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Dave Cariello
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Man...seriously?
I give it up to Grumps and you Dave for going over there. I dropped by and read the thread…I’ve never seen such disrespect on a large scale before. Even the Falcons fans treat us better and with more respect.
We may win, we may lose…but the things they say are so flat out egregious it’s mind boggling.
-Lombardi was wrong...it's the internet, not fatigue that makes cowards of us all. But then again, what do you expect. Not like the guy could see the future.
Me too!
I remember back in 2006 just before the 49ers came to NOLA to play the Saints, I was somewhere and overheard some 9ers fans talking about their upcoming schedule and saying winning against the Saints was going to be very easy. This was of course the year after the 3-13 2005 season and no one thought this rebuilt team with a new coach and QB coming off shoulder surgery were gonna even sniff the playoffs. We clobbered them 34-10.
Not saying the same will definitely happen this Saturday, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it did. I think Drew and the team are using this MVP snub they’re expecting as extra motivation. Yes, playing the 9ers in San Fran will be a much bigger challenge than if they played them in the Dome. But, all this talk about the Saints playing not playing as well outside and on what might be a slippery surface is getting way overblown. Our guys have heard of cleats and they’ll plan accordingly.
"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!
by David "Satch" Kelly on Jan 12, 2012 5:56 PM CST up reply actions
We have
the 4th best road record in the league since Drew and Payton came to Nawlins. We can and do play well on the road.
The base paths belonged to me, the runner. The rules gave me the right. I always went into a bag full speed, feet first. I had sharp spikes on my shoes. If the baseman stood where he had no business to be and got hurt, that was his fault. -Ty Cobb
My original prediction for the game wasw 35-10, but I cowered a bit and said 35-21.
by BlackandGold4ever on Jan 13, 2012 7:38 AM CST up reply actions
I think the problem is a clash of cultures in each blog
Your own Dave Cariello may have said it best when he said that 49er fans are more cerebral in the way we rout for and analyze teams while Saints fans are a lot more emotional in their approach.
This is why stats such as playing at home vs away have become such a sticking point and caused arguments as opposed to fun debates. 49er fans in their heads don’t see it as an insult or dig at the Saints while Saints fans see it as a blatant attempt to discount the quality of their team. I and all real niner fans truly respect the Saints and are really nervous/excited (50/50 on that) for Saturday. Neither teams’ fans have been disrespectful really it’s just a different approach than either blog is used to and it’s causing some friction.
Good luck Saturday regardless of how you feel about the 49ers or the fans. Both teams are great and should provide a fun game to watch regardless of the outcome.
"We ask no quarter, we give no quarter" - Jim Harbaugh
by Method24 on Jan 12, 2012 6:51 PM CST up reply actions 6 recs
Well said.
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by Dave Cariello on Jan 12, 2012 7:31 PM CST up reply actions
Well said
Just because we have chiseled abs and stunning features, it doesn't mean that we too can't not die in a freak gasoline fight accident.
by Fat Punk Kicker on Jan 12, 2012 10:15 PM CST up reply actions
Oh well
"Move over Marino, there's a new Brees coming through town!"-Jim Henderson
by BRSaintsFan on Jan 13, 2012 12:48 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Cut this chump!
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Cam Jordan-DROY
New Orleans Saints-2012 Super Bowl Champs
TOP IS GAWD!
I would agree…except for the times I would intelligently counter stats with other stats. And they would completely disregard it as if it never happened and keep on touting the same 2-3 stats. I tried to talk to them in an upfront manner and debate…but they didn’t want to talk or debate. They only wanted to talk about their 2-3 stats and heaven forbid you tried to counter them because it didn’t fit their “we’re gonna win” paradigm.
-Lombardi was wrong...it's the internet, not fatigue that makes cowards of us all. But then again, what do you expect. Not like the guy could see the future.
by jeff.l.b on Jan 13, 2012 10:26 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
LMAO
The fact you think it’s a “lac of respect” when on EVERY thread we’ve talked about how good your offense (and team) is, but you continually say our defense and such is only good because of our crappy division…..that’s mind boggling.
Love how us saying your offense is scary (just not AS scary away from home), and we’ve said it’s gonna be close and down the last possession is seen as disrespect. Apologies we don’t think you’re gonna win by five touchdowns. We should be allowed to have faith in our team, too.
"Bears are crazy, Willie. They'll bite your head off if you're wearing steak on it."
I’ve never said that once, and you very well know that. I love how you seem to think everything I’m talking about revolves around you and you alone…what gives?
-Lombardi was wrong...it's the internet, not fatigue that makes cowards of us all. But then again, what do you expect. Not like the guy could see the future.
I'll admit I haven't spent all week at niners nation...
So I’m mostly referring to the one referenced in this post (which was all I could stomach) but can you please show me all of the quotes stating some semblance of the following?
your offense is scary (just not AS scary away from home)
it’s gonna be close and down the last possession
our defense and such is only good because of our crappy division
Either I missed it or they were buried under an avalanche of “they haven’t played any good defenses” comments.
"But tonight the Superbowl belongs to the City of New Orleans" - Roger Goodell 2/7/2010
You could just look at any thread and find quotes for these
your offense is scary (just not AS scary away from home)
it’s gonna be close and down the last possession
Where is this one?
our defense and such is only good because of our crappy divisionWell, it’s right here.
so we're ignoring the first two?
I’ll grant you that Mtnexile did present some evidence that your defensive stats look a lot better due to the umm, lets say less than stellar division/schedule (he also mentioned that our schedule was easy as well). While I don’t necessarily agree with his statistical analysis that your defense is over-rated, let’s assume that I did. How is that anymore disrespectful than the constant refrain of “Saints haven’t played any good defenses, wait until Patrick Willis violates Jimmy Graham”?
Still waiting for the evidence of all of the warm and fuzzy accolades layed at the feet of the Saints…
"But tonight the Superbowl belongs to the City of New Orleans" - Roger Goodell 2/7/2010
No, I didn't ignore the first two. I guess you didn't read where I said look at any thread and you'll find it.
Yes, he did give evidence that our defense’s stats were inflated by our division. But it’s incorrect evidence as I proved in that post.
and I guess you ignored the part where I said
please show me all of the quotes…
I don’t have the stomach to wade through all of the posts over there to locate this avalanche of respect of which you speak. As I said originally:
Either I missed it or they were buried under an avalanche of "they haven’t played any good defenses" comments
Since it is so prevalent, I would’ve thought it fairly simple for you to provide some. But, if you’d rather use the “Oh, it’s there, trust me” defense go right ahead.
"But tonight the Superbowl belongs to the City of New Orleans" - Roger Goodell 2/7/2010
Because it's so easy for you to find it yourself.
I really can’t believe someone is saying 49ers fans don’t think the Saints are good, because they obviously are. Hey look at that, I just provided one for you. smh
I don't think I said that 49ers fans think Saints aren't good
What I said was that I wasn’t seeing all of this effusive praise about how scary we were and how it was going down to the last possession. I was mostly seeing comments about how our offense wasn’t going to stand up to your great and we were in for a rude awakening.
The quotes to which you refer obviously aren’t that easy to find because I wasn’t seeing them, at least in that one post. As far as I’m concerned the burden of proof is on you. This conversation is starting to sound like someone saying “I can do a backflip anytime I want” and me saying prove it and that person responding “well, I don’t feel like it right now, but believe me I CAN!”
Again, I say if they’re so prevalent SHOW ME. Otherwise drop it because you have officially made a mountain out of a molehill
"But tonight the Superbowl belongs to the City of New Orleans" - Roger Goodell 2/7/2010
Obviously we think our defense will contain you guys. And you think the Saints will continue to roll.
But I haven’t seen anyone say we’ll completely stop you guys and hold you to few points.
OK - I'm done
you won’t answer the question. I get it.
Good luck to all, but mostly the Saints
"But tonight the Superbowl belongs to the City of New Orleans" - Roger Goodell 2/7/2010
But I did answer it.
The Saints are obviously really good
You didn’t answer my question, though. So, I get it.
If you really want to believe we don’t think your offense is good then that’s your problem. Just because we’ve said that the Saints aren’t as good on the road than at home(fact) and that they are facing a good defense(fact) doesn’t mean we’re disrespecting your team. We can believe in our team, too.
Anyways
I think people are going really overboard with the whole “disrespect” thing. Saints fans think their team will win, and 49ers fans think their team will win.
Are 49ers fans disrespecting the Saints? I don’t see it.
Are Saints fans disrespecting the Niners? Don’t really see that either.
Supposedly
Being a “home dog” is going to make them so mad they’ll just beat the tar out of us.
Well, I suppose stranger things have happened.
I think we need to quit needing them to be scared of us
they went 13-3 and have one of the best defenses in the league. Why can’t they believe they’ll win? And why do some need them to think they won’t?
Having the ball is better than not having the ball. And if you punt,
not only does it mean you don't have the ball anymore—
it means you didn't score, which sucks.
I love how..
they act all hurt that we aren’t respecting them and are underestimating them, then proceed to spend most of the next 350 comments underestimating the Saints.
For the record, I know they’re a good team and expect a close hard-fought game on Saturday. I’m hoping for a gut wrenching and soul killing Montana-esque drive by Brees to steal the game in the 4th. (Well actually I’m hoping that we blow them out, but don’t think its gonna happen).
"But tonight the Superbowl belongs to the City of New Orleans" - Roger Goodell 2/7/2010
and they are saying the EXACT same thing about us
Having the ball is better than not having the ball. And if you punt,
not only does it mean you don't have the ball anymore—
it means you didn't score, which sucks.
by Hans Petersen on Jan 12, 2012 7:10 PM CST up reply actions
Can't speak for anyone else...
but I respect them and think they’re a good team. They seem upset that we might think we can do anything against their D.
"But tonight the Superbowl belongs to the City of New Orleans" - Roger Goodell 2/7/2010
by SaintBevo on Jan 12, 2012 7:35 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
i think people on both sides have mistaken confidence for disrespect
I expect you guys to be confident just as I am. We both have really good teams. People are excited and emotions are high. But whatever the outcome, I hope no one gets hurt because the winner needs to be ready to crush the packers
by Andrew9erfan on Jan 13, 2012 7:48 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah, unless the G-Men can take care of them, then the winner must crush the G-Men
GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!
by mjtig on Jan 13, 2012 5:12 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Really!?!?
(I don’t want to argue about the debates that have gone on over there/here… but that is not at all how I see it, HD. Let’s just agree that I’m right and you’re wrong about this to disagree.)
Can't wait for the predictions thread
I’m gonna go all super homer. Let out frustrations.
"Move over Marino, there's a new Brees coming through town!"-Jim Henderson
by BRSaintsFan on Jan 13, 2012 12:47 AM CST via mobile reply actions
I just find it funny that so many people over there are calling for all the Saints fans to come by and post over there if we lose. I certainly haven’t heard any of them talk about doing the same after they lose.
by BlackandGold4ever on Jan 13, 2012 8:38 AM CST reply actions
this is one of those playoff football games that non 9ers and saints fans will remember
i think it will be close, coming down to the last drive…
"As a Saint fan I watch ‘Gone with the Wind’ just to watch Atlanta burn" -Ralph Malbrough
by DrewBreesManCrush on Jan 13, 2012 2:42 PM CST reply actions
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