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Depression and Hatred


Before I begin this eulogy of a fan post I would like to offer my condolences to every LSU and Saints fan. This might possibly be my lowest point as a football fan. I have tried whatever I can to dull my senses to try to take the pain away. I couldnt even bring myself to watch the other playoff games this weekend and I might not even bother watching the rest of the playoffs. The "what if" scenarios just continually play through my head and I just cannot believe how it all went down. I cant remember a time when I was more depressed as a fan other than in 2005 when the "Saints are leaving" talk was at its peak. I really dont know another way to sum it up other than this was a wasted season for both teams and I blame the stupidity of Les Miles and Gregg Williams as the reasons of why south Louisiana is an extremely depressing place to live in this week.

The game stressed me out from the beginning with outbreak of fumblitis that our offensive players seemed to have caught in the airport on the way to San Fran. I spent most of the game running outside every commercial break to smoke a cigarette to try and calm my nerves. Although the game stressed me to my limits...I never lost confidence that we would end up pulling it out in the end. Well.....that was until we actually got to the end. After I did my victory celebration after the Graham touchdown....my "friend" uttered the words "but there is still time on the clock." My response...."They dont have a big play offense. We will play prevent defense, give them all the underneath passes, and smile as the final seconds fall off the clock and they run out of time" It seems that as soon as I spoke the words, I saw the last thing I ever wanted to see in this situation.....pressure. I dropped to my knees before the ball even left Alex Smith's hands.....I knew we were into man to man and we were f*****. I spent the remainder of the game on my knees talking to myself and trying to come to some logical conclusion of why we blitzed in that situation.....I couldn't.

There is a place and time for everything. You call certain plays in this situation or that situation. There is a such thing as "basic" football strategy and GW went against all of it. Even casual football fans who play Madden know what to do in this exact same situation. You play prevent defense and make them go the length of the field. You will take everything away from them except the short pass. It is an elementary play and even luke warm football fans would know what to do.

But it didn't go that way and here all of us are wondering what the hell happened. I've never liked GW and I think his play calling has always been a liability. Nobody can make me believe that his scheme helped win us a championship. I think our 09 defensive success was a mixture of great plays by individual players led by Darren Sharper and the ball just bouncing the right way. If it was due to his scheme, we wouldn't have exited the playoffs the past two years the way we have. Im glad the GW era is over just as much as I'm glad the Jordan Jefferson era is over at LSU. We have talent on defense if it used the proper way and the players are setup to succeed instead of constantly being in position to fail. I cant help but feel that us fans are left to suffer due to GW's selfishness and stubbornness. I'm still dumbfounded by all of it and the only thing that really brings me comfort is the idea of destroying his defense in the future. Nothing would put a bigger smile on my face.....well except another Super Bowl win.

This FanPost was written by a reader and member of Canal Street Chronicles. It does not necessarily reflect the views of CSC and its staff or editors.

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Our experiences were pretty much the same minus the cigarettes, a piece of durniture I destroyed in my living room, and once upon a time, I thought GW was a good coordinator. I’ve been suspicious all season, and the 49er game confirmed my worst fears. What a waste of a season.

In Breesus' name we play

by Breesus Christ Superstar on Jan 16, 2012 6:45 PM CST reply actions  

If I was at my house when I watched it

I would have holes in the wall and several broken remote controls.

I drained my heart and burn my soul....I trained the core to stop my growth-MM

by AcquiredPanic on Jan 16, 2012 7:58 PM CST up reply actions  

And...

You were remarkably good company considering the circumstances ;)

by snowboard_kat on Jan 16, 2012 9:38 PM CST up reply actions  

You guys seriously....

sigh.

Bring back Aaron Brooks! He's the only one who can save us from the evil that is Drew Brees!!
Dallas’ misery will always be my delight
-TexansDC

by Jon Banks on Jan 16, 2012 11:11 PM CST up reply actions  

???

I drained my heart and burn my soul....I trained the core to stop my growth-MM

by AcquiredPanic on Jan 17, 2012 1:53 AM CST up reply actions  

Just really angry at myself right now.

sigh.

Bring back Aaron Brooks! He's the only one who can save us from the evil that is Drew Brees!!
Dallas’ misery will always be my delight
-TexansDC

by Jon Banks on Jan 17, 2012 9:39 AM CST up reply actions  

Hello...what's all this then?

Bring back Aaron Brooks! He's the only one who can save us from the evil that is Drew Brees!!
Dallas’ misery will always be my delight
-TexansDC

by Jon Banks on Jan 16, 2012 11:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Restraint?

I drained my heart and burn my soul....I trained the core to stop my growth-MM

by AcquiredPanic on Jan 17, 2012 1:55 AM CST up reply actions  

Figured you would have learned that during the Vegas escapade.

-Lombardi was wrong...it's the internet, not fatigue that makes cowards of us all. But then again, what do you expect. Not like the guy could see the future.

by jeff.l.b on Jan 17, 2012 4:54 PM CST up reply actions  

It's the "mostly" that gets ya every time.

-Lombardi was wrong...it's the internet, not fatigue that makes cowards of us all. But then again, what do you expect. Not like the guy could see the future.

by jeff.l.b on Jan 18, 2012 10:24 AM CST up reply actions  

Sigh, what ever happened to the sweet innocent, Kat? So sad when the Belles of the Ball get swept away.

-Lombardi was wrong...it's the internet, not fatigue that makes cowards of us all. But then again, what do you expect. Not like the guy could see the future.

by jeff.l.b on Jan 18, 2012 11:31 AM CST up reply actions  

Balls of the Belle? I have that DVD.

This isn't about rules, it's about manners. Now there's no rule that says that I cant come over here and fart on your entree. But I don't do it. Why? Because it's not good manners.

by Doc Boudin on Jan 19, 2012 6:06 PM CST up reply actions  

It could have been much worse

You were lucky I didn’t jump out the window.

I drained my heart and burn my soul....I trained the core to stop my growth-MM

by AcquiredPanic on Jan 17, 2012 1:52 AM CST up reply actions  

I still haven’t fixed the one in my door from Seattle. Hammer punched a dent into it on that Seahawks TD pass where Harper got clowned by Carlson on the fall down move.

by Drunkamania on Jan 16, 2012 9:40 PM CST up reply actions  

Lofty hate.

trapped in grammar and calendars.

by Jay Preece on Jan 16, 2012 9:48 PM CST up reply actions  

You were right all along Kat.

In Breesus' name we play

by Breesus Christ Superstar on Jan 16, 2012 10:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Was sure where the best place to be my first post after that bull****. I guess, here's as good as any...

What the f*** was that?

I’m still stunned. I’m still under a sports media blackout, except to know who won the other games.

Wow… What to say…

Now I know how the Steelers fans must feel after the horrible defensive call in OT… except we had TWO chances to win it in regulation.

I could go on an on about the things I’m pissed about but, I’ll leave it alone for now… except the helmet-to-helmet on PT that wasn’t called.

How’s PT doing?

by Dan Kelly on Jan 17, 2012 12:10 AM CST reply actions  

That PT hit and the way they got to mug our receivers affected the outcome of this game as much as play calling.

by BlackandGold4ever on Jan 17, 2012 7:10 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, I left out the three blatant pass interference penalties that were not called.

by Dan Kelly on Jan 17, 2012 10:21 AM CST up reply actions  

Including one on the second INT. I never knew you were allowed to use the WR to balance yourself with your hand and make an INT…it was clear as day on the replay.

by BlackandGold4ever on Jan 17, 2012 10:52 AM CST up reply actions  

I’m so disgusted/depressed.
I haven’t been able to watch football either.
I wasn’t even going to log on to CSC until next season, but I have no where else to go.
Despite the pain, it’s been helpful to vent.

In Breesus' name we play

by Breesus Christ Superstar on Jan 17, 2012 8:12 AM CST up reply actions  

was a legal hit

The game isn't played in your mind's eye. Stop telling me what you don't "see."

by whistlingmountain on Jan 20, 2012 10:13 AM CST up reply actions  

Agreed 100% legal.

-Lombardi was wrong...it's the internet, not fatigue that makes cowards of us all. But then again, what do you expect. Not like the guy could see the future.

by jeff.l.b on Jan 20, 2012 10:55 AM CST up reply actions  

I wish hits of everything were 100% legal

I drained my heart and burn my soul....I trained the core to stop my growth-MM

by AcquiredPanic on Jan 20, 2012 11:10 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Boom, rec’d!

Mark Ingram-OROY
Cam Jordan-DROY
New Orleans Saints-2012 Super Bowl Champs
TOP IS GAWD!

by Alex Swift on Jan 22, 2012 8:25 AM CST up reply actions  

Yup, 100% legal.

Helmet to helmet hits are legal in the open field against someone who has become a runner. AKA no longer in a defenseless position and has made a football move while in possession of the ball. It’s legal.

It’s only illegal against a defenseless receiver who has just caught the ball yada yada yada. Yes it’s inconsistant and they’ve already said they’ll look at potentially changing the rule in the future…however, currently as it stands the hit against Pierre was in the rules.

-Lombardi was wrong...it's the internet, not fatigue that makes cowards of us all. But then again, what do you expect. Not like the guy could see the future.

by jeff.l.b on Jan 20, 2012 11:47 AM CST up reply actions  

UNNECESSARY ROUGHNESS

(as defined by the NFL Rules Committee)

Article 8 There shall be no unnecessary roughness. This shall include, but will not be limited to:

(g) If a player uses any part of his helmet (including the top/crown and forehead/"hairline" parts) or facemask to butt, spear, or ram an opponent violently or unnecessarily.

Note: If in doubt about a roughness call or potentially dangerous tactics, the covering official(s) should always call unnecessary roughness.

by Dan Kelly on Jan 20, 2012 12:52 PM CST up reply actions  

I didn't see anything that made the hit illegal

Thomas clearly made the catch and turned to run. The defenseless receiver rule would be the rule to be invoked in this case and by that rule it was legal.

The key word in the unnecessary roughness rule you posted is Unneccesarily. Since Thomas was a runner and fighting for the end zone….i imagine the hit was indeed necessary. I always gauge these situations by if I would be pissed off if our player gave a similar hit and in this case I would be completely ok with our players hitting an opposing player in the same way.

I drained my heart and burn my soul....I trained the core to stop my growth-MM

by AcquiredPanic on Jan 20, 2012 1:06 PM CST up reply actions  

nothing illegal.. just the luckiest hit ever..

look at pierre’s positioning of the head.. it is lowered down but he is showing him the left shoulder.. textbook ramming posture with the legs a little bent to lower his COG.. both arms on the ball for security..
typically a defensive player will attack the legs here.. there is where your best shot of stopping the momentum of the ball-carrier..
the safety chooses to stay high creating the contact to the head, perhaps luckily not seeing pierre’s lower posture or purposely gambling that a head-to-head hit would not knock him unconscious allowing the TD anyway..
i think he was just lucky.. 9 out of 10 times pierre would spin out of that for a TD..

by the 9th plague on Jan 21, 2012 12:00 PM CST up reply actions  

as a final thought..

this is nothing more than the old “oklahoma drill” that i’m sure everyone’s heard of..
pierre plays it true to the essence.. lowers his shoulder & whoever has the best leverage, wins..
the other guy does not do the same.. stays higher not showing shoulder.. not attacking the mid section or legs but hitting (either luckily or purposely) with the eyebrow of the helmet, catching pierre’s ear-hole.. also notice the “paddy-cake” position of the hands.. if you did that in OK-drills you would be running 10 laps..
the good news he’s coming back to nola later this year..

by the 9th plague on Jan 21, 2012 12:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Said this to a friend of mine

If Pierre was a little bit lower or the guy a little bit higher, Pierre is running right through him and it’s a TD.

by Saintsfan75 on Jan 21, 2012 11:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Just because you read BS on CBSSports.com, doesn’t make it true. ;-)

by Dan Kelly on Jan 20, 2012 12:53 PM CST up reply actions  

"It is a foul if a player initiates unnecessary contact against a player who is in a defenseless posture.
(a) Players in a defenseless posture are: [. . .]
(2) A receiver attempting to catch a pass; or who has completed a catch and has not had time to protect himself or has not clearly become a runner. If the receiver/runner is capable of avoiding or warding off the impending contact of an opponent, he is no longer a defenseless player;
[. . .]
(b) Prohibited contact against a player who is in a defenseless posture is:
(1) Forcibly hitting the defenseless player’s head or neck area with the helmet, facemask, forearm, or shoulder, regardless of whether the defensive player also uses his arms to tackle the defenseless player by encircling or grasping him; and
(2) Lowering the head and making forcible contact with the top/crown or forehead/"hairline" parts of the helmet against any part of the defenseless player’s body."

As you can see…they wrapped the new rule addendum all around a defenseless player. By the rule…Thomas was in no way a defenseless receiver at that point, nor was the contact unneccesary…hence legal. And I do not read CBSSports.com thank you very much.

-Lombardi was wrong...it's the internet, not fatigue that makes cowards of us all. But then again, what do you expect. Not like the guy could see the future.

by jeff.l.b on Jan 20, 2012 1:13 PM CST up reply actions  

I'd paste my reply above again, but that would seem reduntant.

And, I’m not saying he was defenseless.

In case you missed it, here’s the condensed version:

UNNECESSARY ROUGHNESS = If a player uses any part of his helmet to spear an opponent violently.

And, the icing on the cake…

If in doubt about a roughness call or potentially dangerous tactics, the covering official(s) should always call unnecessary roughness.

by Dan Kelly on Jan 20, 2012 1:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Here's the play

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20JJng66SqI
He didn’t spear him. Thomas lowered his helmet and they collided with each other. Thomas was already running low to the ground…..I really don’t know how else Whitner was supposed to tackle him.

I drained my heart and burn my soul....I trained the core to stop my growth-MM

by AcquiredPanic on Jan 20, 2012 1:46 PM CST up reply actions  

You're conveniently leaving off a part of the rule...where it clearly states "unnecessarily" to try and make your argument. And he in no way speared him.

-Lombardi was wrong...it's the internet, not fatigue that makes cowards of us all. But then again, what do you expect. Not like the guy could see the future.

by jeff.l.b on Jan 20, 2012 1:59 PM CST up reply actions  

I didn't leave anything out... did you miss it in the first quote?

AND…..

" violently or unnecessarily"

“OR”

This OR that…. It only has to be one OR the other.

by Dan Kelly on Jan 20, 2012 3:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Think you’re misinterpreting the “spear” comment. As AP said..there was never any intention to spear what so ever. No offense…think you’re just being sour because it was our team. It was a legal hit.

-Lombardi was wrong...it's the internet, not fatigue that makes cowards of us all. But then again, what do you expect. Not like the guy could see the future.

by jeff.l.b on Jan 20, 2012 3:19 PM CST up reply actions  

agree to disagree…

if it’s legal, it shouldn’t be in the future…

ANY helmet-to-helmet hit is a HUGE safety issue.

by Dan Kelly on Jan 20, 2012 3:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Legal hit

From what I hear from listening to NFL network day in and day out (Pat Kirwan, Rich Gannon, Ross Tucker, Derrick Brooks,etc) there was nothing illegal about that hit. When you consider the very nature of a RB trying to game extra yards, some tend to lower their bodies and barrel ahead (i.e. Frank Gore, Sproles, etc). There is nothing defenseless about that act.

I like Hamburgers!
Uh oh...better put an Asterisk on it.

by Grumps on Jan 20, 2012 3:37 PM CST up reply actions  

“I’m not saying he was defenseless.” – dK (see above)

My point has nothing to with him being defenseless.

I guess I’m being too literal with the rules… either that or I’m also taking the spirit of the rule too seriously… I guess it’s both. Hmm….

by Dan Kelly on Jan 20, 2012 3:57 PM CST up reply actions  

I appreciate that.

I also appreciate that hits like that are going to lead to potential head injuries. However, I think that if you make that a penalty, RB’s are going to have to change the way they run either that or any defensive player is going to be hesitant to try to hit/tackle an RB for fear of trying to guage helmet height and getting a penalty.

I like Hamburgers!
Uh oh...better put an Asterisk on it.

by Grumps on Jan 20, 2012 4:25 PM CST up reply actions  

You have to remember that rule was altered. I posted the change to the rule where they went on to clarify more of the context of it.

-Lombardi was wrong...it's the internet, not fatigue that makes cowards of us all. But then again, what do you expect. Not like the guy could see the future.

by jeff.l.b on Jan 20, 2012 4:39 PM CST up reply actions  

It also doesn’t say anything about it being limited to defensive players. Even under the most liberal of interpretations, both players would be flagged for unnecessary roughness, thereby negating the reception.

"I don’t intend to draw any conclusions from any single game." -Brian Burke
"I will now attempt to exclude specific large amounts of TOP from the totals of winning teams, in order to prove that TOP doesn't contribute to winning." -Dr. Jeremy Arkes

by coldpizza on Jan 21, 2012 3:38 AM CST up reply actions  

I think a rule change needs to be made

If a player fumbles the ball on a helmet to helmet hit, the defense should not be allowed to gain possesion of the ball. Think about it. Even if they would have flagged SF for that hit and let them keep the ball, then they would only have been backed up half the distance to the goal, which is only a loss of a miniscule amount of yards, but prevented 7 points.

SP: "No, No, No. I said 'Let's all take it to the Vikes again' not' Let's all take 2 Vicoden!'"

by Comp on Jan 24, 2012 6:01 AM CST up reply actions  

I think that’s the only way they can avoid making any helmet-to-helmet hit a penalty yet still manage to “strongly discourage” them.

Not sure it will fly with anybody in the NFL management tho.

by FriarBob on Jan 24, 2012 8:31 PM CST up reply actions  

The hit came prior to the fumble. Had SF been flagged, the Saints would have automatically retained possession and the penalty would be half the distance from the hit.

The penalty has to be called on the field, though. You can’t assess a penalty by virtue of a review. There was a similar such case in the 2008 game against the Vikings, if you recall. The Vikings defender grabbed Reggie Bush’s face mask, causing him to fumble. The fumble itself was reviewed, as it wasn’t apparent whether or not he was down by contact before the ball came free. He wasn’t down and the fumble stood, despite the facemask obviously being the impetus which caused it. At that point, it doesn’t matter. Same goes for a helmet to helmet hit.

"I don’t intend to draw any conclusions from any single game." -Brian Burke
"I will now attempt to exclude specific large amounts of TOP from the totals of winning teams, in order to prove that TOP doesn't contribute to winning." -Dr. Jeremy Arkes

by coldpizza on Jan 25, 2012 8:47 AM CST up reply actions  

It took a few seconds for the muscles to relax = fumble after the hit

I’m just saying, if you hit someone hard enough to give them a concussion, they probably ain’t holding on to the ball very long….
If that is the case, the defense should not be allowed to gain possession or at least the offense cannot lose possesion if a hit causes a concussion. I would say the same for a H2H hit on a QB. It would not apply on other hits that were not direct H2H hits (unless someone was trying to pile drive someone!)

SP: "No, No, No. I said 'Let's all take it to the Vikes again' not' Let's all take 2 Vicoden!'"

by Comp on Jan 25, 2012 11:48 AM CST up reply actions  

Had SF been flagged, the Saints would have automatically retained possession and the penalty would be half the distance from the hit.

Yeah, but they couldn’t be, he was a runner not a “defenseless receiver” by that point.

Frankly, I think they DO need to change things, but you can’t eliminate the hits entirely. You do, however, have to make sure you can’t profit from the hit. Making it that a head-to-head hit prevents a fumble would be a good step.

by FriarBob on Jan 25, 2012 2:16 PM CST up reply actions  

One day, when I’m totally demented (as opposed to only partially, presently), I’ll be wandering the halls of my nursing home screaming at an imaginary television:
“GRAHAM!!! Run you big SOB! GO, GOOOOO! TOUCHDOWN! OH MY GOD! [dancing maniacally] THAT’S RIGHT YOU MUTHER EFFERS! He’s DREW EFFING BREES. YOU CAN’T STOP HIM. BALLGAME! Ok, now. They have a long way to go, just don’t do anything stupid… WHAT THE EFF!! WHY?!! WHY DID YOU BLITZ!!! EFFING MAN COVERAGE?!!! OK, Ok they’ll kick and Drew will still win in overtime. Just don’t let them…AREYOUS***ING ME?!!! ALEX EFFING SMITH?!!! NOOOOOO!”
Orderlies will be having to restrain me.

In Breesus' name we play

by Breesus Christ Superstar on Jan 17, 2012 9:09 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

Best laugh I have had this week

I think I have to Rec both.

I drained my heart and burn my soul....I trained the core to stop my growth-MM

by AcquiredPanic on Jan 17, 2012 11:11 AM CST up reply actions  

Rec 'dis!

Thanks, ME. A lot of us needed this right now.

Every day I'm shufflin'!

by Just 'Nother Day on Jan 17, 2012 2:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Rec for Guantanamo ref, oh boy

You think you know, and you don't know, and you never, ever, will.-Jim Mora Sr.
I understand ....nothing.-Michael Scott
The Future is Unwritten.-Joe Strummer
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win."-Mahatma Gandhi

by metryman on Jan 17, 2012 11:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Thanks,

my boss is looking at me now.

Bring back Aaron Brooks! He's the only one who can save us from the evil that is Drew Brees!!
Dallas’ misery will always be my delight
-TexansDC

by Jon Banks on Jan 18, 2012 10:35 AM CST up reply actions  

3 weeks of numb.. finally sumthin to laugh about.. thanx

You know Hartman, goodie-two-shoes is fidgeting around like a one-legged cat trying to bury s#!t on a frozen pond, until old Seth fixes him a couple of pink poontang specials. You know, that crazy drink that I fix for stewardesses? Two shots out of that and Hartman is shot to s#!t, freaked out. I mean, I never saw a guy having so much fun and crying at the same time!

by Deep Threat on Jan 31, 2012 1:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Ok... So here's another one...

Question for GW (who I’m not sad about seeing him leave): WHAT THE F*** WAS THAT?!?!?

THREE TIMES in the last 5 minutes of the game you “let their best player beat us”!!!???

Were you in that big of a hurry to get to St Louis, that you couldn’t just win the effing game, and then start packing?!

You could have been the savior… after a horrible beginning & middle for the offense and special teams, you had a chance to win in.

THEY WERE WASTING TIME… THEY WERE PISSING AWAY THEIR OPPORTUNITY, AND YOU JUST HANDED THEM THE GAME!

(It’s not all your fault… It’s extremely rare that a team with 5 offensive turnovers and only 1 on defense wins a game. I’m pissed at the fumbles and interceptions. But, c’mon man!! Two more plays and we would have had them!!)

by Dan Kelly on Jan 17, 2012 10:29 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

It was rediculous then, even more horrendous now, and it will be scarred in my mind for years.

It just seemed like such an easy play call…..bleed the clock. We didn’t need a sack or a turnover. It made absolutely no sense to bring pressure. I really believe “strategy” had nothing to do with it and he just wanted to live up to his reputation and deliver a kill shot. Rather selfish in my opinion….

I drained my heart and burn my soul....I trained the core to stop my growth-MM

by AcquiredPanic on Jan 17, 2012 11:19 AM CST up reply actions  

It just seemed like such an easy play call…..bleed the clock.

So, what you’re saying is greater TOP may have spelled the difference between winning and losing. Got it.

"I don’t intend to draw any conclusions from any single game." -Brian Burke
"I will now attempt to exclude specific large amounts of TOP from the totals of winning teams, in order to prove that TOP doesn't contribute to winning." -Dr. Jeremy Arkes

by coldpizza on Jan 17, 2012 1:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Kill me....quickly ; )

I drained my heart and burn my soul....I trained the core to stop my growth-MM

by AcquiredPanic on Jan 17, 2012 2:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Too late. I see a long, drawn-out suffocation under hundreds of TOP posts.

Easy enough to handle when we’re winning, but my heart’s just not in it right now.

by Ship on Jan 17, 2012 4:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Not necessarily. No matter how much time they had taken, they could have scored as time expired, to either win or force OT. OT being more likely, as Harbaugh wouldn’t go for the win in that situation. Could still happen on a bobbled snap and placement, followed by an abort/desperation heave into the end zone by the holder.

"I don’t intend to draw any conclusions from any single game." -Brian Burke
"I will now attempt to exclude specific large amounts of TOP from the totals of winning teams, in order to prove that TOP doesn't contribute to winning." -Dr. Jeremy Arkes

by coldpizza on Jan 17, 2012 4:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Which results in greater TOP, whether the time is deemed critical or not. No need to separate the two, Bubba,

"I don’t intend to draw any conclusions from any single game." -Brian Burke
"I will now attempt to exclude specific large amounts of TOP from the totals of winning teams, in order to prove that TOP doesn't contribute to winning." -Dr. Jeremy Arkes

by coldpizza on Jan 17, 2012 5:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Just please, No Eff-N Harbaugh SB !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You think you know, and you don't know, and you never, ever, will.-Jim Mora Sr.
I understand ....nothing.-Michael Scott
The Future is Unwritten.-Joe Strummer
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win."-Mahatma Gandhi

by metryman on Jan 17, 2012 11:41 PM CST reply actions  

I wouldn’t mind that so much. No real love for any of the four remaining teams, but the Pats and Giants are definitely scraping the bottom of the barrel, in terms of my order of preference. Pretty sure all four still rank in my bottom ten. The 49ers would be the only one with a shot of not being. Been a while since I ranked all 32.

"I don’t intend to draw any conclusions from any single game." -Brian Burke
"I will now attempt to exclude specific large amounts of TOP from the totals of winning teams, in order to prove that TOP doesn't contribute to winning." -Dr. Jeremy Arkes

by coldpizza on Jan 18, 2012 1:06 AM CST up reply actions  

49ers/Pats would make for the most entertaining Super Bowl most likely. Clash of opposing styles etc. Don’t see how anyone could get up for the Harbaugh bowl except the Harbaughs…a 9-6 score fest isn’t always the most enjoyable game to watch…and I for won enjoy a good defensive game.

-Lombardi was wrong...it's the internet, not fatigue that makes cowards of us all. But then again, what do you expect. Not like the guy could see the future.

by jeff.l.b on Jan 18, 2012 10:18 AM CST up reply actions  

won = one …obviously.

-Lombardi was wrong...it's the internet, not fatigue that makes cowards of us all. But then again, what do you expect. Not like the guy could see the future.

by jeff.l.b on Jan 18, 2012 10:18 AM CST up reply actions  

Agreed, I just don’t want to see Brady holding another Lombardi. Maybe I could watch it cautiously, like a midget in a wading pool.

"I don’t intend to draw any conclusions from any single game." -Brian Burke
"I will now attempt to exclude specific large amounts of TOP from the totals of winning teams, in order to prove that TOP doesn't contribute to winning." -Dr. Jeremy Arkes

by coldpizza on Jan 19, 2012 1:30 AM CST up reply actions  

I can understand that…though I’ve never been a Brady hater. Guy is good…EXTREMELY good. We have the potential to be watching 3 of the best 10-20 QBs in history with Brady, Brees and Manning when all is said and done…that’s impressive.

-Lombardi was wrong...it's the internet, not fatigue that makes cowards of us all. But then again, what do you expect. Not like the guy could see the future.

by jeff.l.b on Jan 19, 2012 10:23 AM CST up reply actions  

I’m not a Brady hater, either. When I have little rooting interest otherwise, I simply prefer to see the teams that haven’t been to a Super Bowl — in this case recently, since all four have been prior — get their moment of glory. The Patriots and Giants were both there just four years ago. If, for example, the 49ers and Falcons were playing for the NFCCG, I’d be pulling for the Falcons, even though I like them slightly less than the 49ers. They’re both in my bottom ten or so. Just not enough of a preference not to pull for the fan base that has yet to experience winning a Lombardi.

"I don’t intend to draw any conclusions from any single game." -Brian Burke
"I will now attempt to exclude specific large amounts of TOP from the totals of winning teams, in order to prove that TOP doesn't contribute to winning." -Dr. Jeremy Arkes

by coldpizza on Jan 21, 2012 3:49 AM CST up reply actions  

a 9-6 score snore fest

FIFY

Mark Ingram-OROY
Cam Jordan-DROY
New Orleans Saints-2012 Super Bowl Champs
TOP IS GAWD!

by Alex Swift on Jan 19, 2012 7:31 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I would love to watch a Super Bowl that competitive. It truly doesn’t matter if the score’s 35-32 or 9-6.

"I don’t intend to draw any conclusions from any single game." -Brian Burke
"I will now attempt to exclude specific large amounts of TOP from the totals of winning teams, in order to prove that TOP doesn't contribute to winning." -Dr. Jeremy Arkes

by coldpizza on Jan 21, 2012 3:51 AM CST up reply actions  

My feelings exactly. I'm glad you wrote this

I was thinking and feeling the same way. I half heartedly watched half the Broncos game and then no more NFL for the whole weekend. This loss hurt and my desire to watch any of the remaining teams is basically NIL. I might watch the superbowl if the Giants make it, they are the team that I hate the least, or at least the only team I don’t have dislike for. I haven’t even had the stomach to turn on the talking heads on the radio either. Long silent car rides to work. I guess this is what they call “Shell Shocked”.
Almost like finding out there ain’t no Santa Claus.

SP: "No, No, No. I said 'Let's all take it to the Vikes again' not' Let's all take 2 Vicoden!'"

by Comp on Jan 18, 2012 11:45 AM CST reply actions  

Not only did we lose and our season ended.

But apparently the Saints loss ushered in the emergence of winter for my lovely city. It had been so balmy before that. I guess it figured since my cheering was over it may as well kick my butt in another way.

For what it is worth, it is the equivalent of -45 celsius today or -49 Farenhiet for you yanks. Take solace in that you have it a little better than me.

I like Hamburgers!
Uh oh...better put an Asterisk on it.

by Grumps on Jan 19, 2012 10:26 AM CST reply actions  

ahhh, but it's a dry cold.

Drew Brees....MVS Most Valuable Saint! Who Dat!!!

by cajuncommando58 on Jan 22, 2012 8:57 AM CST up reply actions  

but it's a yip type of cold

When you walk out, you say YIP as your testes draw up into your belly

by Saintsfan75 on Jan 23, 2012 4:55 AM CST up reply actions  

I understand, wholly, your frustration Mr. Panic...

the only thing worse than witnessing this happen on television, is witnessing it live in person for your first Saints game, ever. The salt in the wound, were the four douchebags (The only thing) between me and the Saints’ sidelines who spent, literally, the entire game, heckling John Kasay, and Thomas Morstead as they were practicing kicks. “Kasay! You’re so fat, no wonder you suck now!” They’d yell. “Choke!” They’d yell, sometimes, just yelling. (Trying to force a kicker to choke on a practice kick, is quite possibly the most retarded thing I’ve ever witnessed another human being do) “Face mask!” She’d say, on a tackle that clearly had no facemask contact. “Flag!” On every single Saints’ defending play. Every play. “Drew Brees! You suck!” That one made me laugh. He sucks? Really? So, you know what football is, and you still think that Drew Brees sucks. Hmmmnnnn. I don’t even need to argue that one. The funniest was when they started calling our 300+ lb players p****ies. That guy is physically twice your gross weight, and CAN out run you. 49ers fans, in Candlestick, left such a horribly bad taste in my mouth, I will never, ever visit that stadium again. Other dis-honorable mentions: thirty or forty people screamed at me, “f**** the Saints!” while I was minding my own business. One guy specifically got my attention and said to me, “I’ve got a message for you….F**** the Saints!” My reply? “I’m not hating, should be a good game.” His reply? “F**** the Saints!” Getting into and out of the stadium is nearly impossible. I enjoy competitive banter. I don’t enjoy my wife and I being harrassed. There was one, yes one, single decent 49ers fan near us. He realized how awkward our experience was, and told us, “You can root for your team. We’re not gonna’ mess with you like Raiders fans.” He was wrong, but I appreciated his sentiment. The only redeeming factor was that I was second row, which was very exciting. The last minutes were really exciting to see live.
Side note: It was so sweet seeing The Giants beat the 49ers one week later, in that same stadium, knowing how horrible those people felt made my heart shine with brilliant revenge!

"Who are we? We find that we live on an insignificant planet of a humdrum star lost in a galaxy tucked away in some forgotten corner of a universe in which there are far more galaxies than people. " -Carl Sagan

by crescendo2020 on Jan 29, 2012 2:31 AM CST reply actions   2 recs

good stuff.. hang in there..

we may have our “revenge” rematch in next season’s playoffs (hopefully in the dome) & you will just have to make plans to be here..

by the 9th plague on Jan 29, 2012 11:50 AM CST up reply actions  

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