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Saints @ Packers: Preston's NFC Championship Prequel Preview - The Ant & The Grasshopper

Set to play the most anticipated season opener since last year, the Saints and Packers square off Thursday evening. If the schedule makers for the NFL had done anything but make this the first game, it would have been a travesty.

Listening to retired players (like Randy Cross or Mark Schlereth) who've been on Super Bowl teams that have repeated, or won double digit games perennially, the most important lesson a young team can take away is that each year is a new year, not a continuation of the last.  Every addition or subtraction made to the roster, every player on the rise or decline and every evolution of scheme by coordinators or the opponent's coordinators will make most assessments about last year's team obsolete (though in a fan's mind, plugging last year's holes makes them a better team this year; in reality, it only makes them a better team against last year's competition). 

Star-divide

Simply put, all the hard work, dedication and luck that it took to reach the pinnacle will not be enough to get to the same place a year later. It takes even more, as Saints fans know too well, and you have to start back from square one all over again.

Green Bay is in great position to repeat as Super Bowl Champions. Unlike the Saints, the Packers have already won three Super Bowls prior to their most recent. The point being, it is a little easier to stop the party in Wisconsin than in New Orleans (where we've waited 44 years to celebrate), especially in this unique off-season where the champs never got much time to gloat or be the center of attention. 

The Packers are different than a team like the 2007 Giants however. They didn't just get on a hot streak in the post-season; they were hot for a few different stretches throughout the regular season, with injury being the only thing that kept them from staying hot the entire year. The scary thing is that they won it all with 15 or more players on injured reserve, many of whom were main contributors, like Jermichael Finley. All those players are now healthy and back for a title defense.

Aside from being the past two winners of the Super Bowl, the Saints and Packers have a lot in common: a top 5 quarterback, a top 5 offensive guru head coach, a top 5 defensive coordinator, a top 5 general manager, each build well through the draft, each are adept at developing players, each find diamonds in the rough as undrafted free agents and each team is loaded with depth at all the skill positions.  So what sets the two apart?

The most glaring difference I see is the pass rush. Dom Capers is old school like Gregg Williams. He's got a top notch secondary that can play man coverage so that he can get creative and send enough blitzes to make Rex Ryan blush. However, I wouldn't panic too much because the blitz needs time to get to the QB, and Drew Brees gets the ball off pretty quickly. Just as Aaron Rodgers beat Pittsburgh's blitz for most of Super Bowl XLV, look for Drew Brees to make Green Bay's day with his quick draw. 

The next difference (not as obvious yet) is the Saints ability to go old school and run the ball at will. They have (arguably) the best interior offensive line in the NFL.  Want to know the best way to neutralize an aggressive defense?  Run it down their throat and come back with play action. Throw screen passes, run draws and counters to take advantage of over-pursuit. I'll gladly take the Saints offensive line - in both run block and pass protection - over Green Bay's.  Add to that a bull in tap dance shoes - Mark "The Calves Of Destiny" Ingram  - Pierre "PT Cruiser" Thomas with his screen ability and Darren "Mighty Mouse" Sproles playing the role of Reggie Bush, and the Saints offense will be able to slow down Green Bay's defense and force them to think instead of react.  Throw Joique "Reach Out And Touch Someone" Bell into the mix for good measure, and I'd say the Saints have the clear advantage in the running game.

Green Bay's biggest match-up problem with the Saints comes in the person of super freak tight end Jermichael Finley.  I can't tell you with a straight face how the Saints plan to answer that conundrum.  Everything Saints fans envision Jimmy Graham becoming, Finley already is.  The Saints will obviously have to bracket him with a linebacker and safety, and quite frankly, this scares me.  I wouldn't be surprised if Gregg Williams' game plan is to shut everyone else down and let Finley "get his."

While the Pack's passing attack is a true "pick your poison," they only have a modest rushing game to provide some semblance of balance. This will be one of those games where the additions of DT's Shaun Rogers and Aubrayo Franklin (paired next to Ellis) will pay dividends. Green Bay will probably try to take advantage of the Saints DE situation by utilizing outside rushes.  Why run at Ellis/Rogers/Franklin?  Why not target Will Smith's replacement and/or rookie Cameron Jordan?  Now the Saints DB's have to become quicker at diagnosing pass/run situations and be on the lookout for the cut-back run.  It will make Green Bay's play fakes more dangerous. We'll learn in a hurry how well the changes at the OLB positions pan out.

These teams are evenly matched. Green Bay has a passing attack that matches up well with the Saints, and a pass rush that is the envy of many Saints fans. The Saints have the edge with the offensive line and rushing attack. Green Bay has the better field goal kicker. The Saints have better cover cornerback depth, the Packers have better safety depth. The Saints have a better defensive line while Green Bay obviously has better linebacker's. So how does this thing end?

Remember what those previous repeat champions said in the first paragraph?  The Saints learned that lesson the hard way and, unlike Green Bay, they've taken it to heart this year. Drew Brees organized off-season training activities so while the Packers were enjoying the lockout, the Saints were preparing for the winter. That preparation will be the difference Thursday night when the Saints go in to Lambeau Field and defeat the defending Super Bowl Champions 31 to 27.

 

Stat Time

Note: these stats are the totals for the 2010 regular season.  Each team is different but it's the best starting point we have to go off of. Starting in Week 2, we'll have a new running total. This is to give you an idea of where the team was strong (or weak) in comparison to the rest of the league and weekly opponent. I will spell out most stats the first time they appear, and abbreviate the next.  The number to the left of the team's name is where they rank out of all 32 teams in the league in that category. Significant stats (compared to opponent) bolded for emphasis.

Total Offense

6.  Saints - 24 points per game, 373 yards per game, 5.6 yards per play, 49% 3rd down conversion, 32:05 time of possession, -6 turnover margin

9. Packers - 24 ppg, 358 ypg, 5.7 ypp, 42% 3rd down, 32:01 TOP, +10 TO margin

 

Passing Offense

3. Saints - 278 ypg, 7.0 yards per attempt, 68.1% completion rate, 33 touchdowns, 22 interceptions, 47- 20+ yard passing plays (explosive plays), 26 sacks given up, 90.8 quarter back rating

5. Packers - 258 ypg, 8.0 ypa, 65.1 % comp, 31 td, 13 int, 57- 20+yard plays, 38 sacks, 98.9 qb rating

 

Rushing Offense

24. Packers-100 ypg, 3.8 yards per carry, 11 tds, 4 fumbles lost, 3 20+ yard plays

28. Saints - 95 ypg, 4.0 ypc, 9 tds, 7 fumbles lost, 7 20+ yard plays

 

Translation:  Both teams are pretty even on offense.  Green Bay has the edge on explosive plays, but their offensive line gives up more sacks. The Saints had too many turnovers last year.  Injuries at RB robbed both teams of the balance needed.

 


Total Defense

4. Saints - 19 ppg, 306 ypg, 5.2 ypp, 32% 3rd down, 16 fumbles recovered

5. Packers - 15 ppg, 309 ypg, 5.1 ypp, 36% 3rd down, 8 fr

 

Passing Defense

4. Saints - 193 ypg, 6.8 ypa, 61.9% comp, 13 td, 9 int, 42- 20+ yard plays, 33 sacks, 83.2 opposing qb rating

5. Packers - 194 ypg, 6.5 ypa, 56.2% comp, 16 td, 24 int, 44- 20+ yard plays, 47 sacks, 67.2 oqb rating

 

Rushing Defense

16. Saints - 112 ypg, 4.3 ypc, 13 td, 8 fr, 13- 20+ yard plays

18. Packers - 115 ypg, 4.7 ypc, 6 td, 6 fr, 10- 20+ yard plays

 

Translation:  Both teams are stout against the pass.  Green Bay gets more pressure, which results in more interceptions and a lower QB rating for their opponent.

 

Overall Statistical Summary:  These two teams are so evenly matched, you'd swear there's no difference. It should make for a great game. I can say with confidence that I think the Saints running game will be better than the Packers. This should help nullify some of Green Bay's pass rush.  The tale of the tape shows that this is the perfect game to kickoff the 2011 season.


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I haven't been this on edge since, well, last year's season opener.

It’s just one game, though. I just want the Saints to start this campaign off with a big win, and this would be quite a feather in their cap.

by Nabb1 on Sep 7, 2011 10:05 AM CDT reply actions   2 recs

I'm super stoked too!

Gonna be a hell of a game.

"It ain't about how hard you hit, it is about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward, how much can you take and KEEP MOVING FORWARD. That's how winning is done!" - Rocky

by Dan Kelly on Sep 7, 2011 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

don’t remind me.

"It ain't about how hard you hit, it is about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward, how much can you take and KEEP MOVING FORWARD. That's how winning is done!" - Rocky

by Dan Kelly on Sep 8, 2011 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ready to go but have a question....

This is kinda off the subject, but I just read somewhere that Chris Ivory was cut. I thought he was on the PUP list. Can someone let me know the story here? Preciate fellas!

by Saint for life on Sep 7, 2011 10:30 AM CDT reply actions  

On the PUP list. Initial reports about him being cut were wrong.

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by Alex Swift on Sep 7, 2011 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

I did see that also that he was cut. I’m glad he’s not.

by DeenaC on Sep 7, 2011 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

You still needing an avator

How about DeenaC warrior princess

or

INGRAMANIA equals LOMBARDI 2012

by cajuncommando58 on Sep 7, 2011 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

Anything in a slightly more mature model? LOL. These look half my age.

by DeenaC on Sep 7, 2011 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

Do like I do

LIE

INGRAMANIA equals LOMBARDI 2012

by cajuncommando58 on Sep 7, 2011 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

LOL

Perfect. Or at least a little more realistic. I passed my lying days about 10 years ago.

by DeenaC on Sep 7, 2011 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry

couldn’t find anything in-between.

INGRAMANIA equals LOMBARDI 2012

by cajuncommando58 on Sep 7, 2011 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

dmcdani2 Deandre McDaniel
Signed with the Indianapolis Colts today! New home! It’s not where u start, its where u finish!

Mark Ingram-OROY
Cam Jordan-DROY
New Orleans Saints-2012 Super Bowl Champs

by Alex Swift on Sep 7, 2011 10:46 AM CDT reply actions  

I knew somebody would pick him up. Think he will be a star in time.

by Saint for life on Sep 7, 2011 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Slim to none

Rec’d

Peyton, I can eat Oreos faster than you!!!!

by mknkachow on Sep 7, 2011 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

When you rec someone in a post

You should probably click the “rec” button…. unless you’re using a mobile phone. LOL Just giving you a hard time, no offense. It’s going to be a long day waiting for tomorrow night.

Hmmm...
I probably shouldn’t come on this. ;-)

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by Dave Cariello on Aug 24, 2011 10:31 AM PDT

by Cajun in CA on Sep 7, 2011 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sums up my feelings.

I think they go out and do well…but lose. No shame in that though.

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by Jon Banks on Sep 7, 2011 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like Don Banks assessment.....

Forgetting about past SB winning host team’s record thus far, Banks says, “something tells me they’re (the Saints) not going into Lambeau with the idea of playing the sacrificial lamb.” He goes on to say, “Remember this game in week 17 if we’re looking at tiebreakers to determine the conference’s top seed.”

What a way to start a season.

by Drew-Dat on Sep 7, 2011 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

What a way to start a season.

they do have some good games opening weekend.

"It ain't about how hard you hit, it is about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward, how much can you take and KEEP MOVING FORWARD. That's how winning is done!" - Rocky

by Dan Kelly on Sep 7, 2011 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Everyone was saying

How hard it is to stay motivated after winning a Superbowl. The Packers may have fallen into that trap, with not having team organized camps over the summer. The Saints, on the other hand, have a bad taste in their mouth from that playoff debacle and want to prove to everyone that that was a fluke. What better way to prove yourself than against the defending champs on primetime. What team wants it more? We’ll find out tomorrow!!! I can’t wait!!!!

Peyton, I can eat Oreos faster than you!!!!

by mknkachow on Sep 7, 2011 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

When was the last time it was the TWO previous SB winners?

Can we get a rundown of those 7 games – just what teams?

"It ain't about how hard you hit, it is about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward, how much can you take and KEEP MOVING FORWARD. That's how winning is done!" - Rocky

by Dan Kelly on Sep 7, 2011 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don’t think the opening game has ever been the two previous SB winners before. More times than not, the scheduling formula wouldn’t allow for it.

by Drew-Dat on Sep 7, 2011 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Boom

Hey Drew, get your son's headphones ready.

by Triple A on Sep 7, 2011 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1!!

"It ain't about how hard you hit, it is about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward, how much can you take and KEEP MOVING FORWARD. That's how winning is done!" - Rocky

by Dan Kelly on Sep 8, 2011 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

I heard this will be the eighth time the NFL has kicked off the season with the prior year’s Super Bowl winner hosting.

I heard it was the last 11 seasons and the SB champ is 11-0.

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by cscmember on Sep 8, 2011 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

I heard 8 and 7.

"It ain't about how hard you hit, it is about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward, how much can you take and KEEP MOVING FORWARD. That's how winning is done!" - Rocky

by Dan Kelly on Sep 8, 2011 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

All day long yesterday on the local news they kept saying 11 years.

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by cscmember on Sep 8, 2011 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

my only (flimsy) argument would be…

ESPN said 8 and 7, and if they could have said a bigger number to make it look like a bigger hurdle, they would have.

"It ain't about how hard you hit, it is about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward, how much can you take and KEEP MOVING FORWARD. That's how winning is done!" - Rocky

by Dan Kelly on Sep 8, 2011 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

I can’t find anything to back up my statement. I just know what the radio told me.

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by cscmember on Sep 8, 2011 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

They are going to mention it in pre-game and early in the game tonight… so well see which news outlet is more right.

"It ain't about how hard you hit, it is about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward, how much can you take and KEEP MOVING FORWARD. That's how winning is done!" - Rocky

by Dan Kelly on Sep 8, 2011 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Good point. If I had to guess my source is probably wrong. They still have a countdown clock for the game that says it starts at 8:30pm.

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by cscmember on Sep 8, 2011 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

I recommend you show up t least an hour early, then.

"It ain't about how hard you hit, it is about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward, how much can you take and KEEP MOVING FORWARD. That's how winning is done!" - Rocky

by Dan Kelly on Sep 8, 2011 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

HA! I hear ya. I understand the game is for 8:30pm east coast time, but what does that have to do with us in the central time zone?

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by cscmember on Sep 8, 2011 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

What really stands out between these 2 last year...

Is the turnover margin. Turnovers could very well make the difference Thursday night, as well.

by Valmo on Sep 7, 2011 4:14 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Excellent observation!

You are a very wise man.

"It ain't about how hard you hit, it is about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward, how much can you take and KEEP MOVING FORWARD. That's how winning is done!" - Rocky

by Dan Kelly on Sep 7, 2011 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

or maybe time of possession

Preseason is over!!!!

by BRSaintsFan on Sep 7, 2011 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

you missed CP also i guess

Now that we have a 2011 season let's win the Superbowl!

by skinnykinney on Sep 8, 2011 2:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

Excellent observation!

You are a very wise man.

"It ain't about how hard you hit, it is about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward, how much can you take and KEEP MOVING FORWARD. That's how winning is done!" - Rocky

by Dan Kelly on Sep 8, 2011 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Great work Preston

I don’t necessarily agree with it all, but good stuff all the same.

by HB-NOLA on Sep 7, 2011 4:15 PM CDT reply actions  

In regards to Jermichael Finley

while I was immensely impressed watching him play in 2009 and the little bit he played in 2010, it should be noted that last year he only caught 22 passes in 5 games in 2010. He also is only averaging less than 3 catches per game for his career. Even during his “breakout” season, he only averaged about 4 catches per game. So, while it wouls appear he will probably be apro-bowl candidate this year for a variry of reasons, I think he still has to get some substantial performances under his belt as his resume is quite abbreviated even though, as I said, he appeared amazing at times in the past. Just how he comes back from an injury is a question mark also.

By comparison, Jimmy Graham actually had a better rookie year.

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by Philinwood on Sep 7, 2011 5:32 PM CDT reply actions  

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh....

We want to stay under the radar!!

"It ain't about how hard you hit, it is about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward, how much can you take and KEEP MOVING FORWARD. That's how winning is done!" - Rocky

by Dan Kelly on Sep 8, 2011 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

too late

rotoworld.com:

According to ESPN’s Adam Schefter, Drew Brees has developed “an awfully strong reliance” on TE Jimmy Graham. “Look for a lot of Jimmy Graham tonight,” Schefter predicts. Rotoworld matchups expert Evan Silva advises that Graham should be “locked into” fantasy football lineups as a “must-start” against the Packers. Gregg Rosenthal and Chris Wesseling have Graham ranked as the No. 6 tight end this week.
Source: Evan Silva on Twitter
Sep 8

Some will rob you with a six gun, some with a fountain pen.

by stujo4 on Sep 8, 2011 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

"It ain't about how hard you hit, it is about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward, how much can you take and KEEP MOVING FORWARD. That's how winning is done!" - Rocky

by Dan Kelly on Sep 8, 2011 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ant and Grasshopper

the Owl and the Pussycat

Dog and Butterfly

WIN NOW
WINGRAMANIA!!!!

by Hans Petersen on Sep 7, 2011 8:16 PM CDT reply actions  

The Scorpion and the Toad

"It ain't about how hard you hit, it is about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward, how much can you take and KEEP MOVING FORWARD. That's how winning is done!" - Rocky

by Dan Kelly on Sep 8, 2011 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

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