Saints @ 49ers: Da Chronic's Divisional Podcast Preview
by Dave Cariello on Jan 12, 2012 6:01 AM CST
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PrintIn Part One of our playoff preview Andrew Juge stops by to break down the 49ers, explain how the Saints can indeed run the ball against the tough San Francisco defense and how the Saints will protect Brees against the rush and still throw the ball. He and Ralph also spend a few minutes consoling each other over the LSU car fire.
Then, in Part Two of our huge playoff podcast special Kevin explains how fans always want their head coach to have all the qualities they would hate in a boss. He also thinks Sean Payton needs to show 'Road House' on the team flight. Ralph wants payback because Joe Montana ruined his childhood and Dave wishes for a monster game from Malcolm Jenkins.
Be sure to start listening with the second track on the below playlist before playing the first.
Listen right now below, get the feed right here and/or download it on iTunes right here.
Warning: explicit language and adult content.
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First: what are Andrew’s qualifications as a football analyst? This isn’t meant as a knock on him…I just want to know what his experience is.
Second: here is a scenario I haven’t heard talked about. It’s unlikely, of course; but only because ALL scenarios are inherently unlikely. Despite that, I can easily see this actually happening.
It’s pretty much a given that the 49ers are going to want long, grinding drives to “keep Drew Brees on the bench,” and limit the Saints’ series. So here’s the scenario: what if the 49ers’ offense is more effective than they mean to be? What I mean is: over the course of the game, Gore breaks off several 40+ runs, and Smith has several 40+ pass plays—plays that put them repeatedly in the red zone, quickly, where they stall, kick a field goal, and hand the ball over to the Saints after taking 3 minutes off the clock instead of 9. The Saints have been prone to give up big plays, but turn stingy in the red zone, so this isn’t far-fetched at all. And if the 49ers fail to keep the Saints’ offense off the field, and try to match them field goal for touchdown…well, we all know how that ends.
"Sinn Féin, motherf*****s!"
when i think of the saints in a game like this....
I think of the “everyone has a plan going into a fight until they get punched in the face”. In an individuals mind they can set up a plan and be completely ready to throw down but soon as they get hit really hard in the face and how the react to that moment will prob dictate the result of the fight. The saints are really good at throwing haymakers, and if you look at every conversation every blog has before they play us they say, dont let drew on the field, control the TOP with the run game, blah blah blah. However how often do we see the saints score two quick TDs and teams completely abandon their plan because no where in thier plan was there a part where they fall 14 points behind a historically great offense.
Andrew's qualifications?
Dude, he coached the 1970’s Pittsburgh Steelers to 4 World Titles, invented the forward pass, can shot gun a beer in 3 seconds, and I think he watches Saints games occasionally and grades the players on a some world famous website. What site? I forget.
"Saints fans should be sending Paul Tagliabue primo Hollywood quality hookers monthly for the remainder of his life"---Andrew Juge
Ha ha
ha. No, really…I mean, does he have college experience? Is he a sports journalist in another life? Does he have access to the game films and a lot of time on his hands? I’m curious.
"Sinn Féin, motherf*****s!"
My qualifications
Pretty much everything Ralph just said. I also created the bread slicer.
My experience is limited. I played football till I was 17. Mostly quarterback. My dad was a football coach and I was the statistician for his teams from the age of 8 till about 13. So I guess my stats analysis and player evals started at a young age. And I just watch the games like anybody else, record them, and replay them to look for the little nuances. No doubt my grades would be much more complete with access to gametape, which I do not have. I played tennis in college so I was an NCAA athlete, but not football. Definitely more a passion than an expertise. But I do shotgun a mean beer and I’ve been known to pull the reins on Terry Bradshaw. Just sayin’.
by Andrew Juge on Jan 12, 2012 12:03 PM CST up reply actions
Okay. Now I know. You played football at a higher level than me, son of a coach, I grant you have a better background. That’s all I was wondering. I mean, you could have been Jesus1000, for all I knew.
"Sinn Féin, motherf*****s!"
He's also a dad.
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by Dave Cariello on Jan 12, 2012 12:58 PM CST up reply actions
speaking of which
what’s your due date again? Gotta be soon. Ready to change diapers? #bestthingever
April 24th
Dylan Joseph.
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by Dave Cariello on Jan 12, 2012 2:45 PM CST up reply actions
What....and Jeffina isn't good enough for you?
-Lombardi was wrong...it's the internet, not fatigue that makes cowards of us all. But then again, what do you expect. Not like the guy could see the future.
I like Brooklyn as a name.
I also like Brooklyn Decker.
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by Dave Cariello on Jan 12, 2012 3:35 PM CST up reply actions
Sarah
I am married. And I actually prefer “ruggedly handsome in a gods gift to women kind of way” instead of “pretty”. But I knew what you meant.
I like Hamburgers!
Uh oh...better put an Asterisk on it.
Hey! March 29th is my birthday!!
"I'm in the Courtroom screaming Who Dat on the double, serving gumbo with a shovel, dog i'm on another level" -Jay Electonica
Haha!!!
Well played.
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by Dave Cariello on Jan 12, 2012 3:35 PM CST up reply actions
What.....Jeff not good enough for you?
-Lombardi was wrong...it's the internet, not fatigue that makes cowards of us all. But then again, what do you expect. Not like the guy could see the future.
You've ruined the name for me forever!
Just kidding. :-)
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by Dave Cariello on Jan 12, 2012 3:35 PM CST up reply actions
So I shouldn't tell you my middle name is Dylan? **scratches out jeff l b and replaces it with jeff d b
-Lombardi was wrong...it's the internet, not fatigue that makes cowards of us all. But then again, what do you expect. Not like the guy could see the future.
Qualifications?
Ah. Well… He attended Julliard… He’s a graduate of the Harvard business school. He travels quite extensively. He lived through the Black Plague and had a pretty good time during that. He’s seen the EXORCIST ABOUT A HUNDRED AND SIXTY-SEVEN TIMES, AND IT KEEPS GETTING FUNNIER EVERY SINGLE TIME HE SEES IT… NOT TO MENTION THE FACT THAT YOU’RE TALKING TO A DEAD GUY… NOW WHAT DO YOU THINK? You think he’s qualified?
he's also tugged on Superman's cape, spit into the wind, and pulled the mask of that Old Lone Ranger
just piling for no other reason than I thought the Jim Croce would be funny – and here comes some Muhammad Ali:
he’s so mean, he makes medicine sick
Having the ball is better than not having the ball. And if you punt,
not only does it mean you don't have the ball anymore—
it means you didn't score, which sucks.
by Hans Petersen on Jan 12, 2012 7:09 PM CST up reply actions
Rule Interpretation
In the Detroit game, on fourth and one, Brees leaped forward and extended the ball forward then pulled it back. Easy first down. This play was identical to the goal line play against the Dolphins in 2009. However, a key difference is that the Detroit play was not a goal line play. Once the ball crosses the goal line, it’s a touchdown. I always thought that, in the open field, the ball is marked where forward progress is stopped or where the ball is when you are down (knee, elbow etc). In an open field scenario, would an official give someone forward progress if they reach a ball out, pull it back, and then get touched/tackled by someone. I’m guessing the runner would not get the ball spot where he reaches out, but where he was tackled.
I thought the same thing at the time
I saw Drew pull the ball back and shouted at the television. Then they gave the Saints the first down, and I made myself as small as possible and hoped the refs wouldn’t notice me. They must have been screaming in Detroit.
It really was a wretched game for the officials. Sorry, Lions.
"Sinn Féin, motherf*****s!"
I believe...
they call it “forward progress”, but I’d need to see the play again (in slow mo) to see everything that happened.
The standard of forward progress was included in the rules so the defense couldn’t bodily pick up a ball carrier and move him back. But if the ball carrier voluntarily goes backwards, and then is stopped, he doesn’t get credited with the progress he gave up. That’s essentially what Drew did and got away with, in my opinion.
But this is the same officiating crew who didn’t bother to stop the clock for change of possession at the end of the game, so it seems they have a cavalier attitude toward the rules.
"Sinn Féin, motherf*****s!"
Actually, I think its b/c he was in contact with the defender.
I don’t think it mattered that they didn’t have their arms around him, they mark the runner’s furthest forward progress between time of contact and actually going down, as long as contact is not broken and runner gets free. Make any sense?
This isn't about rules, it's about manners. Now there's no rule that says that I cant come over here and fart on your entree. But I don't do it. Why? Because it's not good manners.
^ This is what I thought
Wondered about the spot as well, but then realized that they probably considered his forward motion stopped at the point before he pulled the ball back because of contact with defenders.
"Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first.." - Mark Twain
You're sure its not Tebow Time?
Probably not. I don’t feel nauseous.
This isn't about rules, it's about manners. Now there's no rule that says that I cant come over here and fart on your entree. But I don't do it. Why? Because it's not good manners.
yeah, they totally missed the FOTC reference at first
Having the ball is better than not having the ball. And if you punt,
not only does it mean you don't have the ball anymore—
it means you didn't score, which sucks.
by Hans Petersen on Jan 14, 2012 8:28 AM CST up reply actions
Oh My Godd nobody got the FOTC reference?!?!?!?!
"I'm in the Courtroom screaming Who Dat on the double, serving gumbo with a shovel, dog i'm on another level" -Jay Electonica
And the Wire too??
I think I just messed up my nerd boxers..
"I'm in the Courtroom screaming Who Dat on the double, serving gumbo with a shovel, dog i'm on another level" -Jay Electonica
I've never seen The Wire
Having the ball is better than not having the ball. And if you punt,
not only does it mean you don't have the ball anymore—
it means you didn't score, which sucks.
by Hans Petersen on Jan 14, 2012 8:28 AM CST up reply actions
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