Why Drew Brees, and not Aaron Rodgers, is the MVP

Sorry Rams

Looking at the above numbers…..Brees should now be the favorite.

If Flynn can do all of that, it makes me wonder about Rodgers’ MVP cred. Brees should be the MVP. I know I’m very biased, but at the very least the voters shouldn’t just hand it over to Rodgers. I fear that they already made up their minds about who to vote for weeks ago and will be too lazy at this point to really consider others.

I kinda agree with Troy Aikman in that they should both be co-MVPs. Brady deserves MVP consideration too. Reminds me of 2009 when the voters gave it to Peyton Manning despite the great season Brees had. Brees wound up showing up that vote by beating Manning and the Colts and winning the SB MVP, which is much more important.

The good news for now is that we next get to face that Lions D that Flynn just torched. I’d rather face them in the first round than the Falcons. The Falcons are too familiar with us and are more capable of beating us than the Lions, IMHO.

think AFC teams, Hans – Buffalo? Miami? Oakland? Indy?

think NFC teams, Hans – Seattle? Chicago? Washington?

LSU! LSU! LSU!

but justice will come in the form of the Saints beating the Packers in the NFC championship game and then going on to win the Super Bowl along with the LSU victory over the Gumps in the BCS title game. This poor little backwards southern state of our’s are just a pain in the ass of all of the big time progressive states and their holier than thou media hacks. They mock and critisize us because they do not understand us nor are they one of us. They acknowledge us only because we are too good to ignore. No Mardi Gras, no Fleur de Lis, no crawfish no beads. No fais do do, no sauce piquante, no speckeled trout no Thibodeaux. These are just a few things, so how could they know? Who Dat

used to work with him like 6-7 yrs. Good Man, good writer, got his last book. One day Ronnie shows up with one his daughters and bud of mine from college, they had just got engaged, all pre-94. Small World. Now I want to contact him. Thanks.

Like I said before, this thing was decided upon by Rodgers performance in last year’s playoffs and superbowl. It has been a foregone conclusion since week one. And to his credit, Rodgers has played at an incredible level ever since for one of the league’s most popular teams.
How dare Drew Brees go and interfere! Now the voters might actually have to look at the numbers, compare performances and actually think about their decision. In their totality, Brees’ numbers are better than Rodgers. And if that’s all it was, and Rodgers got the MVP based on his advantage in the win/loss record or the nebulous QB rating computation, it wouldn’t really bother me. It’s just a voted on BS award anyway. But when you look at Brees’ numbers historically, he didn’t just outplay Rodgers, he outperformed every QB in NFL history. How can this be ignored??? How can he not be awarded the MVP when you look at his season in it’s historical context? Yet, the only thing this historic performance has made the analysts think about is new and ever weaker excuses for why Brees shouldn’t be MVP. First, it was ‘yeah but the Packers are undefeated’. Then, it was ‘yeah, but Rodgers has more TDs’ and Brady will probably pass Brees yardage record next week.’ Wrong again. Next, it was ‘Still, nobody can play the position like Rodgers’, and then Flynn outperforms Rogers best career game. Oops. Today on TV, the excuse was ‘Brees overwhelming cumulative stats don’t matter because Rodgers played better from start to finish’. WUT?! Tomorrow, I expect the analysts to just put their fingers in their ears while loudly shouting ‘I can’t hear you’ when presented with mindboggling number of NFL records broken by Brees and the Saints this season. Anything less than co-mvp is a joke. I’ll be laughing when Brees wins his second Superbowl MVP. I just hope he does the Rodgers ‘belt celebration’ when he’s at the podium.

I agree that Brees should be MVP, but saying that it’s because Matt Flynn is also a good quarterback is nonsense. Should we take away Tom Brady’s 07 MVP because Matt Cassel did well the year after?

Factor out drops, throwaways, and spikes, and Rodgers is a at 79.5% completion percent, and Brees is at 77.2 completion percent.

It’s true that Rodgers’ numbers would have been greater had he played an extra game; it’s also true that his completion percentage, passer rating, and any other stat expressible as a ratio might have gone down rather than up. What’s truest of all is: we’ll never know.

Course’, none of the voters are gonna look at stats that deep. And yeah, I’m starting to think Brees is gonna win the MVP this year; And he absolutely deserves it. It’s not like it’s a major travesty, it would make 100% sense. I’m hoping for CO-MVPs for Rodgers/Brees, but we’ll see. Whoever wins it deserves it.. They both set NFL records this year. I still think it’s really impressive that Rodgers put up similar numbers in only 15 games. No doubt, the other 29 NFL teams would all kill for either of our quarterbacks, so I guess it’s a good problem to have.

And finally,

What does it all mean? That Green Bay misses almost nothing with Aaron Rodgers sitting on the sideline. Does anyone really believe—yet—that the Saints could pull off the same sort of offensive dominance they’ve shown this season—especially aganst a playoff team—if Chase Daniel were playing in Drew’s place? (And that’s not meant as a knock on Daniel: I think he’ll turn out to be a good pro.)

You can’t compare backups, to compare the actual quarterbacks. You just can’t do it. So because Matt Flynn is a much better quarterback than Chase Daniels, Brees is better than Rodgers? Or, if Chase Daniels was plugged into QB for our game, he could have thrown 6 TD, 1 INT? This wasn’t a screen, max-protect, run the ball game for Flynn. This was a game where Flynn actually made a ton of throws, that many NFL quarterbacks would have been hard pressed to make. You just looked at the stats and made that assumption. Really, that’s just an awful argument altogether.

Anyways, that’s my two cents, but I’m hoping for CO-MVPs. We’ll see, though.

saying Rodgers is a better QB simply because Brees has a better supporting cast and Rodgers basically has to do it all by himself. Very…interesting…

or the Packs are buld the same way as the Saints, which in return copied New England plan. Interchangeable pieces due to great coaching. Except when Payton drops the run too early…

and winning the superbowl MVP is more appealing. that’s what happened in 2009 and i’m willing to bet that’s what happens this year.

i also don’t think the weather will slow them down at all. i can just imagine all the sports analysts giving their reasons as to why the saints cruised through the playoffs while who dat nations nods its head with a smirk.

i feel like the saints will blow past all the competition and make for a boring (yet thoroughly enjoyable) post season.

and that all but 1 of their outside games came early in pristine weather?

Rodgers is the MVP this year. Not that it really matters in the grand scheme. I’m sure if they could cheat the vote they’d split between the two.

People are getting so crazy about all these factors about playing in a dome, pass friendly offense, running up the score or padding stats, wind versus no wind, overall season record, etc etc etc.

First of all last time I checked, football was a team sport, since when did wins and losses in a season solely land on the shoulders of a QB? Is it Drew’s fault that we lost two more games then the pack? Packers fans will say that because of the picks he threw in those games (one stat where Rodgers beats Drew i.e. fewer picks) yes it was Drew’s fault. A Saints fan can quickly turn around and say that while the Packers D is also suspect, they also were able to corral 31 interceptions over the Saints 9. That goes a long way to field position and overall flow of the game so in that regard Rodgers had it easier and his D bailed him out of some games (Saints had 17 FF with 7 recovered while GB had 13 forced with 7 recovered so thats a push).

Stats are stats. Who determines which stats are more important? Rodgers has some impressive ones. So does Brees. Whose are superior to whose? Depends on who you ask.

Putting on my homer hat. One player set several records. Led his team to a very successful season. Led his team in the off season to come together and work out together during contract negotiations while also playing a large role in CBA process. MVP vote to me is Drew Brees. Taking nothing away from Rodgers amazing season. To me Drew was just as impressive and more.

and also at putting more bullets in the Pack fans guns than ours since I am seriously too lazy to look up the stat:

Does anyone know what the yards after the catch numbers look like for both squads? Seems like almost every base has been touched at this point, but I haven’t seen that mentioned anywhere.

What is the QB rating for games with over 25 attempts per game??