What Up With Dat?: Offseason Transition Edition
by Dave Cariello on Jan 23, 2012 11:00 AM CST
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Below are my answers to most of this weeks reader questions submitted Thursday. Special thanks to all those that participated. Feel free to continue the discussion on any of these topics in the comment section below.
Who is more expendable: Colston or Nicks? - Ben D.
Wow! This is a tough one. Glad I'm not the one who actually has to make the decision. I'd have to go with Colston, though. There are a lot of other good wide receivers behind him and the Saints passing game would probably go on without skipping a beat. But who would replace Carl Nicks if he left? Matt Tennant? The potential dropoff in talent is much more significant behind Nicks than it is behind Colston. And let's face it, Nicks is one of the best in the league at his position. I don't think you could say the same for Colston. In a perfect world, however, they'd both stay.
Why is there so much secrecy About the draft pick trade with Miami on the Bush deal. Both teams season is over. I just don't see the need for the secrecy. - Tim P.
I really don't know, it definitely is a bit peculiar. And I agree with you, it seems unnecessary. Perhaps it involves large amounts of Vicodin? Just kidding! I suppose we'll find out soon enough as the draft approaches.
What drink did you use to drown your sorrows on Saturday night? - David K.
Hate to disappoint but it was just good old Coors Light. I might have had a Firefly and water mixed in there at one point but, for the most part, just the Silver Bullet. I hadn't actually planned on drinking during the game but after the second turnover, I thought it might be wise.
When will I wake up from this hellish nightmare and wake up to find out the Saints didn't lose to the 49rs? - B. Robichaux
Will the pain ever go away? - Breesus Christ S.
I enjoyed this question so much I dedicated an entire post to answering it yesterday. Read my thoughts right here.
What are the changes/upgrades planned for the Super Dome prior to the super bowl next year? - Snow K.
I think most of the changes/upgrades to the Superdome itself are actually complete but I believe a few more upgrades will be made to Champions Square as part of Phase III, including the addition of shops and restaurants. From the Superdome's official website...
The Mercedes-Benz Superdome recently completed an $85 million renovation that completely modernized the facility...
...Champions Square recently completed Phase II construction.
What is the proper way....to pronounce our new DC's name? All i've ever heard...is Spag-nolo.....but if you look at the way it's spelled....I dare say we have a Fahv-ruh situation on our hands. - Jeff L. B.
Spagnolo is Italian for Spaniard. Somewhere in his family's past I assume a 'u' got added to the spelling of the name (Spagnuolo). If we really want to get technical, it should probably be pronounced: spa- nyo-lo. The 'gn' is pronounced the same as it is in the word gnocchi. If that doesn't help, think of the 'ny' in canyon.
What are the chances of a get together in NOLA for the draft? - Clayton C.
About as good as the chances of someone taking the reigns and organizing said get together. See where I'm going with this?
What would you most want Spags to do differently from GW? - Hans D.
I'd like to see a great pass rush. Everything we've read about Spags thus far says he has the ability to get a good rush out of just his front four guys, which is opposite of Gregg Williams' blitz-heavy approach. Personally, I don't care how they get it done I just want to see the defense do a better job of getting to the quarterback.
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If that doesn’t help, think of the ‘ny’ in canyon.
….or the “nyuck, nyuck” from the 3 stooges ;-)
That would work.
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by Dave Cariello on Jan 23, 2012 12:19 PM CST up reply actions
Agreed with Nicks over Colston
From the investment standpoint, it’s ideal to have some leverage (Nicks) to protect the primary investment (Brees). All we have to do look at the 2011 Eagles. The Eagles short-changed their entire OL in the hopes paying Vick and other players to have a Super Bowl-ish type season. That plan did not work according to expectations for the Eagles. The fact of the matter is that you need to be smart with your primary investment in this league.
Colston is a great WR, but we also can’t over look R. Meachem. The Saints need to obtain one or the other (hopefully Colston). Regardless, the WR that stick around will have over 1000 receiving yards and 10+ TDs because of Brees.
Nicks has the potential to be a Hall of Famer
…the best at his position for the foreseeable future. Colston, much as we love him, does not.
What! shall we curse the planets of mishap
That plotted thus our glory's overthrow?
Firefly and water?
Seriously? Lol ;)
Too bad I don’t live there I am good at organizing get togethers. One day maybe…
And like death we will never get over the loss, only learn to live with it.
by SarahT on Jan 23, 2012 12:40 PM CST via mobile reply actions
What are the chances of a get together in NOLA for the draft? – Clayton C.
I left this pseudonym up there for Hans and he missed it!
"Move over Marino, there's a new Brees coming through town!"-Jim Henderson
by BRSaintsFan on Jan 23, 2012 4:26 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Hans gets off work every day @ 6:00 EST
and I’m just reading this now…
thanks for helping a brother out!!
the legend and the hunt lives on
"We live by the blitz, and we die by the blitz.'' - Roman Harper
"So I guess the blitz died.'' - Alex Smith
by Hans Petersen on Jan 23, 2012 8:11 PM CST up reply actions
I was just going to say...
The hunt was over, then saw it was just a tease.
Drew Brees....MVS Most Valuable Saint! Who Dat!!!
by cajuncommando58 on Jan 24, 2012 9:19 AM CST up reply actions
and I'll say this:
If Clayton says he’s throwing a draft party in the NOLA, I’d have to see if I could get off work and fly down…
"We live by the blitz, and we die by the blitz.'' - Roman Harper
"So I guess the blitz died.'' - Alex Smith
by Hans Petersen on Jan 24, 2012 8:35 PM CST up reply actions
what's Firefly?
besides a show that got cancelled too soon
"We live by the blitz, and we die by the blitz.'' - Roman Harper
"So I guess the blitz died.'' - Alex Smith
by Hans Petersen on Jan 23, 2012 8:13 PM CST up reply actions
This^^^
Drew Brees....MVS Most Valuable Saint! Who Dat!!!
by cajuncommando58 on Jan 24, 2012 9:19 AM CST up reply actions
Should have clarified...
I was refering to the show that was cancelled toooooo soon.
Drew Brees....MVS Most Valuable Saint! Who Dat!!!
by cajuncommando58 on Jan 24, 2012 9:44 AM CST up reply actions
I see...
and I agree. I’m one of the lame people that saw Serenity and then went back and watched the show, but it was depressing when I finished, nonetheless.
by sammasaaron on Jan 24, 2012 10:03 AM CST up reply actions
for folks who like their hooch pre-mixed...
"We live by the blitz, and we die by the blitz.'' - Roman Harper
"So I guess the blitz died.'' - Alex Smith
by Hans Petersen on Jan 24, 2012 8:36 PM CST up reply actions
Colston isn't THAT replaceable
While it’s true that we’re deep in passing receivers, Colston’s vertical advantage is a key to keeping drives alive.
I do agree that Nicks is more necessary, our whole game plan depends on giving Brees time to find the open man.
I see Nicks getting a Jahri Evan’s type contract, Brees getting whatever he wants (structured in some creative way for cap purposes), hopefully to make him a Saint for life, and then, if there’s enough left over, perhaps using the franchise tag on Colston. But I would be surprised if they could pull all of that off, and pick up some LINEBACKERS and DEFENSIVE BACKS…whoops, was I shouting there?
Which people claim that their team can defeat our professional football squad?
maybe we should give up all our draft picks for a julio jones type reciever to replace colston
In Breesus' name we play
by Breesus Christ Superstar on Jan 23, 2012 2:39 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Colston = boldin
A lot of his seam routes, over the middle catches dont look enjoyable, although jimmy graham can do a lot of that stuff (and also grab fade routes in the end zone) now. i think we still need colston or meachem as they have size over moore and henderson.
colston reminds me a little of anquan boldin, not a typical superstar #1 receiver , but does a lot of the dirty work underneath and really a nice security blanket for brees when he was in trouble
by forrestgump52 on Jan 23, 2012 3:26 PM CST up reply actions
There's no way they franchise Colston imo
Although he’s very good, he’s not a top-15 WR and they’re not going to pay him that kind of money, especially with so many others to pay this year and in the years to come.
Regardless of whether Colston and/or Meachem walk, we need to go out and get some young talent at the WR position. Henderson isn’t getting any younger, Moore is injury prone and Colston has had multiple knee surgeries. Time for some fresh blood.
"But tonight the Superbowl belongs to the City of New Orleans" - Roger Goodell 2/7/2010
I can see them not tagging Colston too
In fact, that’s what I think will actually happen, since there won’t be that much left after the settle up with #9 and his guard. But I do think he’s a top 15 WR, and he’s going to get those kinds of offers.
Which people claim that their team can defeat our professional football squad?
Hate to say it
but I can see the Panthers or the Bucs coveting Colston.. Rat Bast*rds
"I've seen George Foreman shadow box, and the shadow won." Muhammad Ali
by BenDerDonDat on Jan 23, 2012 4:22 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, it's a bummer
Especially since the Saints ‘discovered’ Colston. Fact of the matter is, though, that our offense is fine without him. When we mess with the O-Line, though…well, we all remember the beginning of this season.
crazy talk
It’s Colston or Meacham. I’ll take #12 no doubt.
Brees isn’t going to leave his own contract out there and take a chance on losing The Quiet Storm.
Go back to the game at Atlanta for a reminder on how valuable Colston is for the offense. I’m sure someone can look up how many 3rd downs he converted that game and this year overall.
Being a Saints Fan Will Take Years Off Your Life
Hear yah, Drew doesn't call him "Big Trusty"
for nothing, catches passes 360 degrees, Meach can walk. Dev can too.
You think you know, and you don't know, and you never, ever, will.-Jim Mora Sr.
I understand ....nothing.-Michael Scott
The Future is Unwritten.-Joe Strummer
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win."-Mahatma Gandhi
Henderson’s contract isn’t up. And it’s not necessarily Meachem over Colston, it’s cap space. Colston will get way more money than he’s worth on the open market, simply because there will be SO many teams looking for a number 1 receiver. Cap priority has to go to Brees and Nicks, and Colston probably gets left as the odd man out. I would love for him not to be- a gold #12 was the first jersey I ever got. It’s unfortunate, but s*** happens.
Mark Ingram-OROY
Cam Jordan-DROY
New Orleans Saints-2012 Super Bowl Champs
TOP IS GAWD!
Mark my words
Colston replaces D. Jackson in Philly.
"I don’t intend to draw any conclusions from any single game." -Brian Burke
"I will now attempt to exclude specific large amounts of TOP from the totals of winning teams, in order to prove that TOP doesn't contribute to winning." -Dr. Jeremy Arkes
And V. Jackson replaces Colston.
"I don’t intend to draw any conclusions from any single game." -Brian Burke
"I will now attempt to exclude specific large amounts of TOP from the totals of winning teams, in order to prove that TOP doesn't contribute to winning." -Dr. Jeremy Arkes
He’s probably going to use Stu’s old cop-out that if he agrees with himself he’s not going to list himself. Then when he turns out to be at least partly wrong in some fashion (maybe Colston goes to one of 31 other possibilities, or maybe Jackson does), he won’t ever have it recorded on his history of being wrong.
Yeah but...
Since CP is presently Stu’s Carmichael jr, doesn’t he have to do it as Mr. Johnson would?
Repeat? Run it!
We had him for 6 years at a relatively cheap salary
That’s the reward for discovering / developing talent.
And, yeah, don’t mess with the O-line now.
Which people claim that their team can defeat our professional football squad?
the big changes to the dome for next year
they will have micro’s stations for all the vendors and will actually accept credit cards for probably just about everything… also smartphone owners will be able to download an app which will allow fans to order food and drinks and have them delivered to their seats. and those of you with AT&T cell phones will notice that the coverage is 100x better than before. these changes will also eventually be installed at the arena and tiger stadium.
"As a Saint fan I watch ‘Gone with the Wind’ just to watch Atlanta burn" -Ralph Malbrough
by DrewBreesManCrush on Jan 23, 2012 12:47 PM CST reply actions
also smartphone owners will be able to download an app which will allow fans to order food and drinks and have them delivered to their seats.
Shut your mouth!
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by Dave Cariello on Jan 23, 2012 12:51 PM CST up reply actions
im not sure if it is going to be limited to the club and plaza... or if the terrace gets to enjoy too
"As a Saint fan I watch ‘Gone with the Wind’ just to watch Atlanta burn" -Ralph Malbrough
by DrewBreesManCrush on Jan 23, 2012 12:53 PM CST up reply actions
Probably only for people with cup holders.
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by Dave Cariello on Jan 23, 2012 12:58 PM CST up reply actions
Screw that.
Can we please get a decent ‘jumbotron’?
In Breesus' name we play
by Breesus Christ Superstar on Jan 23, 2012 2:41 PM CST up reply actions
i would actually prefer them to fix the soundsystem
i cant hear anything in the terrace
"As a Saint fan I watch ‘Gone with the Wind’ just to watch Atlanta burn" -Ralph Malbrough
by DrewBreesManCrush on Jan 23, 2012 3:03 PM CST up reply actions
a picture is worth a thousand words
In Breesus' name we play
by Breesus Christ Superstar on Jan 25, 2012 2:33 PM CST up reply actions
Hey Dave...
To answer my own question, I totally agree that Nicks has to take precedence over Colston, but I would like to get both done, and if Brees wants the team to stay strong, he should be willing to create some bucks for the team to spend. Other than Nicks, Colston and Brees, I think everyone else is replaceable. I like Meacham, but if the Giants can find Victor Cruz, I would like to think we can pick up another receiver to replace Meacham, who tailed off as the season went on anyway.
We need help on the D-Line in the worst way. Watching the 49ers and Giants play rubbed that salt in my still-open wound
"I've seen George Foreman shadow box, and the shadow won." Muhammad Ali
Great...
now the idea for a giant back-tattoo of Spags giving a thumbs up is rolling around in my head. And I don’t trust my head with dangerous ideas like that.
YES!!!
M-E, get on it!!! Photoshop these two images together! I triple dog dare you!
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by Dave Cariello on Jan 23, 2012 8:02 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Question from a Lions fan
What are the chances that Carl Nicks returns. I would love him in a Honolulu Blue jersey next season.
Datsyukian Deke, Detroit Red Wings Blog
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Nicks stays. Back off, son.
"It's better to burn out than fade away."
by SaintsFan-KS on Jan 23, 2012 3:25 PM CST up reply actions
He looks better in Black and Gold.
Brings out his eyes.
This isn't about rules, it's about manners. Now there's no rule that says that I cant come over here and fart on your entree. But I don't do it. Why? Because it's not good manners.
Eh..... Honolulu Blue
Wouldn’t look bad either
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better than red and black
"But tonight the Superbowl belongs to the City of New Orleans" - Roger Goodell 2/7/2010
Red and Black??
Hate to ask what team that is??
Datsyukian Deke, Detroit Red Wings Blog
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The Fal*ons???
Trying to respect your rules by not naming those foul creatures :)
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by Detroitnr1 on Jan 23, 2012 3:52 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd for that haha
Mark Ingram-OROY
Cam Jordan-DROY
New Orleans Saints-2012 Super Bowl Champs
TOP IS GAWD!
You can have Nicks...
if we can have your D-Line rotation. That seems unfair, though. We’ll take Calvin, also….I kid, I kid.
So Nicks for
Sammie Lee Hill and Maurice Stovall, and for good riddance I will throw in Will Heller?
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We will gladly trade you Jermon Bushrod for Calvin Johnson, though! We will even throw in one of our starting LBs…Scott Shanle!
by BlackandGold4ever on Jan 23, 2012 3:46 PM CST up reply actions
Hmmm...... Let me think about that
I will get back to you on that in a couple years……
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Swapping 6rd. picks
I heard on WWL Radio this afternoon that the Saints and Dolphins will swap their 6 round picks in this year’s draft for Reggie Bush. This means we will get a lower pick in that round. That and the Safety is the deal. No wonder this was a secret.
Pics or it didn't happen.
Honestly though, it’s not much more than we could have expected. Amaya was solid on ST, and nobody knows what’s happening with Harper now that GDub is gone. Moving up in the 6th round, that’s just an added bonus. Although, I’m pretty sure it was a conditional pick, and Reggie had his best year as a pro, so I feel like that pick will be upgraded, even by just a round.
Mark Ingram-OROY
Cam Jordan-DROY
New Orleans Saints-2012 Super Bowl Champs
TOP IS GAWD!
Nicks has to stay. They should do everything they can to keep Colston
Meachem- although I love Meachem, he is expendable in that he only averages about 3 passes per game. We should be able to get that out of Adrian Arrington, Joe Morgan, or by throwing towards any of our other receivers a little more. I expect we will run more next year (I must be crazy) since we set every passing record and didn’t get to the NFC Championship. So, I think we run more and focus on defense.’
Since the SB is in New Orleans next year, I hope Benson and Payloo do everything they can to keep these guys together 1 more year- get home field advantage and play those extra 3-4 games in the dome. That should pay for the salaries?
"We've established the run; we've established the pass. Now all we have to establish is another championship!" (And a Defense!)
"Some say the glass is half empty;
Some say the glass is half full.
I say- 'are you going to finish that beer'?"
I've learned so much from my mistakes...I'm thinking of making a few more!"
I expect we will run more next year (I must be crazy) since we set every passing record and didn’t get to the NFC Championship. So, I think we run more and focus on defense.
That would be lovely. Especially if the WRs are improved upon. “What you do best” is always the best fall back crutch. It’s improving upon what you DON’T do best that turns good teams into dynasties.
"I don’t intend to draw any conclusions from any single game." -Brian Burke
"I will now attempt to exclude specific large amounts of TOP from the totals of winning teams, in order to prove that TOP doesn't contribute to winning." -Dr. Jeremy Arkes
Meachem- although I love Meachem, he is expendable in that he only averages about 3 passes per game. We should be able to get that out of Adrian Arrington, Joe Morgan, or by throwing towards any of our other receivers a little more.
You should also be able to get Colston production out of Meachem (or better) by throwing to Meachem a little more.
"I don’t intend to draw any conclusions from any single game." -Brian Burke
"I will now attempt to exclude specific large amounts of TOP from the totals of winning teams, in order to prove that TOP doesn't contribute to winning." -Dr. Jeremy Arkes
Except I’m not sure Meachem is tough enough to go over the middle consistently.
I’d rather get another top-end TE instead.
Well, you would need another WR regardless, if Colston leaves. Maybe Joe Morgan’s that guy and everyone shifts up a spot. In that case, another top TE may be a viable option. If it’s someone like Vincent Jackson, I doubt they’re going to be looking to do much else there. Although, I do agree that they could use another TE, especially with D. Thomas’s career possibly up in the air due to multiple concussions. I’d still like to see them upgrade at FB, also. One guy that may factor in at both positions is Brad Smelley. He’s one of those H-back types, like James Casey of the Texans. Not the ideal blocker, but can be used in that capacity, much like D. Thomas has been at times in the past. I think they’re projecting him as more of a TE in the pros, but it’s not like you forget what you already know. He also should have some decent chemistry established with Ingram from their days in Tuscaloosa. Shawn Asiata of Utah is supposedly the best pure lead blocking FB available, at least through the draft. I’d actually rather go that route there, as we have a terrible track record with other teams’ leftovers at that position. Even the really good ones we’ve managed to land (Vonta Leach) have been turned loose prematurely.
"I don’t intend to draw any conclusions from any single game." -Brian Burke
"I will now attempt to exclude specific large amounts of TOP from the totals of winning teams, in order to prove that TOP doesn't contribute to winning." -Dr. Jeremy Arkes
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