Saints Hire Steve Spagnuolo as Defensive Coordinator
by Dave Cariello on Jan 19, 2012 5:18 PM CST
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PrintLadies and gentlemen, meet your new defensive coordinator!
The Saints have reportedly signed former Rams head coach Steve Spagnuolo to be their new defensive coordinator, replacing Gregg Williams.
Jay Glazer, of course, appears to be the first person to break the news via Twitter:
Steve Spagnuolo has agreed to join the New Orleans Saints as new defensive coordinator
Gotta say, I love the move. Spags was probably the best and most qualified defensive coordinator left on the market so it's good to see the Saints land him. He's traditionally run a 4-3 defense so we shouldn't expect many big changes to this defense in the way of scheme.
Jonathan Vilma also likes the move:
I think it's official, Steve spagnoulo is r new defensive coordinator. I look forward to winning with him
How are you guys feeling about this? Like it? Love it? Want some more of it? It's time to Spags out!!!!
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"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!
by David "Satch" Kelly on Jan 19, 2012 5:19 PM CST reply actions
I guess this might be the one positive thing
That came from getting bounced from the playoffs. I doubt he would have been available otherwise.
I drained my heart and burn my soul....I trained the core to stop my growth-MM
Agreed!
"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!
by David "Satch" Kelly on Jan 19, 2012 5:31 PM CST up reply actions
maybe gdub would not have been either
"As a Saint fan I watch ‘Gone with the Wind’ just to watch Atlanta burn" -Ralph Malbrough
by DrewBreesManCrush on Jan 19, 2012 5:49 PM CST up reply actions
Spags had one of the best Ds consistently, up in NY.
I love it.
The base paths belonged to me, the runner. The rules gave me the right. I always went into a bag full speed, feet first. I had sharp spikes on my shoes. If the baseman stood where he had no business to be and got hurt, that was his fault. -Ty Cobb
Now we'll have to learn to spell his name correctly
I think your “n” is in the wrong place, Dave. :)
I like saintfever09’s suggestion of spagNOLA
"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!
by David "Satch" Kelly on Jan 19, 2012 5:23 PM CST reply actions
Shame...i already asked dave on the ask dave post out to pronounce it based on his spelling of this article.
-Lombardi was wrong...it's the internet, not fatigue that makes cowards of us all. But then again, what do you expect. Not like the guy could see the future.
Payton was probably very impressed....
with how his Rams perplexed our O earlier in the season.
"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!
by David "Satch" Kelly on Jan 19, 2012 5:25 PM CST reply actions
I fail to be impressed.
Our defense hasn’t won anything under Spagnuolo yet.
Hatred strikes me as one of the few signs of life remaining in the world. This is another thing about the world which is upsidedown: all the friendly and likable people seem dead to me; only the haters seem alive.
by Joseph William Stern on Jan 19, 2012 5:25 PM CST reply actions
True, but....
I don’t care. We so desperately need some good news this week. I’m calling it: Saints become first team to win Super Bowl in their own home stadium! Mark it down!
"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!
by David "Satch" Kelly on Jan 19, 2012 5:30 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Don’t tease me like that!
In Breesus' name we play
by Breesus Christ Superstar on Jan 19, 2012 5:51 PM CST up reply actions
Sorry...
I’ve already called that a couple of times…even said to list me….but welcome aboard number two.
Drew Brees....MVS Most Valuable Saint! Who Dat!!!
by cajuncommando58 on Jan 20, 2012 11:48 AM CST up reply actions
Cut that chump!
This isn't about rules, it's about manners. Now there's no rule that says that I cant come over here and fart on your entree. But I don't do it. Why? Because it's not good manners.
Bravo
Fee-fi-fo-fum,
I smell the blood of an Englishman,
Be he alive, or be he dead
I'll grind his bones to make my bread
Maybe he'll bring over Laurinaitis
Fee-fi-fo-fum,
I smell the blood of an Englishman,
Be he alive, or be he dead
I'll grind his bones to make my bread
Just sit there and hold your breath.
…Any second now….
This isn't about rules, it's about manners. Now there's no rule that says that I cant come over here and fart on your entree. But I don't do it. Why? Because it's not good manners.
Nice dream, eh? More therapy.
Fee-fi-fo-fum,
I smell the blood of an Englishman,
Be he alive, or be he dead
I'll grind his bones to make my bread
by jonrockets on Jan 19, 2012 6:05 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Too early to call our Round 2 draft pick this year, but...
Audie Cole – ILB, NC State. He’s very reminiscent of Laurinaitis. Plus, he can learn under Vilma for at least a season or two and be brought in to step up in certain situations.
AUDIE COLE
No.
We need an OLB. Laurinaitis’ contract runs out at the end of next season, sign him then
Mark Ingram-OROY
Cam Jordan-DROY
New Orleans Saints-2012 Super Bowl Champs
TOP IS GAWD!
No, Draft Audie Cole in Round 2
Trust me on this. If we pass on him, it will be unforgivable.
by Jee on Jan 19, 2012 11:03 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
We do not have a single player in our front 7
Capable of covering a TE and being able to rush. If we pass on THAT it will be unforgivable. Spagnuolo isn’t G-Dub. He won’t blitz. We need a steady pass rush. We’ll see the same thing we did this year, it we don’t.
Mark Ingram-OROY
Cam Jordan-DROY
New Orleans Saints-2012 Super Bowl Champs
TOP IS GAWD!
He's not signed yet
They’re reportedly still working out the contract, but that’s probably only a formality at this point. WOOHOO!
"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!
by David "Satch" Kelly on Jan 19, 2012 5:39 PM CST reply actions
I go out to buy beer
…and by the time I get back the world is no longer crashing down. Is that a testament to beer, or Spagnuolo? Who cares!
Welcome to the greatest NFL city in the country, Spags!
What! shall we curse the planets of mishap
That plotted thus our glory's overthrow?
To continue the theme Satch started...
This isn't about rules, it's about manners. Now there's no rule that says that I cant come over here and fart on your entree. But I don't do it. Why? Because it's not good manners.
that was some quick work
welcome aboard, everybody looks better in saints gear
"As a Saint fan I watch ‘Gone with the Wind’ just to watch Atlanta burn" -Ralph Malbrough
by DrewBreesManCrush on Jan 19, 2012 5:53 PM CST up reply actions
I DO...
…LOVE THIS.
I believe that this is the spark we are going to need to win the SB next year and then 5-peat and then at the final trophy ceremony Drew is going to retire and the Ginger Hammer’s gonna be like, “F*** it; we ain’t waitin’ 5 years,” and Drew will be summarily inducted into the HoF. Then comes a 14 year playoff drought for the Saints culminating in a 1-15 season before we finally choose 2 time National Champion and 2 time Heisman Trophy winner Baylen Brees out of LSU who goes on to eclipse ALL of his esteemed father’s records.
Or something like that. Go Spags!
I like this comment over PFT
remok9 says: Jan 19, 2012 6:33 PM
I felt a great disturbance in the force, as if millions of Eagles fans cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced.
It looks like many Eagles fans are pissed, but what else is new?
"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!
by David "Satch" Kelly on Jan 19, 2012 5:48 PM CST reply actions
BGN not liking this news. At least they do concede that the Saints offer a better situation. Gotta respect that.
When we talked about other teams that could possibly have interest in Spagnuolo, the Saints were the only one that obviously presented a better situation than what he could have had here in Philadelphia. They’ve essentially already got a championship caliber team in place, a stable coaching situation and obviously one of the better QBs in the NFL. Looking at the situation objectively, it’s the better job right now.
"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!
by David "Satch" Kelly on Jan 19, 2012 5:51 PM CST up reply actions
They're always pissed off.
It’s like its their job or something.
This isn't about rules, it's about manners. Now there's no rule that says that I cant come over here and fart on your entree. But I don't do it. Why? Because it's not good manners.
Can't beat him...
Join them. He beat us once and a near second in the last 2yrs. He will stay consistent. And help our D-line to get better. Good move!
He's one of
the only coaches that beat us this season. And whether that game was a fluke or not, that one single game accounted for one quarter of all the sacks Brees took all season. So I don’t see pressure being lost on this new find. Although i will say this, the other stats on defense weren’t great (similar to nola GW stats) so hopefully he can prove himself in the other areas and produce results.
The problem in the world today is communication. Too much communication. - Homer Simpson
We also need new players
Maybe with his help we can evaluate some better defensive talent on draft day and maybe he can get Cam to live up to expectations next year. I like our secondary, but we need some new faces in the front seven.
"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!
by David "Satch" Kelly on Jan 19, 2012 5:56 PM CST up reply actions
I think we should try and pick up
Tysyn Hartman from Kansas and turn him into a LB.
Fee-fi-fo-fum,
I smell the blood of an Englishman,
Be he alive, or be he dead
I'll grind his bones to make my bread
by jonrockets on Jan 19, 2012 9:11 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Curtis Lofton!
The problem in the world today is communication. Too much communication. - Homer Simpson
That would be good in two different ways.
What! shall we curse the planets of mishap
That plotted thus our glory's overthrow?
Agreed.
We need a front seven that can do two things: penetrate the opposing Offensive line, get pressure on the Opposing QB, and/or stop opposing runners in their own Backfield, and tackle.
by Jimmy Star 00 on Jan 19, 2012 9:05 PM CST up reply actions
As a Rams fan, congrats to both Spagnuolo and the Saints.
Spags has a great defensive mind, and he’s going to a great organization and team. The move makes total sense, considering that even in defeats, the Rams have played very tough against the Saints under his command over the past 3 years.
Wish he could’ve stayed in St. Louis as a DC, but you never see that kind of thing (from coach to coordinator on same team). Oh well, at least he’s with you guys as opposed to the Eagles! Cheers!
HUZZAH!
Once again, Payloo and Benson have shown their willingness to go out and get the (arguably) best guy out there. I think this is a great move. The offseason has officially begun!. Let the unrealistic and unhealthy expectations begin! 19-0 baby!
"But tonight the Superbowl belongs to the City of New Orleans" - Roger Goodell 2/7/2010
by SaintBevo on Jan 19, 2012 6:04 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
I like the way you think....
Eat, drink, and be merry, for tomorrow we die!
WHO DAT?!
TWO DAT!!
by LA_No1_SaintFan on Jan 19, 2012 10:41 PM CST up reply actions
I'm very happy!
is he usually known for a 3-4 or a 4-3 ?
Draft a pass rusher!
get Laurenaitis !
"We've established the run; we've established the pass. Now all we have to establish is another championship!"
"Some say the glass is half empty;
Some say the glass is half full.
I say- 'are you going to finish that beer'?"
So you like Audie Cole?
Just trying to see if I’ve read you right.
This isn't about rules, it's about manners. Now there's no rule that says that I cant come over here and fart on your entree. But I don't do it. Why? Because it's not good manners.
hey - have you heard anything about this Audie Cole kid?
"But tonight the Superbowl belongs to the City of New Orleans" - Roger Goodell 2/7/2010
Oh sure, but he's no Audie Cole.
This isn't about rules, it's about manners. Now there's no rule that says that I cant come over here and fart on your entree. But I don't do it. Why? Because it's not good manners.
I've heard that he is the egg mcmuffin
of ILB’s in this draft… or something like that.
"Never confuse a single defeat with a final defeat." - F. Scott Fitzgerald
by Cajun in CA on Jan 19, 2012 10:33 PM CST up reply actions
I think you mean that the Egg McMufin is the Audie Cole of breakfast sandwiches.
At least, that’s how I always heard it.
This isn't about rules, it's about manners. Now there's no rule that says that I cant come over here and fart on your entree. But I don't do it. Why? Because it's not good manners.
Audie Cole is not a hunter.
Hunting implies the possibility of failure.
Physics is bound by the laws of Audie Cole.
There used to be a street named after Audie Cole. They had to change it, because nobody crosses Audie Cole and lives.
Audie Cole has a grizzly bear carpet in his room. The bear isn’t dead, he’s just afraid to move.
This isn't about rules, it's about manners. Now there's no rule that says that I cant come over here and fart on your entree. But I don't do it. Why? Because it's not good manners.
He’s also currently rated as a late 4th round draft pick on most sites I’ve been to.
-Lombardi was wrong...it's the internet, not fatigue that makes cowards of us all. But then again, what do you expect. Not like the guy could see the future.
Clearly, Jeff,
you are not appreciating the awesomeness that is Audie Cole. The man can make onions cry, for Pete’s sake!
This isn't about rules, it's about manners. Now there's no rule that says that I cant come over here and fart on your entree. But I don't do it. Why? Because it's not good manners.
Audie Cole must like you.
If he didn’t, you’d already be dead.
This isn't about rules, it's about manners. Now there's no rule that says that I cant come over here and fart on your entree. But I don't do it. Why? Because it's not good manners.
Audie Cole is already dead
He died twenty years ago. Death still hasn’t worked up the courage to tell him.
What! shall we curse the planets of mishap
That plotted thus our glory's overthrow?
I would assume
that Spags would want to bring in some of his own folks anyway(?). Not sure we’re really going to miss our defensive secondary coach after this year…
This isn't about rules, it's about manners. Now there's no rule that says that I cant come over here and fart on your entree. But I don't do it. Why? Because it's not good manners.
You said a mouthful there
Not sure we’re really going to miss our defensive secondary coach after this year…
Eat, drink, and be merry, for tomorrow we die!
WHO DAT?!
TWO DAT!!
by LA_No1_SaintFan on Jan 19, 2012 10:44 PM CST up reply actions
we have to remember
This is the same guy who was responsible for the giants defensive scheme in 2006 and pretty much how it evolved from there. Sprag commanded the Eagles defense with Reid that gave the league fits.
Most of the time when a head coach loses his job, he tries to make it a point to regain that position. Greg Williams best year with the Saints was his first year. I see the same thing happening with Sprag.
I believe Sprag will come out swinging and we will have a top 15 defense overall. Sprag is especially talented in the linebacker area. My hopes is that he can make our weakness a stregnth.
Love this move
He has a proven track record and he will still be aggressive with his defensive schemes. It shows once again that Payton is fearless when hiring coaches. He does not hire yes men, he hires the person he thinks can help him win. Going back to David’s column about Jon Gruden, Payton might be the only coach in the league to hire Gruden and still think he had the superior offensive mind.
Spag-NOLA indeed.
"I have had a perfectly wonderful evening, but this wasn't it." Groucho Marx
sour grapes at BGN:
I don’t see how anyone could consider the Saints job as the best situation.
No defensive coordinator will ever get any credit for a victory in New Orleans. Payton and Brees will always get the accolades there. That team is set up for defenses to fail. They score quickly and win shootouts they barely give their defense time to catch their breaths between series. You never saw Greg Williams get any head coaching offers even though, by all accounts, he’s a very good coach. Probably why he left to be with Fisher.
I’m not drunk I’m just drinking.
by no1pipelayer on Jan 19, 2012 6:53 PM EST reply actions
Dennis Allen got a promotion after working on that defense.
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by JasonB on Jan 19, 2012 6:55 PM EST up reply actions
Spags
is already a name-brand coach, so he’ll get recognition if they win another SB.
by ChillBillinChina on Jan 19, 2012 6:56 PM EST up reply actions
Greg Williams is too believe me.
he has had excellent defenses everywhere he’s coached except maybe the Saints. Frankly if I had the choice between the two for the Eagles I’d probably go with Williams. They have similar styles but Williams has a longer resume.
I’m not drunk I’m just drinking.
by no1pipelayer on Jan 19, 2012 7:00 PM EST up reply actions
LOVING MOORE, GRAHAM AND THE COOL BREES!
“Greg Williams is too believe me.
he has had excellent defenses everywhere he’s coached except maybe the Saints. Frankly if I had the choice between the two for the Eagles I’d probably go with Williams. They have similar styles but Williams has a longer resume.”
So… GW’s ’08 Jaguars were a good defense?
he had some some good defenses @ washington and tennesee, several top 5, a few top 10 and some others not as good. He was a good coach, had up and down seasons his whole career, as any coach would expect to have. We could have expected him to bounce back after this season but spags is a good replacement and possibly a better fit in the coaching team with payton. I think at the end of the day that’s the important thing, that he fits into the system.
Theres no question that spags and GW are both good Assistant coaches.
this poster from the other blog is remiss in mentioning that GW had is go at HC in Buffalo – didn’t turn out well. I don’t think he will be given another opportunity at HC this soon
The problem in the world today is communication. Too much communication. - Homer Simpson
GW
Actually had a shot in Denver for this year. He turned down the interview, remember.
Eat, drink, and be merry, for tomorrow we die!
WHO DAT?!
TWO DAT!!
by LA_No1_SaintFan on Jan 19, 2012 10:49 PM CST up reply actions
Can you imagine Teebus paired with G-Dub?
I think that might cause some irreparable hole in the fabric of space-time.
This isn't about rules, it's about manners. Now there's no rule that says that I cant come over here and fart on your entree. But I don't do it. Why? Because it's not good manners.
Why do so many fans just type out of their ass?
“they score quickly and win shootouts they barely give their defense time to catch their breaths”
I guess it sounds good, anyway. In fact, the Saints were 3rd in time of possession last season. The Eagles were 7th. Maybe Spags was paying attention.
What! shall we curse the planets of mishap
That plotted thus our glory's overthrow?
consider the source - philly fans
"But tonight the Superbowl belongs to the City of New Orleans" - Roger Goodell 2/7/2010
Where’s a rotoworld backed correction when we need it?
In Breesus' name we play
by Breesus Christ Superstar on Jan 19, 2012 9:34 PM CST up reply actions
you know what they say:
“if you beat em…join em!”
"I have something no one else has: my brain. Which I use to my advantage, when advantageous."
by GRlZZ on Jan 19, 2012 6:53 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
Beat out the Colts.
Means he thinks the Saints are contenders. Colts could have offered something more appealing like head coach, or maybe their personel might have appealed to him, but alas, they are rebuilding and it looks like maybe our status as contenders might have decided it.
That’s good news. Peception is everything. Except when it’s not.
"I am a Saints player. Look, sir" Patrick Robinson
by CrazyforColston on Jan 19, 2012 7:05 PM CST reply actions
Is this guy among the 5 who voted " I hate it" ?
Expect more...you'll get more...and if you don't, start over!
nope, probably this guy
(and im not talking about william smith)
"As a Saint fan I watch ‘Gone with the Wind’ just to watch Atlanta burn" -Ralph Malbrough
by DrewBreesManCrush on Jan 19, 2012 7:15 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Hahahaha, what you did there...I see it
Expect more...you'll get more...and if you don't, start over!
by Stilljreming on Jan 19, 2012 7:19 PM CST up reply actions
Wouldn't be surprised if Will is let go
Pat Y agrees. Will is 31 and coming off a not so great season. Spags doesn’t like to blitz and prefers to get pressure with his front four. Our current front four isn’t very good at that.
"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!
by David "Satch" Kelly on Jan 19, 2012 9:06 PM CST up reply actions
So you're going to let go of our best 3-down pass rusher?
Not likely. Especially without a first round pick. Unless we pick up someone in FA, I see Smith back next
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Cam Jordan-DROY
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Will Smith has one more good year left in him
by Jee on Jan 19, 2012 11:12 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
WHO DAT OFFENSE+WHO DAT DEFENSE!!!!
I spent 8 years trying to reach him...and then another 7 trying to keep him locked up because I realized what was living behind that boy's eyes was purely and simply...Evil.
Dr. Sam Loomis Aka (Donald Pleasence)
What concerns me is
that Spags like Gregg Williams has historically loved to send the blitz. My issue is that we don’t have any players in our front seven (as of now) that can create a pass rush either on their own or blitzing.
by DeuceisLoose926 on Jan 19, 2012 7:41 PM CST reply actions
really?
I don’t recall his NYG defenses as being blitz heavy. My memory of those teams is lots of pressure from front four. Anybody have comparison stats on blitzes?
Regardless, there’s no way he could blitz as much as G-dub since he led the planet in blitzing…
"But tonight the Superbowl belongs to the City of New Orleans" - Roger Goodell 2/7/2010
He definitely doesn't blitz as much as Williams
But he definitely directed very aggressive, blitz-heavy D’s that were still capable of pressure from the front 4. Keep in mind though, that the defensive line he was using was often:
Michael Strahan- Justin Tuck- Mathias Kiwanuka- Osi Umenyiora
So he didn’t need to blitz all that often. The Saints’ have nowhere near that kind of talent currently on the roster, so that situation’s pretty different.
GIANTS! 2011 NFC East Champs!
You guys are right.
I stand corrected about his blitzing. However, we still have no pass rush on the d line whatsoever.
by DeuceisLoose926 on Jan 20, 2012 8:37 AM CST up reply actions
Isn't Osi a FA after this season?
by BlackandGold4ever on Jan 20, 2012 9:09 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, after the 2012 season.
Fool’s gold though. A 1 trick pony (albeit a great trick) who has a history of hip issues and is on the wrong side of 30.
GIANTS! 2011 NFC East Champs!
Does this mean....
…that Harper has to learn to cover? Please, Dear God, no.
by mattxlegend on Jan 19, 2012 8:27 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
The injuries to your team definitely hurt.
I think he could have done better with a healthy team
Mark Ingram-OROY
Cam Jordan-DROY
New Orleans Saints-2012 Super Bowl Champs
TOP IS GAWD!
We'll have to wait and see first
You guys always go so crazy with your “so and so mania” before you wait and see what happens. I like it a lot, it holds a lot of promise and is very exciting (obviously), but I am not going to go crazy until I start to see some results.
One good thing to come out of the crappy end to this season is that our defensive issues can no longer be ignored. However they go about fixing it I don’t care, just fix it.
Come on, Sarah
Go crazy. It’s fun! If we get our hopes up for next season only to see them crushed before our eyes again, we’ll just binge drink for 5 days until we find something else to get crazy about. The cycle continues. :)
"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!
by David "Satch" Kelly on Jan 19, 2012 9:10 PM CST up reply actions
SPAGNOLMANIA!
The problem in the world today is communication. Too much communication. - Homer Simpson
I'm still wondering exactly what our defensive issues were?!?!
The architecture and players’ ability seem fine to me. I’m really beginning to think it just came down to play calling, which clearly was out of the ordinary and seem to just slip at the worst of times. Dazzled by the lights? I don’t know.
Anyone else that could chime in on what our issue was. Saying GW would not really be an answer.
I had to laugh after a little thought, Sarah
You are soooo right! Most of us are like the worst of the owners. If things aren’t going right, just get rid of some people and get some new ones! Which, as any long time Saints fan knows, doesn’t do jack. And, I’m glad our new DC’s first name is not Jack. ;~)
Also, I’d like to give a prediction. There will be plenty to complain about on the defense, since the opponents scores will not, consistently, be zero.
Thanks, mom, for keeping all these knuckleheads straight.
The two best days in your life:
The day you buy your defensive coordinator boat
and the day you sell your defensive coordinator boat!
Every day I'm shufflin'!
by Just 'Nother Day on Jan 20, 2012 5:33 PM CST up reply actions
I’ve got a boat I’m willing to sell if you are looking…
In Breesus' name we play
by Breesus Christ Superstar on Jan 21, 2012 8:40 AM CST up reply actions
GOOD GOD NO!!!!!!
I got out of boating about 15 years ago. I started with a 14 food aluminum hull with a 40hp outboard. My last boat was a 54 foot wooden hull Pacific Trawler with twin Perkins diesel engines.
“A boat is a hole in the water into which you pour money.”
Every day I'm shufflin'!
by Just 'Nother Day on Jan 21, 2012 5:40 PM CST up reply actions
If not for my boat...
I would have loss my sanity years ago….Wait, never mind.
Drew Brees....MVS Most Valuable Saint! Who Dat!!!
by cajuncommando58 on Jan 22, 2012 8:22 AM CST up reply actions
Look at the Giants DL minus Pierre-Paul
Mark Ingram-OROY
Cam Jordan-DROY
New Orleans Saints-2012 Super Bowl Champs
TOP IS GAWD!
On the Giants
That was never his responsibility.
He inherited most of the guys he used as a DC during the Giants’ SB run in 2007.
However, Spags was known as a passionate guy who got the best out of an aging, scrubby defense that was terrible immediately before he joined, and immediately after he left.
GIANTS! 2011 NFC East Champs!
So you’re saying we’ll be fine? Awesome.
Mark Ingram-OROY
Cam Jordan-DROY
New Orleans Saints-2012 Super Bowl Champs
TOP IS GAWD!
In that case
a passionate guy who got the best out of an aging, scrubby defense that was terrible immediately before he joined
welcome aboard the Love Boat.
Every day I'm shufflin'!
by Just 'Nother Day on Jan 20, 2012 5:38 PM CST up reply actions
It's gonna be hard to produce a statistical top 10-15 defense
When ur offense puts up so many points. More possessions equal more points. Were playing Showtime, 80’s western conference basketball style. It’s fun as hell to watch but were gonna have the 133-128 games a lot no matter who the DC is, but he’s a good one. Who dat?!
by saints fan in cowboyland! on Jan 19, 2012 9:07 PM CST via mobile reply actions
not necessarily, the saints are above avg in TOP. We were top 5 in 2010 so I don’t see an avg D ~#15 being out of the realm of possibilities. With some good FA and draft acquisitions and decent training camp, with few injuries, it’s not unreasonable to expect an above avg D either, closer to ~#10. Especially if we can get pressure with the front 4, once we can actually do that then the crazy pass yards on our secondary games will be over.
The problem in the world today is communication. Too much communication. - Homer Simpson
especially if Romeus can contribute
"We've established the run; we've established the pass. Now all we have to establish is another championship!"
"Some say the glass is half empty;
Some say the glass is half full.
I say- 'are you going to finish that beer'?"
We don't need a top defense...
just a defense that can stop a mediocre offense during a two-minute drill.
by sammasaaron on Jan 20, 2012 8:41 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
we areabove average in TOP, but I think in Saints games
I read somewhere that we run more plays than most teams get to tun in a game, therefore our defense in on the field for more plays- I.E we don’t punt as much,we scxore tds and lots of them at a rapid pace. Don’t know if that’s accurate or true, but someone with some credentials identifies that about our team.
"We've established the run; we've established the pass. Now all we have to establish is another championship!"
"Some say the glass is half empty;
Some say the glass is half full.
I say- 'are you going to finish that beer'?"
We pack more plays into a given period than most offenses do…but we also hold the ball longer each game than nearly any other team. How many plays we run has no bearing on our defense.
What! shall we curse the planets of mishap
That plotted thus our glory's overthrow?
We are efficient, basically
We do have a lot of long drives
by BlackandGold4ever on Jan 20, 2012 9:12 AM CST up reply actions
I think what you seem to be saying makes sense.
If our offense sputters, at all, our defense seems to suffer as well. Definitely time for a change.
for instance our last game vs SF,there were 141 plays run - 77 by us and 64 by SF totaking 141
not including punts. kickoffs, and fgs.
the other playoff games had 121, 129,130 and the week before NYG vs Atlanta had 125. 64 is a huge number of plays itself to run, but 77 is out there!
"We've established the run; we've established the pass. Now all we have to establish is another championship!"
"Some say the glass is half empty;
Some say the glass is half full.
I say- 'are you going to finish that beer'?"
Great hire by the Saints. Williams' act was getting stale; it was time for a change, anyway.
"How can an idiot be a policeman? Answer me that!"
-Chief Inspector Dreyfus
Don't expect big changes on the defense whoever is coaching.
No cap money for FA, no high draft choices. It will be his job to improve the rookies/near-rookies into a better defense. But I like seeing a hire this quickly so the guys get some good OTA’s this spring.
So much for taking time to evaluate various DC options. It was what, 2 days?
Not much to evaluate lol
Once Nolan got taken by the Foulclowns, Spags was the clear number 1 DC out there
Mark Ingram-OROY
Cam Jordan-DROY
New Orleans Saints-2012 Super Bowl Champs
TOP IS GAWD!
My only gripe
I’d like to see us run a 3-4. The 3-4 is much more versatile and one of the better methods for stopping the West Coast style offense. The only real concern for a 3-4 is the power running game, which can be offset by an accomplished linebacking corps.
Other than that, I’ve got no issues at all. I’m sure he’ll be an effective coach. GREAT remains to be seen.
I'd rather not wait until I'm dead to figure out how to live.
There may be a weakness in your argument--
which can be offset by an accomplished linebacking corps
Not convinced accomplished is the word I’d use for the current roster. We’ll see what kind of offseason we have.
This isn't about rules, it's about manners. Now there's no rule that says that I cant come over here and fart on your entree. But I don't do it. Why? Because it's not good manners.
That's my point actually.
We’d need to look at the draft, but I like some of our folks.
I think Vilma, Dunbar, Shanle, and Wilson aren’t too bad. A free-agent and draft choice could really help build a solid unit.
The real issue I see in the 3-4 is Vilma’s history in the 3-4.
I'd rather not wait until I'm dead to figure out how to live.
by hooahsaint2.0 on Jan 22, 2012 10:40 AM CST up reply actions
Giants fan here
Spagnola will do a great job for you. He isn’t blitz happy, but when he does blitz, he does it effectively. He certainly won’t run a “bend but break” defense. Get used to seeing the other team go three and out. Contrary to what others think, he doesn’t need great players to make his schemes work. Congrats on the signing.
Thanks
Look forward to seeing you next season and beat those b****** niners
by Saintsfan75 on Jan 21, 2012 11:11 AM CST up reply actions
That's what I like to hear, maraman.
He is the force behind his players. That’s also called a leader. Just what I like to hear.
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