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Da Chronic's Got Talent: Our First Candidate

We're ready to kick off our search for fresh new front page talent here on Canal Street Chronicles, and make the best Saints blog on the net even better. Not possible you say? Yeah, you're probably right.

In case you missed the introduction to our little talent search here, be sure to read it first before continuing. Remember, any and all criticism must be 100% constructive and positive in nature. Keep Da Chronic classy!

Now I present to you our first contestant of Da Chronic's Got Talent! S/he is willing to contribute twice a month.

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The Loud Storm surrounding The Quiet Storm

Whether we like it or not, it seems like the Quiet Storm is all but destined to leave the Big Easy. With the success Marques Colston has had since joining the Saints as a 7th round draft pick in 2006, he will be one of the most coveted free agent wide receivers on the market, along with Reggie Wayne and Vincent Jackson.

The 252nd overall pick, and 32nd wide receiver picked, he has, statistically, been one of the best receivers since coming into the league. Outside of an injury-riddled 2008 season, Colston has not had a season in which he has had less than 1000 yards. He has played in 84 games, totaling 6240 yards and 48 touchdowns, on 449 receptions in his career, while only losing 4 fumbles. No doubt, he has been a huge part of an offense built on spreading the ball around. Unfortunately for us, those numbers mean somone is going to overpay for him. So, where is he likely to land? And what are we going to do about him leaving?

There are quite a few teams that will be looking to upgrade their receivers, and the 6'4" Colston will fit in well with most offenses. Miami, NYJ, Jacksonville, Tennessee, San Diego (if they can't re-sign Vincent Jackson), Cleveland, Philadelphia (if they can't re-sign Desean Jackson), Washington, Minnesota, Chicago, Carolina, Tampa Bay, San Francisco and St. Louis are all teams with problems at wide receiver. Of those, Minnesota, Chicago, Washington, St. Louis and Jacksonville would be the smartest bets to pay number 12. Unfortunately, I don't think the Saints would be willing to pay more than any of those teams for his services. Look for a 5 year, $40-45 million dollar contract, similar to what Brandon Marshall got from the Dolphins two years ago. With contracts being shelled out to Drew Brees and Carl Nicks, as well as upgrading the defense, it just doesn't look like we will be able to afford that much for him.

So, what options do the Saints have to replace him? First, they'll look inside the organization, where the Saints still have great depth at wide receiver. Devery Henderson, Lance Moore, Courtney Roby, Adrian Arrington and Joe Morgan are all still under contract, and Robert Meachem could come back cheap after not living up to his first round pick status. Arrington is probably our best bet to replace what Colston does right away. They have similar skills, though Colston is about an inch taller and 30 lbs heavier than number 87. If Arrington really wants to step up and be a contributor, he'll need to bulk up in the offseason.

Outside of our own guys, there are still a lot of viable free agent opportunities. Vincent Jackson and DeSean Jackson could come cheap due to injuries and off-field issues with their current ownership. If the Jets allow Plaxico Burress to walk, he certainly fits the receiver type that we'd be losing in Colston. Stealing Harry Douglas from the Falcons wouldn't be a bad idea either, as we showed that he could rack up yardage (8 receptions for 133 yards in our Week 10 matchup). Other names that could pop up - Braylon Edwards, Donte Stallworth, and Reggie Wayne.

While Vincent Jackson is the obvious number one choice to replace Colston, V-Jax could still be too expensive for us. I like Plaxico as a replacement - he will be 35 years old when the season starts, but had two years off football for his prison sentence. While some will cite that as a reason not to sign him, he still had 45 receptions for 612 yards and 8 touchdowns, in an offense where Mark Sanchez was asked to do what Drew Brees does. I think he would be a great fit in our offense. He won't be asked to do more than he needs to, and has shown through this season that he can still be a gamer.

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Well written article

Makes good points and informative
Now for the points in the article
I dont want Plexico or VJ on our team
I do want another big possesion body type reciever like Plexico just not him

by mississippisaintsfan on Jan 25, 2012 6:59 AM CST reply actions  

What's wrong with Plax?

I actually htink he would be a good fit..

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by triplea20x on Jan 25, 2012 8:04 AM CST up reply actions  

don't think he'd pass the "character" test for Pay-Loo

"We live by the blitz, and we die by the blitz.'' - Roman Harper

"So I guess the blitz died.'' - Alex Smith

by Hans Petersen on Jan 25, 2012 8:09 AM CST up reply actions  

That would likely depend on how many Vicodin refills Plaxico has remaining on his prescription for thigh wound pain.

"I don’t intend to draw any conclusions from any single game." -Brian Burke
"I will now attempt to exclude specific large amounts of TOP from the totals of winning teams, in order to prove that TOP doesn't contribute to winning." -Dr. Jeremy Arkes

by coldpizza on Jan 25, 2012 8:29 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

You know, now that I’ve finally actually tried Vicodin (legally), I think this may be why Payton always seems to have a stick-up-his-butt… the Vicodin is constipating him!

by FriarBob on Jan 25, 2012 9:27 AM CST up reply actions  

Maybe its a stick of Juicy Fruit?

This isn't about rules, it's about manners. Now there's no rule that says that I cant come over here and fart on your entree. But I don't do it. Why? Because it's not good manners.

by Doc Boudin on Jan 25, 2012 9:40 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

boom! rec'd

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by CrazyforColston on Jan 25, 2012 10:47 AM CST up reply actions  

1) In house, I really can’t agree with the idea that Adrian Arrington could step up and replace a talent line Colston. He hasn’t even been able to get on the field in previous seasons and we’re talking about him coming in and replacing our top WR? Color me very skeptical. Forgetting about Arrington, nobody we have on the roster right now is going to cut the mustard as a WR1. I also tend to think that Roby is going to be gone next season after fumbling away a kickoff return that led to a gimme touchdown in a playoff game.

2) Free agency wise, I don’t see much chance that the likes of a Vincent or DeSean Jackson will come any cheaper than Colston would. I think it’s more likely that either of those guys would instead cost more than Quiet Storm. We’re probably going to have to look a level or such down from that, but we do need to get somebody with a big enough frame to come in and be that reliable possession receiver. I’m pretty sure this isn’t going to be a popular opinion, but I’d be looking at Terrell Owens or Randy Moss to come in and serve as a stopgap for a season or two until we have more cap room clear up or can lock down a replacement in the draft. Plaxico would also work, as the OP stated, provided he doesn’t attract much attention on the market. With our limited resources, we’re not winning a bidding war with anyone for a top free agent wideout.

by Drunkamania on Jan 25, 2012 7:14 AM CST reply actions  

I disagree that DeSean Jackson would be to expensive. I think based on the year he had this year he would need another year to prove that this pass year was a fluke. And I think he could come cheap as team may shy away from him based on his injury history and attitude this pass year. Although, I’m not sure Philly will let him walk.

by mjjr42002 on Jan 25, 2012 11:10 AM CST up reply actions  

His problem is he’s undersized and can only run a go route

In Breesus' name we play

by Breesus Christ Superstar on Jan 25, 2012 2:55 PM CST up reply actions  

as long as he gets behind the safety, he can run go routes all day in my book…. (50 TD’s maybe) but he is an off the field/attitude problem.

by Dan Kelly on Jan 25, 2012 7:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, but he didn’t. I can’t figure out why, because he definitely has the speed.

In Breesus' name we play

by Breesus Christ Superstar on Jan 25, 2012 9:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Article has excellent points...

I think the points are valid and well thought out. I guess I don’t want any of those guys but if I had to take one it would be Plaxico because he would be cheap and expendable if he didn’t work out.

The article didn’t have a natural flow. While in school I can remember writing papers and while I kept adding and subtracting statements and thoughts that the paper would lose a little flow. That’s probably what happened to this writer. The more writing the better that would get. Nice job for first print however!

by BASAINT on Jan 25, 2012 7:53 AM CST reply actions  

Nice article, well thought out

Though as to replacing Colston (should he leave), I think the Saints could look at using an early pick in the draft, depending on how free agency plays out. A guy like B.J. Cunningham (6-2, 210 lbs) could be available at the end of round 3. He’s good route runner, with nice hands, but isn’t fastest guy around, so he’s is a slightly smaller version of Colston, in my opinion. Then again, I’m not so sure the Saints should be spending a day 2 pick on a WR under any circumstances, but it was just a thought.

by shipgoalie05 on Jan 25, 2012 8:19 AM CST reply actions  

I enjoyed the article, but I’m left wondering what effect Holy Water would have on our receiving corps. For example, is it too late to add HW to the Gatorade cooler and make Colston want to stay? Since money is the root of all evil and Vincent Jackson held out for more money, would HW scald his esophagus? Preston wasn’t afraid to tackle the controversial HW factor. Why does this beat writer seem to be shying away from it?

"I don’t intend to draw any conclusions from any single game." -Brian Burke
"I will now attempt to exclude specific large amounts of TOP from the totals of winning teams, in order to prove that TOP doesn't contribute to winning." -Dr. Jeremy Arkes

by coldpizza on Jan 25, 2012 8:25 AM CST reply actions  

“the love of money” is the root of evil. :) simply WANTING more money doesn’t necessarily equate.

"Move over Marino, there's a new Brees coming through town!"-Jim Henderson

by BRSaintsFan on Jan 25, 2012 10:46 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

but ya want it 'cuz ya love it!

It’s evil!

Sorry, I ’m kidding. You were right to point out the actual quote.

"I am a Saints player. Look, sir" Patrick Robinson

by CrazyforColston on Jan 25, 2012 10:51 AM CST up reply actions  

And we have a winner!!!!!!

Yeah that’s why I would want more.

"Move over Marino, there's a new Brees coming through town!"-Jim Henderson

by BRSaintsFan on Jan 25, 2012 7:50 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Dude, it’s f*** ing EVIL. Have you seen the eye atop the pyramid? ANNUIT COEPTIS. Do you know what that means? “Bathe with me in the blood of children”. Why do you think it’s written in Latin? Because Latin is a dead language. “In God We Trust” is in English. That’s just to throw off the scent. We read what we know and disregard the hidden evil.

"I don’t intend to draw any conclusions from any single game." -Brian Burke
"I will now attempt to exclude specific large amounts of TOP from the totals of winning teams, in order to prove that TOP doesn't contribute to winning." -Dr. Jeremy Arkes

by coldpizza on Jan 25, 2012 10:59 AM CST up reply actions  

hahaha

I had totally forgotten that. hahaha
Thanks for the laugh.

We’ll call it HW from here on out.

"I am a Saints player. Look, sir" Patrick Robinson

by CrazyforColston on Jan 25, 2012 10:46 AM CST up reply actions  

Very nice article.

As to the content:

I’d much rather the Saints do their darndest to keep Colston (although locking up Brees and Nicks remains the prime objective), but if he has to leave, then I’d take a Vincent Jackson as a stop gap replacement.

DeSean Jackson?? Ahhhh…no. Not only a headcase and a character issue, but unless he’s going to replace Sproles in kickoff and punt returns, his vertical speed wouldn’t quite mesh with the style of the Saints O. Henderson and Meacham already do that job for far less, and with less headaches.

Plexiglass?? HELL TO THE NO. Even worse of a thug than DJ, with half the talent.

TO?? As much as I’ve knocked Owens, I really do think that he’d be a better fit now for the Saints, since a year from football has made him a bit more hungry.

by Anthony_JK on Jan 25, 2012 8:38 AM CST reply actions  

TO just signed with an IFL team.

"I don’t intend to draw any conclusions from any single game." -Brian Burke
"I will now attempt to exclude specific large amounts of TOP from the totals of winning teams, in order to prove that TOP doesn't contribute to winning." -Dr. Jeremy Arkes

by coldpizza on Jan 25, 2012 9:52 AM CST up reply actions  

Link

"I don’t intend to draw any conclusions from any single game." -Brian Burke
"I will now attempt to exclude specific large amounts of TOP from the totals of winning teams, in order to prove that TOP doesn't contribute to winning." -Dr. Jeremy Arkes

by coldpizza on Jan 25, 2012 9:53 AM CST up reply actions  

I would be very surprised if he doesn’t have an out clause in his IFL deal in the event that an NFL team were to come calling.

by Drunkamania on Jan 25, 2012 9:58 AM CST up reply actions  

I doubt any will, unless he starts showing that he still has it. He’s coming off a pretty serious injury.

"I don’t intend to draw any conclusions from any single game." -Brian Burke
"I will now attempt to exclude specific large amounts of TOP from the totals of winning teams, in order to prove that TOP doesn't contribute to winning." -Dr. Jeremy Arkes

by coldpizza on Jan 25, 2012 10:08 AM CST up reply actions  

You’re probably right. That said, I wouldn’t mind seeing him brought in here on a cheap deal in the event that we lose Colston.

by Drunkamania on Jan 25, 2012 10:11 AM CST up reply actions  

I’m iffy on that. I have nothing against TO. The guy works his butt off like nobody’s busness and would have absolutely nothing to gripe about in this offense. Hell, he never causes a stir his first season with a team anyway. That said, he’s a 15 year veteran. That’s a pretty substantial chunk of change, even at his veteran minimum. In that light, it’s more a question of whether he’d bring enough to the table to justify his mandated salary. As with Darren Sharper, I have a hard time believing he would. Put it this way, even if he performed up to the same level he did with the Bengals — which was better than most expected — I think we could get a younger guy to play up to or near that same level of production for a lot less.

"I don’t intend to draw any conclusions from any single game." -Brian Burke
"I will now attempt to exclude specific large amounts of TOP from the totals of winning teams, in order to prove that TOP doesn't contribute to winning." -Dr. Jeremy Arkes

by coldpizza on Jan 25, 2012 10:50 AM CST up reply actions  

And he almost assuredly won’t demand double teams anymore, which is the main reason you’d want a guy of his (historically elite) rep to begin with.

"I don’t intend to draw any conclusions from any single game." -Brian Burke
"I will now attempt to exclude specific large amounts of TOP from the totals of winning teams, in order to prove that TOP doesn't contribute to winning." -Dr. Jeremy Arkes

by coldpizza on Jan 25, 2012 10:51 AM CST up reply actions  

Indeed. More than anything, I’m trying to rationalize a means to get someone who will demand WR1 respect from opposing defenses without having to fork over WR1 money that we don’t have to get him. I suppose it isn’t quite that simple though.

by Drunkamania on Jan 25, 2012 10:58 AM CST up reply actions  

Good article

Well written and researched. I don’t agree that Colston is that likely to go elsewhere and the three replacement free agent WRs suggested would seem to be more trouble than they’d be worth (especially D-Jax). But, that’s OK because his/her post will stimulate a lively discussion and that’s important. Posts that most everyone agrees with don’t usually draw a lot of comments and tend to get looked at once and then forgotten. This post already has people challenging the premise and offering up why they disagree. Again, this is a good thing.

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by David "Satch" Kelly on Jan 25, 2012 9:27 AM CST reply actions  

DeShawn Jackson will be one of the first UFAs off the board. Someone is bound to grossly overpay for him. I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s the top paid WR in football next season.

"I don’t intend to draw any conclusions from any single game." -Brian Burke
"I will now attempt to exclude specific large amounts of TOP from the totals of winning teams, in order to prove that TOP doesn't contribute to winning." -Dr. Jeremy Arkes

by coldpizza on Jan 25, 2012 9:56 AM CST up reply actions  

I'd be surprised

His personality issues are well-known and that may scare some teams off. If another team doesn’t sign him first, I don’t think Pay-Loo would be all that interested. For us, I don’t see how he’d be a good replacement for Colston. D-Jax is much smaller and seems more similar to Lance Moore than to Colston. He wouldn’t be the same big target over the middle or in the red zone that Colston is.

I’d rather see them find a way to keep Colston. I figure they’re going to have to use the franchise tag on one of our big three free agents (Brees, Nicks, or Colston). I think they’ll work out a contract with Brees first off and then, depending on how negotiations go, will use the franchise tag on either Nicks or Colston. Two of those three will sign new contracts and the third will get the tag.

"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!

by David "Satch" Kelly on Jan 25, 2012 10:05 AM CST up reply actions  

They’d be insane to pay Colston Top 5 WR money. The tag will be spent on Brees or it won’t be designated at all. Agreed on D. Jackson, though. He’s not worth the type of money he’ll fetch and wouldn’t fill enough of an overall void here to be worth considering. The character issues on all three of those guys (D. Jackson, V. Jackson and Plaxico) are being overplayed, though. They’re all bigger assets than they are liabilities.

"I don’t intend to draw any conclusions from any single game." -Brian Burke
"I will now attempt to exclude specific large amounts of TOP from the totals of winning teams, in order to prove that TOP doesn't contribute to winning." -Dr. Jeremy Arkes

by coldpizza on Jan 25, 2012 10:12 AM CST up reply actions  

Re: Nicks, he’s arguably a Top 5 guard talent, but OL franchise tags aren’t position specific. In order to tag him, he’d basically be guaranteed Top 5 franchise LT money, because that’s what makes up the upper echelon of that tag category. He’s not worth that, either.

"I don’t intend to draw any conclusions from any single game." -Brian Burke
"I will now attempt to exclude specific large amounts of TOP from the totals of winning teams, in order to prove that TOP doesn't contribute to winning." -Dr. Jeremy Arkes

by coldpizza on Jan 25, 2012 10:15 AM CST up reply actions  

Ouch. I didn’t know that detail about the OL tag. Sort of makes the idea of tagging Nicks a no-brainer in the other direction.

by Drunkamania on Jan 25, 2012 10:18 AM CST up reply actions  

A transition tag may be an option, though I doubt J. Evans is among the Top 10 offensive linemen, salary wise. Might cause some friction there, if they show one considerable more money. Their best bet is to lock up Nicks before free agency gets underway, then negotiate with Brees right up until the deadline, using the franchise tag on him if need be. If they do use it, I expect it to be an interesting off season, as he’ll probably sit out training camp and the entire exhibition season to sweat Loomis, before signing his one year tender. As long as he signs it before Week 1, he’s guaranteed that Top 5 average. Probably not the best PR move, but he won’t be playing beyond this next multi-year deal, so I seriously doubt Brees is concerned with upholding his reputation. He’s going to attempt to set his 3+ kids up for life and honestly, I can’t fault him.

"I don’t intend to draw any conclusions from any single game." -Brian Burke
"I will now attempt to exclude specific large amounts of TOP from the totals of winning teams, in order to prove that TOP doesn't contribute to winning." -Dr. Jeremy Arkes

by coldpizza on Jan 25, 2012 10:27 AM CST up reply actions  

I tell you who'd make a good influence on D-JAX

Steve Smith, WR, Carolina Panters

"We live by the blitz, and we die by the blitz.'' - Roman Harper

"So I guess the blitz died.'' - Alex Smith

by Hans Petersen on Jan 25, 2012 7:01 PM CST up reply actions  

What about Joe Morgan...

He was having a great camp until he got hurt. Could be a diamond in the rough and an opportunity for him to repace Colston if he decides to leave. Remember Joe Horn was the third receiver for KC before the Saint turn him loose.

by Big D. on Jan 25, 2012 10:08 AM CST reply actions  

Personally, I liked Montez Billings

He did pretty good for us in preseason two years in a row. He has the same kind of build as Colston and could fill that kind of roll if he can become a reliable receiver. Last I heard he was on Buffalo’s practice squad.

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-- Saints coach Sean Payton, handing the Vince Lombardi Trophy to Drew Brees after Super Bowl 44.

by VAsaintsfan on Jan 25, 2012 10:12 AM CST up reply actions  

Do they have the Bulk needed?

If I remember both Tanner and Billings they seemed much thinner than Colston. I’m not looking at their profiles right now so I may be mistaken but I’d like to see them bulk up a little bit for durability!

by thukel on Jan 25, 2012 1:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, I think you are right. Billings was pretty thin, but he was really tall.

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-- Saints coach Sean Payton, handing the Vince Lombardi Trophy to Drew Brees after Super Bowl 44.

by VAsaintsfan on Jan 25, 2012 6:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Winning vs. Money

Without sounding like a total “homer,” one can make an argument that some of the Saints free agents might want to take less money to stay with a winning organization. Said another way, would you rather take extra cash with some 5-11/4-12 team or ride the coat tails of Drew Brees and Sean Payton. New England had success with this approach (signing their own free agents for below-market contracts) over the past decade. While they did lose free agents (see Deion Branch), they were always able to re-load. All is not lost if Colston opts for a big payday with another team He has certainly earned it. However, if you were to ask Colston would he rather look over in the huddle and see Drew Brees calling the play or say a Christian Ponder/Mark Sanchez/Matt Moore/Jay Cutler, I think he’ll take Brees everytime. I also look for Brees to have some kind of funky “lifetime” contract with the Saints. Once Brees is inked to his new deal, I think he will begin to recruit these other free agents. If Colston stays with the Saints, they continue winning and he put up similar numbers to his first six years, you could make a case that it would be a HOF career. My guess is that he stays with the Saints for a less than market value contract. I’ll take him any day over the drama queens mentioned in the other posts (Burress/TO/D-Jax/V-Jax).

by tmac641 on Jan 25, 2012 10:27 AM CST reply actions  

Winning vs. Money

is one thing. Already having a SB ring vs. Money is another. Fujita was perfectly content to jump ship for a perennial loser, as was Usama Young. Even Jonathan Goodwin took the money over “Winning” (at the time) and he wound up getting closer to a second SB ring than anyone on the current Saints team. In a league as unpredictable as the NFL, it’s hard to fault anyone for going where the green is. Especially if you’ve already reached the pinnacle most others will never live to see.

"I don’t intend to draw any conclusions from any single game." -Brian Burke
"I will now attempt to exclude specific large amounts of TOP from the totals of winning teams, in order to prove that TOP doesn't contribute to winning." -Dr. Jeremy Arkes

by coldpizza on Jan 25, 2012 10:33 AM CST up reply actions  

Agree. Having a ring already kind of negates the hometown discount. Not to mention, this is probably Colston’s last contract to cash in on. And he’s been paid below market value all along.

In Breesus' name we play

by Breesus Christ Superstar on Jan 25, 2012 3:00 PM CST up reply actions  

First off, I would like to know

What Adrian Arrington has done to inspire so much confidence that he could take over Colstons role. IMO Arrington would not last one game taking the types of hits Colston takes catching the ball over the middle… As far as the column goes, structurally it was great, a nice easy read, but I did have issues with some of the presumptions made in the content….My grade, meh, need to see more.

by canu2u on Jan 25, 2012 10:29 AM CST reply actions  

Arrington’s a perennial bubble dweller. I honestly have no idea why people continue to hang on to the notion that he’s suddenly going to become something he’s never been this far into the game. How often does that ever happen? Brandon Lloyd may be the most glaring example and even he was (wisely) deemed expendable on a “sell high” whim. Reminds me of another fanbase darling from several years back, Onome Ojo. He was supposed to be the cat’s pajamas, primarily because of his excellent size and the chemistry he had with our future franchise QB, J.T. O’Sullivan. Guess Biff must have forgotten to drop off that copy of the sports almanac, because someone evidently rewrote history while the rest of the league wasn’t looking.

"I don’t intend to draw any conclusions from any single game." -Brian Burke
"I will now attempt to exclude specific large amounts of TOP from the totals of winning teams, in order to prove that TOP doesn't contribute to winning." -Dr. Jeremy Arkes

by coldpizza on Jan 25, 2012 10:42 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I recall that Victor Cruz and Arrington were both lighting it up in the pre-season at around the same time. Cruz was undrafted, and I also recall we got Arrington late in the draft. I think the Arrington “notion” has some basis in what Cruz has done given the opportunity.

by HRP-SAINT on Jan 25, 2012 12:32 PM CST up reply actions  

agreed. If Arrington was the answer, we wouldn’t be asking the question.

In Breesus' name we play

by Breesus Christ Superstar on Jan 25, 2012 3:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Voted yes for the writing.

The subject depresses me immensely. See screenname. I will survive and endure any challange the Saints throw my way however, up to and including needing to let my favorite player walk.

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by CrazyforColston on Jan 25, 2012 10:37 AM CST reply actions  

I’m here for you, if it goes down this offseason. JSYK.

"I don’t intend to draw any conclusions from any single game." -Brian Burke
"I will now attempt to exclude specific large amounts of TOP from the totals of winning teams, in order to prove that TOP doesn't contribute to winning." -Dr. Jeremy Arkes

by coldpizza on Jan 25, 2012 10:53 AM CST up reply actions  

I feel better already

But, I feel too stupid to decipher “JSYK” at the moment.

Oh wait, it hit me before I pressed post: Just so you know!

Yeah!

"I am a Saints player. Look, sir" Patrick Robinson

by CrazyforColston on Jan 25, 2012 10:56 AM CST up reply actions  

Well written

Well thought out. Spell checked and everything!

I did think it got a tad long winded when mentioning all the other teams that might be interested.

Aside from that it did generate lively discussion, as mentioned above.

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by BRSaintsFan on Jan 25, 2012 10:39 AM CST via mobile reply actions   1 recs

Agree with your assessment. Disregard the post to the main thread.

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by SAINTSfaninNC on Jan 25, 2012 11:01 AM CST up reply actions  

Agree with your assessment.

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by SAINTSfaninNC on Jan 25, 2012 11:00 AM CST reply actions  

I like the article...

A lot of good facts on Colston. Probably the only other thing to look at there would be adding a comparison to the FAs available. I would also say that a mention of draft prospects would add a bit more of an overall perspective.

This definitely gives a lot of thought into what we are looking at this offseason at WR, though. Good job, candidate #1.

by BlackandGold4ever on Jan 25, 2012 11:03 AM CST reply actions  

They are faced with wanting Colston,

but knowing it isn’t worth top 5 receiver money. It will depend on Colston and he many take just a couple of million more because they are all chasing retirement money and legacies. How can Colston legacy get much better here? More winning, but moreso playoff and Superbowl winning. He’s seen two opportunties in the recent playoffs slip away and how hard it is to get back he may take his one SB ring, all that he’s enjoyed as a Saint, and just move on to something else, if it’s just a couple more million or a chance to make an even bigger differnce somewhere else or a surprising chance to be right where they all want to be in hunt for another Superbowl.

And if so, I’ll root for his success somewhere else.

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by CrazyforColston on Jan 25, 2012 11:06 AM CST reply actions  

It was a decent attempt...however, after reading lines like "Arrington is our best bet to replace what Colston does" I couldn't help but wonder what games the writer has been watching.

What Colston does better than any of our receivers is use his body to block out corners and go up and get the ball on high back shoulder passes. Arrington has shown exactly ZERO ability to use his size to block out receivers. Not to mention the difference in route running is night and day.

Some good points were made of course, and it’s a worth while read. However, in comparisons like that in the future, one should delve a little deeper than simply basing things on comparitive sizes of the targets. Arrington is a tall WR…however, he’s incredibly lithe and does not have the body type to add the type of lbs you’re talking about a still be competitive. That’s no fault of Arrington’s of course…it’s simply genetics.

Overall, like I said, a good opening effort. It seemed, however, to gloss over a few things without delving deeper into WR comparisons and what exactly it is that makes Colston tick over the other WRs on the team or those coming in to possibly replace him.

-Lombardi was wrong...it's the internet, not fatigue that makes cowards of us all. But then again, what do you expect. Not like the guy could see the future.

by jeff.l.b on Jan 25, 2012 12:13 PM CST reply actions  

More eyes see more things

I think the writer would be a nice add to the mix a couple times a month. It’s not as easy as it looks, and I see a lot of upside. And I have a BA in Journalism, so I can at least claim to have an educated opinion.

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by PanheadCatahoula on Jan 25, 2012 1:21 PM CST reply actions  

Voted Neutral

I’ve talked AA in past comments, and do agree on the bulking up. It was pretty apparent on Colstons’ TD in SF, AA ran down near the end zone to congratulate him. And AA is pretty lean next to Marques. Then again he’s been with the Saints a few yrs, and the coaches are aware of his weight, too narrow to play ST so he’s got to get on the field w/the Off. We see him get open/catch the ball, Got to step up, or step aside.

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by metryman on Jan 25, 2012 2:11 PM CST reply actions  

Comment about the format in general

The article was fine.
My suggestion to Dave is that for front page status, these new writers are assigned to some sort of recurring, regularly scheduled programming/theme/format.
For instance, the way Stuart used to do a recurring stat breakdown to predict games, or Banks used to do a compilation of NFC South news.
If someone is just going to write about a random topic twice a month, why not just put it in a fanpost and move it to front page if it’s good enough?

In Breesus' name we play

by Breesus Christ Superstar on Jan 25, 2012 3:10 PM CST reply actions  

I didn't see any mention of TOP

So does that mean thumbs up or thumbs down?

Seems to me like most of the “regular” contributors have periodic “theme” pieces, and I would think “try-outs” should include the candidate’s ideas for same. Maybe a “Politics in Football” column. Or selecting the most appropriate Saint for each game (like maybe Thomas Aquinas when we play the Patriots and the “Hoodie”, as a thinking man’s game, or Saint Doofus for the Rams.

by Ship on Jan 25, 2012 4:32 PM CST reply actions  

I'll go ahead and vote yes for everyone unless I have a good reason not to.

The more the merrier.

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by Joseph William Stern on Jan 25, 2012 4:33 PM CST reply actions  

yuck

Other names that could pop up – Braylon Edwards, Donte Stallworth, and Reggie Wayne.

quadruple yuck

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by SaintBevo on Jan 25, 2012 6:48 PM CST reply actions  

I've never forgotten how Stallworth acted

After he went to the Eagles. He acted obnoxious and made it very clear he was glad to not be a Saint anymore. Ive taken much pleasure seeing his career on a downward spiral ever since.

I guess I can go anywhere I want. If only I knew where to go-Layne Staley

by AcquiredPanic on Jan 25, 2012 7:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Stallworth?!?!????!!

Wasn’t he the first Payton s*** canned when he got here?

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by BRSaintsFan on Jan 25, 2012 8:02 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah. But it wasn’t because he couldn’t play, it was because he didn’t want to do things Sean’s way.

Now, after six years of watching us succeed from afar while he’s sucked, he might come crawling back on his knees, and that just might feed Sean’s ego enough he’ll let him try.

by FriarBob on Jan 26, 2012 6:59 AM CST up reply actions  

you are confusing athletic skills..

(which are probably fading, by now..) with football talent.. of the latter, he had or has none..
couldn’t stick in any offense he played. NO, philly, NE..

by the 9th plague on Jan 26, 2012 4:38 PM CST up reply actions  

One of the most reliably inconsistent receivers in recent Saints history.

You never knew, play to play, how the guy would perform.

This isn't about rules, it's about manners. Now there's no rule that says that I cant come over here and fart on your entree. But I don't do it. Why? Because it's not good manners.

by Doc Boudin on Jan 26, 2012 8:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Well-written article

A bit long indeed, but definitely shows promises!!!

As far as the argument on finding a replacement for Colston, I’m actually thinking late rounds of the draft for a replacement! We have nobody on the WR roster right now that is as big a target for those back shoulder throws Drew loves so much!

As far as free agency is concerned, only Vincent Jackson would fit the “mold”, but he might indeed command an even heftier price!

Couldn’t PayLoo just find a way to keep Marques???

Expect more...you'll get more...and if you don't, start over!

by Stilljreming on Jan 25, 2012 11:28 PM CST reply actions  

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