Saints @ 49ers: Game Predictions
Here we go, baby! It's do or die time for the Saints tomorrow in their Divisional playoff against the Niners and so it is for all of you as well in our weekly prediction contest.
By now you should all know what to do and how to do it, but just in case you don't, you can catch up on the rules of the game right here. As always, all are welcome to partake, including opposing fans. I fully expect our Niners Nation guests this week to take part as well. This is also a great opportunity for those readers who have never signed up or commented to finally dip their toe in the water.
Before we get started, we must continue the tradition of acknowledging last weeks winner and today that would be CSC member, WhoDatUpInYa, who just barely earned the victory by two votes. Here are the three predictions that earned him/her the win:
Total passing yards for both teams combined is greater than 600 yds
Harper gets called for a penalty no less than twice
Colston is top receiver for Saints
Let's get this party started!
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Saints 42, Niners 24
1. 49ers will score first and have more points at halftime
2. Jimmy Graham will score 2+ TDs
3. Frank Gore rushes for less than 100 yards but scores a TD
"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!
by David "Satch" Kelly on Jan 13, 2012 11:05 AM CST reply actions
Saints 35 - Niners 19
1) Saints have more rushing yards than Niners
2) Saints have even or negative TO differential but also intercept Alex Smith at least once
3) Niners convert no more than 1/3 of their 3rd downs
No one knows the score
Or the victor for sure.
But, the Saints having more rushing yards than the Niners is a bit absurd.
"Football combines the two worst things about America: It is violence punctuated by committee meetings" -George Will
by lottwasgangsta on Jan 13, 2012 6:35 PM CST up reply actions
..shoosh.. the talk has ended..
go watch some last minute film..
saints devastate..
by the 9th plague on Jan 13, 2012 7:26 PM CST up reply actions
Saints 42, Niners 0
Niners won’t score
Saints run for 150+ yards
Saints pass for 350+ yards
No wind = no problem
by singleblow on Jan 13, 2012 11:11 AM CST reply actions 3 recs
Also,
isn’t predicting the score as 49ers 0, then saying the “Niners won’t score” a little redundant?
Well, in that case, I'll try to find what I originally wanted to add last night while
I was snarling.
They can’t run, they can’t pass. What are they going to do frighten us with scary looks? Bore us to death with obnoxious comments?
"They can't run"?
Umm, have you seen a 49ers game this season? The “can’t pass” part I disagree on, but I could see how one might think that. The “can’t run” doesn’t even have a basis in reality.
"Football combines the two worst things about America: It is violence punctuated by committee meetings" -George Will
by lottwasgangsta on Jan 13, 2012 6:37 PM CST up reply actions
Never said it did.
This came out of frustration at a few of your fans. They got under my skin and, believe me, that’s really not an easy thing to do. So far, what I’ve read from you is not that way. You make your point, seem to stay reasonably respectful on an opponent’s site, and you don’t dig and irritate. I hope you don’t prove me wrong.
The zero score came about the same way.
I hope you are right.
GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!
by mjtig on Jan 13, 2012 4:57 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Saints 30 SanFran Smiths 22
1. Justin Smith forces/causes a safety.
2. Alex Smith is responsible for at least 3 turnovers.
3. Aldon Smith is responsible for at least 1 turnover (forces a fumble, gets an INT, etc.)
And before anyone points out
that Alex Smith hasn’t turned the ball over this season… I realize that. But, I believe in things returning to the norm eventually:
In 2010 Smith played in 11 games and had 10 interceptions, and 4 fumbles (2 lost).
In 2009 Smith played in 11 games and had 12 interceptions and 2 fumbles (1 lost).
While it’s not unheard of for a player to suddenly stop turning the ball over after doing so fairly consistently for years, it’s pretty rare. The new regime in San Fran has done a good job of installing an offense that minimizes risk. But in this game, I feel the Niners will be forced to take some on offense, and Mr. Smith will revert to his old ways.
Just so you know, the lack of turnovers, especially interceptions is by design
Just read that somewhere or other this morning. Good luck with it, though. I hope you’re right.
This
I could get behind. Even as a Niners fan, I feel like that works.
There are also a couple Smiths in the upcoming draft who play positions we might need. I personally feel that our team would be better if it had 8 or 9 Smiths, instead of 4.
"Football combines the two worst things about America: It is violence punctuated by committee meetings" -George Will
by lottwasgangsta on Jan 13, 2012 6:38 PM CST up reply actions
Hahahaha.
That’d be hilarious. I hereby decree your record this year to be null and void, due to the fact that opposing players kept getting confused about which Smith they were assigned to.
I want our defense to have more Smiths
“And Smith on the tackle…again…not sure which one”
Tracking that statistically would be a mess.
"Football combines the two worst things about America: It is violence punctuated by committee meetings" -George Will
by lottwasgangsta on Jan 13, 2012 9:57 PM CST up reply actions
keep all of the numbers close to each other
Like Willis and Bowman being 52 and 53. So when they can’t even use the numbers…
And when we win, we want to dominate. We want to take guys out. We want to hurt guys. We want to win. We just want to dominate, hit them in the mouth. - Rathman
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Saints 27 - Niners 20
1) Brees throws for two TD’s over 300 yards and is picked once or fumbles once.
2) Sproles has a rushing TD and averages over 5.5 yards per touch (catch or rush).
3) Saints secondary forces two turnovers.
I like Hamburgers!
Uh oh...better put an Asterisk on it.
The Homer in me predicts....Saints 48....49'ers 28
- Saints will gasp, much to the 9’ers disbelieve, win the turnover battle.
- Drew will not throw a INT and will throw for at least 350 yards and 4 TDs
- The Saints running game will shred the 49’ers D for at least 150 yards.
Bonus we will here the Saints can’t play outside up until we go ahead by 21 points.
Drew Brees....MVS Most Valuable Saint! Who Dat!!!
by cajuncommando58 on Jan 13, 2012 11:14 AM CST reply actions
here = hear
Drew Brees....MVS Most Valuable Saint! Who Dat!!!
by cajuncommando58 on Jan 13, 2012 11:15 AM CST up reply actions
we'll hear it until we beat Green Bay.
And even after. ;)
"I am a Saints player. Look, sir" Patrick Robinson
by CrazyforColston on Jan 13, 2012 11:28 AM CST up reply actions
I'm surprised
at how many people are picking the Giants, or at least saying GB needs to be careful. I guess it’s not that big of a stretch considering how close the first game between the two was, but it really feels like the rats are jumping off the sinking GB ship, and that surprises me since they were such media darlings until that KC game. And I think I’m with the folks calling for the Giants upset, actually. They may actually be the most balanced team from an offense/defense standpoint left.
Giants: Decent defense, capable offense
Saints: Ridiculous offense, mediocre at best defense
Broncos: Excellent defense, weird, highly suspect, stupid offense
Pats: Great offense, no defense
Pack: Great offense, no defense
Ravens: Good defense, questionable offense (I’d entertain that they’re the most balanced squad, but their passing game is so erratic, they’re hard to trust)
Texans: Very solid defense, one dimensional beat up offense (again, close to being balanced, but it’s just hard to bet on Yates)
Niners: Excellent defense, mediocre offense
Sorry. This comment went longer than I originally intended.
And, I'd argue that the Packs defense is stealth
They have a whole sh!tload of takeaways. If we play (and I think we will) it is going to be an interesting matchup. They play for the takeaway, we play to not give it away. They play for the takeaway, we play for the stop.
And
2 should read Drew will throw for At least 350 yards and at least 4 TDs.
Drew Brees....MVS Most Valuable Saint! Who Dat!!!
by cajuncommando58 on Jan 13, 2012 11:18 AM CST up reply actions
Saints 27, 49ers 16
1. Saints D finish with more sacks than the Niners D. (BOLD!)
2. Drew Brees finishes with LESS THAN 280 passing yards. (BOuLDER!)
3. Saints finish with more rushing yards than the Niners. (BOLDEST!)
"Gowin on fourth and 14 will punt it away. He hangs it very high, angling it for the near sideline...HAKIM DROPS THE BALL!!! HAKIM DROPS THE BALL!! Brian Milne might've fallen on it at the ten yard line! It's the New Orleans Saints' football! Brian Milne, the most unlikely hero of them all, falls on the fumble, the muff by Hakim! There is a God after all!" -- Jim Henderson
by hakimdropstheball on Jan 13, 2012 11:14 AM CST reply actions
Saints haven’t sacked a QB since Christian Ponder before Christmas.
trapped in grammar and calendars.
We had 2 in week 17 against Cam Newton (1 from Jordan, one from Martez Wilson)
by BlackandGold4ever on Jan 13, 2012 12:30 PM CST up reply actions
I remember because I actually predicted we’d get 2 or more and was quite pleased to see our pass rush do so well against such a mobile passer. Maybe that is the only way we get multiple sacks, though…
by BlackandGold4ever on Jan 13, 2012 2:00 PM CST up reply actions
Saints 35 Niners 10
1. Brees throws for 350+ yards and 3+ TDs
2. Saints run for 125+ yards
3. Saints get 3+ sacks and at least one turnover
Bonus predictions:
Brees doesn’t get sacked
Ivory busts a 20+ yard run just to show he isn’t overrated
Brees continues his streak of postseason games without an INT (he hasn’t thrown one in the playoffs for the Saints)
Payton incorporates some passes to Jed Collins just to make the 49ers worry about covering another player
by BlackandGold4ever on Jan 13, 2012 11:16 AM CST reply actions
Also, 49ers convert on less than 25% of third downs.
by BlackandGold4ever on Jan 13, 2012 11:17 AM CST up reply actions
Saints 31, 49ers 19
1. Jimmy Graham is not shut down by Willis, scores at least 1 TD/sick dunk.
2. Brees throws for over 300 yards, no INTs
3. Sproles has over 100 all-purpose yards
Saints 24 Niners 27
1. Brees throws at least 1 pick and the team commits at least 2 turnovers.
2. SF does not turn the ball over.
3. Alex Smith finishes with a higher completion percentage than Drew Brees.
Let’s just get this over with and move on win or lose. People have been sucking the enjoyment out of football all week long.
-Lombardi was wrong...it's the internet, not fatigue that makes cowards of us all. But then again, what do you expect. Not like the guy could see the future.
Me too!
We’re a shoo-in now thanks to Jeff.
"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!
by David "Satch" Kelly on Jan 13, 2012 11:25 AM CST up reply actions
Were he ever to pick us to win a playoff game,
I’d probably skip watching the game to get my affairs in order. It would signal that we were about to suffer a ridiculous loss (I’ll have to look for some documentation on who he picked in the Rams/Saints matchup) or that the world is coming to an end, just as the Mayans predicted.
Y'all hammered him so hard the week before he didn't make one
And I blamed that for the loss after the game.
Drew Brees....MVS Most Valuable Saint! Who Dat!!!
by cajuncommando58 on Jan 13, 2012 11:40 AM CST up reply actions
Cause you know....i've never picked us to win and we actually won.....oh wait. That happened most of the year.
-Lombardi was wrong...it's the internet, not fatigue that makes cowards of us all. But then again, what do you expect. Not like the guy could see the future.
No
I just had to blame something for that
FusterCluck ©
Drew Brees....MVS Most Valuable Saint! Who Dat!!!
by cajuncommando58 on Jan 13, 2012 11:58 AM CST up reply actions
It's Dave's, ask him.
Although I didn’t. Soory about that Dave, but I did give you all the credit and registered it for you.
Drew Brees....MVS Most Valuable Saint! Who Dat!!!
by cajuncommando58 on Jan 13, 2012 12:42 PM CST up reply actions
after all the hell we gave him last week
i am now a believer, forgive me jeff for all the flak i gave you last week. predict away!!
by B_Robichaux31 on Jan 13, 2012 12:43 PM CST up reply actions
Saints 24, Niners 19
1. Jimmy Graham gets 100+ yards
2. Frank Gore held under 80 yards
3. Saints score one rushing td
Saints 30 Niners 19 - total score = 49
1. Pierre Thomas leads the Saints in rushing and has a rushing td!
2. Jabari Greer will have another INT
3. Vernon Davis will have more yards, but not more tds than Graham
Saints 49 - Whiners 24
1. Saints win turnover battle.
2. Brees throws for less than 300
3. Saints out rush Niners
The Saints must repeat so I can watch the Saints win the Superbowl LIVE... Not on vhs two months later....
Saints 31 49ers 22
Brees throws over 300yards 2TD
Saints break 100 rushing yards
Defense holds Frank Gore to 0 TD and less than 100 yards
Bonus: A collective “OH S@!T” will be heard from the 49ers sideline, shortly after the half Niner nation will look more depressed than the LSU sideline
Saints 41 - Whiners 19...
1. By 5 minutes into the 4th qtr, 9er fans will be leaving the stadium faster than the Falcan’ts left the Ga. Dome in last years play off game. 2. Jimmy Graham will have 90 + receiving yards. 3. Sproles will return a punt or kick off to the house
Saints 24 Niners 19
1. Brees throws 3 or less TD’s
2. Saints rush for over 100 yds
3. Saints win turnover battle
Saints 31 - Niners 23
1. Saints trail at halftime.
2. Saints D holds SF running game to no more than 90 yards.
3. Saints running backs account for at least two TD’s.
"I don't suffer from drug addiction. I enjoy it very much."
Saints 31 Niners 12
1) Niners dont score a TD
2) Niners try a special team trick and fail (no 1st down or no possession as a result)
3) Saints out run the Niners
Yes sir we want the ball...
Saints 28, Niners 10
1. The saints will have at least 3 sacks.
2.Saints have at least one rushing Td.
3.Bress throws for over 400 yards.
4. Spoils breaks out for a 100yrd all purpose day.
by Realsaint on Jan 13, 2012 12:05 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Saints 45 Niners 17
1) Sproles scores at least twice
2) no INTs for Brees
3) Graham has > 100 yds receiving
Saints 31 49ers 9
1.Saints have 2 rushing TD’s
2.Saints defense has 3 sacks
3.Graham has 8 catches
bonus-GB gets beat by NYG and we have the NFCCG in the dome
by mississippisaintsfan on Jan 13, 2012 12:06 PM CST reply actions
none of y'all matter.. the only thing that we need here.. is jelly phantom & jeff lb..
to predict catastrophe.. yet again..
(which will de facto guarantee victory..)
we looking at you, fellas.. do not disappoint us..
saints dismantle no-ners.. and hangs 49 on their asses just for the poetical symmetry of it..
by the 9th plague on Jan 13, 2012 12:13 PM CST reply actions
doh..!! sorry bob.. man.. the whole cosmic balance has been altered..
you had already posted, i hope.. therefore the gods have already taken note.. if not.. we’re in deep $h!t..
well, not really.. we still got drew breeeeeeeees..
sorry about that.. i’m gald you stayed the course..
saint = annihilation..
by the 9th plague on Jan 13, 2012 12:21 PM CST up reply actions
A visit from the plague would work, also
I usually try to keep you from such activities, but this week….meh
49ers 26, Saints 24
1. At least twice as many passing attempts than rushing attempts for the Saints.
2. At least two converted FGs for David Akers.
3. At least two sacks and/or a defensive score (safeties included) for Aldon Smith.
Bonus: Saints fall to 0-5 in playoff games played on the road (SB XLIV excluded) and 0-3 in playoff games played west of the Mississippi River.
"I don’t intend to draw any conclusions from any single game." -Brian Burke
"I will now attempt to exclude specific large amounts of TOP from the totals of winning teams, in order to prove that TOP doesn't contribute to winning." -Dr. Jeremy Arkes
We have a trifecta going now...
Drew Brees....MVS Most Valuable Saint! Who Dat!!!
by cajuncommando58 on Jan 13, 2012 12:19 PM CST up reply actions
I honestly feel we have a better shot of beating Green Bay at Lambeau than we have at winning this game. Just hoping we can we clear the hurdle, but I don’t see it.
"I don’t intend to draw any conclusions from any single game." -Brian Burke
"I will now attempt to exclude specific large amounts of TOP from the totals of winning teams, in order to prove that TOP doesn't contribute to winning." -Dr. Jeremy Arkes
Well I'm a known a Homer...
So I can’t believe we can lose until we do!
Drew Brees....MVS Most Valuable Saint! Who Dat!!!
by cajuncommando58 on Jan 13, 2012 12:40 PM CST up reply actions
Weird, I feel almost exactly the opposite. I don’t expect to have any chance at winning at Lambeau. I just want us to get revenge on the 49ers for all those years they abused us, and if the Giants are kind enough to let us host the NFCCG as well, so much the better.
You know, on second thought, that’s not weird at all. I mean, we’re almost complete opposites on just about everything, so it’s not so weird that we’re opposites here as well.
I honestly almost wish the weather was going to be worse,
because you may end up being right about #1.
I feel like one. Just ONE sack fourqbhurriestwotacklesforlosses by Smith. Not sure what I was thinking.
"I don’t intend to draw any conclusions from any single game." -Brian Burke
"I will now attempt to exclude specific large amounts of TOP from the totals of winning teams, in order to prove that TOP doesn't contribute to winning." -Dr. Jeremy Arkes
Well since you guys were so looking forward to jeff picking against us, hopefully you’ll like mine too.
Saints 27, 49ers 34
1) Drew has as many or more sacks+INTs as TDs, throws at least one pick 6 primarily because a receiver slips on the crappy surface.
2) At least one significant injury on BOTH teams from a player who came into the game healthy (i.e. did not spend any time on the injury report in the last three weeks). At least one of these injuries can be directly attributed to the crappy surface or the winds in some fashion (player slips while trying to cut and gets hit at a bad angle, player loses a fair catch to a gust of wind and gets injured in the dogpile going for the muff, something along those lines).
3) Saints drop at least as many INTs as San Fran catches, and win the statistical battle ONLY in total rushing yards given up (not even TOP).
Bonus: NY beats GB and the handwringing about losing our shot at a home NFCCG is immense…
Oh and as usual I desperately want to be wrong. But I am nervous or I wouldn’t be posting predictions at all. And I would love a blowout in our favor. I want that more than any other potential outcome.
But if we can’t have that, what I want second most is for Drew to pull out a last-second victory, thereby putting a stake through the heart of every 49er fan on the planet so they can finally truly understand exactly how we felt every bloody year back in the 80s and early 90s.
How sweet would a last minute Dwight Clark-esque back of the end zone catch by Graham be?
"I don’t intend to draw any conclusions from any single game." -Brian Burke
"I will now attempt to exclude specific large amounts of TOP from the totals of winning teams, in order to prove that TOP doesn't contribute to winning." -Dr. Jeremy Arkes
Terrible…because it would mean I suffered through a close game and potentially losing for 59 minutes. Sweet afterward…sure.
-Lombardi was wrong...it's the internet, not fatigue that makes cowards of us all. But then again, what do you expect. Not like the guy could see the future.
Not at all, Jeff. We were winning by 35 halfway through the fourth. With the help of four fluky onsides kicks, the 49ers scored 36 points in just under 6 minutes, before the Saints finally recovered the fifth and mounted their game winning drive. San Francisco should have never had their brief lead to begin with.
*removes rose-colored glasses to reveal a second pair of rose-colored glasses, a la David Caruso.
"I don’t intend to draw any conclusions from any single game." -Brian Burke
"I will now attempt to exclude specific large amounts of TOP from the totals of winning teams, in order to prove that TOP doesn't contribute to winning." -Dr. Jeremy Arkes
Saints 31, 49ers 23
1. Drew does not turn the ball over.
2. Saints D has at least 3 sacks.
3. Sproles has over 125 all-purpose yards despite SF’s defense being focused on containing him.
Bonus: Saints defense is the difference maker in this game holding SF to 25% in red zone efficiency or less.
Saints 31 - 49ers 22
Saints rush for more yards than SF
Niners attempt at least 4 FGs and miss at least 1
Saints get at least twice as many TDs as 49ers do
Which people claim that their team can defeat our professional football squad?
Saints 31 - 49ers 17
1) Saints and 49ers commit the same # of turnovers
2) Sproles has the largest combined number of yards from scrimmage (not counting returns)
3) Saints running games breaks 120 yds
"We've established the run; we've established the pass. Now all we have to establish is another championship!"
"Some say the glass is half empty;
Some say the glass is half full.
I say- 'are you going to finish that beer'?"
Saints 31 San Fran 28
1. Brees passes for at least 350 yards.
2. The Saints never turn the ball over.
3. Sproles has a 90 plus yards TD.
Oh Man, I want to be in that number; when the SAINTS go marching in. (To Indy) WHODAT
Saints 23 - 49ers 13
1. Saints Defense holds niners to less than 300 yards of offense
2. Saints Defense record 2 or more sacks
3. Saints Defense forces 1 or more turnovers
Bonus: In a post game interview a Saints player gets on camera and says how the defense was overlooked and or disrespected.
"Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups." Bum Phillips
by Saint for life on Jan 13, 2012 12:49 PM CST reply actions
Saints 27 49ers 24
1.The game will go to OT
2.Sproles has more catches than rushing attempts
3.Brees throws for more than 350 yds and 2+tds
Care to make a prediction on how we win by 3 in OT given the new rules? Is it a turnover leading to a Saints FG? Maybe a quick FG and a stop going the other way? I must know!
I think if the other team has a drive and doesn't score then the 3 wins.
A.R. 16.6 FIELD GOAL ON FIRST POSSESSION
Team A kicks a field goal on the opening possession of overtime.
Ruling: Three points for Team A, but the game is not over. Team A must kick off to Team B. If Team B scores a touchdown or does not score the game is over. If Team B scores a field goal the game continues under sudden death.
Drew Brees....MVS Most Valuable Saint! Who Dat!!!
by cajuncommando58 on Jan 13, 2012 1:32 PM CST up reply actions
Under the new rules, does anyone know if a turnover following an opening drive FG would be immediately blown dead, a la a failed 2 pt conversion? Or would the play be allowed to carry out? If the latter, it seems as though there would be no repercussions for attempting to return it, as any strip by the offense would technically be a subsequent possession. This would also mean that an OT game could result in a 9 point victory. Or even a one point victory, if an interception or fumble recovery was lateraled or fumbled out the back of one’s own end zone. Even if the play wasn’t allowed to carry out, a 9 point victory would still be conceivable, if the interception or fumble recovery occurred within the confines of the offense’s end zone, a la the James Allen INT to end the 2002 season opener against the Bucs.
"I don’t intend to draw any conclusions from any single game." -Brian Burke
"I will now attempt to exclude specific large amounts of TOP from the totals of winning teams, in order to prove that TOP doesn't contribute to winning." -Dr. Jeremy Arkes
Man, that would suck. Just think if Meachem’s strip and score happened on the 2nd possession of a playoff OT, following a Redskins FG. It wouldn’t count and Washington would win.
"I don’t intend to draw any conclusions from any single game." -Brian Burke
"I will now attempt to exclude specific large amounts of TOP from the totals of winning teams, in order to prove that TOP doesn't contribute to winning." -Dr. Jeremy Arkes
Check link
A.R. 16.4 MUFFED KICKOFF
Following a successful field goal on the opening possession of overtime, Team A’s kickoff is muffed by B1 at the B35 and is recovered by A2.
Ruling: Game over. Team A wins. Team B had an opportunity to possess the ball.
Drew Brees....MVS Most Valuable Saint! Who Dat!!!
by cajuncommando58 on Jan 13, 2012 1:42 PM CST up reply actions
Of what relevance is that to the question?
"I don’t intend to draw any conclusions from any single game." -Brian Burke
"I will now attempt to exclude specific large amounts of TOP from the totals of winning teams, in order to prove that TOP doesn't contribute to winning." -Dr. Jeremy Arkes
You asked if a turnover on the ensuing kick-off would end the game.
It does.
Drew Brees....MVS Most Valuable Saint! Who Dat!!!
by cajuncommando58 on Jan 13, 2012 1:46 PM CST up reply actions
You asked if a turnover on the ensuing kick-off would end the game.
ORLY? I don’t see how that’s possible, as my question contained neither the word “ensuing” nor “kickoff”.
"I don’t intend to draw any conclusions from any single game." -Brian Burke
"I will now attempt to exclude specific large amounts of TOP from the totals of winning teams, in order to prove that TOP doesn't contribute to winning." -Dr. Jeremy Arkes
The first line of your question.
Under the new rules, does anyone know if a turnover following an opening drive FG would be immediately blown dead, a la a failed 2 pt conversion?
Drew Brees....MVS Most Valuable Saint! Who Dat!!!
by cajuncommando58 on Jan 13, 2012 1:52 PM CST up reply actions
The question is whether it would be immediately be blown dead or allowed to play out. The link doesn’t provide an answer to that question, in regards to scoring. It’s just saying that Team A wins, which is obvious.
"I don’t intend to draw any conclusions from any single game." -Brian Burke
"I will now attempt to exclude specific large amounts of TOP from the totals of winning teams, in order to prove that TOP doesn't contribute to winning." -Dr. Jeremy Arkes
Under what pretense? An interception that occurs on a 2 pt conversion attempt is immediately blown dead. An interception on any other play is allowed to play out. This is a new rule that applies to a situation that has never existed prior. How is it obvious what continuation rule would be tied to it?
"I don’t intend to draw any conclusions from any single game." -Brian Burke
"I will now attempt to exclude specific large amounts of TOP from the totals of winning teams, in order to prove that TOP doesn't contribute to winning." -Dr. Jeremy Arkes
I meant an interception or a fumble recovery by the defense. Even if I was talking about the ensuing kickoffs, a muff isn’t technically considered a turnover, as possession is never established by the receiving team.
"I don’t intend to draw any conclusions from any single game." -Brian Burke
"I will now attempt to exclude specific large amounts of TOP from the totals of winning teams, in order to prove that TOP doesn't contribute to winning." -Dr. Jeremy Arkes
Doesn't matter.
As long as both teams have a chance to possess the ball, any score after wins the game.
Drew Brees....MVS Most Valuable Saint! Who Dat!!!
by cajuncommando58 on Jan 13, 2012 1:55 PM CST up reply actions
Wow. I’m sure glad the question was pertaining to who is awarded the victory and not how subsequent scoring is handled.
"I don’t intend to draw any conclusions from any single game." -Brian Burke
"I will now attempt to exclude specific large amounts of TOP from the totals of winning teams, in order to prove that TOP doesn't contribute to winning." -Dr. Jeremy Arkes
Yes it is.
a muff isn’t technically considered a turnover, as possession is never established by the receiving team.
A.R. 16.4 MUFFED KICKOFF
Following a successful field goal on the opening possession of overtime, Team A’s kickoff is muffed by B1 at the B35 and is recovered by A2.
Ruling: Game over. Team A wins. Team B had an opportunity to possess the ball.
Drew Brees....MVS Most Valuable Saint! Who Dat!!!
by cajuncommando58 on Jan 13, 2012 1:58 PM CST up reply actions
No, it isn’t. A turnover is a change of possession. The rule you’re quoting doesn’t contain the word turnover, does it?
"I don’t intend to draw any conclusions from any single game." -Brian Burke
"I will now attempt to exclude specific large amounts of TOP from the totals of winning teams, in order to prove that TOP doesn't contribute to winning." -Dr. Jeremy Arkes
A muffed kickoff is no more a turnover than a recovered onsides kick is a turnover.
"I don’t intend to draw any conclusions from any single game." -Brian Burke
"I will now attempt to exclude specific large amounts of TOP from the totals of winning teams, in order to prove that TOP doesn't contribute to winning." -Dr. Jeremy Arkes
Once again doesn't matter
Possession: Actual possession of the ball with complete control. The defense gains possession when it catches, intercepts, or recovers a loose ball.
Once both side have a chance to possess the ball first one to score wins.
Drew Brees....MVS Most Valuable Saint! Who Dat!!!
by cajuncommando58 on Jan 13, 2012 2:05 PM CST up reply actions
Jesus Christ
Thanks so much for your insight, Helen Keller.
"I don’t intend to draw any conclusions from any single game." -Brian Burke
"I will now attempt to exclude specific large amounts of TOP from the totals of winning teams, in order to prove that TOP doesn't contribute to winning." -Dr. Jeremy Arkes
You are welcome Charles Manson.
Drew Brees....MVS Most Valuable Saint! Who Dat!!!
by cajuncommando58 on Jan 13, 2012 2:08 PM CST up reply actions
These two remarks
very nearly made coffee come out of my nose I was laughing so hard. Thanks, fellas.
I AM NOT CONCERNED WITH WHO WINS, ONLY WHETHER OR NOT THE PLAY WOULD BE ALLOWED TO CONTINUE PAST THE MOMENT OF RECOVERY.
"I don’t intend to draw any conclusions from any single game." -Brian Burke
"I will now attempt to exclude specific large amounts of TOP from the totals of winning teams, in order to prove that TOP doesn't contribute to winning." -Dr. Jeremy Arkes
If someone had scored then no.
If not then play would continue. Are you being obtuse here or what.
Drew Brees....MVS Most Valuable Saint! Who Dat!!!
by cajuncommando58 on Jan 13, 2012 2:13 PM CST up reply actions
And that still doesn’t cover recoveries in the end zone. Continuation isn’t necessary for additional points to be awarded in such a case.
"I don’t intend to draw any conclusions from any single game." -Brian Burke
"I will now attempt to exclude specific large amounts of TOP from the totals of winning teams, in order to prove that TOP doesn't contribute to winning." -Dr. Jeremy Arkes
I gave you a link to the rules.
If you are still confused look it up for yourself.
Drew Brees....MVS Most Valuable Saint! Who Dat!!!
by cajuncommando58 on Jan 13, 2012 2:19 PM CST up reply actions
The link you provided doesn’t cover: a.) the continuation vs. discontinuation of plays immediately following turnovers. or b.) the handling of scoring on such plays. In short, it had nothing to do with the question being posed.
"I don’t intend to draw any conclusions from any single game." -Brian Burke
"I will now attempt to exclude specific large amounts of TOP from the totals of winning teams, in order to prove that TOP doesn't contribute to winning." -Dr. Jeremy Arkes
I'm fairly sure
the game ends immediately, with no continuation. That’s just my personal interpretation of yet another painfully vague rule though. The NFL and TV networks only begrudgingly let in non-sudden death. I think the idea is to be as fair as one can be while still getting the game over with as fast as humanly possible after the 4th quarter ends.
I'm really starting to believe the mafia
is in charge of football, now. This way, with ambiguous rules, they can make whomever win that makes the most money.
One of my favorites of all time
That Morgan Freeman is fantastic.
I like Hamburgers!
Uh oh...better put an Asterisk on it.
I has yet to see a Freeman movie I didn't like.
Even that silly one he did at a shopping center.
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by cajuncommando58 on Jan 13, 2012 2:27 PM CST up reply actions
Yah! Great movies. RED is awesome!
From what I can tell, though I can’t say I’ve ever checked closely, he is beyond genius level. I think the character he plays in “Bucket List” is pretty close to dead-on… except he’s not a mechanic.
Haven't seen Red yet.
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by cajuncommando58 on Jan 13, 2012 2:30 PM CST up reply actions
Pretty much quit watching Bond movies after they replace Connery
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by cajuncommando58 on Jan 13, 2012 2:35 PM CST up reply actions
They dont have to posses the ball just a chance to posses it
And I think if there was a int. they would let the play finish and if the Defense still has the ball it’s end of game
by mississippisaintsfan on Jan 13, 2012 2:33 PM CST up reply actions
What if the muff recovery occurs in the end zone? Game over, but does the recovering team get six points for that? If so, it’s a nine point win. If it’s outside of the end zone, it wouldn’t matter, as you can’t advance a muff.
"I don’t intend to draw any conclusions from any single game." -Brian Burke
"I will now attempt to exclude specific large amounts of TOP from the totals of winning teams, in order to prove that TOP doesn't contribute to winning." -Dr. Jeremy Arkes
What about an onside kick for the kickoff? Or are you not allowed to do that?
by BlackandGold4ever on Jan 13, 2012 2:01 PM CST up reply actions
Yes, you are. That’s covered under “opportunity to possess”. The game would end, if successfully recovered by the kicking team. That still doesn’t cover whether or not a TD by the kicking team would count.
"I don’t intend to draw any conclusions from any single game." -Brian Burke
"I will now attempt to exclude specific large amounts of TOP from the totals of winning teams, in order to prove that TOP doesn't contribute to winning." -Dr. Jeremy Arkes
Unlike a muff, an onsides kick CAN be advanced by the kicking team, in normal situations.
"I don’t intend to draw any conclusions from any single game." -Brian Burke
"I will now attempt to exclude specific large amounts of TOP from the totals of winning teams, in order to prove that TOP doesn't contribute to winning." -Dr. Jeremy Arkes
A.R. 16.2 ONSIDE KICK
On the opening kickoff of overtime, Team A legally recovers the ball at the A41.
Ruling: A’s ball, first-and-10 on A41. A kickoff is considered an opportunity to possess for the receiving team. Team B is considered to have had an opportunity to possess the ball.
A.R. 16.3 ONSIDE KICK
On the opening kickoff of overtime, Team A attempts an onside kick. A2 legally touches the ball at the A42 but muffs it and it is recovered by B1 at the A43.
Ruling: B’s ball, first-and-10 on A43. Team A is not considered to have had an opportunity to possess the ball.
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by cajuncommando58 on Jan 13, 2012 2:07 PM CST up reply actions
This should be Sean Payton’s strategy if we go to OT in the playoffs.
by BlackandGold4ever on Jan 13, 2012 2:48 PM CST up reply actions
If you had an absolute shutdown defense, it actually wouldn’t be a bad strategy to start OT periods. An onsides kick recovery and you could win the game on a FG. A failed onsides kick recovery and odds are all they’re getting is a FG, so you’d still have a chance to win or push the game to sudden death. Of course, the Saints aren’t anywhere close to having an absolute shutdown defense.
"I don’t intend to draw any conclusions from any single game." -Brian Burke
"I will now attempt to exclude specific large amounts of TOP from the totals of winning teams, in order to prove that TOP doesn't contribute to winning." -Dr. Jeremy Arkes
That or you have a lot of faith in your onside preparation
by BlackandGold4ever on Jan 13, 2012 3:04 PM CST up reply actions
Not sure if there was ever a conclusion to you initial question...
but I would assume the play wouldn’t immediately be whistled dead. I would hope that the team recovering the ball wouldn’t attempt a return, for obvious reasons, but given all the replay shenanigans that would almost certainly happen after a turnover in that situation I really hope the refs can’t just blow the play dead.
I would hope that the team recovering the ball wouldn’t attempt a return, for obvious reasons
I’m assuming you mean the risk of a strip. That wouldn’t matter, if Team B is afforded a single possession.
"I don’t intend to draw any conclusions from any single game." -Brian Burke
"I will now attempt to exclude specific large amounts of TOP from the totals of winning teams, in order to prove that TOP doesn't contribute to winning." -Dr. Jeremy Arkes
It could matter, theoretically, if I’m understanding the situation you’re describing correctly. So let’s say Team A scores on a FG first possession. The on the ensuing possession Team B throws an INT. If they don’t whistle the play dead immediately and the defender, before going down is stripped and then run in for a score, so Team B could win that way. I’m curious now, though, what would happen if Team B forced a second turnover on the play but didn’t score. Would that be game over?
No, Team B couldn’t win that way. Once Team A intercepts the ball, Team B’s one and only possession is over. Even if the play is allowed to continue, the subsequent strip would technically be a second possession. I’m 100% positive that wouldn’t count, if returned for a TD by the offense. What I’m not clear on is whether or not the play would be granted continuation in the first place.
"I don’t intend to draw any conclusions from any single game." -Brian Burke
"I will now attempt to exclude specific large amounts of TOP from the totals of winning teams, in order to prove that TOP doesn't contribute to winning." -Dr. Jeremy Arkes
Go back and look at the play-by-play in the Saints-Redskins game. Meachem’s TD is counted as a one play possession.
"I don’t intend to draw any conclusions from any single game." -Brian Burke
"I will now attempt to exclude specific large amounts of TOP from the totals of winning teams, in order to prove that TOP doesn't contribute to winning." -Dr. Jeremy Arkes
Gotcha, I was operating under the assumption that possession didn’t officially change until the end of the play. However, based on your explanation the play would almost have to be whistled dead. Change in possession = end of game if I understand the new rules correctly.
It seems that way, but it isn’t spelled out. And even if it was, there’s still the rare occurrence of a turnover in a team’s own end zone, where continuation isn’t necessary. For example, if Team A kicks a FG, kicks off, Team B returns to their own 1 yard line. First play, the ball is batted up and caught in the end zone by Team A. 9 point OT win? Same situation, QB is sacked for a safety. 5 point OT win? Same situation, Team B drives 98 yards to Team A’s 1 yard line, then throws an INT. With no continuation, that’s a 3 point OT win. WITH continuation, Team A could conceivably be stripped in their own end zone. Team B could then fall on the loose ball, but they wouldn’t be given credit for the TD, because that would require subsequent possession. Should the loose ball roll out the back or side of the end zone, I would think that would be a 1 point OT win, as a safety doesn’t require (in this case subsequent) possession. There’s a ton of ambiguity here.
"I don’t intend to draw any conclusions from any single game." -Brian Burke
"I will now attempt to exclude specific large amounts of TOP from the totals of winning teams, in order to prove that TOP doesn't contribute to winning." -Dr. Jeremy Arkes
Crap, now I really want some version of this scenario to happen, just to listen to the refs attempt to explain it.
Me too. Especially the Meachem scenario. That game was on the road. Imagine if it was in the Superdome. The crowd is going absolutely ballistic, thinking we just pulled off a miracle OT win. Then, the refs have to step in and explain that Kareem Moore actually sealed the victory with the interception, even though he was technically never tackled, run out of bounds or whistled down. There would no doubt be a riot after that call.
"I don’t intend to draw any conclusions from any single game." -Brian Burke
"I will now attempt to exclude specific large amounts of TOP from the totals of winning teams, in order to prove that TOP doesn't contribute to winning." -Dr. Jeremy Arkes
The big question is whether or not the refs will know all of this when/if it happens. I could see a major firestorm over something like this going the wrong way.
by BlackandGold4ever on Jan 13, 2012 2:49 PM CST up reply actions
Agreed. They have to know it’s a possibility.
"I don’t intend to draw any conclusions from any single game." -Brian Burke
"I will now attempt to exclude specific large amounts of TOP from the totals of winning teams, in order to prove that TOP doesn't contribute to winning." -Dr. Jeremy Arkes
I know, but do you seriously expect that they’ll know all of this? If so, you have a lot more faith in those guys than I do.
by BlackandGold4ever on Jan 13, 2012 2:52 PM CST up reply actions
I would hope that they considered every possible scenario, before they changed the rule. I mean, if average fans on the internet like us can envision stuff like this occurring …
"I don’t intend to draw any conclusions from any single game." -Brian Burke
"I will now attempt to exclude specific large amounts of TOP from the totals of winning teams, in order to prove that TOP doesn't contribute to winning." -Dr. Jeremy Arkes
Let’s just hope this overtime fustercluck © happens at Green Bay.
Oooh, even better, New England.
"Move over Marino, there's a new Brees coming through town!"-Jim Henderson
Actually the best case scenario would be us playing the Vikings and kicking an onside kick to start the OT and kicking a FG to win it.
That or the Vikings getting screwed b/c the officials don’t know exactly how the new rules are supposed to work.
After all, their whining fanbase is responsible for this whole mess.
by BlackandGold4ever on Jan 13, 2012 2:54 PM CST up reply actions
Game would be over...
Otherwise you would just be running up the score.
Drew Brees....MVS Most Valuable Saint! Who Dat!!!
by cajuncommando58 on Jan 13, 2012 2:34 PM CST up reply actions
Running up the score isn’t against the rules.
"I don’t intend to draw any conclusions from any single game." -Brian Burke
"I will now attempt to exclude specific large amounts of TOP from the totals of winning teams, in order to prove that TOP doesn't contribute to winning." -Dr. Jeremy Arkes
Sorry let me fix it.
Otherwise you would just be running up the score.
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by cajuncommando58 on Jan 13, 2012 2:38 PM CST up reply actions
From the defensive team’s perspective, I agree. But you know all athletes aren’t gentlemanly. Especially if there’s no repercussions of being stripped.
"I don’t intend to draw any conclusions from any single game." -Brian Burke
"I will now attempt to exclude specific large amounts of TOP from the totals of winning teams, in order to prove that TOP doesn't contribute to winning." -Dr. Jeremy Arkes
Are you trying to win the TOP battle.
If so, fine. I cede.
Drew Brees....MVS Most Valuable Saint! Who Dat!!!
by cajuncommando58 on Jan 13, 2012 2:44 PM CST up reply actions
Also, a pick six on the last play of regulation by the team that’s leading could also be construed as running up the score. Those plays are granted continuation, however, as the offense could conceivably regain possession and score. That’s not the case on the 2nd possession of OT following a FG on the first.
"I don’t intend to draw any conclusions from any single game." -Brian Burke
"I will now attempt to exclude specific large amounts of TOP from the totals of winning teams, in order to prove that TOP doesn't contribute to winning." -Dr. Jeremy Arkes
Not sure if there was ever a conclusion to you initial question…
Outside of postulation? No, there wasn’t.
"I don’t intend to draw any conclusions from any single game." -Brian Burke
"I will now attempt to exclude specific large amounts of TOP from the totals of winning teams, in order to prove that TOP doesn't contribute to winning." -Dr. Jeremy Arkes
Last try...
A.R. 16.19 SAFETY
Third-and-5 on A7. On the opening possession of overtime, A1 is tackled in his own end zone for a safety.
Ruling: Game over. Team B wins. Both teams have met the minimum requirements for possession
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by cajuncommando58 on Jan 13, 2012 2:23 PM CST up reply actions
What does that have to do with a turnover and/or the continuation of a play involving one?
Also, how did Team B have a possession in that situation? Not that that has anything to do with my initial question.
"I don’t intend to draw any conclusions from any single game." -Brian Burke
"I will now attempt to exclude specific large amounts of TOP from the totals of winning teams, in order to prove that TOP doesn't contribute to winning." -Dr. Jeremy Arkes
A FG win in OT begs the question … do we win on the FG itself (non-opening drive) or on a defensive stop?
"I don’t intend to draw any conclusions from any single game." -Brian Burke
"I will now attempt to exclude specific large amounts of TOP from the totals of winning teams, in order to prove that TOP doesn't contribute to winning." -Dr. Jeremy Arkes
49ers wins the coin toss
they receive the ball,we get a stop on defense then Brees leads us to FG distance with Kasay nailing a FG of less than 40 yds
by saintsbrasil on Jan 13, 2012 2:55 PM CST up reply actions
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
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by Dave Cariello on Jan 13, 2012 11:51 PM CST up reply actions
Saints 34, 49ers 16
1) Brees throws for 300+ yards, 2 TDs and 0 INTs (unless there’s a batted INT.)
2) Sproles has 200+ All- Purpose yards, with a big day on Special Teams.
3) 49ers have more FGs than TDs.
And by the way, just so everybody knows, I am still so sick of all the years the 49ers beat our Saints, I am so fired up for this game and I hope our Saints blow those 49ers out on this one too!!!
Saints 34 49ers 24
1. Saints have more than 30:00 in Time of possession.
2. Saints get 2 turnovers and two sacks.
3. Drew Brees has 40 pass attempts as PT and DS dice and slap chop the 49ers defense
with a “running” game that consists of many short receptions-
Saints 31 - 49ers 17
1. Saints rush for over 100 yards – Pierre Thomas rushes for a TD
2. Brees throws 3 TDs – one each to Graham, Colston, and Sproles
3. Saints defense gets 4 turnovers
FULL FLEDGED HOMERISM: Saints 52, 49ers 27
Yes, ladies and gentlemen, a Fifty-burger.
1. Drew passes for over 425 yds.
2. The Saints defense gets an interception (shocking, I know!)
3. Pierre and Graham combine for over 200 total yds of offense
Bonus: Statisticians on the left coasts heads implode after the game.
"Move over Marino, there's a new Brees coming through town!"-Jim Henderson
If you had made it 52 to 26
We would have had a deck and a half.
Drew Brees....MVS Most Valuable Saint! Who Dat!!!
by cajuncommando58 on Jan 13, 2012 2:30 PM CST up reply actions
Bonus is best, though I like the 50 burger aLOT
I should add a signature. “It’s more fun to be a homer!”
Saints 28 - 49ers 17
1. No Smiths sack Brees
2. Brees throws 400+ yards
3. 49ers win the turnover battle
Bonus: The power goes out at Candlestick park.
Bonus Bonus: Mike Bell is still wearing the wrong cleats.
38-24 Saints
1. Alex Smith throws for over 250 yards but at least one pick
2. Frank Gore held under 100 yards rushing
3. Devery Henderson has a touchdown receptions of over 30 yards
Saints 35 49ers 21
1. No 49er’s recievers over 100 yards
2. 2 or more Saints recievers over 100 yards
3. Saints D gets 2 or more turnovers
Marv Levy, former coach of the Buffalo Bills, when asked prior to one of his Super Bowl defeats if the game was a must win:
"No. World War II was a must win."
Saints 31 49ers 24
1) Graham is Saints leading receiver
2) Drew Brees continues streak of games with a TD
3) 49ers D has more sacks than Saints D
Bonus: This will be a close game that comes down to 4th quarter; 49ers have a chance to tie the game and send it to OT, but Saints D comes up with big play/stop to end their drive. Saints win, but alas I have had too many beers and my fingernails are bitten down to the quick.
I basically have a very similar scenario
With the scores flipped. So, even though only one of us can avoid tears after Saturday, know that I feel your pain. Also, Graham is replaced with Davis.
I’m already chewing my nails, and stocking the fridge with beer.
I’d wish you luck, but that would be beside the point. Hope we both see a great game! I can’t see how this one won’t be close.
"Football combines the two worst things about America: It is violence punctuated by committee meetings" -George Will
by lottwasgangsta on Jan 13, 2012 6:49 PM CST up reply actions
Niners 24 Saints 21
1. Brees is rattled and beaten up a lot throws at least 2 picks
2. Niners have at least 3 sacks
3. Darren Sproles is contained to less than 80 yards (running and receiving only—excluding special teams yards)
Haters gon' hate...
Saints 31 - Nooooooooooooooooobody!!! 17
1) Colston leads all Saints receivers with 100+ yards
2) Drew throws 1+ INT, less than 300 yards, 2 passing TDs
3) Saints D has 1+ turnover
Bonus: Saints lose the toss!
Expect more...you'll get more...and if you don't, start over!
Hehe about the bonus also
GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!
by mjtig on Jan 13, 2012 5:00 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Saints 27 Niners 24
The Trio (Tusk, PT, and Sproles) combine for more than 200 yds rushing
Brees has 2 TDs, but less than 300 yds passing
Saints hold Alex Smith to less than 200 yards passing
Illusions, Michael. Tricks are what whores do for money...and candy.
Oops did not see you predicted this already. On phone, missed it on scroll down
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by mjtig on Jan 13, 2012 4:51 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Damn fat fingers
1. Ivory scores first rushing td vs 9er D
2. P rob takes 1 to the house prime like
3. Devery scores a td of longer than 30 yds
by saints fan in cowboyland! on Jan 13, 2012 4:09 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Predictions
Saints 31 to 49ers 12
1st) Brees will throw for at least 300 yards
2nd) saints will have more rushing yards than the 49ers
3rd) 49ers will not score a touchdown all field goals.
(bouns) saints will have atleast 2 recoveries interceptions or fumbles more than the 49ers.
Also NY will beat greenbay sending NY back to the Superdome for final game. Whodat.
by Whodat28 on Jan 13, 2012 4:33 PM CST via Android app reply actions
Prediction
Gore fumbles twice
Meechum=2 TDs
Henderson=1 TD
Sproles=1 run back for TD (ko or punt)
Saints win by 10 or more
You do realize you are specifying "exact" rather than "at least"?
like “at least 2 TDs”?
Sorry, just checking.
27-24 Saints, Brees gets the ball last and leads them down for the winning fg.
GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!
by mjtig on Jan 13, 2012 4:49 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Saints 26, 49ers 19
1) Chris Ivory scores a rushing TD
2) Frank Gore scores the only TD
3) Brees passes under 350 yards
Saints 31-Niners 16
Niners kick at least two field goals
Saints throw for at least 300 yards
Pierre Thomas has over 100 total yards.
"I have had a perfectly wonderful evening, but this wasn't it." Groucho Marx
Saints 34 Niners 24
1. Brees runs for a first down
2. Total of at least 6 sacks in the game.
3. Colston leads all receivers in yardage (Saints & 49ers.)
"Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first.." - Mark Twain
Good question...
actually, I meant “runs” as in rushes. Does jumping and streching his arms count? I guess we’ll leave it up to Dave to decide LOL
"Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first.." - Mark Twain
Mmmm, maybe I wasn't clear. You do remember the first down he got last week
While called a “run”, it was more like a jump with his arms outstretched with the ball in it over the line.
Saints 28 49ers 25
1) Saints come from behind in second half to win
2) Saints score two fourth quarter TDs
3) Graham has 8+ catches
haven't done this in a while... Saints 24 49ers 20
- Saints trail in 4th quarter
- Colston over 100 yards receiving
- Saints rush for at least 120 yards
"But tonight the Superbowl belongs to the City of New Orleans" - Roger Goodell 2/7/2010
Bonus Prediction
In right around 24 hours, we’ll all be debating or chances in the NFC Championship game.
Saints 31- Niners 15
1. Martez Wilson continues his frantic speed rush and gets Alex Smith 2 times.
2. Darren Sproles has more total yards than Alex Smith has passing yards.
3. Saints hold Frank Gore under 60 yards rushing.
The base paths belonged to me, the runner. The rules gave me the right. I always went into a bag full speed, feet first. I had sharp spikes on my shoes. If the baseman stood where he had no business to be and got hurt, that was his fault. -Ty Cobb
Saints 30 Niners 20
1. Saints 3rd down conversion % is at least 2 times higher than the Niners 3rd down conversion %.
2. Sproles has over 100 yards from scrimmage.
3. PT and Tusk have more rushing yardage than Gore and Hunter.
Saints 38 49ers 17
1. Saints throw for 300+ yards and run for 100+
2. Saints score on a trick play
3. Sproles has 200+ all purpose yards
Saints 38 49ers 24
1) Saints get one defensive or special teams TD.
2) Brees throws for at least 3 TDs, and throws 2 picks or fewer.
3) Gore does not score a TD.
This isn't about rules, it's about manners. Now there's no rule that says that I cant come over here and fart on your entree. But I don't do it. Why? Because it's not good manners.
Saints 34 49ers 24
1. Saints have 350+ passing yards, 0 interceptions.
2. Saints defense holds 49ers to under 350 total yards.
3. Pierre Thomas rushes for over 100 yards.
by carolinian4thesaints on Jan 13, 2012 7:48 PM CST reply actions
SAINTS 31 49ers 10
1) SAINTS rush for more yards than 49ers
2) Payton goes for it on at least one 4th down
3) Alex Smith commits at least two turnovers
Eat, drink, and be merry, for tomorrow we die!
WHO DAT?!
TWO DAT!!
by LA_No1_SaintFan on Jan 13, 2012 8:41 PM CST reply actions
You know, I'm glad you brought that up.
I wish I had thought of it earlier. I would bet he’ll go on fourth every time past, maybe, the Saints 40 yard line (50?). Secret weapon for the playoffs. And a difference maker.
Saints 34 Phoney Niners 19
1.Brees over 300 passing yds.
2.A Saint WR has a TD catch of 30 + yds.
3.Saints D gets at least 1 TO, and at least 3 sacks.
You think you know, and you don't know, and you never, ever, will.-Jim Mora Sr.
I understand ....nothing.-Michael Scott
The Future is Unwritten.-Joe Strummer
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win."-Mahatma Gandhi
Bonus: F.Gore stubs his toe and doesn't finish the game......
You think you know, and you don't know, and you never, ever, will.-Jim Mora Sr.
I understand ....nothing.-Michael Scott
The Future is Unwritten.-Joe Strummer
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win."-Mahatma Gandhi
Saints 35 Niners 19
1) BREEEEESSSSS!!!!! Throws for 300+ yards
2) Saints hold Niners to 270 yards on offense
3) Niners score touchdowns on 40% or fewer of their red zone trips
Mark Ingram-OROY
Cam Jordan-DROY
New Orleans Saints-2012 Super Bowl Champs
TOP IS GAWD!
Niners 24 Saints 17
1.Niners win TO differential
2. Aldon Smith sacks Brees at least once
3. Saints D does not sack Alex Smith once.
And when we win, we want to dominate. We want to take guys out. We want to hurt guys. We want to win. We just want to dominate, hit them in the mouth. - Rathman
Follow @manraj76
I'll take TO and give you TOP (sorry, Manraj7, kinda an inside joke)
There has been more discussion about TOP on this site than you can possibly imagine (I cringe at the chance that I just started it, again).
Saints 34, Niners 23
1. Saints D or special teams gets a score (not a field goal)
2. Gilmore catches a pass
3. Vernon Davis scores for San Fran
Hmmm...
I probably shouldn’t come on this. ;-)
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by Dave Cariello on Aug 24, 2011 10:31 AM PDT
brain fart
2. Michael Higgins catches a pass, NOT Michael Gilmore…
Hmmm...
I probably shouldn’t come on this. ;-)
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by Dave Cariello on Aug 24, 2011 10:31 AM PDT
by Cajun in CA on Jan 13, 2012 11:15 PM CST up reply actions
Saints 45 - Niners 16
1. Saints running backs have more total yards (rushing + receiving) than the Niners running backs do.
2. Two different Saints running backs score a rushing touchdown.
3. Saints win or tie the turnover battle.
Anti-bonus: The one touchdown the Saints give up is a pass by Alex Smith to the receiver that should have been covered by HWSNBN 2.0. :-( Please PRob… I want to be wrong on this one. I honestly do.
PRob is nothing like HWSNBN
He’s in his second year and leads our team in INT.
The base paths belonged to me, the runner. The rules gave me the right. I always went into a bag full speed, feet first. I had sharp spikes on my shoes. If the baseman stood where he had no business to be and got hurt, that was his fault. -Ty Cobb
when the guy that he was supposed to be covering just caught the ball and he’s 10 yards behind him… because he was staring in the backfield… and I’m now watching him chase down the receiver from behind… he most certainly is.
now, I will agree… when he starts 10 yards off the receiver… and backs up another 10 yards to allow the receiver a huge area to catch the ball… that’s not like HWSNBN… he’s invented his one way to give up yards.
Saints by 36.
1. Pierre, Ivory, Sproles, Colston, Graham, Devery and Meachem all have at least 1 TD.
2. Gore has 90 yards or less rushing and is stopped at the line and or stopped behind the line at least 5 times.
3. Saints defense gets at least 4 turnovers.
Lagniappe: The 49’ers come into the game knowing that they’ll win this game with their defense. It turns out that they play their worst defensive game of the season by far. The Saints outplay them both offensively and defensively. The beautiful outdoor weather along with the feel and nice smell of the grass worked out perfectly for the Saints.
along with the feel and nice smell of the grass worked out perfectly for the Saints.
LOL!
"I don’t intend to draw any conclusions from any single game." -Brian Burke
"I will now attempt to exclude specific large amounts of TOP from the totals of winning teams, in order to prove that TOP doesn't contribute to winning." -Dr. Jeremy Arkes
Saints 31-21
Saints Defense at least 3 sacks
Saints do not commit a turnover
Saints win TOP
Brees at least 3 TD passes
Sproles >100 all-purpose yds.
Saints 28, Niners 22
1) David Akers ties playoff record with 5 made FGs.
2) Alex Smith scores lone SF TD on QB sneak.
3) Andy Lee punts at least 6 times.
Every day I’m shufflin’ (with JND).
Having the ball is better than not having the ball. And if you punt,
not only does it mean you don't have the ball anymore—
it means you didn't score, which sucks.
49ers 26 Saints 24
1. 49ers win on a field goal with under a minute left
2. Brees has 300+ yards, but also throws 2 picks
3. 49ers gain over 400 yards on offense
Saints 31 - 13
1. our defense gives up fewer ypc than theirs
2. we go for it on 4th and ?. we convert both
3. we win the take a way battle
bonus = the niner fans come back here showing stats to say we didnt really win regardless of the score
--- I don't miss the alcohol as much as I miss having the built in reason on why I'm nekkid in public.
--- I used to want to be an inspiration to my son. now i just hope to be a dire warning.
--- just two men and a dog making candles
--- I know i'll win my battles though i fear we'll lose the war
--- if you find yourself in a fair fight you failed in planning.
yep
other than grimey and a few others the viking fans were jack-holes. these guys seem to be just condescending cupcakes.
--- I don't miss the alcohol as much as I miss having the built in reason on why I'm nekkid in public.
--- I used to want to be an inspiration to my son. now i just hope to be a dire warning.
--- just two men and a dog making candles
--- I know i'll win my battles though i fear we'll lose the war
--- if you find yourself in a fair fight you failed in planning.
Saints 21 49ers 19
1. Saints trail in the 4th only to have Breesus take the last drive to the house FTW.
2. Drew is thrown off his game and gives up at least one int
3. Saints red zone D limits the effect of Brees being thrown off his game and the 49ers only score 1 TD.
SaInts 27 - 49ers 23
1. 49ers win TOP battle.
2. Saints go for it on at least 1 fourth down.
3. Saints are held to less than 80 yards rushing.
Bonus – post-game handshake turns into fisticuffs between the two coaches after Harbough whines about the saints blitzing on 99% of our defensive plays without Sean calling him during the week to notify him.
Double bonus – Sean clams in post game media conference that he did not know GW would blitz so much, describing it as “completely out of character”.
and Payton whips out a collapsible crutch from his back pocket
while Harbuagh laughs, “HAHAHAHA – just like you Parcells prodigies…bring a crutch to a knife fight!” before gashing Payton with a pigsticker he had in his sock.
Both teams get flagged for “use of a prop” and their respective opponents will get to kickoff from the 35 in their next games (precedent-setting rules enforcement).
Having the ball is better than not having the ball. And if you punt,
not only does it mean you don't have the ball anymore—
it means you didn't score, which sucks.
by Hans Petersen on Jan 14, 2012 9:00 AM CST up reply actions
SAINTS: 41 49ERS: 17
Brees: 300+ yds and 3+tds
Akers: miss a FG
sproles: 100+ combined yds
Saints 35, Niner's 10 (Dave's not here...)
1/Colsten, Graham, Sproles, Thomas, Ivory score
2/Smith intercepted once, fumbles once
3/Only one Morestead kick is returned all game.
"Emancipate yourself from mental slavery, none but ourselves can free our minds" -Bob Marley
by PanheadCatahoula on Jan 14, 2012 9:47 AM CST reply actions
49ers 54, Aints 13
1/ Brees concussion
2/ Alex Smith 4td’s over 9000 yards
3/ Willis 14 tackles, 3 forced fumbles
I'm thinking these predictions might be a LITTLE tongue in cheek...
"But tonight the Superbowl belongs to the City of New Orleans" - Roger Goodell 2/7/2010
this is horrible...
Brees gets a concussion and Willis only has 14 tackles? He must suck
"But tonight the Superbowl belongs to the City of New Orleans" - Roger Goodell 2/7/2010
My apologies to all for my reaction (and I won't say overreaction)
And, thanks to Mcwagner for suggesting a way in which I can vote my despise without causing trouble.
I will add that I’m shocked that no one has flagged the statement.
Hmmm, I guess flags don't show up so strike my last statement
Sigh. Can’t wait until this game is over.
Saints 30, Niners 20
1) Pierre, Sproles, and Ivory score TDs
2) Saints defense forces 2 or more turnovers
3) Saints win by 7+, despite a late meaningless TD by the Niners
I'm sticking to my guns: Saints 34, Niners 24
Saints rushing team gets over 100 yards.
Darren Sproles breaks a long punt return in the second half to break a close game open.
Alex Smith cracks under the pressure in 4th qtr, throws a Pick-6 to Greer/Porter/PRob.

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