency: The Texans and Saints have both struggled at scoring TDs in the red zone. The team that scores TDs instead of settling for FGs in the red zone will win.
Not to say I called this one, but CHECK!!!!!!
Stop the run: Arian Foster has been banged up a bit, but Ben Tate has stepped in and looked like a BEAST. Shut down the running game and make Houston one dimensional.
For the most part, check
Turnovers: Both teams like to throw the ball around. There will be opportunities off of tipped passes or bobbled receptions for both teams. Whichever team takes advantage and turns those into turnovers, should win. They might also win TOP! TOP! TOP
We lost the turnover battle, but we did get a crucial INT when it mattered the most. The Texans forced two turnovers and scored on a bobbled attempt at an INT, so they get win this, but I think they only scored 6 points off of turnovers to our 7.
Peyton, I can eat Oreos faster than you!!!!
We do seem to be getting better at both red-zone offense and defense. Or maybe Green Bay just really is that good. I’m actually hoping for both. Because if they really are that good it makes sucking against them hurt a bit less. And if we’re ALSO getting better, then maybe we’ll face them again at a point in time when we’ve gotten better enough to hold them to some field goals at times.
Linebackers need to play better
So, it’s a mixed bag, and it seemed Jo-Lonn and crew did just enough to win, but it needs improvement.
If Breezus didnt play lights-out in the fourth quarter, we would have lost at home. which good teams don’t do. The linebackers gave up too much to the tight ends and the fullback, of all people.
Maybe Vilma’s absence had something to do with that. Damn it, I WANT to like the linebackers – but they’re not doing it for me.
we would have lost at home. which good teams don’t do.
Really? Even great teams — as opposed to merely good, or even very good — teams occasionally lose at home. Oh it’s rare, but it happens. Anybody really think the Patriots weren’t a better team than the Jets last year? Yet they lost at home in the playoffs no less. They clearly are at least a very good team.
The Redskins are probably only a merely “good” team, yet they came within a single point of losing at home to the Cards in week 2, who still stink despite the upgrade at QB.
Buffalo is a good team — far better than they have been in recent years at least — and they only barely managed to escape with a win, and only then because “Tom Terrific” gave them the ball four extra times.
Chicago isn’t a great team, but they are at least a good team. And they lost to a superior opponent at home this weekend.
We wouldn’t use the phrase “any given Sunday” if it didn’t actually mean something. Upsets CAN happen. I’d be very unhappy if it had, because I do think we are the better team. But not by much. And fortunately we seem to know how to finish and Schaub doesn’t. (Now if we could just remember how to start as well…)
I'm not going to quibble any further
I shouldn’t complain about your characterization; it’s mostly my reaction to the linebacker play. We were utterly spoiled by the Dome Patrol back in the day, and we will probably never see its like again. Still, the Saints have to figure out how to deal with whack-a-mole nature of the modern NFL offense, and the linebackers always seem to be holding the mallet when the mole gets away.
Now if we could just remember how to start as well…
I don’t think anybody will quibble about this statement. I liked it better when they always scored on their first drive. I guess other teams have a better bead on Payton’s game planning now.
last year, and the year before we always had quick starts and forced other teams to play catchup. i also saw brees throw unneccesarily into double/triple coverage for guys 5-10 yards away..
by forrestgump52 on Sep 28, 2011 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Now of course, all the above said, I do agree with you that I want more and better out of our linebackers. Hopefully Martez gets healthy fast and shows us he was worth drafting over the course of the season.
And hopefully Tracy gets healthy really soon too. I actually think Robinson is decent… but only decent. He’s not good yet. He might get there someday (and might not), but whether he does or not he’s clearly not there yet.
Fourth play of Sunday’s game – 32-yard reception by Andre Johnson on 1st down (which followed a 15-yard catch and run by Johnson on 3rd and 14). Clearly this game would go differently for the Saints than the celebrated Dome reopener in 2006.
My only quibble is that if the refs had been doing their job the fourth play of the game would have been a punt. That 15 yard catch and run was aided by a couple of blocks in the back and borderline holding. Granted the interior linemen are quite rarely called for holding. That doesn’t make what they do legal — as the few times they actually do get called rather conclusively proves — and 74 could have been called for a hold for the way he got his arms around Sedrick’s arms, and could also (if you’re being ticky-tack) been called for a block in the back. Then later 88 had a grip on a shoulder that could have backed them back up to 3rd and 12 when you take a 10 yard penalty from the spot of the foul. And who knows what happens from there.
And yeah I know — from personal experience, no less — that it’s hard to get the calls right all the time. But these guys are supposed to be professionals. They are paid to to their jobs, unlike me, and I saw these calls when they happened at full speed and only used Game Rewind to go back and verify that my full-speed impressions really had substance. And for that matter whomever was hugging — I mean “blocking” — Will Smith could also have been called for a hold as well (though I don’t remember anymore if I noticed that one at full speed). And that one was somewhat borderline as well. But it wasn’t truly legal and this was the OUTSIDE of the line, not the inside, where the standards are usually more rigorously applied.
I know the refs will never be perfect. But they should be a LOT better than they are. And if they can’t manage it on their own, then the league needs to make penalties — whether incorrectly missed or incorrectly called — challenge-able. Now obviously the standards of “incontrovertible proof” should always be used in those challenges, and it’s quite possible none of what I pointed out would have passed. But they were all at least technical violations of the rules and I don’t like seeing them.
All that said, had Greer played a little more aggressively, the play still probably wouldn’t have worked. The line clearly headed downfield too fast for anything but some sort of a screen. And at the time of the snap it was an empty-backfield. It was impossible for this to be a RB screen, so it has to be a WR or TE screen. And the OL is running towards him. That means he is the absolute #1 most key player who HAS to step up and take a chance to prevent the play from succeeding. He needs to run in IMMEDIATELY on that and get his face in the face of whomever in the area is an eligible receiver and drop him at the spot of the catch. There’s a 5 yard cushion between him and Andre, and that’s too much. Now to give him some credit, it was 10 yards at the snap, and sadly that’s both very understandable and also probably a bit too much. At least he started forward. But he didn’t KEEP going forward. He started forward, rocked back on his heels briefly, and then tried to go forward again once it was too late. He should have just kept going. Now there were two eligible receivers in the area, Andre and #88 (Garrett Graham) in the area. And I think that was the key mistake, he thought #88 might be getting the ball. But #88 is running upfield while Andre is stepping back. I have never seen a WR or TE screen where a potential blocker starts upfield and then steps back and THEN turns around and heads upfield again. Greer should have kept moving forward. Remember that 88 can’t start blocking until the pass is completed. If he tries, it’s offensive pass interference and we get 3rd and 20. Maybe, even despite that difficulty, 88 still prevents him from making the tackle, but at least he slows Andre up and gives his friends time to come help before the first down marker is reached.
I think this shows that he has been playing tentative. For that matter, so has most or all of the defense. They need to get back to their attacking ways from 2009 instead. At least they need to do that with teams that are not QBed by one of the true elites (Tom, Drew, Aaron, and probably Phillip even though his play so far this year sure hasn’t shown it). Even the “very goods” like Schaub can be made to look pretty bad if the defense does its job correctly. As also evidenced by what happened when he started undercutting routes later in the game.
Also note that had Schaub had the sense to not throw to Andre when Greer got aggressive (which he might have) it still might have torpedoed the play. Greer had plenty of help over the top (at least two safeties) to handle #88 before the sticks. And if Schaub holds it long enough, the linemen get too far down field and we have ineligible receiver downfield.
All told, I want our defense to attack. I’d rather attack and fail than carefully (or worse yet passively) sit back and fail anyway. Gary Gibbs’ defenses were WAY too good at option B. Option A is more fun, more exciting, and while maybe it sometimes gives up a big play, it also sometimes gets a big play as well.
Crap just saw another angle. The blocker that got Greer was #86 (James Casey). Man that twerp is going to be really getting on my nerves if I dwell on this any further. He slaughtered us on Sunday and that annoys me. But it also explains why he was so good at holding/blocking Greer without drawing a flag. He’s a FB, he almost certainly knows all the tricks to get away with stuff even when he’s barely 5 yards from a ref who’s supposed to be watching him for that crap.

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